The Art of Cheating
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- In this video we look at the depths of competitive dishonesty through the lens of Dante's Inferno.
Bit different from my previous videos but hopefully can be enjoyed by anyone.
0:00 Intro
0:43 Dante's Inferno
1:41 Unsportsmanship
2:40 Juicing
5:30 Rigging
8:03 Seasonal Advantages
10:32 Interference
11:49 Bad Calls
14:10 Rule Sharks
16:10 Big Cheats
18:50 Repeat Offenders
22:22 Masters Tour Las Vegas
24:17 I tricked you
24:57 Jungle Giants
28:52 Epilogue
Couple of acknowledgements:
Lot of Emplemon comparisons (mostly positive some negative). I definitely was very inspired by "Art of the Choke" in making this video (even the title). I might have slipped too much into imitating his speaking cadence, (it felt easier to record my dialogue), but I definitely think I did add my unique style of doing things in this video, same as I've been doing in my past video essays.
Forgot about Domed football stadiums! specifically Vikings, Lions and sometimes Colts, that shouldn't be as impacted by the weather, definitely a dumb mistake
Idk how I called a run in baseball a "point" considering I myself get annoyed when people call it that,I think in general I was just standardizing my language across sports using "refs" and "points" for all of them but should have gone back and fixed my script
Barry bonds batted left, thumbnail makes it look like he's righty (I mirrored image didn't really think about it)
I bring up Hearthstone a lot cause, that's my biggest area of expertise and I like talking about the stories
There are a lot of examples people in the comments brought up that I wish I covered but, only so much time and I wasn't sure I wanted this to be an hour.
Also its US centric cause im from the US, and its a lot easier to look into sporting events here. (Also i just like Baseball a lot)
Maradona's handball was probably intentional, NBA probably rigged the 2002 champs etc. I prefer to keep it more open ended in this video regardless of what I believe personally
Never watched a solar sands video, so was surprised to see people saying I copied them.
you nail the style so well and it's what makes it so great to watch, keep making this type of content!
Was only going to comment To make the comparison in a positive manner.
I absolutely adore EmpLemons deep dives. This one was every bit as good as one of his. I give no fucks about sports cheating but was captivated the whole time anyhow.
This one video has convinced me to subscribe. Can't wait to watch more.
agree with OiVeh 100% - have absolutely zero interest in sports in general but this was fascinating to watch. only thing i wouldve wanted more of is your take on the dream thing, but kudos to you for not going the easy route with that one and diving into topics not very talked about in these kinds of videos! really cool stuff, cant wait to see what you do next!
Keep doing this
I think there’s plenty of room for another voice that is similar to EmpLemon. No shame in it, and I’m sure as you continue you’ll find your own style.
i cant watch a single video essay without dantes inferno randomly being brought up 😭
Yeah wtf did that have to do with anything lmao
yeah i was thinking that to? didn't really seem like a great comparison either
it was deep and adds complexity to the video 🤯🤯
@@Avedox4how was it deep it didn’t add anything to the video
can't just bring up having a theme of "circles of hell" nah we gotta do a quick rundown of the divine comedy first
It is interesting that cheating is such a problem in Hearthstone because one of the benefits of online card games is that they eliminate so many “opportunities to cheat” by eliminating common TCG cheating methods like marking cards, deck manipulation, misrepresentation of health, false shuffles.
Tbf a lot of hearthstone "cheating" has been largely structural/organizational, or "gaming the system". But I know there are hacks as well that have caused problems in the past, but they haven't really affected competition.
@@pymbetteThe most common hack that pops up is people disabling or speeding up animations, giving them more time to execute turns that would otherwise be impossible. But it’s mostly been a problem in the Wild format so it hasn’t really been a problem in competitions
@@ethanhopper2467 honestly? i get *why* they use it, normal HS is so slow to play it just feels clunky and terrible, it drives me nuts. It's one of the main reasons I can't play the game
HS was never built to be a competitive card game.
