Hughie Mom Explains Why She Left Him and His Dad The Boys Season 4 Episode 3
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Nah man stuff is still suspicious af
The fact she works for Vought
The 'alternative' medicine she carries around
The fact his dad tried to call Hughie not long before his stroke
I do not trust her
Honestly, you cant even trust Hughie in this world... So, yeah... That moms' a suspect.
Oooohhh! Hughies father tried calling him before she turned up and his stroke, now thats a good spot!
Fun theory, but didn’t we hear his dad on the voicemail just wanting to talk about a book?
@@Derp-rz1nnseemed like that may have been an old voicemail he had, but something is off about his mom. Peculiar circumstances.
@@JuniAku maybe
she wasn't depressed and it wasn't a stroke, she works for vought and this is horribly effective timing to distract him and make him panic
Seems like it
Makes sense
How you know?
We'll never know why she left.
This is not his mom
It's a shape shifter.
She gives daddy Pegg the V in Ep4 and he wakes up with dementia
He doesn't remember Hughie or her.
It's a terrifying scene once it's revealed.
Also the finale is heart breaking with Kimiko, Frenchie, Cindy, Starlight and Hughie
Oh fuuuck. I actually believed her
This is actually Hughie’s backstory in the comics, kinda. He grew up with his adoptive parents and an aunt who sometimes came over, who was always listless, never spoke, and traumatized. Hughie grew up hating his birth mother, so one time he spoke terribly of her and his adoptive mom heard it. His adoptive mom said “Don’t be so quick to judge her, Hughie. She was maybe just some sad wee lassie who couldn’t cope.”
It’s strongly implied that his aunt was actually his bio mom, and something traumatized her so badly she was unable to raise Hughie and left him in the care of his adoptive parents.
Yikes!…
Classic example of children suffering because of their parents bad decisions.
Wouldnt necessarily call it a bad decision
@@darklight5815 You decided to have a child without realizing the consequences of it. I know that it’s harsh to say some people should’ve never been born but not everyone is fit to have children.
@@atraina6921 The trauma and immense physical and psychological transformation to motherhood can fck up a woman more than anticipated. Her spouse should’ve helped her get proper help.
@@innos3ntCrim3 Always the man’s fault. She’s an adult, yet you want to give her the accountability of a child. Hughies father was probably depressed too, but he didn’t run out on his child and leave it to someone else.
@@atraina6921 Exactly! If the genders had been reversed, the father would be labelled as a deadbeat (not sympathised) and the mother and child(ren) would be victimised.
Nightcrawler: Blood is blood. Family is a choice.
Respect 🫡
anybody who's gone through this know how bad it fucked you up hearing this
The ptsd went crazy with this one
For real what the fuck man@@MrDork1215
Having gone through a very similar situation with both of my parents, this scene hit me pretty hard.
I didn't realize how deep it went until I heard "I'm really sorry that I hurt you" and just shattered
I went thru a situation like this but was my dad who left
Honestly I felt a little sad about this scene but since this is The Boys, my trust issues have been building since s2 and maybe Hughie's mom could have a twist like stormfront or some shit idk.
I think Hughie is the only character that doesnt have twists to his own story. I'm hoping we dont go into the comic version of Mother's Milk's backstory and where he got his name....
I like MM’s story they made for him in the show and not the comics. They gave him better character development in the show.
Oh don't worry, there is a twist coming 😏
@@DirtCheapFU The Boys is Hughie's story in a way, so it makes sense why he's one of the few genuine human people in their world.
If you think about it the ones in control of Vought would probably view Hughie as a potential threat as his involvement with Butcher helped mess things up for Vought. Yes Vought keeps bouncing back but a group of nobodies having an impact will cause irritation. Hughie has helped kill Supes, helped Annie become more sure of herself and become a threat in her own her and is even affecting A-Train and is basically the only one keeping Butcher from being a complete monster…which will help keep Ryan from being like Homelander. Hughie is very important and what happens will make big ripples. A psychological attack like his mom being a villain would be an amazing play…though I do hope this is just what it is on the surface
I cant wait for Starlight to meet Hughies mom and realize that she doesn't exist and is in his head.
