Has Anyone Ever Fired a Gun in Space? Plus: Space Cannons and the Guns Designed for Astronauts
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Do people actually eat this? I've heard a few stories from friends who got excited to try it and said it tastes pretty terrible.
Really Saccharine.
video starts at 1:50
no! fuck in video ads. will never support ANY company that employs them.
Ur magic crap cereal is going to give health problems.
There is nothing wrong with sugar,
It's natural and tastes alot better.
You eat magic crap for breakfast ur going to be farting and have stomach pains all day.
All I can think of is this bit from Mass Effect 2..."This, recruits, is a 20-kilo ferrous slug. Feel the weight! Every five seconds, the main gun of an Everest-class Dreadnought accelerates one to 1.3 percent of light speed. It impacts with the force of a 38-kiloton bomb. That is three times the yield of the city buster dropped on Hiroshima back on Earth. That means: Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space! (...) I dare to assume you ignorant jackasses know that space is empty! Once you fire this hunk of metal, it keeps going 'till it hits something! That can be a ship, or the planet behind that ship. It might go off into deep space and hit somebody else in ten thousand years. If you pull the trigger on this, you are ruining someone's day, somewhere and sometime!"
Scrolled down looking for a comment like this 👍
In truth though, space is so massively vast that most projectiles will either run out of energy (it just takes a lot longer) or eventually get pulled towards a large planet or into a star.
I came for this comment. However, the final space battle on earth seems to dispense with that law.
@@1lovesoni An object traveling through space will not lose velocity unless it comes into contact with another object, or a massive gravitational field. And as you said, space is fucking big. It's far more likely that it'll keep going into deep space, than it is likely it would hit something.
@@aaronself2411 first space isn't a perfect vacuum, secondly since the projectile has no onboard propulsion it will gradually lose enertia, very slowly compared to on earth, but it cannot move indefinitely, that would violate conservation of motion. What you're describing is basically a perpetual motion device. Lastly, no object in space is ever fully beyond the gravitational influence of nearby stars, or bodies. It may be very mild, but it will still have some effect. It might get pulled into an orbit, like a comet, but it cannot possibly have permanent motion on it's own.
Guns are practical in space. Cowboy Bebop taught me you can hold your breathe, use a IWI Jericho 941 to propel yourself to safety 🤣
I know this is a joke, and I know you'll probably never make it to space, but if you're in a vacuum please never never hold your breath, you will rupture your lungs
@@dsdy1205 depends on how you hold your breath. You just have to make sure not to overinflate your lungs. Your ribcage and musculature is still in tact, and provides some inward pressure. It's like how your veins won't depressurize and freeze (provided you don't have a large hole in your vascular system) since the pressure is actually somewhat maintained by the smooth muscle that coils around your main arteries/veins.
That said, you CAN use guns to propel yourself, as recoil absolutely exists in space...it would just likely be kinda hard to aim and get the vectors right. In a pinch, it would absolutely work, though. You also have to remember there's no air resistance, so the bullet will keep going (make sure to aim it to not destroy someone/something you don't want to destroy) and...so will you in the other direction, so watch your speed if you don't want to bang into something overly hard.
@@SubduedRadical Your ribcage and musculature do not help when the air ruptures your alveolar walls and finds its way into your pulmonary capillaries
@@dsdy1205 I've done this three times but you are correct in that you have to exhale hard if don't want to drown... in your own blood/lymph fluid. Then have the crystals cut you from the inside out. Good times. RIP James...
i think my favorite bit about this is the statement "I know this is a joke" then the continuation "but I'm gonna treat it like it's not to look smart instead of just enjoying the joke, thus ruining it". it's very funny. good job, you accomplished your goal
Simon: "Yeah, but not for the reasons ypu might think"
Me: "Space bears"
This guy gets it. Moonbears.
What about that movie Ad Astra? Brad Pitt ran into homicidal, Norwegian, space monkeys. Well, a baboon, which might not technically be a monkey. It was a primate anyway. Angry primate.
@@jblob5764 Waterbears (tardigrades), sent into space for tests, mutated by space radiation into something huge and monstrous.
