Support Guide - Mid/Late Game Macro (Win conditions, Objectives, Warding,) - League of Legends

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 7. 06. 2024
  • Challenger support explains how to play the Mid/Late Game. In this Guide, I go over how to identify your win conditions as support. The two main points are playing around your most fed player and objectives. I go over different scenarios on how to play out Dragons, Heralds, and Barons as well as sieging/defending towers while considering waves and Ally Positioning for Season 13 League of Legends.
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    0:16 Support Mid/Late Macro Chart
    0:36 Playing Around Most Fed Player
    1:37 Example of identifying and playing around most fed player
    2:45 Objectives
    3:20 Playing Objectives with Advantage Example
    3:27 Playing Objective While Taking it
    3:49 Playing Objective if you Pick an Enemy
    4:25 Playing Objective with Disadvantage
    4:36 Example of Advantage/Disadvantage
    5:06 Expendable Objectives
    5:37 What to do when Giving up Objective
    6:07 Example of Setting up Other Side of Map
    6:30 How to Enter Jungle Blind
    7:03 Example of How to Enter Jungle Blind
    7:58 Sieging/Defending Explanation
    8:16 Examples of Sieging Wards
    9:02 Explanation of Defending
    9:15 Example of Sieging/Defending
    9:25 Tying it Together
    9:59 Conclusion
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Komentáƙe • 56

  • @MisterNightfish
    @MisterNightfish Pƙed rokem +153

    I've been doing the "play around most fed player" quite a bit and my ADC almost always takes it personally. My guy. You flashed into the enemy tower on level 2 and you are 0/5/1 despite my best efforts. It's time for me to let you go.

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Pƙed rokem +39

      Even in Challenger, you will still gets ADCs that cry all game. it doesnt get any better in high elo 😭

    • @MisterNightfish
      @MisterNightfish Pƙed rokem +11

      @@ShoDesu Yea, I've seen that on streams :D In all honesty, I sometimes have the impression that people in challenger have less fun with the game than people in mid-range MMR.

    • @dzigayu4944
      @dzigayu4944 Pƙed rokem +8

      If your adc says some dumbass thing instantly full mute them, you have you have to realize most ADCs run on a "I'm the protagonist, I must 1v9 carry" mentality and crumble the second thing doesn't go as they want, and will blame the closest thing for all of their mistakes.

    • @TheKittyClink
      @TheKittyClink Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      Those players are bad and won't ever climb you ignore them and leave them in the dust. That's how I got to master playing supp among other things ofc but ADC players are either chill or complete man children lol either way I sign up for ranked for LP not tp impress some baddie :)

  • @danielf2651
    @danielf2651 Pƙed rokem +43

    Great vid, please make more. These in depth vids on support concepts are so good, most don't go beyond they basics since those apply to the widest audience.

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Pƙed rokem +5

      Really glad you enjoyed it and will do. My plan for these type of videos is to cover a lot of fundamentals with a mix of basic and advanced concepts!

  • @teka3508
    @teka3508 Pƙed rokem +11

    im always lost at a point in the game where i dont know what to do.
    Tanks you very much i was loooking for a video like this this is very clear the best guide so far

  • @manuelmanolo7099
    @manuelmanolo7099 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +3

    Some things I knew and other things I knew instinctively but there is a special value in having it all layed out in front of you. Thank you!

  • @yensiivevop
    @yensiivevop Pƙed rokem +8

    Great job bro, I truly was struggling to understand why I would always loose mid/late even though I was far ahead, accessing the wincon is a game changer, seriously. Welll done.

  • @kimjiwonisagod2331
    @kimjiwonisagod2331 Pƙed rokem +1

    great video sho please continue fully supporting you

  • @MrBaf84
    @MrBaf84 Pƙed rokem +1

    This helps a lot for support players, keep up good work

  • @CoolDudeWithGlasses93
    @CoolDudeWithGlasses93 Pƙed rokem +7

    I thought I knew the game, but these couple videos proved me wrong. There is so much information I need to memorize and I cannot wait to apply them in my future games. Thank you for this. Subscribed !

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Pƙed rokem +1

      Glad you learned from them! Good luck in your games! 😄

  • @liamdc1227
    @liamdc1227 Pƙed rokem +1

    thanks for the guide, really comprehensible even for low elo players!

  • @footballcrafters
    @footballcrafters Pƙed 2 dny

    Great video! Keep on going brother!

  • @anaxagoras9812
    @anaxagoras9812 Pƙed rokem

    Good guide. I'm an ADC player but you always learn from these videos. :)

  • @Aureosol
    @Aureosol Pƙed rokem +1

    nice video, thanks for the information

  • @GojuMusic
    @GojuMusic Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +2

    I don't normally comment on league videos ever, but I have to say your content is so amazingly tangible and easy to follow. I peak Diamond 1 on both ADC and Support and I am just realizing how much of the fundamentals I am not paying enough attention to or just forget about because they're not habitual yet. Thanks for making these guides!

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +1

      Thank you for such kind words 😭😭

  • @seniorazer5249
    @seniorazer5249 Pƙed 18 dny

    big thanks for the mid/Late macro guide! i already knew how to play in lane/early, but always struggled to know how to play outside of lane D: hopefully im gonna climb more now :)

  • @lsvbetmachineRU
    @lsvbetmachineRU Pƙed rokem

    Great video, thanks

  • @pk.9436
    @pk.9436 Pƙed rokem

    great guide!