Yes! I immediately thought that's she is not real since Butcher also loses his head
@emirhanproduction8516 yep! Notice how hes constantly talking to himself, but disguises it as preparing a talk to to his mom
Fight club
wait ! do that means butchers friend isn’t real too!…
@@officerspooderOh shit! This could be side affects of V-24. Butcher is seeing Becca and Kessler while Hugh sees his mom. That’s an excellent theory.
Her leaving isn't why i hate her. It's because she came back with incredibly suspicious timing, and that she works for Vought. She should have stayed away, especially since she isn't doing Hughie any favors
My mother has struggled with depression all her life, and still worked two jobs to keep me fed and clothed whilst often going hungry herself.
I'm sorry, but depression is zero excuse for neglecting and abusing your childs trust in you as a parent. Once you become a parent, you don't get to have the luxury of being selfish. And that's ultimately what it comes down to: there's resources and help out there, but it requires willpower to reach out for. It's hard-every day is a struggle- but as a parent you have a life that relies on you, trusts you, and loves you unconditionally. To betray that is among the most heinous acts you can ever inflict on another human being.
100 percent agree. Your babies come before you even if you are mentally unstable or physically.
My Mom also had severe depression for several years(couldn't even leave the bed and had breakdowns). Despite that, she kept me fed and educated for most of my adolescence and got jobs time to time when she tried.
The fact that Hughie's mom went 20 years without contact is ridiculous imo. Like, there should've been some moment in her life where it clicked and for her to make amends. That's why her depression excuse is bs. Cuz she's clearly putting said depression aside now to be there for her Ex-husband now.
@@AmiWhiteWolfdepends what u got goin on mentally. Wouldnt want the psycho murder unstable kind of mom
Idk if you've had kids yet, but only then will you truly understand how hard it can be but you'll also understand how important love is cause you'd do that shit all over again if only it meant they'd be safe 😢
Shout out to your mom 🙌🏽🔥
That's why I think there's another reason. Something more messed up
Gotta give it to "the boys" they really know how to present very flaw characters cruel, ugly, or just sad but still interesting.
And Cobra Kai really knows how to present very cruel or just sad characters as very flawed but still interesting.
@@zzzzzzzzzzzkyou must be crazy comparing.
@@bgos4727 No, I'm right on the money!
they also make them completely hateable which is fun. having a villain who you just hate and want to see die isn't something you see often.
@@zzzzzzzzzzzk well, both series does show flaws in their characters, and interesting enough to be remembered, and used as examples or as parallel.
Though cobra kai handle shitty people kind of characters differently from "the boys". For this instance hughie mom admits her mistakes and being REALLY FLAWED, and the pain she caused but doesn't regret it. Cobra Kai flawed characters eventually actually regret it and tries to be better from their mistakes.
And Yes they're still interesting for it
There is no excuse for abandoning your spouse and child💯
🧢
Your spouse is a different story. If you're being beaten or manipulated, there's no reason not to defend yourself and one of those ways is by just leaving the situation to figure things out
@@tomimpala If you leave someone for abusing you, that's obviously not abandonment
Bs
@@VictorVonDoom.not cap
People seem to not understand the difference between an excuse and a reason. She knows there’s no excuse but she’s telling him the reason why it happened
Yeah I think they know that though
But the show is trying to justify her but we cannot
What a weak excuse.
Every excuse is a weak excuse for abandoning a child
Nah this is some bizzare excuse tbh... Shes a b
There is no excuse
@@AegonTargaryenthesecond3096 What about... A cult wants my child so they can sacrifice him to an elder god so I left him un order to throw the cult off while they chase me for years to keep my child safe?
@@stealthynaxoThe fact that you have to resort to unrealistic scenarios to provide 'excuses' for this issue is quite pathetic.
Whether is true or not
1. You worked for vought
2. Hughie was a kid when you left him
3.) Everything you said is no excuse for leaving him
You’re right about one thing you are unfit to be his mom and you don’t deserve a kid like him.
As night crawler put it
“Blood is blood. Family is choice”
*”iT’S nOt A wEaK EXcuSe GuYS, yOu aLl jUSt dON’t uNDeRSTAnd dEpREsSion!”* -People who should never be parents
Especially with this day and age of resources and understanding.
The discourse in the comment sections shows that people are divided on this topic, and it's not for a lack of understanding.
On one hand she had depression, which brings in the defenders of mental health, but on another hand you have the concept of accountability, and how her actions it really affected Hughie.
