Season 14 Support Guide - Best wards for lane, Void Grub rotation, Vision tips & tricks

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  • čas přidán 23. 06. 2024
  • Here is my season 14 support guide that covers World Atlas Optimization, Best wards for lane, when to ward, void grub rotations, and vision tips and tricks. It is a follow up to my Early/mid/late macro guide series where I cover support macro.
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    0:16 Topics
    0:35 World Atlas optimization
    2:20 Best places to ward blue side
    3:21 Best places to ward red side
    3:34 Example 1
    4:04 Example 2
    4:32 When to ward
    4:49 Void Grub Rotations
    7:12 Vision tips and tricks
    8:32 Conclusion
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Komentáře • 65

  • @ADDikt8Gaming
    @ADDikt8Gaming Před 3 měsíci +113

    I'm still using my stack on cannon. I don't think a Challenger player understands how often ADCs go -1 and lose out on 60-75g.
    In fact, that might be the only cannon they get the entire game 😂

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Před 3 měsíci +29

      ACTUALLY TRUE

    • @Zwodo
      @Zwodo Před 3 měsíci +6

      Can confirm, I love a support who secures cannons for me 😂

    • @user-lj9ik3pw6g
      @user-lj9ik3pw6g Před 3 měsíci +3

      as an economist i do approve

    • @MrBenigi
      @MrBenigi Před 2 měsíci

      Good point

  • @timh9541
    @timh9541 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Thank you for this amazing guide! Especially the void rotation and answer to enemy rotation, aswell as the "enemy vision perspective" helped alot. Greetings from a D1 Janna main. :)

  • @JournalofJoseph
    @JournalofJoseph Před 3 měsíci +1

    I learned a lot from this video, thank you!

  • @denyyyX
    @denyyyX Před 3 měsíci +3

    Nice vid. That void crub rotation was 'the exactly point' ive been struggling with. Helped a lot. Ty

  • @ToyTap
    @ToyTap Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thanks, clear and concise. :)

  • @Ludek293
    @Ludek293 Před měsícem

    I just discovered this video and felt like its gonna be some useless general tips. But as a diamond support I found a lot of informations very useful. Thank you :)

  • @guillermovalenzuela5962
    @guillermovalenzuela5962 Před 3 měsíci

    Great video! Thank you so much.

  • @regularbeans
    @regularbeans Před 3 měsíci

    Subbed for this vid. Thanks man

  • @Akitechts
    @Akitechts Před 3 měsíci

    Great guide!!!

  • @jerichoarroyo4288
    @jerichoarroyo4288 Před 3 měsíci

    very educational. i havent played in a while and this is a good start! sub and liked!

  • @rookedlol4318
    @rookedlol4318 Před 3 měsíci

    WOWOW GREAT GUIDE! SUGOI!

  • @luckyblackat
    @luckyblackat Před 3 měsíci +1

    by far the best channel for support knowledge, I peaked master 600 lp last season and this one I just hit masters again, I was trash talked a ton and was struggling to figure ways to do better, your channel helped a lot to review my own gameplay and apply some concepts on myself, I appreciate it a ton!

  • @naju.m
    @naju.m Před 3 měsíci

    o melhor que temos

  • @Lucas-ee5kx
    @Lucas-ee5kx Před 3 měsíci

    Based Desu

  • @GoldenGlobeRS
    @GoldenGlobeRS Před 2 měsíci +1

    5:06 All chat dominance

  • @FrameWinnerTennis
    @FrameWinnerTennis Před 3 měsíci +1

    One of the best content creators in the game right now. Thank you for this guide. Love your insight.

  • @marcolevano9736
    @marcolevano9736 Před 3 měsíci +1

    thanks god
    Nice vid

  • @Cuzinits
    @Cuzinits Před 3 měsíci +46

    ADC being so weak right now has completely changed the role. I feel more like a second jungle most games, and have to play like one to win. Can't reliably get your ADC far enough ahead to take over a game when they get one shot by AP supports with one item, and don't stand a chance against any top/mid/jung with any sort of lead or proper itemization. Even most tank supports seem to outscale ADC's. On top of that I play a lot of engage heavy supports that historically could take over games with a lead generated early. It's frustrating that most of the meta "ADC" picks are scaling AP champs (Smolder, Seraphine, etc) because it has made most of my picks and play styles irrelevant in lane.

    • @iseeyou695
      @iseeyou695 Před 3 měsíci +2

      What do you mean? You act like adcs are completely useless. Yet if no one focuses the enemy adc, they can still wipe your whole team if they got a lead.
      Also, if your adc is ahead and you roam he will still beat the enemy adc and create pressure.
      You play engage supps. So you can still get your adc a lead and roam. The enemy adc will need help which creates numbers advantages elsewhere on the map if you move and the enemy supp doesn't.