It was a card game that has a competitive mode.
*what's the difference?*
One is balanced for competitive play, the other is balanced to sell card packs.
@@darkjackl999 yeah I think the ideal fix for it would be to have that as an option for everyone, but atm it is very much against TOS and people have been banned for it
The Emplemon influence is so strong here. Not a bad thing tho
Not enough green simpsons
Guy whos only watched boss baby: "Getting real boss baby vibes from this video."
@@yarghhargh9345while that is one of my fav tweets you gotta do some serious mental gymnastics to act like this isn’t aping emplemon all the way down to the choice of music
@@brykuntyeah plus it sounds like he's trying to do an impression of his tone, and the shoehorned connection between a classic work of art and mythology and modern pop culture
so real subbed
The deepest pits of hell in the maximum singularity: Billy Mitchell
He's the definition of a "cheater"
...
Why is a man outside my door with lawyers outside...?
@@iriswav7379calm down Karl you’ll be fine
The Judas Iscariot of Cheating
I fenced for many years and the cheating in that sport is pretty rampant. A lot of male fencers will wear plastic chest protectors that they dont actually need so that their opponent's blade's simply glance off of them instead of registering a hit. Also, there are many rules about yelling/celebrating, mostly having to do with provocative speech. I have seen multiple instances where this happens and the fencer's coaches basically gaslight the refs into not giving out a black card. Also, ever since the sport was adapted to electronics, there have been fencers that will manipulate the circuit in their favour, to the point that there are a million tests on all of the equipment before actually fencing lol.
While thats fair, I think there was way more potential for cheating before electric systems. Having two people on both ends of the strips with the two in the middle is a lot of eyes, but also a lot of failure points. Not to mention that its a total pain in the ass.
And of my god the amount of awful refs…that just don’t see the correct calls or don’t give out cards.. it’s so annoying when we go against a certain school whose coach ALWAYS argues with the judge and once accused my coach of being friendly with the ref when he has never actually met him…
Chest protectors arent illegal tho... Some male fencers may have a more sensitive chest than you realize, and some coaches may require them for all their fencers. Why be upset about that when a valid touch will still be activated if its properly executed? Ive seen plenty of touches graze off the jacket/vest without a chest protector present. That being said I 100% agree with all other points though. Its whack what people will do and how refs will react so differently to things like a fist pump or a yell. I will say though that the ample pre round tests also ensure that no part of the electronics chain is broken prior to match start which could lead to accidental oversensitivity or undersensitivity, its not always a case of intentional cheating.
@@essentialjazzforaspiringmu1605i also have been fencing for many years, and i believe that before there were electronic score systems, both fencers would coat their blade in ink so that any hit would be visible on the white jacket that they use. still not fullproof and not as good as electronic, but at least it wasn't purely on what the ref sees
@@essentialjazzforaspiringmu1605 i mean, OG fencing is hard to cheat in, blood doesnt lie
"we have emplemon at home"
keep up the good work man, quality documentaries like this are what i yearn for
The fact that this was a hearthstone video disguised as a sports video is really funny to me. Also seeing Jayhuang, someone who got my friend temporarily banned because of his ban, really threw me through the ringer
How was it disguised when it says in the thumbnail it's about sports and card game cheating 😂
I think this guy likes baseball and Hearthstone, just a feeling though
What makes you think that??
Blizzard doing dumb shit is basically a meme at this point. They're just as bad, if not worse, than Wizards of the Coast when it comes to doing ridiculous shit and then acting all surprised when their fan base gets mad about it.
the pinkerton incident (2023)
The Ballista incident
When youtube's recommendation system works, I get to see gems like this. Great video.
Never thought I would see Barry Lamar Bonds and Dream in the same thumbnail
the GOAT and some baseball player
I thought you'd talk about boxing since the cheating is so bad, but ufc is quickly becoming the new example of rigged sporting events.
The ufc is sports entertainment. Not a sport.
what's going on in ufc?