I find it's perfectly fine to be empathetic towards her, while also saying she was in the wrong.
The show is opening up interesting topics, but you have alot of anti-intellectualism in the comments for mental health. It is not a replacement for personal responsibility. But if you say that, you're in the wrong because people have to defend the concept of mental health. Instead of only putting yourself in her shoes, put yourself in Hughie's. It becomes a nuanced conversation deserves a nuanced debate.
I'm actually surprised there are people that're defending Hughies mom here.
- said the terminally online tween half-raised by social media
Do any of u disphites know anything about mental health?
You're obviously too young to understand a topic like that.
"I Triiiiiieeeeeed"
As someone who had a terrible and abusive mother growing up, that was the phrase i heard so much. Caring about your own child is just something you can just mess up on like getting a college degree or starting a business. And the delivery is incredible, never once did she show actual remorse in the conversation. All she does is try to draw Hughie in with trauma dumping. That was always one of my mother's tactics when you brought something up that she did wrong: briefly but insincerely apologize and then give a long winded explanation that casts her as the ultimate victim to feel sorry for over the little thing she did to you, without acknowledging any real guilt. I mean, she's a victim too right?
The Boys has its flaws, but rarely was acting and dialog part of them
Depression is so scary. It makes you feel like you’ll never escape this black hole of misery that sucks away your life and makes everything so, so hard. So exhausting, like you have a horrible fever and cold that weighs down your head and kills your joints, your chest, your back. I used to feel like I was just dragging through my days, trying not to be aware that there was no way I could fight this hard everyday for the rest of my natural life. Trying not to think about how bad I wanted to sleep and never wake up…and people liked me, said I was happy and playful. I was good with kids, a spectacular babysitter and soccer coach. People would say I would be an amazing mom…made me almost cry because it meant a lot, but I didn’t want my pain to be exposed to my children. Luckily TMS treatment has been a real breakthrough for me…maybe one day I’ll adopt when I feel like I can offer the stability and support I want to achieve for myself. Hughie’s mom is my fear, and is a familiar struggle for lots of women. Really meaningful to see this. I still think she could’ve been in his life, but sometimes depression makes you feel like the best thing you can do for people you love is keep your own mess away. Hopefully the show will make an effort to show that being there, through the pain, despite the pain, and choosing to try your best to love, trying for that connection is worth it 💜
I know these words might not mean much, but you are a strong person never, NO A VERY STRONG PERSON keep getting better and staying strong not just for the people you care about and love but for YOU and never be afraid to let the people out cause if they worry that just there love showing
Yeah you just gotta get up out of it. I find cutting out all distractions and focusing yourself to be the best tool
Go outside, ive had it too but yes it dont go away if you dont change your outlook if you dont change yourself yes your DEMONS will eat you alive
@tomimpala That's like telling a cancer patient to just not have cancer.
She’s just a selfish human being that shouldn’t have kids. It’s one thing if you don’t have kids and got depression, but when you make that decision, that’s 100% on that person. A lot of people shouldn’t have kids.
I hate how characters aren’t allowed to be flawed in tv and movies . Every comment is people bitching like this stuff doesn’t happen in the real world .
They're bitching because she's an awful person opposed to the protagonists goals and wishes, almost like an antagonist who we're not meant to like. Jesus christ stupid people who think they're smart make me want to eat my own shit
I'm pretty sure the people in the comments aren't bashing her because she's a bad character, it's because she's a bad person.
Yeah, we’re not bashing her because she’s flawed.
We’re bashing her because she’s a bad mother with lack of empathy for her family she left behind because of her own self loathing.
Excusing shitty behaviour lmao, its bad in tv shows, its bad in real life lmao
Well it confirmed she is not a Supe
I honestly thought reason she abandoned hughie because dad was against her for putting compound V on hughie as baby
@@tvalokibatman6563 yea I never believe screenrent or theories from conspiracy to social media claiming they have evidence that his mom is a Supe when he mentioned about her making customs back in season 2 finale and yea they're are stupid who fell for it and buy for it and I beg that she didn't leave cause she's a supe which finally confirmed her to be Human
@@tvalokibatman6563well thank goodness those who believe it are stupid for falling for it like a fool
I honestly thought she was one of his hallucinations from the Temp V when she randomly appeared beside Hughie’s dad’s hospital bed
I'll give the writer's this. Not only do they make flawed female characters, which is wanted more and more these days. But this is the only example I can think of offhand in a series where it's the mom that left and the dad that stayed. It's a refreshing reversal of this trope.
