Fokker Dr-1 Triplane - Flight & Early Engine Discussion - WWI Event at FOF
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- OK, Gang, here’s a fun flight in the Fokker Dr-1 Triplane I did a while back that also includes some interesting discussion about early engines! Enjoy!
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Still one of the coolest-looking airplanes of all time.
I think so also. Even though it’s a German plane it’s the coolest plane because of the 3 wings and it’s the Red Barron .Found this channel today and really like it .
@@joegilly1523 Even though it German? LOL! It's actually Dutch. Germans have kick ass aircraft, they got merica to the moon with the Von Braun Saturn, The Germnans had awesome ww2 birds known as the Foke Wolf, Messerschmit, Junkers among others. Porscha comes from Germany. German quality and precision makes for the best of the best....even though its German, Bah!
@@free-birdrocker8809 It's because Germany was the enemy, not because of German engineering, which I agree, is very good.
It is indeed sweet. Seriously innovative for the time, being shorter wings, but 3 of them for maneuverability! That is so cool! Haha. Anyways, I'm so glad people have kept these things preserved after all this time so we can see them for ourselves too
Seems like the low speed G's this thing could pull were comparable to modern fighers at high speeds!!. Just SO much surface area with those 3 wings!
I think Mr. Fokker was only 19 years old when he started building airplanes. Amazing
RC: Thomas Sopwith was only 24 when he started building planes. An amazing time.
Social media has ruined 19 year olds now
I love these old war birds
I really appreciate what you have done for us. By collecting, rebuilding and flying, PLUS, telling us about your planes, you really get us excited. Learning about how these planes work is so damn much fun. Thanks for sharing.
The plane that sparked my (and probably many other) initial interest in flight as a child!
Absolutely. Such an iconic machine.
She purrs like a kitten. Thank you for sharing
Being a cousin of both the Wright brothers and William ( Billy ) Mitchell. Who is know as the Father of the U.S. Air Force and beyond ! I never grow tired of the history of planes and aviation. Thanks for sharing the knowledge !
A kite with a motor. Best airplane design ever!
Beautiful plane and congratulations on your modesty, typical of a great man and pilot
Marvelous. Seemed to take off effortlessly.
If flight simulators are accurate effortlessly is a understatement, those 3 wings produce so much lift it basically goes into the air on its own with no stick input. Awesome aircraft, along with the Sopwith Triplane, only really obsoleted during the war because the high lift also meant lower speed, as the war progressed energy fighting tactics and speed became more and more valuable, but right up until the end nothing stood with the triplanes in acrobatic performance.
Good job Kermit! I had the opportunity to fly a Meyers Bi-Plane, when I was traveling along over the highway I could look down and watch the cars going faster than I was going....Lord, we have come a long way. This open cockpit type of flying is more fun than riding my Harley! Keep up the good work!
Probably the most iconic plane in aviation!
it was copied from British design triplane
Very cool aircraft and video Kermit. I saw on display at Duxford, in 2019, the actual Le Rhône 9J engine taken from Richthofen’s DR.1, it was salvaged from the aircraft after his fatal last flight.
I see Kermit and I'm reminded of the scene from Apollo 13. "If they could get a washing machine to fly, my Jimmy could land it."
Great stuff ... I could listen to Kermit talk about the ins and outs of these planes for hours.
Thanks a lot!
I've wanted to see the DR.1 for YEARS! Finally!!!
Kermit, you lucky dog! You get to fly all of the awesome birds. Even though it's been modded, it still looks the same and it's still the most recognizable Dutch ww-1 bird of all time! Love it!
Amazing collection. Thanks for the video.
Beautiful Sight Thank you for sharing 👍😎
That was a treat to watch. Thank you Kermit & gang!
Hermoso!!!! Popularizado por el gran Manfred Von Richtofen con el grandioso "circo volador" , excelente trabajo!!!!
Que bueno que no soy el único que habla español :D
Y tienes razón
Jajaja ,bueno ,por lo menos ya somos dos ,saludos
@@cop0425 Si XD, saludos también.
Perfect explanation of early aero engine design and development.
I worked my way, bottom to latest of comments. It gets more technical ! Bottom line is that I love that you are reposting old videos, love seeing you fly Kermit. This is my only comment. I am an Aviation fan, you are our favourite aviator, please post more.
ye gadz, it looks like somebody scaled up a child's toy!! it's amazing it works at all.
What an amazing aviator. An amazing man.
This. Was. Great. Disclosure: I love antique and vintage Rotary and Radial aircraft engines. They were great! Not to be forgotten, is the Air War in WW1. Some guy called the "Red Baron". Some guy named Eddie... Nutz.