    • @KOSPhemBoy
      @KOSPhemBoy Před 3 měsíci +3

      The fella who replied to you, is actually speaking facts. If you in theory are getting you’re adc even a 300-400g lead. If you utilize roam timers properly, in theory you should never lose the first 20 minutes of the game. Ofc there are exceptions and variables its league, every game is different but i play rakan get my adc 1-2 kills, or zone enemy adc from exp/gold then once i hit 6 i perma leave lane and give us numbers advantage. If enemy support matches its turbo good for MY adc considering theyre anywhere from 300-900g ahead from the advantages ive created thus being able to easily 1v1 enemy adc if played correctly. BUT you are right in saying that support role feels like a secondary jungle role because IT IS, our job as supports is to provide good vision, engage WINNING fights and to protect our carries. Now jungle doesnt always want to do these exact things but these are just merely examples

    • @friedchicken8440
      @friedchicken8440 Před měsícem +1

      Support role was always just the intro to jungle

    • @Kat_Ellycia
      @Kat_Ellycia Před měsícem +1

      ​@friedchicken8440 Lol, I have to agree. Picked up the support role as my main, and only felt at home with my secondary being jungle later. We definitely like having the agency.

  • @RTB1400
    @RTB1400 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Absolute banger of a video. Might I suggest placing the clickable thumbnails _not_ on the left side of the screen during the last part of the video during a nugget of wisdom? This only matters because you dropped some super useful advice about precise warding in bushes for better vision, and it went by so fast I tried to rewind on mobile by tapping and started another video accidentally 😅 kind of a mobile only problem since the draggable bar is tiny and fingers are large. Hopefully YT improves the [drag finger for ff/rewind] functionality.
    Looking forward to more great content!

  • @one-77
    @one-77 Před 20 dny

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @SayOlee
    @SayOlee Před 3 měsíci

    I also roam on grubs if i know its going to be a 1vs1 of junglers. Then we can kill jungle, take grubs and get his top side jg too. But you need jg pathing experience to notice that specific scenario

  • @kobedunkz2098
    @kobedunkz2098 Před 11 dny

    How do you know the fog of war distance the enemy sees? Genuine question

  • @Mipso96
    @Mipso96 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wowie! Thank you for explaining the support item mechanic, they really made the supp items more complex than what it was before all the changes 😮. Also the editing is soooooo clean 🥳 :Shodesupop:

  • @ezpac
    @ezpac Před 3 měsíci

    the value this video has is absurd. you cooked hard here sho🙏

  • @CloudTears
    @CloudTears Před 3 dny

    How do I handle the Emerald+ toxicitiy from teammates, just /mute all?

  • @sonyeolovessweaters
    @sonyeolovessweaters Před 2 měsíci

    I'm back on league after 8 years lmao. Watching guides to help me get back on track 😂

  • @BadAtNami
    @BadAtNami Před 3 měsíci

    Ok but what about the importance of building ap on nami

  • @farisilmih.496
    @farisilmih.496 Před 3 měsíci +1

    How can you zoom out the camera like that? Using third-party application?

  • @Riako
    @Riako Před 3 měsíci +1

    Question, these tips and tricks help if you're already in a higher elo, like if you're a Diamond trying to get to Master, or a Master trying to break through to Grandmaster, but will they help if you're in the low elo?

    • @thefirstspark6896
      @thefirstspark6896 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Generaly yes. But, your teammates will be a lot less reliable. For example, you leave botlane to roam mid at an otherwise good time, but your adc still dies because he does not know how to play around a bouncing wave. To counteract your teamates lack of awareness and knowledge it often helps to ping and write them all your intentions. Coming back to our example of roaming, you could ping that you roam mid and ping your adc to stay around your tower

    • @unprofessionaltrader6743
      @unprofessionaltrader6743 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Roaming in low elo is a coinflip so you better be sure it’s the right play or you can carry because of the roams

  • @foxwhite2285
    @foxwhite2285 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You cooked and we eating. Ty so much for this guide really need to know how to ward this season...

  • @zangyang4533
    @zangyang4533 Před 26 dny

    But dose these tip work on irons 🧐

  • @WhenYouGoMadd
    @WhenYouGoMadd Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think rotating to Void Grubs on Support and leaving your Bottom player alone is terrible. And should only ever be done in super niche scenarios.

    • @Merikat07
      @Merikat07 Před 17 dny

      You should watch any pro game or challenger stream, there’s always a 4v4 for grubs with the adcs alone in bot or mid

  • @EspeonjaGlaceonFilms
    @EspeonjaGlaceonFilms Před 3 měsíci

    Is it possible to climb from really low ranks with only enchanters?