@poymannyng1845 oh man, there's so much shady stuff going on. Between the judging showing preferences for certain fighters and the referees being corrupt and letting certain violations go for one fighter but not the other, etc etc
Plus the matchmaking is clearly just whoever Dana favors, the rankings don't even matter at this point.
@@poymannyng1845Every time they have an event in the middle east, wich is very common nowadays, the referees give favorable calls to muslim fighters
As a Brazilian, that intro hurt, to add salt to the injury, Brazil just got eliminated by Uruguay hours ago.
Same with me as a Michigan (American football) fan later in the video when he mentions college football and shows 2 of our historic fuck-ups 🥺
Not the 7 x 1 😞
Another example of local advantage would be the Bolivia soccer team, they play all their matches at high altitude
To add further context, the teams that visit the Bolivia stadium have to bring oxygen canisters and oxygen masks. In a famous incident, Lionel Messi threw up in the middle of a game due to the hostile altitude.
He did the video essayist thing!!
"Welcome to my video essay on why Season 10 of the Simpsons is better than you think.
Part One: The Birth of Cinema"
The reason why the Vikings are seen as a outlier in the Cole weather graph is because they play indoors with a dome so weather doesn’t matter
this amazing video on the history and ways of cheating in sports just being a video about heartstone in disguise was crazy you are truly a artist
A thought on how it seems cheaters are punished.
To me, it seems that many teams and individuals cheat. But when punishments are doled out, unless the offense was egregious, repeated, or violent, it seems only the winner gets punished.
Example: when the Astros won they weren't the only ones stealing signs, but in order to downplay the prevalence of it only the Astros get punished.
Another example is deflate saga. While many talking heads officially nodded that deflating balls is bad and definitely not a thing that can happen at different atmospheres, sometimes you'd catch one saying he prefers a ball one way or another and would tweak it. But only Tom gets punished
Bonds got karmic punishment in 2002 when him and the giants choked the 2002 World Series
I got 25 minutes through this video and just only realized you have only 400 subscribers. This is a great video, you deserve a lot more.
regarding the "does cold weather improve homefield advantage", you also have to consider whether stadiums are outdoor or indoor.
Green Bay is outdoor, so they reap a huge advantage.
Minnesota's field has always been indoors, so they gain no such advantage!
(that seems to explain a lot of the statistical anomalies in your data 😊)
edit: apparently it was a joke by fortune, the player who requested the stock loss, whom unfortunately passed away recently
the chess one reminds me of that one clip in smash bros where someone accidentally unplugs their controller, and in response, their opponent kindly pauses the game. pausing is usually not allowed and requires you to lose a stock if your opponent asks you to,normally in this situation you would allow your opponent to puase, it was to help you, but he asked them to lose the stock.
Can you tell me who was in the clip?
@@channeleditor9335 sg vs fortune, apparently i had it wrong, it was just a joke he made, and he never intended sg to lose a stock
@@smoceany9478RIP Fortune
@smoceany9478 You should edit the comment. It's actually so wholesome, and you had me thinking the world was full of evil still.
@@The_Wampy i have edited it
every time you said "Meradona" i felt a sharp pain and a -10hp text popped up
11:40 Man that is such a infuriating response
The way you organized this video seems really weird to me. Fan interference is a lower circle of cheating hell than juicing? The LOWEST circle is a game developer nerfing a deck before a big tournament? It seems like a lot of what you talked about isnt even cheating, like scheduling easy teams or having cold weather. Idk i enjoyed the video but it just seems like you were all over the place in some regards
Only here in the comments to recognize how hard that Expos hat goes
@@dr.cornwater2886 thank you, im glad someone noticed it
It’s crazy just how inherent cheating is when it comes to the Argentina national team, from the 2 variations of the ‘hand of God’ we’ve seen from Maradona and Messi, to the blatant unsportsmanlike behavior their players display.
I can tell you did your best. Good luck Emp Jr. We are all cheering for you :)
Emp Jr. our beloved
11:45 "accidentally". "My bad, sorry that happened to you but I was upset. Sucks for you."