Full House, The Nanny, Nanny and the Professor, Family Affair, My Three sons.... I could go on?
@@notbill08 Well, nevermind then lol. I guess I just don't watch enough tv.
@@darksideofevil13 It's just my age! I've watched *way too much* TV!
this is like a worse version of daredevil mother
this show is written by feminists lol
You’d think after everything Hughie would stop taking people off their word. She works for Vaught
Worst part about this whole thing is that parents say they left was because they were too young and the day they leave is after their child gets attached.
You can't say you love your child and then abandoned them for years and only return when it's convenient 😑
For real, would you still come back if you abandon your child for 15 years and suddenly appeared again like nothing happen?
My brothers dad wanted to come back. He got his brother to try to talk to my brother and my brother said he has nothing to do with him. The guy left when my brother wasn’t even a year old. The only reason he wanted to come back is that my brother was making good money. So Hughie’s mom might want something from him or vought is planning something.
as a shape shifter
Nah, no sympathy here. Her excuse is that “I was depressed over my own life choices as an adult, so I decided to ruin your life as a child”
She can kick rocks.
And before you come at me, I had clinical depression and was on meds for years, but I made the choice to stop being weak and feeling bad for myself and have been off them for years.
i dont think you know what postpartum depression is. its a medical condition. not just someone being a little sad sometimes
@@carrot4759you mean like the diagnosed depression I had and had prescribed medication from the VA for? Yeah I know depression. And the moment I decided I wasn’t going to let depression or the medication I was taking control my life was when I got free.
My mom was around the same age of Hughie’s mom when he was born. 23. No college education, no dad for support, tons of abuse, shitty childhood, poverty, and I never heard a peep out of her until she was finally able to let it all the trauma go. She climbed her way up life, got a diploma, had regrets, but was always the greatest mom on the planet who I owe my life to.
Hughie’s mom felt depressed and then just abandoned him. That’s a unique evil to me. She can regret it all she wants but yeah, did deeply traumatize that boy for life lol
Damn right. Life comes at you regardless. If you have a responsibility to others, you have to see it through. You have to sacrifice for your family.
You aren’t clinically depressed then, clinical depression doesn’t go away
Hughie's mother doesn't care about her family's tough life, only herself. I think she came back to use them.
She works for Vought, of course this is gonna be bad. 😑
to be fair, going to get help for your mental health is honestly understandable, the not contacting afterwards not so much so but again Hugh Sr. probably didn't take her leaving that well (honestly, who would?) I'm not saying she's in the right, just that her situation a bit more nuanced
but... she still is a Vought employee, and we know the people who worked for that cesspit are either hopelessly naive, morally bankrupt, or the scum of the Earth, and Hugh-mom seems more tuned in than she lets on so he can't be naive, and Hughie has become one of Voughts high level targets, both due to his damaging actions towards the company and plain old personal animosity. Hughie can forgive her all he likes, its his choice, but the stakes are too high for him trust her
Her excuse: me, me, me, me, me.
Just because you develop mental health issues doesn’t mean you abandon your child. You try your best to get the help you need while being involved in your child’s life as much as possible. Her choice to get pregnant at 22 in the first place.
To be honest, I can understand leaving for some period to get help. I really can, namely because I was abandoned by my own birth mother who needed serious help. But she excused her way out of calling or writing or doing anything to be in Hughie's life after she presumably got better, much like my own birth mother yet again. So she can take her sorrys and shove them right back where she found them.
Don’t you worry Hughie. Mommy’s home
I love, LOVE, LOVE how she turns it around onto his father and Hughie is written to be understanding about it. If she were a white man, she'd be written to be an abusive pos that went after some younger tail.
“Weak excuse”
It’s not an excuse, she’s giving the reasons for her actions while still taking accountability. You can explain the reasons you did what you did but still admit they were wrong because you are still responsible for your actions. She said it herself theres no forgiving what she did to Hughie and his dad.