So much knowlege about these planes and aviation in general. You are such an interesting speaker, you seem so comfortable explaining things to people with very different levels of understanding. I am certain that there must be many lovers of old planes like me that don't really know much about them. Your channel provides the information and your experience with these vintage aircraft makes me feel like I now know a lot ( I don't). Thanks for sharing Kermit.
Thanks for the kind comments. Appreciate your support.
With his knowledge and experience, Kermit should be given an honorary PhD from somewhere.
Very informative ! The engine discussion was very interesting. Thanks so much for the video.
Love that Dr-1! What a great looking plane.
Absolutely marvelous!!
Just found myself interested in WWI aircraft, Thanks for the video! It'd be a dream come true to pilot something like this!
Great video and good presentation concerning flight characteristics and engine design philosophy.
Hi Kermit, I used to fly TJ Browns Fokker Dr-1. In fact I used to duel tow gliders with it. Fun airplane to fly, it didn’t like cross wind.
Once in summer 1994 I saw 'Charly Brown' with his Spitfire on airport Münster-Osnabrück standing at general aviation. I took an airplane to get from the other side to the tower and general aviation. 'Charly Brown' had on the real overal of WW2 and he looks great with his moustache. When 'Charly Brown' started the engine of the Spitfire it really spit fire out of the exausts and it was really loud. 😊👍💪😀🇪🇦
How scary for the common person at that time strafing and such. How cool!
Love the explanation thanks!!!
Love every about this. Thank you very much
nice bright red target to shoot at . LOL
And I’m timid about flipping a 33” model airplane propeller!!! OMG I can’t imagine the feeling of starting by hand something like this. You flew just like the “ Baron” ... beautiful flying of a classic.
I saw one of these fly at the Rhinebeck Airfield New York state.
Watching them "slide"-fly almost "sideways"-is wild.
Rhinebeck. Ahhh. Look at my response to dyer2cycle, below.
@@gregshamieh6339 👍
That place was a blast.
A great place to be in the summer.
Rhinebeck was, and is, really cool. The first Fokker Triplane replica (which was red, of course) they had crashed some 15 or 20 years ago, and was destroyed in the accident. They then built a second one (black). Really great with the on/off rotary engine.
@@k_enn Funny thing, that.
The aircraft you're referring to as 'The First' replica, was actually the second.
The Actual First One was pulled from a barn in France -- with the actual Rhone Rotary Radial still in place -- and was 'bitsa'ed back together by removing rotten airframe bits and using them as patterns to create new parts.
When that airplane was later inspected by a Modern Working Aeronautical Engineer, he pronounced it as 'Patently and Spectacularly Unsafe', at which time it was retired to ground-bound display duty, and the Rhinebeck boys set about creating the Second airplane, and making use of structural knowledge newer than 1917. ;-)
Wanna guess which plane I took the ride in? =8-o
Everything after that day of my life is apparently gravy. ;-)
The sound is amazingly and looks amazing!
Sir you had me on the edge of my seat with the engine history. I found that fascinating.
Likewise. What a concept, a person thinking "how can we cool the engine better" and has the 'wild' idea to spin the engine block!? How many would have thought he had lost the plot?
Thank you for all that you do. You sir make peoples dreams come true. Many dream of flying, you bring them closer to that flight. I thank you Sir.
SOOOooo ... I was flying the newest addition to the Farah Family Aviation inventory in 1975, which was a new Cessna Turbo 210. Kenny (2nd heir to the Farah Family fortune) and I went up (El Paso International Airport) for his 1st flight in the new plane (their inventory consisted of a Lear 25, a Turbine Commander 695A, a newly restored A20 that only Willie Farah could touch, and the new T210). Kenny was accustomed to approach speeds at a minimum of 100 knots, which is what he used along with gear and flap deployment where flaps were engaged in 3 gradients. He maintained 100 knots down to flare (again now at full flap setting), when suddenly the nose dropped dramatically but we didn't touch down, meaning there was no "hard landing event". After we reviewed what had just happened during taxi, I thought I knew what prompted the event. Kenny said "OK Mr. Smart-ass, let's go around again. We taxied down to Runway 8, took off, ran the pattern, but this time on final I dialed in full flaps, but did so while using an 80 knot speed across the fence on final and the landing was smooth (meaning normal). What did we learn ? The same as Kermit in the D1. At 100 knots and full flaps, the wing hid the airflow over the empenage and stalled the elevator. We lost elevator authority and the planed dropped uncontrollably. It was a valuable lesson for both of us ... and we never discussed it again. It's OK to be right, but never argue with the man who owns the plane.
Kermit you are a National Treasure ! Thank you !