This video deserves to be seen by millions! Well done it’s crazy I am not familiar with hearthstone at all so this little sneak peek into the lore is sick
Fantastic Video! Loved that you incorporated forms cheating that many might overlook i.e. the temperature of an NFL game
Your video showed up on my recommended and I wanted something cool to fall asleep to. Ended up watching the whole thing and enjoyed it all the way through, really cool vid!
Also I sent it to a buddy of mine and he had already watched it earlier today. Crazy
Only one minute in and i know youre on your way to being the next EmpLemon
This is a really well written video. Most people would struggle with the broad topics covered here, from baseball to hearthstone is a pretty big shift I would think, but you handle it quite smoothly and well with a nice outro to wrap it all up. Very well done.
this is so good out of such a smaller channel, dude keep doing this, you’re good at it
Fun video essay. One thing of note is that you might want to run an eq on your music, some bits overpowered your voice. Subbed.
How the F are you not popular yet????
@@Hema8551 forgot to pay the marketing team
Fr! He immediately earned my sub, this video is insanely high quality
Bc there's already a channel like this called emplemon, even has the exact same speaking inflection
@@OperationEland its fine to have inspiration, I watch emplemon regularly and I didn't get the impression that he was trying to copy emp
He is, they just haven't noticed yet
this is one of those videos that I watch at 2 am downstairs while eating cereal. good work man
dude this is such a great video, i really hope you know that. your writing is impeccable and your way of keeping the viewer engaged is INSANE. your content is so good for being such a small creator! keep it up!!!
I just discovered your channel and really admire the work put into this. Great, very captivating storytelling and awesome video making. I subbed and know many others will too. Good luck!
Having Pegasus in the intro is extremely apt. Awesome video!
You should've done a segment about Billy Mitchell too (but then again he might try to copystrike your channel because he's very insecure)
@jd-jy7hn that was literally my thought process lmaoo. But also feel like I've watched so much stuff about him in the past two years that I didn't feel the need to cover it myself
great video! big fan of this format and style from you
The algorithm is gonna run away with this one. Great video man
Absolute banger
Nah you know this guy is gonna be big. This level of quality and so few subscribers? You’re gonna go far if you keep it up ain’t no doubt
wow this is so emplemon inspired it’s scary.. the exact speaking cadence and presentation of the video and editing to even the baseball analogies 😂
As Subscriber 612, you're gonna do great! Looking forward to you getting to 100,000, I'll be here for it!
Love the video! Gives emplemon vibes 100% keep it up you’re gunna blow up soon
Great video bro, although It felt a little bit US centric. You talked about Home Stadium advantages, but didint mention that in the Copa Libertadores some teams play in altitudes over 4000 meters and in conditions that are even Very phisically dangerous to the opponents, to the point of there being a massive discussion on whether these high altitude Stadiums should be banned or not. Nice to see Hearthstone being mentioned so much. I actually played that 2019 qualifier that day
I mean, Colorado and most cities near the Rockies are about that elevation. I’m not sure what I think about that, because it is definitely unfair for someone who grew up at sea level, but so is the heat in some places for those from colder areas and vice versa. I do wonder how much of a difference the lack of oxygen vs sheer heat affects participants. Doing some labor in the 35C heat today, I’m definitely far from my potential.
no way this guy tricked me into a card game video
I love the EmpLemon vibe in this video! He uploads so rarely that I'm always craving for similar kind of content. It also helps that I'm a huge sports fan so I like the theme of this video alone as well
It killed my sould a bit when you called a baseball run a "point"
I bit my lip while reading this and now I'm mad at everything in general. This is truly the deepest circle of hell.
Watching this video mainly taught me that I played too much Pokémon XD
not even 5 mins into the vid but yo great video, wish you the best dude! you remind me a lot of emplemon. i was watching emplemon when he was still very small and i hope this is the same thing happening here. Dropped a sub and keep up the good work!
