Senator Armstrong VS Funny Valentine (Metal Gear VS JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) | Versus Show
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Hi, hello there, name's HyperSsonic, the guy who helped in researching this fight. Let me just say, it was a lot of fun helping with this. So, yeah, thanks for having me here.
And if anyone has questions about anything involving research, you can go ahead and ask in the comments of this or whatever.
How could Amstrong touch Love Train if ts light energy and passively sends attacks throught time? Also you forgot about the pulling effect of other universe version of people if Amrstrong from AU is pulled his nano machines are also gonna collide with the OG Armstong. Also D4C can still be used even in Love Train but I will be fair and concede that the best reaction time showing that D4C has given us about speed is riveling Diego. Armstrong just has no win con since he cannot kill D4C or trap it so dimension hopping would be pointless
how tf can armstorng break through without infinite rotation, did you read part 7?
@@youraveragechad1948 It's simple. Love Train was broken by infinite rotation's ability to break physics. And Armstrong can do that as well. (Not to mention the fact that Love Train can be considered non-standard.)
@@slesh_master
>How could Amstrong touch Love Train if ts light energy and passively sends attacks throught time?
It's a physical barrier, and there is noting about it stating it can send attacks through time, only directing misfortune other ways.
>Also you forgot about the pulling effect of other universe version of people if Amrstrong from AU is pulled his nano machines are also gonna collide with the OG Armstong.
Yeah, but the nanomachines literally are able to directly counter the ability of D4C, so even if Valentine brought in another Armstrong, it wouldn't do anything.
>Also D4C can still be used even in Love Train but I will be fair and concede that the best reaction time showing that D4C has given us about speed is riveling Diego.
Eh, even then, Love Train main purpose is to be a defensive thing, not an offensive thing.
> Armstrong just has no win con since he cannot kill D4C or trap it so dimension hopping would be pointless
He doesn't need to kill D4C, all he really needs is to kill Valentine before D4C can bring in an extra, which would destroy D4C, and given Armstrong is faster by a large amount, it's safe to say he can do that.
While I agree that Armstrong would had won. I feel weird seeing the outcome play like this. Sure, Valentine is slow and if you know how his power works you wouldn't let him escape. (Dio vs Valentine). He has shown to simply dissapear by being obscured lightly and has even dissapeared using only his coat. Armstrong would need to know what he is doing before letting go of Valentine when ripping him appart... Regardless, Valentine wouldn't had a chance to beat Armstrong even if he covered himself in Love Train. He doesn't have the speed, Powers or Tools for beating him... Unless he Pulled out a Valentine with Nanomachines himself, Or tried to bring another person to beat him (Bring Raiden from another dimension, Or Convince Another Armstrong to fight himself. But that could be considered cheating so discard that.)
Altho, Nothing can break through Love Train but Infinity itself and D4C when attacking out of it. And Armstrong being close to 73% of speed of light, with more Megatons raw as power is still not close enough to infinity...
All you had to do was wait for D4C or Valentine to expose a little bit of himself before he could be ripped away from Lovetrain and die. At least thats how love train could been beaten.
The funniest part about this is that this would be the first time Valentine would be hearing the term 'meme' because SBR takes place in the 1800's
Having the merge wincon fail so hard the 2 Armstrong's teamed up to kill the many Funny Valentine's is easily my favorite part of the episode, that got me laughing so hard.
The nanomachines are destroyed as well with the clone, not only that, but Armstrong can’t break through love train, thats just objective.
I agree. The moment they are too close, nano machines cant do anything about that. The universe would try to correct the fault of 2 Armstrongs. And yea,nano machines are strong against physical stuff. But they are no match for the ethereal nature of stand powers
Armstrong used his patriotic love for his country to break through Love Train wdym
@@flame3919 bruh
@@flame3919 okay, based?
This is literal cap, you guys have no clue on who armstrong is and how strong he is.
"Last time I was this drunk I was in college"
Omg this is actually something he would say lmao
Ok, you sold me when Armstrong teamed up with Armstrong.