F*cking Rune Bears
I wish I'd had a gun like that a couple of months ago, when I ran outside in my pajamas with my .22 rifle because I could hear that something was attacking my goats. I thought it was going to be coyotes, it wasn't. It was a huge male mountain lion, it had gotten inside a completely enclosed pen by peeling the metal roof open like a sardine can. It killed 3 goats and had another in it's mouth. I shot it at close range; about 8-10 feet which made it let go of the goat, but it only seemed annoyed by such a small caliber. It left, but came back a couple more times. The goat survived, but had a hole in his neck the size of my thumb from those big fangs.
Later I realized I just became a Groucho Marx joke, "Last night I shot a lion in my pajamas; how it got in my pajamas I'll never know!" (yes, I know it's an elephant in the original joke).
I'm getting too old for this, might have to consider moving back to civilization, but the way things are going I'd rather take my chances with pumas, wolves, and rattlesnakes.
30.06 is best for nighttime surprises. That said a multitool firearm seems like an amazing tool I cant think why we dont have yet.
@@TreyNitrotoluene
I was a fan of the .30-06 back in the day. It was a little underpowered compared to the rounds I was used to working with at the time, but it had fantastic ballistics.
Thankfully we don't have mountain lions in VA, but I do have bears and coyotes on my ppty, along with deer, fox ..... I prefer a 270 over a .30-06 because of the higher velocity, flatter trajectory, and lower recoil. .308 is a nice middle ground between the two, plus they're cheaper than either the 270 or .30-06.
Buy a shotgun at least, they dont cost over 200$ for a pump action (a working one if you want a really good one save up for a remington 870 or a maverick 88 they cost a bit more but are well worth it) and if you cant afford one but you have tools or someone who has tools will work with you (im assuming one or the other with your name) the LMT12 (Land Maintenance Tool 12) is a shotgun blueprint for a pump action that is mag fed and can be slamfired (as long as you hold down the trigger and you work the pump good its basically mag dumping but with 12 gauge) i can message you a link if need be or email you the pdf i have.
another cheap option is crossbow just make sure to use broadheads and they are quiet.
I know it's overkill, but I sure do love my .44 Magnum Repeating Rifle. I can think of few predators, large or small, who are likely to shrug off that slug. I grew up in, and still spend a large amount of time in Alaska. A bear "probably" won't charge you and try to maul you. But if that big magnificent creature is having a bad day and decides you're in its way... it's good to be able stand your ground. It's not like running is an option.
Space cannons in ANY thumbnail is a winning title
Click bait indeed!
One of my favorite lines from "Armageddon" was when Will Patton's character Chick ask Colonel Sharp, "What are you doing with a gun in space?" For some reason it just resonates with me.
Because Bill Paxton had a bigger impact in every movie - or series - than any survivor movie ever.
@@laughingoutloud5742 Paxton was not in Armageddon
@@laughingoutloud5742 will Patton not Bill Paxton haha
Nah, best line was "Russian components, American components. All same thing! All made in Taiwan!"
@@MrStretchification "I tell you, TOUCH NOTHING, but you all bunch of cowboys!"
I'm so glad Simon said "micro gravity" instead of "zero gravity."
True, but "freefall" is the correct term. (The force of gravity in orbit (low earth orbit) is about 90% that on the surface. So it isn't even "micro". It's just not felt due to being in freefall.)
5:36: "...when Leonov tried to crawl back through the CRAPsule's..." lmfao; probably unintentional slip but still accurate.
The whole time I expected to hear that an astronaut in danger of drifting away fired a shot to propel them back to the station.
ME TOO🤣!
Every time I see Simon promoting Magic Spoon, I can't help but think about the classic Life Cereal commercial featuring finicky eater "Mikey".
I deliver mail, and one of my stops has a boy and girl (about 8 and 10). One day, I delivered a package, it was a brown carton, but it said "Magic Spoon" real big on the side. Those kids got so excited, and I had no idea what it was. They told me that it was their favorite cereal, didn't have any sugar, and they loved the stuff. A month or so later, they got another shipment. I told the kids that I had a package for them that they would like, and asked them to guess. They both said, "Grandma !!!" I said no, it was from Magic Spoon. They were still happy, but their mom about fell over laughing.
