Chaos VS Kyogre (Sonic the Hedgehog VS Pokémon) | Versus Show
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
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The God of Destruction battles the Leviathan! But which H20 Titan will come out victorious?
Battle music:
• Primal Chaos - Vocal V...
Special thanks to research helper!:
JJSliderman
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Here is my advantages and disadvantages based on what you said:
Chaos:
+ stronger and tougher
+ greater abilities
+ more powerful
+ more reliable methods of victory
= similar speed
- less versatile
Kyogre
+ more versatile
+ likely more experienced and skilled
+ while he may be able to kill chaos with sheer cold…
= similar speed
- …chaos has counters to this ability
- less powerful
- less reliable regeneration
Honestly I loved all of it, your reasons matched up perfectly. Perfect Chaos is no joke either. I recently finding out this is a huge DB request itself. After watching this, I do see why now. As a huge Sonic fan, you done Chaos faithfully.
This man out there doing the absolutely most based matchups that DB won't do
Looking forward to the next time!
Well DB does seem interested in doing it so it might be possible.
@@KEEPTALKIN8215 Oh and I certainly hope that they do, it is one of my most wanted.
But in the worst case scenario, it's nice that it exists in some capacity at least
Death Battle might actually do this fight in Season 10 after the cryptogram they released
MY MOST WANTED YEEEEEE-
This was a good episode keep up the good work
Chaos vs. Kyogre Breakdown:
Kyogre (Loser):
+ While Kyogre could one-shot via Sheer Cold despite the power difference...
+ More versatility
= Ability to amp water moves would amp both of them
= While both would be able to stun each other...
= Similar speed
- ... it's unreliability makes it unlikely for that to happen
-... Kyogre's options are less reliable than Chaos's
- Less powerful
- Inferior healing options
Chaos (Winner):
+ More powerful
+ Superior healing options
+ Options of stunning Kyogre are more reliable than Kyogre's options of stunning Chaos
= Kyogre's water amp abilities would amp both of them
= Similar speed
- Less versatility
- Could potentially get one-shot by Sheer Cold
Kyogre destroys Chaos lmao, dont even get me started.
@@DukeFishron452 This was based on the video's logic.
@@DukeFishron452 keep dreaming, chaos negs
Where did this come from!?!? Spectacular work!
I did it😁, though really appreciate the help of JJ Sliderman for helping out on research.
Episode was great and all, but my only nit pick is that Primal Chaos was used. I wouldn't recommend you use something that isn't yours as your track without permission
Very intersthing first episode cant wait tonsee more
This was awesome and I hope that this MU gets made by death battle one day
same
@@a-force9255 btw, what’s your discord username?
@@arikhoveland Ben Crailer#9445, but its in description
@@a-force9255 I sent you a friend request
Well, there's a chance it might actually happen in Season 10 now
This was a fascinating matchup
Good vidéo and iam very intrest how you gonna animate dr Manhattan vs Nixon
I don’t think scaling Kyogre to other legendaries gives Chaos leeway to do the same. Sonic specifically states he wants to help Chaos and more than likely suppressed his power with evidence in generations as base Sonic could take him down. Yes it’s a more powerful and experienced Sonic, but base Sonic still isn’t at Super Sonic’s level as shown in the Starfall islands where the titans blow Sonic outta the water.
Chaos doesn’t really show crazy endurance, just really good regeneration. One bonk from Sonic to the weak spot disperses his body and he needs to reform elsewhere. Enough hits becomes too much for him and he reverts back to Chaos 0, a couple good hits and Perfect Chaos reverts as well as the emeralds being separated as they fly away out of reach, being sucked up into the dozens of typhoons and tsunamis Kyogre created through his mere presence.
Ultimately there’s not a lot stopping Kyogre from puppeting Chaos’ body and vaporizing him with an Origin pulse.
If Chaos’ ancestors are anything to go by that weak spot is very vital to its life. Although I do wonder if the Chao focused their anger onto Kyorgre could they create another Chaos Guardian lmao
As a Sonic and Pokemon fan: Well said
It's highly unlikely that Kyogre could actually puppet Chaos around at all since Chaos has complete control over the water he inhabits and turns into his body. It's Chaos' water at that point, not something Kyogre could easily manipulate since Chaos is already doing that very same thing since his brain is already in complete control.
Also whilst scaling to Super Sonic is out of the question, so is scaling Kyogre to the other Legendaries. And Chaos even in his weakest state was powerful enough to cause earthquakes with a single punch. Not to mention that Chaos can just use force fields to block any of Kyogre's attacks or even match them by using that same energy to fire beams. And Kyogre simply has absolutely no counter to Chaos Bind.