Who else but himself he'd truly team up with?
Yeah but still you were not spitting facts and Armstrong would lose@@a-force9255
Armstrong didn't lie when he said he could rip apart the president with his own hands.
This is one of your best episodes, keep it up guys 👍
Valentine is a saint 🗿
The thing is...from the start even without love train Armstrong has no way of dealing with Valentine since he cant kill or see D4C and the other wolrd collision is an insta kill if hit (*before the fight comment*)
Okay.....that was something
Ok
Well no, D4C would just transfer itself into another universe and that's assuming that the nanomachines are able to generate infinite spin witch is the only confirmed way to break D4C love train's pocket dimension. What I'm saying is that this is at least a tie if not a flat out win for Valentine.
Though I am 99% sure this is a Death Battle parody. In witch case ignore my comment.
Cool vid btw
P.S. Araki (jojo's writer/illustrator) said that D4C Love Train's "light bearer" is just a visual representation of D4CLT's ability
AKA Not only would Armstrong have no idea why he can't hit Valentine, he would instantly die due to the Multiverse Collision Phenomena
This is cap 🤣
Senator dies from D4C's abilitys and does NOT go trough love train ☠️
its debatable whether valentine even gets love train, but the universal clone ability wouldnt kill armstrong, his nanomachines are millions of separate objects, theyd most likely never make contact with their universe clone since they would be blocked by a million other nanomachines that arent the clone of the specific one, even if they did in a 1/1000000 chance, thatd be one nanomachine destroyed with millions left, its like throwing a grain of sand into a desert
@@koboldwizard the nanomachines just need to get within a few meters of the clone, so your point is invalidated.
@Deco1ze that's just when they start being pulled together, someone as strong as armstrong can easily ignore that. They still need to make contact to actually explode
@@koboldwizard just stop coping man
Valentine probably wouldn’t have access to love train as he would need Lucy steel to use it. So unless we give valentine lucy steel as a side kick he isn’t using it.
I kind of expected Senator Armstrong to act like a political opponent as opposed to your drunk uncle.
I should have won, but okay
The best in the serie so far 10 out of 10 deserve the wait
it isnt the correct outcome
@@NoTax9149_banned_on_reddit still great animations
“You are no god, no hero, NO HUMAN NIXON”
You did good editing my song into the fight. I almost didn't recognize it 😅
ignoring my opinion on the result (especially scaling to raiden in terms of speed that was the big one I didnt agree with) this was a solid episode manages to use your style of animation rather well and also the analysis was very fun even if funnys ends rather abruptly overall solid episode no where near nixhatton but better than the previous two not so good episodes
next times not something im super into but should also be fitting of your animation style overall good job 8/10
The two Armstrongs should have came together and imploded out of existence, funny valentine also has love train which senator Armstrong can’t go through, it’s impossible, one punch too the light would have ended in the death of Armstrong presuming they are the only ones in existence at that time of fighting, but it wouldn’t even get too that point cause Armstrong should have been dead once another version of him entered the fight.
To be fair, this is a fight that only has an animation because it needs one, like Shadow vs Vegeta. Realistically Vegeta would've breathed in Shadow's general direction and Shadow would explode.
Armstrong shows speeds comparable to Raiden and power enough to kill Valentine in one hit, and due to his fighting style, he would 100% just run up and kill him before he can react and summon D4C, so the fight would last less than a second realistically.