My main issue is that she spent 20 YEARS of no contact and no explanation, in her words she made contact with Hughie Dad’s 2 years ago and STILL didn’t try to contact the child she abandoned for 2 YEARS
But that does not justify the way she acts NOW, i mean the way she demands full and completely control over the family, to just step back into their lived and expect Hughie to deal with it no problem, to just take ownership of his dad’s medical situation, and then whine about Hughie ‘raising his voice’ and have little to no reaction when he gets upset at her having left them, just kind of brushes it off, doesn’t seem at all invested in them, seems more like a superficial scumbag who wanted the easy life of just having fun with your kid and then just leaving and coming back as if nothing’s changed, she seems to care very little about them. I mean she made choices all about herself, completely selfishly and not thinking about how it affects others
weak excuse
Yes weak excuse
Using depression as an excuse to abandon your child and husband for over 20+ years and only coming back when you’re husband is about to die is crazy
Ppl are missing the point just to point out how bad the mom was. She wasn’t making an excuse with the depression, she was literally explaining what happened. Sometimes simple answers are actually just that, simple answers. It may be simple the person giving the answer, but to the person who’s been affected, it’s the worst thing imaginable.
She was right. She wasn’t cut out to be a parent. So she should stop trying to manipulate Hughie with this talk of your love for him.
This woman was shallow, self-serving and willing to do what she wanted to better HER position, even if it meant traumatizing her child and leaving her family. If you won’t swallow your fucking pride for your child, then you don’t deserve to have one.
How did you manage to make it about pride and benefitting her position?
@@Reality-Distortion she was just “so depressed” that she completely abandoned her life and her child. There are SO few circumstances in which that could be justified and this isn’t one of them. She left her support system rather than admitting she had an issue and a lasting one. That’s pride. And “benefitting her position” doesn’t always look like Stan Edgar. She benefits her position by refusing to confront any uncomfortable realities until she is pushed into a corner to do so. She’d have been a shitty mom even if she did stick around as she is.
@@RavenDreadful That's not pride or being shallow. That's running away from the reason you tried to self-terminate just the night before. Like yeah man, staying alive is definitely "self-serving" and "benefitting your position" but all your choice of words is doing is bastardizing those terms. They don't fit at all to the context. Yeah, she definitely should've tried to get help or keep trying to get in contact with her son but you make it sound like she walked away because she couldn't be bothered and wanted to focus on career or whatever.
@@Reality-Distortion Like I mentioned (and this is actually shown in a separate scene from this one) her intentional avoidance and silence when Hughie confronts her with working with and profiting from Vaught as a corporation. She shows what really seems to me to be just flat avoidance when Hughie brings up that Vaught flat out killed his gf and she just changes the subject. I don’t think she actually cares about Hughie, I think she cares about the idea of having a positive relationship with him
"Big sad so I went off"
That's a joke, not an excuse.
You really don't understand clinical depression if you reduce it to just "big sad" my man... hopefully you never have to understand it, cause whether on you or someone close to you it is some really horrible stuff
@@maxi1ificationdon’t be a parent, there’s no excuse to leave your child
@@maxi1ification lol, found someone who justifies early marriage and orphaning a child
@@maxi1ificationi had severe clinical depression.. and let me tell you.. it only happens to the most selfish people.. i tried many things. But what finally helped me was just stop thinking about me me me.. my self my self... and i started thinking of my family.. what i can do for them
@@devanarayans5131unfortunately for me when I think about it in that case I just go on auto pilot and just be emotional less when I comes to myself and fake being ok to others should it stay that way forever
Theory: The compound V that Hughie and Butcher took last season is screwing up both their minds, and Hughie's mom is actually a hallucination, just like Becca. Hughie was always planning on injecting his dad with compound V, but was so conflicted that he created this hallucination of his mum, who just happens to work for Vought, to show up with a load of Vought's product, which was ultimately what he actually ended up doing - showing up at his dad's bedside with comp V
People here could really use checking what is dictionary definition of "excuse".
Postpartum depression does that to a mother, it's not justifiable but people thinking about that are stupid; It shouldn't be about whether it's a justifiable excuse or not, things like that happen in real life and both the parent and the kid suffer a lot, Of course, it would be better if the mother stayed, but sometimes, a mother who suffers from postpartum depression may do worse things to a child than leaving them behind. The worst thing is that we don't even know what causes postpartum depression, and there are obviously people who might help, but they don't always do. It's just how life is. My dad offed himself when I was 7, and it took me a long time to understand what that meant and how it affected me, and honestly, I forgave him, it was the healthiest option for me, so I get why Hughie here wants to forgive his mother, I don't belive anyone in this entire world (Or even beyond our world) likes the feeling of hatred
I have kids with mental depression and I fight for my kids
I was hoping Homelander was gonna come outta nowhere in this scene 💀
............no something wrong i can feel it
Anyone notice that she doesn't give any specific details?