  • @MegaGaga99
    @MegaGaga99 Pƙed rokem +1

    Good video, keep going like this :)

  • @XDXDXDXDHAHAHAHAHHAXDXDXDXDXD

    really well put together video with a lot of information +sub

  • @MrAwesomePersonality
    @MrAwesomePersonality Pƙed rokem +2

    I haven’t played league in 5 years, maybe longer. I was also a jungled. These vids are all well made I almost even tried to play again(Lol almost).
    Hope to see you grow crazy

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Pƙed rokem

      Thank you!! One of these videos will get ya 😛

  • @kristinl.7063
    @kristinl.7063 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    Awesome stuff

  • @tavmata
    @tavmata Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    TOP TIER CONTENT

  • @Julian-7X
    @Julian-7X Pƙed rokem

    very good!

  • @Zoutarah37
    @Zoutarah37 Pƙed rokem +3

    Hey Sho, thank you so much for your guides! I’m a mid-gold support main and with your guides I’ve found out just how bad at macro I am. It’s inspired me to get better to say the least, and after trying some of your tactics I already see a huge difference in my games. My only question at this point, is what to do in the situation where I’m falling behind on xp? I realize now that I’m supposed to live in the jungle during group downtime, and while everyone else is farming for gold and xp, I’m starting to fall behind 2-5 levels. I understand solo laners are supposed to be ahead, but with the enemy support being 2 levels above me I really feel like I should be surviving better especially if I’m building tanky on my champions.
    Again, thank you so much for your content. I really appreciate it. ❀

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Pƙed rokem +2

      Hi Zoutarah! Happy to hear that you are enjoying the videos :)! Support is a role where it is okay to fall behind EXP wise because your ADC will be soaking in the EXP you are "missing." As long as your team is getting EXP/Gold from all the lanes and the jungle, you will be cumulatively matching the enemy team, so its okay that you are behind the enemy support if your ADC is ahead. That being said, there is definitely a balance. I dont think you should ever be behind 3+ levels of the enemy support at any point of the game. (I think 2 levels is fine when your team is behind and the enemy gets a lot of of objectives). It's a little hard for me to know what you are doing wrong because I don't have a vod from your game, but I think you need to hover in EXP range for whichever lane you are trying to set up a play for.

  • @psychdelicpurple621
    @psychdelicpurple621 Pƙed rokem +2

    good video again

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Pƙed rokem +1

      HUGE!! CONGRATS ON MASTERS!!

  • @majus9324
    @majus9324 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

    hey desu, great compact video about macro. its a good reminder. while i am aware of most of the things i struggle a bit by constantly remind me of them ingame. i tend to autopilot from time to time. while its good to know these things i struggle alot with setting up vision or get plays done from behind, because i dont know how to play from behind if there is noone in my team thats fed or ahead. any tips? or is it just lost or just waiting for enemies to fail palys? or is it crossmapping as much as i can? thx alot for your videos

  • @judemaij5316
    @judemaij5316 Pƙed rokem +1

    YO LMAO, I LOVE IT

  • @Tristan-bi3ee
    @Tristan-bi3ee Pƙed rokem +1

    Great Video would love to see more annie commentarys

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Pƙed rokem

      thank you! Unfortunately, not doing anymore Annie commentaries :(. I usually do one commentary for a champion thats super meta. If you enjoy these type of commentaries you can check out my stream/twitch vods!

  • @guillermovalenzuela5962
    @guillermovalenzuela5962 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    Hi! I've been watching all of these, super educational!
    I have a question; would you say now as supports we should roam to help with grubs? How to know if jungler will be there to contest it too, if your adc can manage with you being so far away, if you should go on both instances of grubs, one or none...

  • @_Creaux
    @_Creaux Pƙed rokem +2

    🐐

  • @nps1024
    @nps1024 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    So... I've already been doing all this stuff... Why are my games so random then (whether I win or lose them)?

  • @deepwaters6151
    @deepwaters6151 Pƙed rokem +1

    good bideo :D

  • @user-wr7hd2tp9l
    @user-wr7hd2tp9l Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    Also i think the guides for adcs should contain a step by step self ticket instruction so i dont have to elaborate on how my adc gave up a 6k gold lead at 15mn with no objective up.

  • @JJDEsq.
    @JJDEsq. Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +3

    Freakishly high quality video...not enough views.

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

      Thank you!! Felt like a professor on this video đŸ‘šâ€đŸ«

  • @reachnotclimb
    @reachnotclimb Pƙed rokem +1

    YO

  • @user-wr7hd2tp9l
    @user-wr7hd2tp9l Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    Guys one of the reason adcs act like this is because they have to deal with a huge amount of autofills and they are not able to trust and play with actual supports. E g. O roam topside after we crushed 2 waves got flash top , herald mid tower , and the adc greed 3 cs and got dove and then left the game

  • @Link_240
    @Link_240 Pƙed rokem +2

    just one thing, if you have to explain what a 50/50 is, then calling a control ward something it hasnt been called in like...7 years doesnt help. just my opinion.

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Pƙed rokem +1

      TBH, I totally forgot its called a control ward and not a pink. thats my bad haha

    • @MisterNightfish
      @MisterNightfish Pƙed rokem +1

      @@ShoDesu To be fair, everyone calls them pink wards all the time, so I see nothing wrong with it. I only came back to league a few months ago, after about 10 years, and I've heard more people say "pink ward" than I have heard "control ward".

    • @Link_240
      @Link_240 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@ShoDesu its natural lol. but for newer people it might be confusing