I love that story
Today I found out how it's possible to spend 21 minutes answering a yes/no question. After 15 minutes I'm thinking the answer might be yes - now I'm on the edge of my seat. After 17 minutes... I've got what, unconfirmed reports? So... I come all the way out here and all you got for me is unconfirmed reports. Now if someone asks me if anybody has ever fired a gun in space, I can say - 'Maybe.' But with authority!
Agreed. It's annoying. And when does he breathe?
Proves you wasn't listening
I had to skip several parts of the video because I got tired of waiting. He also fails to mention the satellite which shot the asteroid last year to kick up debris for studying the effects.
Were you just not paying any attention? Like at all? He immediately answers the questions after he introduced it. The reason why the video is 20 minutes long is because after it answers that yes/no question it goes on to providing context more details because they are interesting.
@@Pcat0 For All Mankind already answered this question. The series has science advisors. The U.S. and Russian soldiers on the Moon used .223 caliber automatic rifles.
My father wrote his masters thesis about the future militarization of space. The college rejected it because they thought it was to much like science fiction.
They are kicking themselves now. Believe me.
That man’s name? Isaac Asimov
I knew guns WOULD work in space, from MythBusters. I didn't know anyone had actually fired one in space though.
I learned it from "For All Mankind."
Magic spoon actually does contain sugar (5 to 10 grams per serving), they just don't call it sugar, they call it allulose (which is sugar derived from fruits).
Simon, your attention to technical details when discussing firearms does not go unnoticed. Very nice work by you and your team.
Yes! We are so used to journalists and reporters getting these things wrong. I remember that Simon and company did another video about gun rights and they really did their homework on it.
Omg, imagine a fist fight in zero gravity! I bet that is friggin hilarious!
That depends on if there are any handy massive solid objects to kick off from. Because if there are, it would turn from hilarious to very bloody, very quickly. If you actually really try to punch someone in a microgravity environment, and you use your legs and back to kick off from something with enough mass to allow you to do so, you could break a lot of bones, on both you and the guy you're punching.
We’re going to find that out.
Last time I looked, Magic Spoon was 12$ a box in Canada plus shipping. Eff that.
Spindle Windbag's concern for our dietary well-being, seems motivated by ego and cash. Certainly a special type of guy.
@@juancana457 Simon has to put food on his table, like all of us. It is just an advertisment, no one has to buy it.
@@ABW941 Very reasonable, yet I don't care for my intelligence being insulted by feigned concern for my welfare. Impart it's value, qualities and low price, without the saccharine portrayals. Thanks for your time; only the best 👌.
@@juancana457 Personally I do care more for the online psychology thing, thats far worse than overpriced sugar.
@@ABW941 Retired from medicine, thus I believe in due diligence when it comes to my dietary health, yet mental health's nuanced nature requires advice from mature and honorable sources. Good luck.
In the NASA Lunar Survival Challenge two 45 cal pistols were included as a possible means of self-propulsion. They were ranked #11 out of 15 items which were to be ranked in order of importance, #1 being the first and most needed choice.
In the awesome movie, Moontrap (1989) the hero (Walter Koenig of Star Trek fame) uses a firearm as an improvised thruster to escape a sticky situation in space.
Such schlocky good fun, that movie.
OMG, I remember enthusiastically renting that when it came out. Was pretty mediocre, but glad to see Walter K getting acting work.
He ended up having a good career as a writer.
Simon trying to sound hip is the funniest thing I'll hear all day.
Hip? 🤣🤣
@@AcornElectron trying to*
@@billyalarie929 yeah it was more the using the word Hip to mean current or ‘down with the youth’ that I was laughing at. The demographics of this channel are older than time.
1. Simon's ads are actually fun to watch so I personally rarely skip then
2. Those magic spoon boxes have such good aesthetics I would hang then on my walls lol 👀
5:36 Factboi says "crapsule", and it is glorious.
LOL, only Russia space astronauts have to be prepared to fight bears upon landing
What is that British cereal ? Lol
No sugar? Hmm interesting
you should talk about how much that cereal costs
Too much I'm sure
Simon is in Prague and advertising a product initially only in the US, his thoughts on the price wouldn't matter as it's aimed at people who wouldn't be fazed at $10a box ( that's £7.50-8.00 a box so an expensive Mark's & sparks St Michael brand cereal,. Not my market thanks).