Dear Kermit
The scarf used by pilots on open cockpit aircraft such as this nice Fokker DR.1 and other biplane has got dual functions, first to keep the pilot neck warm and second important function is Airspeed indicator! They leave the end of the scarf outside the cockpit. If they fly fast they feel the pressure on the neck, and if it gets loose, you are approaching STALL speed.
Third function. Wipe the caster oil off your goggles.
@@massmike11 True Michael, the real reason. Thanks to the castor oil mist they never got constipation.
The 2009 Kermit was wondering about is the "machine number (serial Number) of Richthofen's Dr1 as reported in the after action report by the RAF on 25 April 1918. This number would have been on multiple parts such as the wing struts etc. as well as in a recess in the upper wing and on the front cowl along with the build date 13/12/17.
I built a model of this plane in the 1960's. I have never seen one fly until this video. Wow!
Beautiful!
Thank you for posting
Woooooo!! !! !! You have flown Dr1!! Brillant!
Kermit it is always a great day for this old Shoe (Axel) to get to watch one of your video....Hope you and yours are doing well....Merry Christmas to you and family....Thanks my friend....!!
For pipes or circuits I like to use Open and/or Closed. They are audibly dissimilar enough to be distinguished. The throttle is Open or the throttle is Closed. On and Off are so similar they are easily mistaken, the line is off/on. When Open or Closed are used there is much less area for confoundingly confusional mistakes.
Very interesting, must be fun to fly 👍
Beautiful aircraft!
Amazing! Thx so much!!
My mother's cousin made his own tri plane kn Hudson Bay Sackuwain Canada ,I seen him fly it in the Pass Manitoba ,I still remember him flying at ghe Air Show .
this tri-plane is one of my favorite planes. the red barron fascinates me
Very cool!!!
Thanks Mr. Kermit
What an interesting and knowledgeable guy you are 👌
You’re a good Airman Kermit Weeks !!!
..knew it was a radial right away when the guy was pulling it over...the cylinders weren't turning with the prop..Very beautiful plane, and I'm sure the radial is much more reliable than the original rotary...only real advantage of the rotary is the "cool" factor of seeing the cylinders spinning around when it's running.. :)
There's waaaaay more to it than that. The rotary has some functional and physics features that make the standard radial reproductions a VERRRRY different airplane. To start with, the rotary radials don't have throttle plates -- the engine is controlled with an ignition kill switch. You have two engine speeds -- WFO, or coasting (with the ignition killed). In level flight one controls speed by turning the ignition on and off with the ignition toggle switch. The second difference is that the spinning engine generates a whole lot more gyroscopic precession -- when the ignition is on and the engine is spinning at full rpm, the precession makes the airplane want to rotate around its vertical axis -- washing the tail to the left. Managing that -- during take off, for example -- is quite the handful. Under full throttle the airplane wants to wash the tail out, The D1 control surfaces will allow the airplane to climb, or turn, but not both at the same time. So on initial climb, one would climb until the tail washed out, then level off, steer to straighten out, then go back to climbing. Wash and repeat. Add a rotary engine that is either on or off, and a D1 pilot has a lot of things to manage simultaneously. Watching one take off with the original rotary is like the staircase of death. ;-) The reproductions with the fixed radial are far easier to fly.
If it sounds like I know a lot, its because when I was a Cub Scout in the early 70s, my Den Mother's husband worked for Cole Palen at the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome. Apart from the fact that a Spad I was 'enslaved' to help restore is now in the Smithsonian, I also got to ride on Cole's lap in his D1. It was the single scariest ride I ever took (in anything), even if Cole was a master of flying the crazy thing.
I hope Kermit Never Stops Flying & Never Retires from Aviation. we need him doing what he does. this G. W. Bush era video highlights how cool his toys are & how vast his knowledge is. Too Cool.
1:24 Says April 2013. Wouldnt that be an Obama-era video?
yes!…absolutely. I don’t know why/how I thought this was filmed in ‘02…I don’t know why/how I missed that. either way, the Hardware is from Woodrow’s time & way before G. W. Bush busted Mach I in an F-4, but well after Alfred Einstein discovered Gravity while Inventing the Lightbulb
Please don't mention politicians they are a buzz kill.
*Great video!*
That's one event I wish I could've attended. :)
Can’t be easy seeing where you are going
Ground crew guy deserves a raise.
Epic , just Epic !
Thanks mate!
That was GREAT!
Ahh Kermit von Weekshoffen, ze Orlampa Baron!
One might sneeze at radials in ww1 birds, but they're good for quickly revealing (if originally equipped with rotary) an aircrafts other flight characteristics.