Maybe an illusion?
She works for vought and shows up now of all time?
Talk about being suspicious enough 😂
What kind of an excuse is that?
I have met people with real depression. The kind that can be found and measured by medical tests. And, while I would not want to accept that, as an excuse myself, I can kind of understand such a person dealing with something like that goingtheir own way. In someways, might’ve been a kindness. I don’t think a young child should ever be exposed to somebody who is spiraling in that kind of despair. One would hope, that had his father not been in the picture she would not have just abandoned him, but instead of giving him up to a relative or something.
That happens with hughie and real life parents. Who believe that the decisions they make will not affect their children!!!😔😔😔
There's no excuse. But depression is a bitch. I went through it after leaving the Army. After 12yrs 8mon 2 wks 2 days. Straight out of high school. The social anxiety and seeing how chaotic the civilian world was, was just hard to transition to. Then when you finally get over all that... It's hard to get back into everything and back with everyone. Some times it just feels better and therapeutic to stay away and find a new 'you'.
I always imagined the military would be much more anxiety provoking but I guess when your roll and the logistics of keeping you healthy is sorted, that really simplifies everything.
Im not sure how to feel about Huighie’s mom but if she really was depressed and left in order to get better , than i guess i can sympitize with her a bit , just a bit.
Depression is not an easy thing , it’s a very hard feeling and people have diffreint solution’s on how to make themself’s get better , she probably just didnt want Huighie to see her like that , she wanted to get better so in when she came back she would have been more happy , if Huighie saw his mom depressed he would have probably goten depressed too , when kid’s see their parent’s upset they feel uoset too , they share their parent’s emotion’s.
Im not sure how the writter’s are planning to do the story with his mom but if they are planning to make her and Huighie fix their relationship , i dont think it’s going to impossible , there’s a saying that say’s that “the future start’s now” , it’s never to late , we live in weird world , weird thing’s gappen , i dont think Huighie’s mom is a character who we should hate , cause we dont know much about her yet.
poor hughie! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
What about the rest of the years? Give me a break. Get out of here lady.
Even though she would confront her over, abandoning him and his father, she should’ve walked away after that move on with his life
As someone who deals with depression I get where she is coming from
But also I get hughie because I had and absent parent this just is complicated
The boys as show is always complicated fuck up and messy
But this is just whole another level of fuck up
I can just barely look over her abandoning her child. Depression is depression and there’s no helping that.
What I can’t get over is her lame excuses for not keeping in contact. Her husband won’t return the calls, then mail letters until Hughie finds them. Do fucking anything to not leave your son in the dark. But no, you gave up.
Weakling. I mean, really, parenting isn't something you just "opt out" of. If i abandoned my child because I felt bad, i would be smeared for it, and rightfully so.
I smell vought shenanigans.
Wait... She was depressed, dressing in the morning was like climbing Mt. Everest - so the answer was... to abandon the light of her life and leave her son?! DID THAT HELP ANY? Did she feel "better" without her son in her life?
Being depressed doesnt justify anything. Sire medically its bad but thats not an excuse(especially when you yourself hosted those dance parties with your son) besides, if you give a promise to your kid(especially if it's incredibly easy to do) then you really just kicked him im the balls before you left.
Man post partum card is overplayed as fuck, like, how the fuck are you gonna tell me women just can't at least be there or something, or they kill their children over who knows what the fuck, but men in warfare while heavily injured and amidst the chaos can still make sound choices?
TBH she showed so little regret and smiled half the time. Maybe that was a choice by the actress but it conveys so little remorse. The scene made me angry as hell
She made a choice. Period.
So her son, her husband and her home were the cause of her depression. Leaving them apparently solved the problem.
yes
Was this the story they had in mind since day 1?