Stands summon fast, I doesn't take multiple seconds, also as seen in the manga when wekapipo throw his steel at va, it went through him, so technically so would any of Armstrong punches, giving valentine time time summon his stand and use it to do whatever he pleases
its debatable whether valentine even gets love train because its gained from someone else, even then, the universal clone ability wouldnt destroy armstrong, his nanomachines do block it. The clone ability destroys any object the clone makes contacts with, the nanomachines are millions of separate objects, a nanomachine from his right hand would not destroy a nanomachine in his left hand, even then, the nanomachines are so tiny itd be nigh-impossible for a the clone to ever reach the original since there are millions of nanomachines blocking it. its like throwing a grain of sand into a desert
The confused bystander watching a Colorado Senator throw a massive building at the 23rd president of the United States:
Bro ok, first of all, Funny Valentine would have won instantly if he caught Armstrong under the american flag as Armstrong was first running at Valentine, he then would have been drawn to the other Armstrong. Colliding with the each other and being erased. Also Love Train is not a physical barrier, it’s a literal gap in space time that has the appearance of light rays. It can literally redirect fate making Funny Valentine completely invincible unless a being with the infinite rotation comes in contact with the barrier. Spin was able to pull apart the gap making the small area actual space again, also wormholes and stuff.
Diego pulling back into his universe completely undid any damage the converging did. I feel like people thinking they could withsuperhuman force pull away from eachother not being that crazy. But love training yea.
by your own rules Funny Valentine would have been speed blitzed
NICE ARGUMENT SENATOR, WHY DONT YOU BACK IT UP WITH A SOURCE, being serious though, I’m looking forward to this episode! Rooting Armstrong, betting valentine!
Edit: just watched it and holly crap it was amazing! The fight was a bit confusing here and there, but I still loved it, next time, ohhhhh boy this is gonna be chaos, rooting both, betting idk!
holy cap, because this video is incorrect af
@@NoTax9149_banned_on_reddit I…. Don’t care?
@@Spritefightman I don't care if you do or not.
@@NoTax9149_banned_on_reddit then why are you commenting
@@Spritefightman a better question is why are you still replying?
*Armstrong rips threw Love Train*
Funny: No wait, let's try something else. Like rock paper scissors.
Armstrong: Okay, I choose rock. What do you choose?
Funny: Uh, pap-AAAAH! *Get's ripped in half*
Battle of the paterot
My man had to throw away logic and senses just to make Armstrong win
Literally all logic points to Armstrong winning
@@Ramonaqueenofhell The only advantage Armstrong have is strengh and speed, Valantine is smart enough to know how to distract and lure Armstrong into another universe, and he is careful enough to know when not to strike
Plus, no way nanoarmor is able to tank the molecular destruction, and I don't think Armstrong tearing through Love Train is possible
@@nosu5530 Armstrong is way too fast to ever give Valentine the chance to drag him to another universe
Also, love train requires the corpse parts and Lucy Steel and AND can’t be actually used offensively
@@Ramonaqueenofhell 1) Like I said, Valantine is very smart, he knows how to lure Armstrong into another word
2) Lucy's corpse still counts as Valantine's arsenal and so he could still use her. Just staying in love train with enough time might cause unfortune to Armstrong himself, judging by Gyro's dead from a small piece of scar at his finger slowly move to his heart.
3) If 2 didn't work, Valantine would still be able to attack Armstrong. He is a pretty good opportunite holder and know the best time to leave the Love Train and strike. With the Universe-Hopping abilities he could sneak towards Armstrong pretty easy
@@nosu5530 Valentine is smart, but he isn’t tricking Armstrong into being lured to another universe, Armstrong isn’t an idiot, before Valentine could realistically do anything Armstrong would be able to just get one punch in and splatter him on the pavement.
I’m pretty sure most people know Lucy Steel isn’t actually part of Valentine’s arsenal, I didn’t think that needed to be made clear but apparently it does
In Love train Valentine is just a sitting duck, being protected by that barrier but having no way to do anything to Armstrong in that state, and honestly, I feel like the original video gave a solid explanation as to why Armstrong would be able to bypass Love train or even survive touching another version of himself
Good analysis mate. But i think funny valentine winned
Even if I disagree with the result its still awesome watching this👍
Nice fight but I disagree with the outcome. The nano-machines resisting damage on a molecular level is impressive but Raiden with Sam's sword could still pierce through them meaning through long enough damage on a molecular level could start to damage the machines. Along with this The High Frequency Blade works by vibrating at such a high frequency they damage metals on a molecular level, not like Love Train which is a small dimension which redirects misfortune. Which means even if Armstrong could just break the wall it wouldn't matter as that misfortune would be redirected. Another thing is that while technically yea the sponge effect wouldn't work immediately he'd still be attracted to his other self and once ripped off couldn't just walk away. And Valentine could also just bfr Armstrong to another world. Now tbf these require Valentine to be faster which I do buy Part 7 being FTL but I get why other's don't.
