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- I said I wouldn't do it, but after going through way too many halogen bulbs in my red rotating beacons, I finally broke down and bought an LED light bar. I'm not exactly thrilled with the one I got, but it is what it is and we'll see how it goes from here
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You can get LED replacements that will fit into those halogen sockets. The will be a bit brighter but not distractingly so and should last a lot longer.
Dropped in to say exactly this, could even do a warm white LED.
Yeah that's what I came to say.
One more thing, these "halogen led bulbs" (let's call them that) usually have a cluster of LEDs instead of a single wire in an actual halogen bulb and if by chance a single LED does malfunction it won't stop the whole assembly from working properly.
plus 1 And nothing to say you can't put a lower powered LED ie if the halogens were 25w match or lower the LED 15w!
High-powered LEDs (ie: 25w up) won't fit in that style of fitting without a lot of modification as they have a big ballast on the base.
That fast flashing LED sequence is definitely the "create new customers" mode.
LoL, well said!
Hey.. he's already on site for it. But, can't solicitate. They would have to ask.
To me the slowest left right blink on the LED's was the least distracting. The faster it goes the more hypnotizing it is.
That is what I was going to say, mindreader😂
Ditto
@@davidbreaux5989 agree
and Ive heard from a VA state trooper that they did a study and a slow back and forth is best. unfortunately a lot of stuff tries to be really flashy but those just make it worse
And blinding, i hate cops that leave their super fast flash on once pulled over because it makes it harder to see them or the road. Go to the slow strobe, you are still seen and you aren't making the road unsafe
As a Sheriff's Deputy, Our light bars fast flash while driving but automatically go to a slow flash once the car is put in Park. All of our cars also sync together on a scene, so they flash together.
We also have a nighttime "dim" mode that reduces brightness by about 1/3.
The LED slow pattern I think is the better of the choices
@15:33 "I don't know why I put these away. I need them." Of course you know why you put them away in the middle of the job. The very best place to find something when you need it is the place it's supposed to be. If you just tossed aside something you're going to need again, you spend most of your time looking for the thing you tossed. You've learned that lesson.
Exactly. There are two correct places for every item. In use or put away in their proper place.
amen.
Whelen is listening, Casey. With their new systems, they're now dimming and slowing down light patterns for nighttime operations. There's progress being made!
As a retired trooper, I agree wholeheartedly with the LED strobe lights being in the distraction category. Also to be considered is the blinding effect to oncoming drivers, causing them to avert their attention and focus to what is in the roadway.
I'm a mom-and-pop U-Haul dealer. I'm proud to say we use the same chocks as were used to block the tires on this truck. The big stores ain't got nothing on us!
On the recycle note, we had a 2022 or 2023 truck in last year with an extremely old box on it. My wife asked how I knew the box was old. A close look showed multiple layers of old U-Haul decals under the new one, and the clearance lights were all rectangle using a tiny bulb instead of button LEDs.
How I imagine Casey speaking at a business conference: "Make sure to diversify and create secondary and tertiary income channels to maximize your ability to help out those less fortunate.
say all the big words and popular phrases to impress folks.
Admitting you are wrong, or that there are other viable options just means your open minded enough to move forward and make changes or improvements as needed. Its called good sense.
As a truck driver i appreciate your desire for low key warning lights.... often times at night when i come across an emergency scene after driving in darkness for hours its somewhat difficult to maintain focus and see properly...... same with highway construction light poles 20ft high that shine brighter than the morning sun bouncing off some jackwagons 18in chrome drop visor
The halogen rotators by themselves are my favorite.
I once almost hit a police officer with my car because the led emergency strobe lights on the police car were so blinding. The officer was standing in the road at night, directing traffic after an event while wearing a reflective vest and holding a flashlight with the orange tip cone. The strobe pattern was so fast and intense, I couldn’t see the reflective vest or orange glowing flashlight end, and that was with me going no more than 5mph.
I believe you when you say led strobes are distracting to drivers and dangerous to you while you’re on the side of a road.
Halloween is the worst. They hire a police officer who sets up with his blinding strobes then people feel they can just walk into the road near the police car not realizing passing traffic is blind.
The EXACT SAME thing happened to me. I had to stop, wait for him to come over to my car, and explain that I could NOT SEE him at all because of the lights. 😮 It was not distraction, I was literally blinded by the lights.
As a former L.E.O, I really understand a few of the jackasses I worked with couldn't understand to put them on night mode at night and would crank them to fast then get pissed when they about got ran over. I told them hundreds of times to use the lowered settings at night and fog so to not blind everyone, including us.