Barry Bonds is still easily the greatest baseball player of all time. No amount of steroids can give you the plate vision that Bonds had.
officially an OG fan. thank you emp jr.
super good video man i hope to see your future ones
i can hear a shift in your voice as you started to talk about the true topic of this video lmao and that's where i see you shine the best. the other parts felt complimentary at best
tuff vid, fw the comparison of dantes work and real life situations relating to cheating. keep up this content i feel many ppl will fw it 🙏
MtG will disqualify a player casting a tournament winning spell over a (repeated) meaningless procedural error, but having a card on your lap only results in a match loss???
goated vid, i love finding a small channel that’s sure to blow up
Feels like an emplemon vid, and that's a good thing. Just what I was expecting.
Keep it up, I see your potential
One of my favorite cheating stories. Junior Johnson was a nascar driver/team owner whos car had 19 infractions on the car during tech inspection. The inspectors took his fuel cell out of his car kind of as a punishment to make him lug his car back to the shop. Junion johnson infront of them got into his car, fired up the engine and said "make this 20" then drove off. He had wrapped the fuel line that leads from the engine to the fuel cell all inside his chassis so he could squeeze extra miles out of the fuel run. Doing this wasn't even in the rulebook yet, it was outlawed next race though
Great video man! Love seeing new creators get shown in my feed! I wish you luck on your next video and expect me to be in the comments!
i assure you, the "hand of god" was no accident
Fantastic video. Love this kind of content!
you included the dome teams in the cold weather data?
Watch this a couple days ago and had to come back and tell you how good it was, left an impression on me. Yes, it did remind me of EmpLemon, but I didn't feel you were just trying to be some knock off. You're your own person and you put the time, thought and effort into making a great video and I was very impressed.
Regarding the last incident, why didnt the TO decide to play the tournament on the previous patch? Seems like an obvious solution to me.
Exactly. Makes no sense to change all the decks. If the decks are locked in then the rules they were submitted under should be too
I don't play hearthstone, forgive me, but I do work in software
If the tournament is run natively in the application then this would mean rolling back the update for all players, running two instances of the same software in one app would be a total nightmare, especially considering the vulnerabilities it would introduce. This doesn't apply if they were running the tournament outside of the main hearthstone prod server
@bujustic arent private test servers a thing in basically every esport game?
@@mikebell9759 it's the client and the server versions that matter- in order to do this with someone's home version of the app they'd have to disable the features that prevent you from connecting to the server with an older version of the client, or in this case a newer version of the client
Good video, man.
As a big fan of baseball, it feels like evey few years there's a new cheating scandal, like PEDs, corked bats, excessive rosin use, or the existence of the Houston Astros.
I feel like there's often an attitude from casual fans and those outside to dismiss such scandals as unimportant in the grand scheme of things and therefore not worth anyone's time.
Obviously no cheating scandal ever is as important as major world events, but I do earnestly believe it's important, in any endeavour with rules and a social contract, to uphold those values. Otherwise, why have games at all?
I don't comment much, but I want to say this video was very well put together and entertaining. I hope you get some genuine recognition from this ❤
not familiar with hearthstone but the stories about the controversy around it was super interesting. looking forward to more.
you have the potential to be the matt orchard to emplemons jim can’t swim. you got my sub. can’t wait for more.
Great video, just a side note from a football fan, at 13:20 you seem to imply that Maradona's handball was accidental, while for what i have always known it is considered intentional (also if you played the game a little you know that such a hand movement while going for a header has to be intentional), anyways just wanted to point that out, keep up the good work!
God bless the algorithm for sending me to your channel.
Great video! Thanks for making it :)
This feels like a production from a channel with 2 Million subscribers, I took a look and you only have 1.74K.
Amazing!
my only issue with the home stadium argument is not bringing domed stadiums into the discussion. this advantage would only effect an open air stadium
Amazing vid, love the emplemon inspiration here. What’s your outro song?