@@WrongJoke06 Kyogre RAISED the very waters on the planet, so he has just as much control over it as Chaos if not more so. And there are more arguments to say Kyogre could scale to other legendaries then Chaos to Super Sonic, who when he fought Super Sonic, was high ball planetary, as Super didn't have ANY of the end feats he had later. And not to mention Chaos lost to base level Sonic. Yes Sonic got stronger when he fought Chaos, but enough to say he could Super scaling in base? Nope.
Chaos didn't create force fields in his Perfect form or his sixth form. And Chaos has no counter to being LITERALLY FROZEN, which a single ice beam could freeze him solid, and his force fields can't stop. Also they only shield his brain, not his whole body. And he has no counter for thunder, which ALWAYS hits when its raining, which, Kyogre always makes it rain
@@22kingdomheartsfan Chaos' brain still inhabits the water and even has control over it without his brain needing to be inside it as seen in the Chaos 2 fight. What's stopping Chaos from using every single one of Kyogre's water attacks against it? Chaos has hydrokinesis so what's stopping him from controlling water now?
Chaos creating force fields at all in the Chaos 2 fight proves that it's an ability he has access to. And why exactly would Perfect Chaos *lose* an ability he had previously when he's supposed to be in his most powerful state? And you're forgetting that in the Chaos 6 fight, Chaos literally regenerated from being frozen and shattered in mere seconds. Being frozen is more of an inconvenience rather than a huge win condition for Kyogre given how quickly Chaos could shrug it off. And again, Kyogre has no counter towards Chaos Bind.
@@WrongJoke06 Then.... Why didn't his control over his brain save him from Sonic? Or Knuckles? Or Tails? What's stopping Kyogre from doing the same thing? More over? How the hell is Chaos gonna stop an Ice Beam?
And in that fight, it was only his brain, not his body. Which, that force field stopped attacks from BASE Knuckles, who's weaker then Super Sonic at that time. Chaos 2's force fields wouldn't stop an attack on Kyogre's level. And also, why didn't he use the force fields in his other forms? Are you forgetting he still took DAMAGE from that fight even with his regen? And clearly his regen had limits, as after Knuckles beat him, he lost all the Chaos emeralds, which an Ice Beam, a blizzard, any ice attack, Kyogre could spam that and Chaos is getting frozen. And Chaos has NO counter to being frozen, or Thunder spam.
I do write my own matchups
YEAHHHHHHH LETS GO CHAOS!!!!!!
Animation was good enough.
Though disagree with the results. Kyogre and Chaos should be roughly even in stats, when Perfect Chaos is used, but Kyogre should have not only the experience edge, but the moves to explot Chaos' weakness, ice beam freezes him solid every time, and thunder ALWAYS hits when it rains, which Kyogre could just spam, and it would hit Chaos' brain every single time. And given Chaos is literally made of water, Chaos is not recovering THAT quickly even with a better healing option, which Kyogre isn't likely to just sit there and let him heal.
Side note, if the fight starts with Chaos 0, one thunder or ice beam, Chaos done, he wouldn't have the time to use the Chaos emeralds, since Sonic in base form could beat Chaos 0 easily, and Sonic at the time he first fought Chaos, would not have the planet levels of power he has now in base form.
So I'll give this... a 7. Good fight, but room for improvement. I at least thank you guys for doing this fight since no one else seems to do it. And rather watch another channel then freaking Death Battle... So yeah.👍
This has some great protentional, But who animated this because the animation was great
I did
@@a-force9255 Oh cool great job with the animation
Chaos is Moon level. Old super Sonic and modern base Sonic are litterally same strenght because of battle with Chaos. They bouth defeated him, and modern Sonic was able to defeat enemyes who are Moon level, while moderns super form was able to fight solaris who is 4th dimentional being, and egg salamander and wizard who are universe treats.
Where did the Rayquaza destroying the Falling Star *calculation* came from?
It's from Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX
@@a-force9255 No I mean the calculation, where the 101 Yottatons came from
@@a-force9255 rayquaza is gotta be mad
These guys don't look like Freddy and Pennywise
super sonic HAS immeasureble speeds not light speed sonic in his base already has infinite speeds
This is a good fight I wonder who is gonna win
Chaos wins
I feel like Kyogre should've won that one. If Sheer Cold hits, it would literally one-shot Chaos, then Kyogre would Body Slam to finish the fight into Kyogre's Victory if Chaos is still frozen in this fight. :/
He really should have honestly. And this from a fan of both. They should be even in stats, Kyogre should also have the experience edge given he's raised the waters, on the Earth, which means he's been around since the beginning, Chaos has been around a long time, but not THAT long. And also Thunder never missed when its raining, which Kyogre always makes it rain, so it could spam thunder and hit Chaos no matter where he reforms.