I suspect she's a tumor hallucination and not actually there
It’s Hughie’s backstory in the comics, kinda. He grew up with his adoptive parents and an aunt who sometimes came over, who was always listless, never spoke, and traumatized. Hughie grew up hating his birth mother, so one time he spoke terribly of her and his adoptive mom heard it. His adoptive mom said “Don’t be so quick to judge her, Hughie. She was maybe just some sad wee lassie who couldn’t cope.”
It’s strongly implied that his aunt was actually his bio mom, and something traumatized her so badly she was unable to raise Hughie and left him in the care of his ado
Ok, I ll say it. She s back just because she has some ulterior motive which could be something petty and selfish or because Victoria somehow tracked her and put her up to this in exchange for something. She may have even forced her. Why not?
Sounds like the same bullshit excuse Daredevil's mum used.
I shed a tear during this scene.
Same
@@thgduels4519 😉
For Hughie, of course. No one shed a tear for his mom.
@@varric no, I shed a tear for the mom
@@TommyBlack-rv4nd the mom who abandoned her son she HAD, hughie suffered cause of her terrible decisions and now she just comes back into his life like its nothing,she was depressed yes but she was because of her terrible choices,she basically said i hate myself for having you so i abandoned you and the man i married leaving both of you emotionally scarred
Mental health is not an excuse to quit or be a terrible person. You always have a choice no matter how fucked you mind is.
Its not an excuse, its an explanation.
@bloop1980 you can explain why your a piece of garbage or why you gave up. Doesn't change the fact you're a quitter and a horrible person.
@@bloop1980 In this explanation she used it as an excuse. Just because you do not expect forgiveness or think it justifies your actions doesn't mean you are still not bringing up a "reason". This sort of thing always comes to a head when someone has done something so awful that there really is no excuse and no explanation that justifies beyond "I am a terrible person". Maybe depression is an excuse for 5 years or 10. 20 years is enough time to grow up all over again and have an entire other family. If you're not institutionalized, disabled, and your skin doesn't kill people on contact, then you shouldn't have any other reason than "I was selfish".
this comment section is very dumb shockingly…the people making these comments are the same ones being satirized in the show.
When Biden loses in November, it’s gonna be because of how his side treated conservatives
@@GCNMMAhas nothing to do with my comment 😭😭😭
@@chipotlelover2007 someone hid my comment like a lib
Agreed. As someone who was abandoned like Hughie (on much worse, multiple occasions), I can still hold some understanding and empathy for the mother while also not excusing her actions. I think some people are projecting their experiences and have this really black and white thinking going on. There is still a lot of stigma unfortunately.
I understand how she's feeling with her mental condition, but abandoning your family when you could've downright sought their support makes no sense to me. Hughie should still be mad to be honest.
I understand where she is coming from
Is his mom really there? Or he just hallucinating her being there.... just like Butcher hallucinating seeing Becca....
Hughie has never shown signs of hallucination so I highly doubt it
Ten bucks says she put him in the hospital cause vaught paid her
Unjustifiable, what if that child felt depressed? What if them waking up and putting on their clothes was hard? They never asked to be born you made a decision to fuck around you need to take responsibility for your actions.
Big whoop. There's stages between seeking proper psychiatric help and abandoning your family indefinitely, without a word - note those last two parts (and she never tried to reestablish contact when Hughie was an adult, in fact she 'thought she wasn't cut out for parenting', so her intention was abandonment).
She's acting like she's the only depressed person in the world who's living on the cliff edge of suicide. It sucks that she did, but so many others have. And its never an excuse to abandon your primary responsibilities (ie raising the child you chose to have)
My baby mama pulled this shit. But the courts believed her she got custody
#BelieveWomen
I think all the people commenting how weak an excuse that is don't really understand post-partum depression. It's not even like regular depression, it can lead parents to become a serious danger to their child if untreated. And it was very poorly understood at the time Hughie would've been that young.
that doesnt mean she did the right thing,she left the man and child who loved her and came back only when the man she married was in a coma,she also works for vought so i bet she was gonna turn hughie into a supe and the dad found out
@@sulaimanaqeel9272If you were a danger to your own child then the only moral and ethical thing for you to do would in fact be to leave. At least for a time.
@bloop1980 she still should have had contact with him or visited time to time she also didn't leave for him she left for herself
@@sulaimanaqeel9272 One she made it very clear she didnt want hughie to see her like that or be around that. So wrong on that point based on what she said, two, she tried to make contact, as she explained, but hughies dad was too upset (understandably) and three, she did for herself, and for Hughie. It can be both.