Honolulu city lights from Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth
Super cool video, love this format! I look forward to hopefully more videos like this. Got a little suggestion, don't know if you care or will take the advice, but I'd be silly not to try.
The reason why some people are comparing this to EmpLemon is because, like him, you used a narrative framing device in this video--Dante's Inferno. EmpLemon uses narrative framing devices to tell an interesting story, and will frequently tie his theme into the specific story being told. He doesn't own the format and narrative framing has been around for millennia, so don't feel like you're becoming a clone channel--you're driven to tell an interesting story and have found a parallel to draw in a topic we are more familiar with. This did not at any point cause me to recollect EmpLemon, I don't know why some people are saying that, but maybe it's because they know his channel and know he uses narrative framing to tell interesting stories, and think that anyone that uses narrative framing must be directly inspired by him.
The suggestion I have is to pull things back to the framework more often. It felt like you speedran Dante's Inferno without giving any of the literary lore associated with it, and the only callback after the introduction being a mention of the 7th circle being very cold. I would have loved for you to give a description of each circle as a callback to the narrative framework of the video, and using the exposition from the framework as more of a springboard for the subject matter. As it is, it didn't really feel like we were examining the subject through the lens of Dante's Inferno--only that both of them contain about 7 or 8 levels, therefore it works. Narrative framing is a rich storytelling device and you should lean into it more! Even if it adds several minutes to the runtime, it pays off in dividends.
I love a good story and you fascinated me for the entire runtime here, I am looking forward to the come-up.
This is nicely edited.
Dude likes Hearthstone and baseball, never had my subscription so fast before.
I will die on the hill of use of a game malfunction or glitch not being cheating. If it's available to a player in the game it's part of the game and it's dev's responsibility to prevent it from happening in the first place.
'emplemon-inspired' is the genre i have been waiting for
Love the content, man. Great job.
Love the mix of sports, tcg, and esports mentions. Also huge emplemon influence but thats a good thing, keep it up
Very good video, you could totally be the next EmpLemon! One thing I would suggest is when coming up with examples for things, focus on a few big ones instead of throwing in a lot of small ones, it keeps the pacing better. Also, try to be more diverse in topics, don't use baseball 5 times if you can. Despite this though, everything ended up great! I'll be here for the next vid!
can i ask what the song at 18:50 is? i didn't see a credit for it and i like it
Song is Waltz No.2 by Dmitri Shostakovich (somehow didn't put into the video oops)
@@pymbette thank you!
I love how my Bears are so trash that they have a -2% win rate in "Bears Weather"
Great video!!
Of course this topic is HUGE and can only cover so much - I think you'd appreciate how subtle Starcraft cheating was. And as a fellow ball knower, there's tons of flat out and subtle cheating in baseball to this day and it's a fascinating sport from that lens alone. I stopped playing Hearthstone after TGT so its funny to see the scene was still a clown show afterwards.
mmmm close enough. Welcome back emplemon!!
This reads like a University level essay. Amazing stuff!
great video I pray the algorithm blesses you
One of the big things this video reminded me of was old Hearthstone when Control Warrior and Handlock were so much fun to play.
Dude I’m so glad you mentioned the 2002 NBA Western Conference Finals. As a Nets Fan, this was the most egregious thing I’ve ever watched on television. Cheating in sports so blatantly and as openly, it was like the refs looked into the cameras, looked me dead in the eye and said “yes, we’re cheating. What’re you gonna do about it?” And it was surreal. They beat the kings and then thrashed us. We had friendly calls come our way and had a miracle run into the finals; but it was all a set up to give the Lakers another ring. Whenever Shaq is on TV and talks about how he has 4 rings, I’m always very aware that one of those rings is plastic. He sold the gold to the referees for the ‘02 ring and I’m still mad about it lol
It’s the My Way cover at the end of the video that ties everything together
..."THE SCRIPT"....
Did you splice together the part where you're saying "taking two speedruns and splicing them together"? That's funny