@@DB-yj3qc The worst is when they run the takedown lights and park halfway out in the road and stand on the road-side of the car they pulled over.
I prefer the old school strobes, way less likely to give me a migraine when driving by them at night.
True. Some strobe sets are set so fast that the "flashing aspect " is ineffective.
As someone who's internal monolog is constantly annoyed by the intense LED strobe lights of police, fire, ambulance and tow trucks.... I'm voting for the halogen rotators. The LED slow amber lights are not too bad as they are less painful on the eyes so they would be a close second. During the day, the amber LEDs would be best. Pretty slick asking us to comment our vote so the comments will boost your algorithm. :D
Could you mount the strobs on a soft platform that would isolate them from vibration/ shock. I like them best for the reasons you stated. We must be like minded. Just a thought.
I seen guys use old radiator hoses
as isolators. Casey might have to
go with smaller diameter heater
hoses tho , to keep the "white wall"
effect in-play .
@@tednichol-mh5hu If, Casey would find a appliance recycler, there is a part of washers mount the motors, with steel insides with rubber boots. I'd think, the strobes might have the same size of bolts, that way, they can be mounted where they are, but still protected from the shock of movements. And, if able to replace with LED, so much the better. 5/23/2024
The worst are the blue fast flash, and trail lights. For me. Color unfortunate, everything else is the same color to my eyes, yellow red green.. but the blue disjoints from the source and seems like it's right in my face and can't see much of anything else.
That was me with the tiny home. That thing SUCKED to pull but they're all like that. That came from Arizona all the way up to Oregon
Yup seen your video, was positive it was you.
you can get direct replacement LED bulbs, they just replace the halogen bulbs, then you can have the spinning lights that don't break
Since the advent of LED headlights on vehicles, night time driving is a pain in the eyes now. My contention is, they are not focused and have a hellish flow around them and worse, on a truck that has been lifted, they do not realign their beams to point down more, they are now shooting blinding light through my back window and sideview mirror!
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That's Cp Steve Miller towing that tiny house , he has a CZcams channel as well. Does hotshot and diesel repair.
Casey, always good to have options. They do make lightbars with photocells built into the lightbar to dim them at night. But having the ability to use amber or red is also a nice option which I don't think is available on some models. Stay safe out there.
Good luck getting U-Haul, to rent her another U-Haul, to get her stuff out of the wrecked one..lol
Had the same thought!
Yup
Penske rentals...
• Especially since it was a DUI !!
• In my area , Penske rents STRICTLY
to businesses , not walk-ins.
If that's a DUI, most states should suspend before she leaves the crash scene. I'd also expect clauses about overloading in the contracts would complicate her life more.
Federal Signal makes LED rotators.....SLR Beacon.......pricey but best of both worlds
Bloody great units they are and all.
The fedsig navigator is my favorite light bar
Totally in agreement with you about certain lights being a distraction vs warning. After 40 yrs in emergency services I am safely retired. I always used the emergency lights we had judiciously not on all the time every time. Great content CL! Keep on truckin' and stay safe.
Heat shrink is a good way to cower wires.
Hey Casey! Don't forget the light bar....
:)
I just drove 97 from Wenatchee to Madras and back. I looked for you the whole way.
that's a pretty drive.... been forever since I went down thru 97 that far. Barely make it to Wenatchee anymore!
I think these videos are done a couple days before he releases them.
And they're not even necessarily released in order because the big stolen thing that he's talked about in this one is the video that dropped the other day
You could try led bulbs in those rotators. Might be a good compromise. They'll be brighter and last longer. When strobes and led lights became popular, many had day/night mode settings. I think most ran them in the blinding day time settings all the time thinking it was better. Now, as a result, I don't think manufacturers bother to build them with that feature anymore. Thanks for the great content.
would be a good compromise but be sure o use correct bulbs as some tend to overheat
I like the traditional lights but with your LED bar on slow Amber side to side flash, as you've said it's not distracting but does well at lighting up the surrounding area alerting passers by.
Really like your channel. I retired last summer after 40 years driving truck all over the Northwest, with a lot of miles up and down 97. I understand the need to be seen by tow truck operators, but some trucks have so many lights going that other drivers are blinded by them. Seems like too many hazard lights can create a more hazardous condition.