These are the real questions that need answering
Are they? Because much like when I have sex, no one asked.
@@mattmarzula so the same applies as your opinion you gave? Interesting 🤔
Season 2 of For All Mankind covers some of the same subject matter. Yes, it is a fictional show. Some people seem confused about that.
Now on a completely different subject, Simon and company need to update their video on whether or not any non pilots have successfully landed an airplane after the pilot has been incapacitated, because it just happened this week in Florida.
Who knew Simon was such a good actor? I almost believe that he likes that nasty grain-free cereal!
One of those questions I didn't know I wanted the answer to, thanks fact boy!
that is actually a really good reason to have a fire arm in space... or rather stowed away in the landing craft.
I always skip commercial promotions on yt, but when it,s simon,s i watch it all
And of course, fire off that mini-shotgun in the spacecraft, and, well, say goodbye to your oxygen supply... :P
Yes lubricants in space was tough to develop but when they discovered Astroglide the masses rejoiced.
Goddammit, I paid for CZcams so I wouldn't be bombarded with commercials and here Simon goes with a 2 minute commercial for shitty cereal. Only saving grace is being able to skip forward.
you pay for youtube? never heard of adblocker?
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In "The Expanse", you will see plenty of projectile weapons mounted on and used by spaceships. In fact, IIRC all weapons are, they even use some rail guns, which are also projectile, and even missiles. No energy weapons there.
Well that settles it then. It has to be possible if it was on a TV show.
@@chitlitlah I like your vibe, stranger
@@chitlitlah Oh wow, aren't you just the life of the party. My comments was clearly in response to the intro where Simon says how sci fi movies are always using lazers. There are shows and movies which are more realistic and grounded. For another example, Firefly also used predominantly kinetic weapons, where energy weapons were deemed generally less reliable.
@@mariusvanc My mistake. I forgot he said that. There's a good chance I was listening to this while driving home from work and wasn't 100% focused on everything he was saying.
I was literally just laying in bed. Wondering about this 2 days ago. You never cease to amaze
The way Simon said "YEAH!" lol
This is a most welcome edition to my day, Thank you sir.
As part of the _Almaz_ program, the Soviets also built a prototype laser handgun, ostensibly for blinding satellite sensors (or blinding enemy astronauts). It never made it to _Almaz_ though, and could only fire six shots before requiring reloading.
Also, as regards recoil, I feel I should mention the '60s Gyrojet family of firearms, that fired rocket-propelled .5 calibre rocket bullets. Very low recoil weapons, probably suitable for space marines, if they could sort out the reliability problems.
5:34 when he tried to climb back through the crapsules air lock pmsl.
There is a TP-82 on display at the Stafford air and space museum.
15 minutes in... beating around the bush is an understatement. So... has a gun been fired in space?
"Ski equipped rescue troops" - coming soon to a Call of Duty title near you
Funny he calls them "American pounds" when those are Imperial units. From England. Where he was born.
Actually, no. The Americans had their own measurement definitions separate to the British standard (the actual "imperial" units), under the American customary system. In 1893 most American measurements were redefined in terms of SI.
They adopted the international SI-based definition of the yard and pound in 1959. This is why an inch is exactly 25.4mm. A few years ago, the USGS finally replaced the last non-SI holdout, defining their foot in millimetres.
Many European countries used pounds as measurement, derived from the Roman libra.
England officially uses standard measurements.
The US program nick-named "Star Wars" in popular reference was initially called "smart rocks" and was eventually re-named "Brilliant Pebbles".
The early days of space exploration really separated the men from the boys. They did some crazy stuff just in order to survive!
In zero gravity, the recoil of a firearm works to your advantage. You don’t need to choose between “fight” or “flight”. You automatically do BOTH.
Just pointing out that they did have energy weapons in Firefly, they just weren't common. IIRC, they only showed up in two episodes.
That cosmonaut space guns is like something Q would come up with for James Bond.
Except that in the only movie where he goes to space, all space suits have lasers for some unexplained reason.