@@22kingdomheartsfan if it hits Chaos' brain, then ok
@@AmazedPIKACHU Thunder never misses when its raining, so it would
@@22kingdomheartsfan seems fair. Hope Thunder hits Chaos' head
@@AmazedPIKACHU There's also the fact Chaos' body is water. Water and electricity, don't mix. So one way or another, that brain getting fried.
Me rooting for my boy chaos
Op death battel
Wouldnt be a versus match? A versus show is the episode itself and match is a different word for fight/battle sooo
Brainiac
do biollante vs undergrowth
Típico fan de sonic
Can you fix your audio?
?
@@a-force9255 The music is nearly drowning you out,
Its the water episode so yeah
I though death battle?😅
💃 *PromoSM*
The reasoning is very shaky and ignores a lot of Pokémon feats. Basically I don’t agree with Chaos winning especially when Chaos does in no way scale to Gaia and he also doesn’t scale directly to super sonic. Especially when Super sonic is stated to get more powerful as he goes. Plus the scaling is very skewed because Chaos can scale to characters that Super sonic fought but Kyogre can’t scale to characters Rayquaza fights? Both get beat by there respective opponents so you can’t say that only chaos scales. Plus you showed Hoopa movie footage which shows why Kyogre is way stronger than you say here. Basically I disagree. Kyogre is underrated and Sonic characters are powerful but not beating top tier Pokémon characters
Kyogre is shown to be vulnerable to Ice. While Chaos can use chaos bind, Kyogre’s Ice attacks are far more plentiful to keep spamming while if bind doesn’t get the job done then it’s out.
Kyogre has multiple different moves to heal like Aqua ring and rest. Rest which heals Kyogre completely and Aqua ring would be constantly healing Kyogre’s
Kyogre can amp his own power with status moves and can slow Chaos down significantly with paralysis.
Kyogre is far more mobile and would have a better control of the battlefield.
Kyogre directly scales to Pokémon like base Rayquaza who can more consistently fight threats far beyond what the Sonic universe even contains.
Kyogre would be capable of moving in and fighting beings from Giratinas dimension which is devoid of time so chaos bind, if it works like time stop it would likely not even work.
And lastly Kyogre is stated to be able to destroy the meteor in Delta episode which that feat would be more than what you scaled Chaos to anyway. And also we never ever hear that Chaos flooded the world. It’s only ever said to be station square and to prove this, on Sonic X we see that while station square is flooded and chaos is perfect, the president is watching the scene in a unflooded White House. So when using direct feats, Chaos flooded a city while Kyogre flooded a planet and could destroy a meteor that would completely bust the entire planet. This is without scaling. With scaling Kyogre would still win in power
Also forgot to mention that even if you scale Chaos based on the power of the chaos emeralds and not Sonic himself, then Chaos was only drawing from a fraction of the emeralds power. Even if we were to assume Chaos was taking half that still significantly reduces his power and is all the more reason scaling SS in Adventure to another SS is not accepted. Because if you find the Hoopa movie dubious then how is the Super Sonic scaling any different given what we know.
Bro stop coping, Perfect Chaos is at very least Large Planet level, Kyogre doesn't even compare
Even just one Chaos Emerald is capable of moving planetary fragments and splitting the Earth, and Chaos absorbed seven of them, he would still scale higher than this feat even if he doesn't scale to Super Sonic
I'll give you credit though, Primal Kyogre should be Planet level, but he would only destroy the Delta Meteor with the help of Groundon, that still isn't enough to beat Chaos
@@nathanielus5296 Ok so you didn’t read my comment. You just saw that I disagree then skipped everything.
Chaos doesn’t scale to Gaia or SS at there max. Chaos absorbs only the negative energy from the chaos emeralds which means he isn’t harnessing there full power. Sonic power levels are inconsistent so if you allow all characters who even touch a chaos emerald to scale to each other then guess what, Primal Kyogre scales to beings that can threaten the pokemon infinite multiverse. That’s what happens when you allow scaling for both and not just 1. Also the Delta Meteor is far superior to moving a piece of the earths crust. It’s was calculated to be Large planet but if you take the calc of the Delta meteors velocity and how fast it would destroy the earth and how much, it was calculated to be about dwarf star level. So Kyogre’s direct feats are better than Chaos’s scaling. If we go just by direct feats they have shown then it’s a wash and Kyogre would not even need to go Primal. Also it’s stated that Super sonic gets stronger over time as well as Sonic himself is always getting stronger. Sonic in the Modern generation could beat perfect chaos in base form. So I can tell that this video is your safe haven because if you checked threads online about this match, Kyogre is winning now which must hurt
Also, Kyogre is not faster, Kyogre is FTL at best but Chaos is MFTL+ via reacting and fighting against Super Sonic
Kyogre also doesn't scale to "beings from Giratina's dimension" because there's nobody there but Giratina, and Kyogre doesn't scale to Pokémon god tiers like Arceus and Giratina
And Sonic X is not canon