Although I disagree the fight was really entertaining and fun and kept me on my toes. I especially like how Armstrong see's his other self and starts to play Rugby with him lmao.
Dude i really need a clear explanation to this like how the fuck can Senator Armstrong penetrate the Love Train ability and open it like how and the the fusion things of two similar things that Valentine always do would kill Senator Armstrong but he survive it and you say it was because of his nanomachine!?....dude I'm confused 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Finally, good to see someone who knows the truth about this mu
Decent video, but maybe the most I've ever disagreed with the result of a video. Also, the nanomachies could absolutely not survive coming into contact with their alternate universe selves, and saying that Armstrong could break through Love Train is maybe the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Overall a 4/10: pretty good animation and analysis, awful everything else.
Amazing!!!
Olá A-force eu quero que você e seu amigo faça uma batalha muito e esses personagens são Magolor o vilão de Kirby e o outro é Dusknior Pokémon
Nanomachines son. They harden during physical damage
Hey your Killua vs Akame video was wrong in it's result
Cool 😎 and Good Job 👏
Love it
Armstrong would not survive being merged
i would love to do some voice acting for you if you would like
Perhaps that can happen some day, just join the Discord and we see what will happen.
@@a-force9255 joining 🙏🙏🙏
@@a-force9255 You could also open a casting call
Can you do Android 18 vs Supergirl
To anyone who disagree with this, just with pure physical stats, Armstrong is surprisedly waaaaayyyyyyyy more powerful than Funny or even anyone else from JJBA, considering Funny can be reasonably scale to around city+ level, Armstrong is AT LEAST island to moon level, via his magma chamber punch feat which is can shake tectonic plates and raise magma from the Earth's very core, and even if Funny's Stand was as fast to Stands like DIO's, even at his absolute lowest Armstrong is STILL hilariously waaaaayyyyyyyy faster (1500 times light speed vs 500-40,000 times faster than light speed) and even if he is slower than Raiden and Sam, he is STILL comparable to them, and in the ends of speed, Steven is AT LEAST 10 BILLION TIMES FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT, and Ripper Blade Mode is needed to even keep with Armstrong's nanomachines hardening speed, and Stevn could EVEN CATCH the Murasama Blade that Jack uses to fight against him with his fingers, and Steven casually SNAPPING Jack's updated HF Blade EFFORTLESSLY is waaaaayyyyyyyy more impressive than some might think, considering that HF Blades are able to have quantum physics on via cutting molecules at the Plank level, and factoring how dense this stuff is, and able to cut molecules at the PLANK SCALE, potentially means that Sreven durability can withstand CORE UNIVERSAL CONCEPTS, and again, with the stat trinity HUGELY favoring Armstrong (FTL to possibly MFTL+ Funny via his stand and city+ level with Jesus corpse, vs casually ilsand to moon level and casually MFTL+ Armstrong via his nanomachines) Steven is no doubt the winner here based ON RAW PHYSICAL STATS alone, and this isn't even including stuff like the Senator's Red Aura, which increases his already InSaiyan physical stats even further, Steven's equally busted versatility, etc.
Ok but
Love Train
@@zucktug5508 Even with Love Train, considering how batshit insane the MGverse is, and A-Force had already proved that even with Love Train crazy hax, the Nanomachines would potentially resist being fused with another Armstrong, could sense Funny's Stand, and with the stat gap this big(city+ level and FTL to possibly MFTL+ Funny via his Stand, vs a causal Armstrong who is easily in the continent level and just as easily in the MFTL+ range of speed via his nanomachines) Steven would utterly obliterate Funny and even other JJBA characters like DIO.