It would have been such an easy thing to just add a scene to Moonraker that just establishes that portable laser weapons are now a thing, but instead they just have laser fights in microgravity.
Just a point of interest. I'd like to see astronauts leave their guns in a secured locker of some kind. Not haphazardly strewn about the launch pad as they board the shuttle.
Haven't you seen "For All Mankind"?
Directed energy weapons had been invented in Firefly, they are just flashy laser guns, they are also notoriously unreliable and prone to malfunctions, as well as being expensive to repair, and they don't do THAT much more than regular projectile throwers, so only self absorbed gits and collectors see any value in them.
From "flashy" on, I heard this in Book's voice in my head...
And speaking of Firefly: I know Simon mentioned the show specifically in regards to the directed energy weapons but my first thought seeing the title was of Vera. Jayne said she wouldn't work in a vacuum but never said why. At that time I just assumed it was bc no oxygen meant gun powder wouldn't work. Wasn't until a couple years later I learned differently.
Glad I watched this bc I'm not knowledgeable enough to have considered lubrication breakdown & metals... But I do know enough about friction to realize this is more likely the explanation for not using her Innnnnn Spaaaaaaace!
Whew! 2 decades old mystery that does indeed cross my mind from time to time... SOLVED.
@@sujimtangerines Enclosing Vera in a space suit indicated that the writers didn't know that even propellents of our time include oxidizer. Lubrication needs would be different in a vacuum, but I presume that in an era of routine space travel that would be routinely solved, either by making adjacent surfaces self lubricating or by using non- volatile lube.
It was implied in Firefly's "Heart Of Gold" Episode that The Alliance imposed legal restrictions on the possession of laser weapons. Rance Burgess said that his moral need to protect his family outweighed those restrictions.
I see we caught Simon having his breakfast, again.
"For All Mankind" answered this question already.
its much better when Simon is a part of a thumbnail and not just a weird face in the corner
Simon looking like Scott Evil pitching that Magic Spoon🤣
Thanks for the laugh and another great video list boy🤗
The TP-82 shoulder stock is a WHAT?
"You see Ivan, when stock is of machete you learn to be shooting without recoil, so it is not much cutting."
I was littearly thinking about this yesterday. Simon, are you spying on me along with alexa? Lol!
The OG bald, British guy with a beard and glasses dropping knowledge.
Two issues that I can think of with firing a gun in space:
#1: Possible cold welding of the moving parts if no precautions are taken to prevent it.
#2: The space suits themselves would make it extremely difficult to use a firearm that wasn't at least properly adapted to mitigate some of the issues specific to the space suit. The shooting astronaut would find extremely difficult to fire and handle the controls on the firearm with his thick space suit gloves and would also likely have difficulty properly aiming the firearm because of the limited range of motion.
You could definitely engineer a solution to those problems but I take the question as "What if you took just a regular gun to space to shoot it"
Find a way to brace the gun and pull the trigger with a spanner or something
#1 it's vacuum welding not cold welding. Any oils on the firearm would prevent this issue for quite a while. The same with the trace lubricants on the ammunition.
#2. You definitely have to give some consideration to at least be able to fire the weapon if you are out the controlled environment.
In addition if in a spacesuit aiming would be problematic so a laser aiming point or similar would be needed.
Nothing particularly problematic but you definitely are moving in the right direction thinking about potential issues. 🙂
Lol idk how you do it, but you're the only creator who consistently makes the ad such that i don't skip over it :D You deserve all the subscribers you have across your channels and many more to come.
I'm calling you out on firefly not having directed energy weapons, they did and Yosaphbridge stole one of the originals.
I enjoy when he does magic spoon ads because they are generally in the beginning and I know I can skip from 2 to 11 minutes forward to the start of the video
Suggestion for a future video: why do dogs love eating/chewing on sticks?
20 minutes way to say YES. Thanks Simon!
Thanks Simon and co!
I was 10 years old when the space shuttle Enterprise was rolled out. I was highly disappointed when I learned that it wasnt equiped with a phaser bank.
FIREFLY! BROWN COATS UNITE!