The benefit is what you could do at night is the halogens and use the traffic advisor > light sequence I find those pretty useful
I used to haul oversize ag equipment for a John Deere dealership. I had a Signal Stat LED flashing beacon that was very visible during daylight hours, but would have been retina-damaging at night. Since I did not haul oversize at night, I had no concern over night brightness. In your video, I found the slow alternating yellow pattern to be the best warning. Law enforcement locally use light bars that flash in a pattern from one side to the other, indicating (at least to me) the direction needed to pass the hazard in the roadway. I found those lights most helpful when on the interstate, allowing me to select a safe lane from a greater distance, since the hazard could be on the shoulder of the highway or the median.
I think that's a CZcamsr pulling that tiny home, CP Miller. He is on his way to Portland.
In the volunteer fire department I'm in over in WV our Tanker has 3 halogen MX7000 light bar's 2 minis in the rear and full size on the cab both Ambulances have Halogen light bar's and the Chevy SUV response unit has another MX7000 on it we NEVER have any issues with the lights not working
I prefer the original red rotating and the slow yellow side to side together. The best of both worlds. Very high visibility without too much distraction.
Slower LED left right!
Though as a retired cop, I do really like non led rollers!!
As you were saying, 'I know I'm going to get a lot of people saying 'I told you so!'...' in my head I heard an old sitcom line. 'I would NEVER say 'I told you so!'...I said that."
I informed you thusly
I definitely agree that the slower alternating right/left is enough to grab attention without being so much that it's overly distracting. I've definitely been distracted and blinded on wet or snowy nights by police cars with the LED bars that are approximately the same intensity as the sun so I don't blame you at all for trying to minimize that while you're standing/laying on the side of the road trying to get a recovery done as quickly as possible.
Love ya Casey for coming around to LED. Stay safe sir. All the ones that say LEDs are too bright probably look at the sun during an eclipse too.
I'm with you Casey. Halogen Rotators only. Maybe upgrade the bulbs to LED?
I have seen several other people mention it already but get LED replacement bulbs for your rotating lights. I had a similar issue with my wife's car and her headlights (Subaru has a class action lawsuit suit for it) but the vibration knocks the lights out all the time, sometimes 3 times a year. I replaced it with LED's from Amazon and their lasting 2-3 years now. Don't buy the cheap ones, I spent $40-$60 on hers but the best investment ever.
Haters gonna say you didn't strap in the second wheel because you didn't wanna mess up without a zip tie on your strap. Was very excited to see the finished product. Hopefully the light bar works out in the long run!
The slow side to side yellow is perfect! Like others have said, you can get LED replacement bulbs for the halogen that “might” last longer than the halogens!!!
Awesome video! Lots of information! Casey you are a boat load of information. Thank you for sharing!😊
Casey, I completely agree with you on the wiring, that is horrible! I would recommend the mesh wire loom (it can be solid where you have to feed the wires through, or split like normal wire loom). It looks far more professional and clean vs the hard plastic spit wire loom. And since you seem to share the same view as I do on things like this, I think you'd like the mesh wire loom better.
I think the harness is backwards... on mine the power wires come out the other end of the harness, not at the controller side. They also have right angle adapters to hide the harness behind the controller. Also the light bars can be controlled with a control box like Casey is using or off dash switches like the halogen rotators are.
We run the old school halogen lights on our wreckers. My personal preference though
Glad you remembered the light bar!
One thing always leads to another, nothings easy. Good Job!
I prefer the Last Pattern and 3rd Pattern.
Last pattern provided enough attention getting while not being overwhelming and very distracting. Good light level, great light pattern.
3rd pattern was similar to the last but more bright lights which has the potential to be distracting in rough weather.
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@@jilbertb
DISCO BALL far out on the
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( actually , i think some almost
straight-down white work lights
@ the end of the inner-most section
[ that doesn't extend ] would be a help , as well as a small Amber
beacon on each side of the tip of
the boom { similar to the Orange
& Blue PUCK-Flares } that are quite
noticable & not blinding , and would
also be visible when the boom is UP / rigged on a boxtruck which
blocks many of his current lights ) .
Good morning Casey☀️ Whatever works best to keep you safe, especially at night! Take care and keep the excellent content coming. Stay safe out there!❤️🙏
Regarding the LED light bar intensity you could modify the system. Light Emitting Diode emits light at an intensity that depends on the current passing through the LED, not the voltage. LED is a current-driven device rather than a voltage-driven device.
Strobes are nothing more than DRUNK MAGNETS 🧲
Couldn’t you fit a led bulb in the rotators?