You can get treatment instead of just hightailing it. He could’ve thought it was his fault and become depressed/suicidal himself, as she didn’t even leave a note.
I understand that most people commenting are younger or have unresolved issues with their own parents, so they find it hard to sympathize with a character who abandoned their child. But we need to destigmatize depression. In this context she left to save her own life and made Hughie's better. Imagine how much worse the trauma would be for Hughie to learn that his mom offed herself and not understand why. Or worse, realise that him and his dad is the reason why. Of course it's a fictional story, but it's a huge problem if you bring this stigma to the real world.
Destigmatizing depression does not involve using to excuse terrible actions. That does the opposite of destigmatizing it. It makes people hate people with depression. Your stupidity is causing damage. There is such a thing as too much empathy. The stigma on deadbeats is deserved.
Why am I feeling third act scenes from fight club when I’m watching this? 🤔
You just broke 2 rules
Also, she has power of attorney and control over medicine
In episode 4 she will give Simon the Compound V and he can walk through walls
She ain't no Tyler Durden like Negan
@@blackdynamite_5470 She has control over medicine? Cool superpower.
Such Audacity oh mah god 🥶
Bullshit excuse. I’ve been depressed since I was 16, takes everything I have to leave my house most days, and I would never leave my son no matter what. My dad is bipolar and he never left either…depression is no excuse for that
She’s def gaslighting
What a garbage excuse
Yeah, I always thought postpartum depression was the reason why Superman's mom didn't go after her son in Man on Steel. The excuse they didn't have anymore space ships was weak because we see lots of ships being used there. So depression from being the only woman to have a natural birth on Krypton probably messed her up.
Norm of this show
Always make excuses and justifications for shitty behavior awful parenting etc..
A bunch of people that aren't women or parents chatting big in this comment section...
"that aren't women"
Please stop with the feminist excuses man and women are just as capable as right and wrong
Wow. She isn't aging well.
Would.
Translation: my selfish desire to be free from this lifelong commitment, which makes me guilty, so I decided to just leave the situation.
People be like this without realizing
Too little too late sister mary, hit the road-
Thats stupid
Depression makes you sleepy? Please, for the love of God, tell me I did not just hear that string of idiotic nonsense.
Wow… this is the most selfish thing I’ve ever heard. Am I suppose to fell sympathy for her?
"It was life or death" she's literally admitting she valued herself more than her son. I really hope the writers were not trying to get us to sympathize, because her POV just makes her sound beyond pathetic and astoundingly selfish.
Even her "apology" is just self-victimization and pitty pandering.
So it would’ve been less traumatic if he grew up knowing his mom offed herself over motherhood?
It doesn't mean she valued herself more than her son, it means she value staying alive more than not making her son motherless. Those sentences aren't even similar. Also she wasn't there to apologize and literally said she does not expect forgiveness.
I will never abandon my wife or children in the future. I would be lost and probably die of a broken heart if i abandoned them but thats never gonna be me. And i will never divorce my wife because i will not be the same failure my father was. However i forgave my dad for divorcing my mother over something as stupid as calling her stubborn and wanting her to abandon her family and friends to live with him in NC. He still has to live with that as he continues to live with the consequences of taking away his sons future happiness. I could have been married by now if it wasnt for getting grounded for very stupid reasons (his version of a reason). I was going through a phase back then and because of our constant fighting it drove us apart. Often makes me think about time travel just so i can expose my younger version of my father at the moment i was born. The court would find him unfit to be a parent and my mother would have gotten full custody of me. Our lives would have been different without him.
After hearing all of that I came to the same conclusion…she’s a pathetic excuse for a parent. Thank god Hughie had his Dad
I know hughie dad a weak loser, but what made her so depressed about? She had a good home, sweet boy, loving husband what more could you ask!?
Umm... sometimes depression doesn't need a reason and can happen when you have everything. It isn't always situational. Also people may look like they have everything to an outside person but they don't know there could be more under the surface.
@@Drstrange3000 still think that's petty
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Yeah depression is hard and it can making doing the simplest things feel like climbing a mountain but that’s not an excuse to run out on your kid.
Maybe this isn't his mum? He was 6 so maybe he doesn't remember her face well
It's a shape shifter
What a pathetic excuse