The astronaut chick pepper sprayed and attempted to kidnap someone and only got ONE YEAR PROBATION?!?!? Holy shit I want that judge
Thank you for cropping the chewing. I'm sure magic spoon want you to eat it on screen, it's like nails on a chalk board for me
The TB82 sounds like a Johnny English weapon!😂🤣😂
Simon is the CZcams hustler . Think of it what you want
Mythbusters tested this very myth and found that guns that have self contained ammo (a cartridge) can in fact fire in a vacuum.
The Mariachi music constantly playing in the background gives a weird vibe to many of Simon's videos. At least it isn't bloody loud.
I really hope if a fight breaks out on the space station there are cameras rolling.
Blueberry cereal sounds amazing
I would think that disagreements on the space station are handled by people being sent to their respective corners to cool off before discussing why they were arguing. Communication in every relationship is key, especially in space.
You should also mention that the vacuum of space would be a good supressor of sound, which means the loudest weapon in a normal environment would not be heard in space. Of course for most typical movie producers in Hollywood, the sound of silent weapons being fired in space would be.. boring(??).. and not as dramatic as Harry Callahan firing his Smith & Wesson model 29 revolver.
Yes. Starwars.
I never thought I hear Simon mention Firefly, and here we are. I wonder if he's seen it hee
Next astronauts should shoot a bow and Arrow to verify the arrow of time theory! Lol
Dammit, I start this video out of curiosity and less than a minute in YOU REMIND ME I'M OUT OF CEREAL. Not cool Simon, I'll have to pick tbis back up tomorrow
As a British person I’m sure this guy is very knowledgeable about space exploration and firearms
It's really funny that people ask if firearms would work in space but never ask if rockets would work in space. It's burning propellant in both cases. Also, if a gun didn't work in space it wouldn't work on Earth either. The barrel is sealed at the moment of firing because that's how guns work. Atmospheric oxygen can't get to the powder until the bullet is already out of the barrel.
Good video overall, but missed an important point regarding the Outer Space Treaty. You got it right in the first part of the video, but wrong later when you claim that the treaty prohibits weapons in space. It doesn't. It's a common misconception. The treaty actually only prohibits weapons of mass destruction and nuclear weapons specifically. Not weapons generally.
What about cold welding impact on guns in space? Like metals in contact with each other in a vacuum will bond together - aka cold welding if you wiki it.
Interesting. I suppose the simplest solution to this is Teflon on all the metal surfaces: chamber, cartridge and bullet. Whilst this would increase the cost of the gun system it would still be cheap compared to death rays.
@@MartinWillett not bad solution there. Though projectile weapons and space are just in many ways like underwater stunguns.
A gyrojet gun doesn't have recoil. It is basically a gun that shoots rocket propelled bullets.
All cerial killers love the ad. Also I know everything I need to know about gauge from Cpt. Pickard, as he often said "En gauge!".
Yeah! Pack heat, Simon. We don't need no stinkin' ray guns. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
"Zee"? Aren't you English? Why didn't you say, "Zed"? Like any non-American English speaker ? Simon?
That's 440.9 freedom units my cereal loving friend!
That just means that a handgun would make for an excellent thruster! We need to equip our astronauts with extended mags!
How about the time the US planned to nuke the moon? I think that’d make a great video lol
How about using the internet to figure out it's been done? To death.
There is a scene from Moontrap (1989) that comes to mind!
They landed the orbital module and built a wooden cabin for a sleepover. Russia badass. 😂
HEY! In the morning you should eat like a King, at lunch time eat like prince, at dinner eat like a pauper. Works for meh. Don't forget TEA time meh son!
So what kind of attificial sweetener is in that cereal-ish stuff?
Yes... the word 'cereal' implies cereal grains... without which I'm unsure what it should be technically called - 'mush' perhaps??
@13:00 "fears of being fired due to poor work performance" sounds super suspicious if you ask me.
Anyone else think it's funny that Simon started the video with the opening line from Star Trek while showing a picture from Star Wars? I think we should make Simon watch Star Wars just so he can tell the two apart and avoid making such a glaring error again. 😃
Built a 'Crude Log Cabin' ?? What did they have dropped, 2 metric Tons of Logs, some electric tools and 200km of Extension Cord?