The spaz speed yellow is a sure thing to bring in the drunk driver impacts moth to the flame principle.......lol
From one of your big critics thank you appreciate it
Certain flash frequencies (5-30 Hz) can trigger epileptic seizures.
Her conversation with U-Haul might have gone something like this:🤣
She: "I need my stuff back. Can I get it?"
U-Haul: "Yes you can."
She: "Where is it?"
U-Haul: "It at our repair facility in Portland."
She: "Can I rent a U-Haul to come and get it?"
U-Haul: "No you can't. Try Ryder."
всегда рад тебя видеть👍
спасибо за видео👍👍👍
I liked the slower LED pattern. Great job as usual Casey. Take care, stay safe.
I always like the bubble gum machine lights since I was a kid. LED thought bright and get your attention sometimes are so bright they can create blind spots.
The red in slow looks the beast
Don't look at the beast.
Casey loved the strobe light at the end great timing just got a buzz from some good cannabis 🤣👍
I think that you are right about the distractive nature of some of the light patterns. When you are driving, I think you should use low distraction lighting. When you are on the roadside, brighter more attention grabbing lighting is warranted.
You are totally correct about the lights.
I wonder if Uhaul will rent the lady another truck to haul her stuff away in
Flashing green lights is what plow trucks are using. Really easy to see.
Fun fact: Did you know humans can see more shades of green than any other color? This is because the human eye is more sensitive to green frequencies and is located in the middle of the visual spectrum, where perception is best.
That is not true for us color blind guys. Too complex to explain here.😢
Here's a comment for the algorithm. Ex driver here, living north of you, Moses lake Wa. it's beautiful country in the PNW. Enjoy watching what you do.
The one with the halogens turning and the slow back and forward amber is 👌
Morning!
rotating beacons for sure.. I couldnt agree more that while trying to create safer scenes that the tow trucks and emergency vehicles with the annoyingly bright flashing lights are actually creating a hazard in the fact that they are not just distracting but flat out blinding especially when there is moisture present..
I think I like the slower yellow Brite pattern. Nice setup. I was a wrecker driver, in the early 70ity. Just a small 3/4 ton. Good for car, pickups and 1 ton trucks. The wrecker only had rotating lights. Sometimes the cops would stay and help keep traffic away and slower, but many times, I was on my own, and No Move Over Laws, back then.
I like the high speed red mode! Park your truck on the side of the road at night behind a very strong pole, and you will likely have multiple vehicles to unwrap from said pole.
I could not agree more regarding the LED lighting. Especially at night and as I age, my eyes are more sensitive.
I have cataract implants and every time those light flickers I see flairs shooting across my vison. Cop pulls me over I will adjust my mirrors to reflect it back at them.
LED’s are distracting to me but worse yet they do not allow for depth perception. So I can’t tell if they are 20 yards or 2 miles away.
I think led’s do not reflect on things, they are just bright.
Sorry, not true. LEDs are just another way to make light. No effect on depth perception vs incandescent bulbs.
But as we get older our eyes don’t work as well and if we have cataracts that aren’t repaired any bright point source of light can be blinding. If that’s your issue, see your eye doctor.
@@Dave-ei7kkyes a “led” is just a form of light. But the term here is inclusive of the casing, programming & strobe functionality and not just the basic light emitting source.
@@mesonichue6198 And how does any of that affect depth perception? Just curious and speaking as a guy who has had cataract surgery and experienced the glare that cloudy lenses can cause. If that or a greasy/dirty windshield are present I can see why very bright or strobing lights might impair someone’s vision.
@@Dave-ei7kk My experience was on a 5 lane rural highway late at night with homes, trees and fields. The only ambient light being the moon if out, yard lights and plain street lights at .5-1.0 mile intervals where crossroads are at, so very dark .
The best way I can explain is that the flashing/strobe lights are mounted on the side or top plane of the vehicle and are so bright that the vehicle itself is hidden behind the light due to brightness and speed of strobe. They can be seen from far away but determining how far is difficult because there was no reflection(?), they are very bright but create a more two-dimensional view. The old style rotating lights give a better perspective of distance because they are slower and a person can watch what the light is reflecting on(a tree, house, emergency vehicle or the ground for example) and have a three dimensional perspective as to where the light is located.
The night the strobe(led bulb) lamps were ineffective as a safety feature until very close to the scene there were two dark grey or black Sherrif vehicles on the side of the road. The single lamps on the cars did not form any discernible pattern that a person could use to determine exactly where the cars were parked as one car was overlapping the other so it was a cluster of bright lights that didn’t make sense.