@@RedLSBtheTitaniumStorm bro how tf nanomachines would obliterate Love Train, also scans for steven being mftl+?
@@zucktug5508Ask HyperSsonic for the speed calcs, and A-Force has already explained how the nanomachines can bypass even Love Train.
@@RedLSBtheTitaniumStorm send the explanation here then, i'm lazy to ask other people you mentioned
Armstrong:
Self-Nanite Manipulation: With his blood being primed with specialized nanotechnology, his already impressive abilities were amplified to an extremely boundless degree, this results in monstrous levels of strength, speed, durability, agility and reflexes, surpassing any enhanced, mystical and even cybernetic beings ever shown in the Metal Gear series. Indeed, his strength surpasses the combined might of the Winds of Destruction, and along side the likes of Sam and Raiden, is among the most powerful individuals in the World. He activates his nanomachines with a unique motion sequence, his being a pseudo-sumo stomp, after this sequence, he charged his nanomachines by absorbing energy from vehicles including: Metal Gears, Hammerheads, APCs and other sources of energy, and enters his nanite-empowered immense state. Furthermore, he can power up to an even stronger state, where he reach his apex level of power.
Immense Strength: Empowered by his nanomachines, Armstrong reaches an unprecedented level of physical strength that virtually surpasses all superior beings to date. His punches alone are able to generate powerful shock-waves and he is able to carry, lift and exert millions of tons of force (e.g lifting giant Metal Gears or cause the ground to rupture). He effortlessly overpower other individuals who were superhuman to begin, such as Jetstream Sam and Raiden. In the former's case, Armstrong casually overpowers Sam with little effort, going as far as severing the Brazilian Samurai's right arm, despite Sam's superhuman durability. In the finale of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, he again effortlessly overpowered Raiden and even broke his HF Blade with his bare hands (Doktor stating it defies modern physics). A single punch from Armstrong thrown into Raiden produced such powerful force, it completely destroyed the remains of the Metal Gear EXCELSUS, leaving a large crater, a feat which rivals nuclear warheads. Later on, when Raiden obtains Sam's superior Murasama Blade and activated his ripper mode to match and ultimately defeating him, Armstrong in his full powered state still prove to be superior in strength, as even a single blow could prove fatal for Raiden.
Nigh-invulnerability: The most prominent attributes of the nanomachines; they harden different parts of his skin in response to any and all types of physical trauma, with the side-effect of turning the affected areas black, with some splotches of red on the outer edges. His skin, as a result of the hardening, renders Armstrong virtually indestructible that even HF Blades, weapons which cuts on a molecular level, have little to no effect on him. Even Raiden or Sam, powerful enhanced cyborgs who could easily annihilate mountain size Metal Gears, were unable to do any serious or permanent damage.
Immense Durability: Even without the nanomachines hardening his skin, Armstrong still possesses incredible durability and resilience, greater than that of other super characters and even towering Metal Gears. He was virtually unfazed when he withstood the complete destruction of the EXELCIUS, a blast that rivals Nuclear Warheads and he was even strong enough to tank numerous powerful blows from Raiden in his Ripper Mode state.
Immense Speed: While Senator Armstrong is not as swift as the likes of Jetstream Sam and Raiden, he is still able to keep up with them in combat, being able to parry attacks from them as well as surprise them or catch them by the throat.
Nanite Relocation: Through the use of nanite relocation, Armstrong can harden the skin on certain areas of his body to further enhance his resilience to physical trauma and boost his already impressive superhuman strength. This method even prevents him from bleeding out by hardening up the injured area. When Sam severed Armstrong's arm, he used this to prevent the bleeding and create a makeshift blade which was strong enough to pierce through Sam's cybernetic armor.
Regeneration: Senator Armstrong can use his nanite relocation ability to heal all damage done to his physiology and even fully reattach severed body parts. Senator Armstrong can even use his nanite relocation to cover up wounded areas to prevent himself from loosing too much blood. He did this when Sam Rodriguez severed off his arm.