And they have a throttle.
They’re much safer. I’m all for authenticity but I wouldn’t hesitate to put a radial on one of these.
Rittmeister Von Richtofen is 🙂 smiling, magestic plane and thank you for the video i would have loved to been there
"Around the turn of the
Century in the clear blue skies over Florida?"😳
Kermit, WOW!!!! Your taxi visibility looks to be about 5%
Lovely machine for it's time. Great presentation by Kermit too. Very informative. Love the way you Americans pronounce the design manufacturer "Foe Ker". That man was Anthony Fokker. A bit like the swear word but spelled with an O!!🤭
Nice video hopefully ours will be in the air soon
I think it's great to watch the really really rich enjoying themselves, good on them.
We must be wise when we choose what really really rich families we won't to promote.
Over a choice of a packet of sugary biscuits to promote a tax avoiding company, to giving algorithms and 👍🏻's up to someone who encourages the next generation to look at their inner motivations and dreams, FoF is my preferred choice.
But I sometimes like to indulge in a biscuit too, which although annoying, is just a fact of enjoying life.
Perfeito!!!
Só faltou o Muttley... (pura brincadeira)
Hey Kermit weeks nice video! Also one of your aircraft that you have the b26 bomber if I remember correctly was stationed here in Lakeland lender international airport and seeing if one year in the future you can take the b26 and bring it to Sun & fun flyin expo
So cool, Kermit.
Great!😁🤟
Red baron flew one of this in ww1 right? Iconic plane.
Hermoso!!
Back in the 80s a guy used to land at my boss's farm strip, Craysmarsh farm, in a 3/4 scale replica. I can't remember what engine it used, but it looked and sounded the business. This ones better though....
Ta.
Sweet little bird
Unfreakin' believable.
i talked to him one time down there and when i had a 66 GTO bad ass , he said at that time is when he got his 1st P-51 - lol .
Rotaries would be scary. Blip the switch for engine control. And all that mass spinning around.
The radial makes far more sense and has to be a LOT safer as well.
Initially I was thinking what the hell are those wooden slats on the lower wing ends,,, then aaahh they are skids
@@nickhill934 The mass is rotational, for the most part. Lot's of harmonics going on, but remember, the crank doesn't turn, the crankcase does. A lot of early planes used brass fuel lines. They were very prone to cracking from vibrations. Fires were not uncommon, until they switched to copper, which is softer.
..being the early 1900's were early internal combustion engines, and tended to be the ultimate in simplicity, I just never got why they even messed with the rotary configuration..seems like the arse-backward, complicated way of doing things...I can't imagine any situation where a rotary configuration would make more sense than a conventional layout..and it seems like with the entire crankcase and cylinders spinning around, almost every system(ignition, fuel delivery, exhaust, etc.)would be more problematic to design/engineer/build...and for what benefit?....
@@dyer2cycle Cooling, the radials couldn't get the heat away fast enough. The engineer's knowledge and metal technology at that time were still developing and being able to make a cylinder that was strong, light and able to dissipate the heat effectively and efficiently was still a challenge.
@@vumba1331 Yes the airflow past the plane wasn’t fast enough for the engine cooling fins of the time so spinning the engine fixed that.
Nice to see these old machines still flying, even if the engines have been changed etc :-))
-Yeah That's true. He even said they will be putting the rotary engine back in as soon as it is complete. Wow I can't wait to see him fly that baby ! !
Happy Holidays!😎🤙🕉🎄🎄🎄
Vuela muy bien y se levanta muy rapido 👏👏👏👏
Look at that Fokker!
Such a beautiful flight minus ground cannons
Love the DR.1! With a Rotary it would sound cooler..plus you could turn really sharp.
Turn sharp to the left. The gyroscopic precession and torque made it hard to turn right. In early dogfights, it was easy to predict which direction an opponent would turn to evade you if their engine was rotary. The inline engines could turn either direction fairly well.
The DR1 was developed from the second tri-plane prototype designed by Fokker. The first was the V4 which had equal length lower and middle wing and a longer top wing. There were no outer wing struts which the test pilots did not like and the overall size of the aircraft was a little bit smaller the the V5. The V5 became the F1/DR1. The V6 was a little bit larger then the V5 because it had a inline 6 cylinder Benz engine.
Windsock was blowing around pretty good imagine it was noticeable while flying.
The Siemens Schuckert birotational radial was indeed an achievement and clever idea, but never a working solution for anything. Finnish air force did also testing and evaluation in the twenties with that engine on some domestic airframe designs, never to get it on acceptable level of reliability. Others were already heading towards better engine layouts.
A bit more than 80hp, I bet. That thing must climb.