    • @Pissandra_0.0
      @Pissandra_0.0 Před 3 měsíci

      I climbed from bronze to silver after being hardstuck with only renata. She is the only enchanter that can carry. But its possible, ofc you will have some issues bc you relay on your team but janna and renata are super strong and can setup plays and are gamechanging

    • @coardaoc1226
      @coardaoc1226 Před 2 měsíci

      u litterly can climb with every role or champ to master+...only your skill deciding

  • @JesseTheGameDev
    @JesseTheGameDev Před 3 měsíci

    Every time I don't rotate to grubs, the enemy support roams instead, and my team ints a triple kill. Meanwhile, we just get some cs bot.
    And that dive to "punish" Ezreal only worked because Fiddle helped you and your adc... Right?

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Před 3 měsíci

      We could have dove ez without fiddle or zoned him off the wave

  • @TheXxsuperxxchickxx
    @TheXxsuperxxchickxx Před 3 měsíci

    fine i will try ranked again :/

  • @CRYOgenicideVT
    @CRYOgenicideVT Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great guide! So helpful! Thank you so much Sho!
    (Now give me my heart on my comment)

  • @sasquatchwasarrested
    @sasquatchwasarrested Před 3 měsíci

    This got me to diamond from plat, my mom finally told me shes proud of me, thank you so much

  • @BaraPersson
    @BaraPersson Před 3 měsíci

    top 3 supports for soloQ?

  • @Texansfan59
    @Texansfan59 Před 28 dny

    I always use my atlas stacks to secure cannons lol dont always trust my adcs to get it

  • @lnvern
    @lnvern Před 3 měsíci +1

    peeponotes

  • @Beardsnack
    @Beardsnack Před měsícem

    Grubs as an objective has very little value, but the team fights that it attracts are worth. I go when I think there is gonna be a fight. Any given point in the game is difficult to predict where the enemy jgl is going to be, but you can be sure that eventually they will go for objectives and their camps. This means warding and watching their camps and objective timers. If an objective is coming, Im there early and preparing for ambushing enemy jgler or support.

  • @Test-iv4pm
    @Test-iv4pm Před 3 měsíci

    "play around bot and we win" in all chat? XD

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Před 3 měsíci

      yeah that was myb LMAO

  • @ihavecrabs56
    @ihavecrabs56 Před 29 dny

    a major issue with rotating to grubs is that my junglers almost never prioritize capturing them when they spawn. they would much rather gank, farm, do literally anything else it seems. ive rotated before they spawn, help mid/top get lane prio and while i wait mid/top for my jungler, they never seem to come. then im the one flamed even though i set up lanes and its my jungler who doesnt understand objective spawn times. its literally right there if u look at the minimap.
    i dont really get why its so looked down upon for supports to spend more time mid than bot. bot lane can get solo exp so why do mid laners always cry about sharing exp? if im bot with my partner, u dont hear me crying about having to share exp with them lol. i would love to get solo exp. besdies, if im mid, then that means the bot laner is getting solo exp. so it evens out anyways.
    there are also games where im support and i end up having over 100 cs because my team REFUSES to catch lanes, leaving me to farm. if i wasnt there to farm the lanes midgame, they would go to waste under a turret. yes. over 100 cs on support. its ridiculous! how do carries miss so many waves??
    at this point, im not sure if i should swap to another role that can properly make use of all the farm i seem to gather? i just hate early laning phase. sooo boring. i also like the enchanter playstyle.
    imo an adc isnt even an enchanters best pairing. i would much prefer if i could lane with a tank or bruiser. enchanters are squishy and need a front liner to peel for them. of course come 5v5, champs like lulu and janna offer invaluable peel for ranged champs but in lane having a front liner would grant somebody like a soraka or sona much more protection from ganks/engagement.
    imo riot needs to add voice lines for when neutral objectives spawn. because then maybe players will learn that when they hear that voice line, they need to push, go b, tp, do whatever it is they need to do to make sure they either secure the obj or stall for a tower.

  • @WhenYouGoMadd
    @WhenYouGoMadd Před 3 měsíci +1

    As a Support your job is very simple. You are to Support whoever is playing the Bottom position. So rather than watching a "Support Guide". Supports should be watching guides for who they are Supporting, so that they can learn to more effectively help their Bottom player.

    • @ShoDesu
      @ShoDesu  Před 3 měsíci +3

      wrong

    • @jasonmoss-qk8oh
      @jasonmoss-qk8oh Před 3 měsíci +2

      uninstall

    • @coardaoc1226
      @coardaoc1226 Před 2 měsíci +2

      totally wrong. u dont invest time and resources into an adc if he is not the the win condition. and more often then not the adc dont know how to autoattack propperly and even deal les dps then a ench supp. you are the TEAM supp not adc supp

  • @FuckBrandedFusion
    @FuckBrandedFusion Před 3 měsíci +4

    This is a pretty nice guide but I think you also should have talked about edge cases where some supports dont buy the support item immediately and get it on the first base instead

    • @zacharyjackson1829
      @zacharyjackson1829 Před 3 měsíci +1

      i do this all the time but only because i get distracted and forgot to buy because I'm a dum8a$$ lol