Energy Manipulation: Steven Armstrong's main ability is allowing him to absorb and store energy within his nano-tech primed body. He is also shown that he can levitate and throw vehicles as he is absorbing their energy. The energy in him can be redirected and be used to generate balls of fiery energy, fiery shockwaves and even trigger ground explosions. He can even use this energy to perform impressive dashes of superhuman speed from varied distances. Using it as a propelling force to increase the strength behind his charging strikes. He could quite literally cause earthquakes at will if he wanted to.
Exceptional Intelligence: Armstrong is very intelligent as he managed to create Desperado and selected the perfect henchmen to help him achieve his goals and plotted the whole scheme, and made every Desprado's move in the perfect time. Also, he built the Metal Gear Excelsus accurately. In addition, he managed to convince Raiden about his ideal and thoughts. Plus the knowledge of sports, and backround of military and politics.
Master Tactician: Armstrong is a genius level planner as he secretly operated Desperado and World Marshal from behind the scenes without leaving any evidence of his connection them for authorities to find out. He also incited a war with Pakistan under false pretenses that the president was almost assassinated while visiting the country for a peace talk. When Raiden tried to stop him, he used the opportunity to frame the situation as a terrorist attack on an American base to rally the American people to war.
Master Politician: Senator Steven Armstrong is a highly skilled politician who earned himself a seat on the senate and became the Senator of Colorado. He used his knowledge of politics and economics as well as the Patriots and their war economy to guarantee his election into the Presidency of the United States.
Expert Hand-to-Hand Combatant: While combating Raiden, Senator Armstrong has bragged about his combat prowess from his Navy service. Armstrong combines his nanite manipulation abilities with combat techniques from boxing, wrestling, and even football moves like shoulder tackles and punting kicks. He was able to fight Jetstream Sam, only winning when he improvised his nanomachine-infused arm injury into a blade. He later fought Raiden, holding the edge until Raiden got Sam's sword and exploited his weak point.
Piloting Skills: Armstrong was able to pilot Metal Gear EXCELSUS most likely owing to his Navy experience.
Immense Resources: Given his status as a Senator as well as his knowledge of the Patriot's activities, Senator Armstrong has gained a vast variety of financial assets and commodities which he can use at his disposal. He has been using his fortune to fund Desperado Enforcement LLC, Private Military Company with specialized enhanced soldiers and the latest military technology.
Armstrong wins easily, even with D4C'S love train. Sure, Funny valentine is effectively invincible, but they won't be able to bypass nanomachines. The power that Armstrong harnesses are far too remarkable when compared to what Funny Valentine can do. Even Raidens and Jetstream sam's HF blades found it difficult to cut through the nano-machines. Armstrong literally renders their HF blades useless. Not to mention, they cut on a molecular level aswell.
*(NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!)*
@@RedLSBtheTitaniumStorm yes lol
Also, Armstrong can withstand nuclear bombs and anti-matter. Plus, his strength is incredible. He can lift tens and thousands of tons weight. Can valentine do that? No. Here’s my proof. Armstrong literally overpowered Raiden, who was able to lift MG excelsus which was about 16000 tons.
@@Njile_786 *(YYYEEEAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!)* Though out of curiosity, can you tell when Armstrong survived Antimatter? Also, did you know that the Murasama Blade can produce heat comparable that of STARS, destroy s-cells with vibrations alone and split apart ATOMS?
@@RedLSBtheTitaniumStorm I’m not too sure about the Anti matter part. I got the anti matter information from another website that had a plethora of people commenting saying that Armstrong can survive it so I’m not too sure. But still, Armstrong can survive paradox attacks, due to his immense durability.
link to senator armstrong sprite sheet???
got it from mugen archive
@@a-force9255 ty
blud thinks hes death battle
I mean
That's like every versus show
guess i know to not watch this series now. you should also probably delete the video for how wrong it is.