Roof mounted rotating lamps of the older style would have made it easier to determine the location and number of vehicles and what was happening.
I can’t describe the scene any better than that.
@@Dave-ei7kk I did some research, found some studies and typed a quite long reply. Now it isn’t here.
Maybe I forgot to actually post the reply.
Short version: strobe effect vs old style rotator and how direction, the intensity, color, reflection and shadows are perceived.
Thank you for another video.
In my experience of LEDs and rotator lights (both in towing and hauling oversized loads) yes there is the stigma that LEDs are more of a distraction but I notice they are so much of a distraction that other motorists slow down to see what is going on out of curiosity and who doesn't like passing motorists to slow down around you.
Excellent Video Yet Again Casey 👏 ❤
I like the LED's with the Amber Rotation Lights.
Red & Amber's depending on the emergency. ❤
You’re on the right track. Nice scenery.
Old school rotating! There is bound to be a solution to the broken filament problem. I got faith in ya!
The 4th one was my favorite, definitely gets people’s attention, especially at night
Thanks for another excellent video Casey! I like the look at :24 . Like other people said, maybe a vibration absorber device to protect the halogen bulbs? I appreciate that you genuinely want lights safely noticeable, not just legally compliant. Us older people have more difficulty with large intensity changes in lighting. It is unsafe to go with strobes. Nobody wants drivers having to squint to see things. Good for you sir!
Hello Casey,
For those ugly wires instead of a rattling plastic lume you can get fabric tape and wrap the wires in that. It is a proper technique used professionally for wiring harnesses.
If you ask me it looks way nicer than plastic lume with zip ties.
The only downside is that the wires can be a bit sticky from the glue if you ever descide to remove the tape.
Number 3 looked the best... And hello from Gatlinburg Tennessee... We used to live in White Salmon WA. We used to drive over the river into Oregon, to buy our groceries, tax free .... Love your videos...
The first setting amber color is the one I would use. Good luck with the rest of the lights. Stay safe.
The rotary lights for the win! Put some cheap eBay L.E.D replacement bulbs and you are golden! 👍
Idk about anyone else here, but i really like the hum from the halogens. Definitely would suggest swapping the bulbs for LEDs for longevity. Buy a few pairs, never have to worry about it again.
Casey! Greater Idaho needs you!
the slow switcing pattern is the best in my opinion! it is the least distracting and as the visibility point in mind you can't miss that if you have your eyes open
Thanks for calling the power pole what it was. The facts are the telephone companies own very few poles. We, the Power Company, have to share our investments in poles with the other utilities.
As an old Power Company Lineman, who spent a lot of nights on the side of the road repairing / rebuilding power poles, I agree with you about the led being a distraction more than a warning tool. I started my 36 year career in 1973 where we had no led flashers. When our vehicles were outfitted with led's I noticed more near misses by the public & our repair trucks.
I still have the 1st rotating bubble lught that came off my 1st truck when ut was retired. It's in my shop mounted on the trophy wall. Right next to my last hard hat. My hooks & belt are mounted on that wall too!
You are definitely right. The rotating beacons are the best. Least distracting and least blinding by far.
Back in the day-> 40 years ago. We called it a "junk yard hook". take your J hooks and hook anything you can easily. you're not towing it just moving around the yard or lifting. Red strobes and amber beacons works.
I agree with you Casey the rotating beacon lights are less distracting , I had them on my shop F350 tow truck back in the early 80s-90s they did what you say warning people there's a accident. Australia
Put both types on, run whichever is better for the situation. And a stand up light mast could be handy
Casey, I know how easy it is to spend someone else's money. You could install a whaletail spoiler on the roof and put your Red rotating lights on the roof, that would give you the desired effect of the red lights hitting a white background and probably fix your lightbulbs breaking then you can put your LED light bar on the headache rack. If the lightbar has traffic advisory then you can use the lightbar while on the side of the road
I would try creating brackets to mount the red beacons to the cab of the truck to float above your headache rack that have enough clearance and give the same effect while providing less distraction to drivers. also try red led bulbs in the housings and see if that works.
great explanation on the lights.🤩👍✌a little dimer is better.
If you dont like the light bar, i have a stack of whlen liberty off eugene police cars. I could set you one up for your truck. We can program it to what ever light patterns you want, set it up with a rear traffic advisor function, it can have cruise, scene lighting, and more. Let me know if you want one I'll just give it to you.
Very enLIGHTening
Mount your rotators on something soft like shock absorber bushings, or rubber washers.
I knew that was going to happen! The lights look great