That tree crew does seem shady but I’ve been doing tree work since I was a teenager and on numerous occasions I have done $8,000-$10,000 jobs before. People don’t always understand what goes into what we do.
@@bigeric8334 Prices are often inversely proportional to the number of pieces you want your house or other structures to be in at the end of the job. Meaning, less damage = more money. If you have any doubt that there is actual skill involve, look up idiots with chainsaws to see what can happen when people don't have enough understanding of the dynamics at play in tree work.
While stump grinding is usually separate, those who are unfamiliar with having tree work done may assume its part of the "tree removal". A good company will make sure the customer understands this rather than assuming it is known.
If you dont like the price go buy your own boom truck and equipment and try not to die on the job and then do it yourself. What is wrong with you people, i dont know what the company was but no one is forcing you to hire them. Whoever thinks that cutting trees down is a safe and easy job is a straight up ignorant including the news production giving the poor business owner a bad name. Shame on you
Exactly I was confused the whole time like those trees looked big and it wasn't a good distance from the house. On top of that It was two trees. I think she expected to get them cut down for a few hundred a piece. Like Yu making more at your desk job than the owner of the landscaping company at the prices they want.
One of the most dangerous jobs in the world , i bet these guys took the trees down with no property damage at all . Fuck the news and fuck everyone else that doesn't know the tree game.
From the info given it's hard to say. Them having bad reviews, out of town, and non responsive. I don't think y'all know any more about the legitimacy of the company than the news anchor. From my understanding they sound like cons, especially driving the lady to the bank. That sounds almost like extortion to me.
It feels less like she accepted the quote and had a problem with it and more like she accepted the quote then her family had a problem with it. Honestly, depending on the size of the trees, hazards, etc., 8k is NOT unreasonable for insured professionals that won't wreck your house or get someone injured/killed in the process of taking down the tree. Tree removal is not something to cheap out on. Pay professionals what they're worth. And stump grinding is generally quoted separately.
The news should have told people to do it themselves or hire someone who is uninsured to do it cheaper and then you'll really have a reason to call the cops!
Police are not in the tree trimming business therefore they have no idea what it takes to remove a tree or the overhead costs involved. The insurance alone for this kind of work is very expensive. When you factor in the cost of workers comp, liability insurance, fuel, man hours,taxes,dumping fees,wear and tear on the machinery so on and so on. Honestly unless you are in the business you have no idea what it takes to do the job or run a business. Personally I see no problem with the price. Honestly if she had a problem with the price she should not have hired them instead of waiting until the work was done to complain about it. The only thing I see a problem with is the fact they drove her to the bank to get cash. Guaranteed they did not pay taxes on that money.
And I get yelled at charging people $1000 for 25 ft trees. 4K a piece for trees that can kill you or destroy your house if it goes wrong. That's a good deal. Probably used $100k in equipment to get that done.
@@jacobcarter5923 - Doubtful. Sure, plenty of companies have easily a million dollars in equipment, but it doesn't all end up on every job....and since the "tree trimming" footage supplied in this news report likely has no connection at all to the case at hand, it's hard to know how big of a job this was.. Sometimes we do jobs for $8,000 when they should gave been $10,000 and sometimes for $8,000 when they should have been only $6,000......🤷🏻♂️
@@kalebdeese3192 - I know. Things are getting rough out here. Dumping costs have gone up 250% in New Jersey in the last 3 years. Forget about fuel, and the cost of parts/maintenance, and the fact that employees are stretched for money more than ever, just to survive.... People are paying less now than ever for tree removals, and we have a hard time staying afloat. Thanks, Brandon! And all the illegal, uninsurable/uninsured labor flooding in at record pace surejs helping, too!!
@@danieldrews9180 you must own a tree business. Nope.. probably some welfare bum who's got a problem with a hard working man who risks his life doing one of the most dangerous jobs in the world paying taxes to pay for your welfare ass 🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽
I got 9k for a tree once. Also I worked as a Contract Climber on a Double Oak in Nashville TN that went for 12k. I one time used a crane and pulled three trees off of a house after a storm for 23k it took about 4 hours. Tree work is expensive if you want to hire a talented tree removal expert with the proper equipment, licenses, and insurance to get the job done.
$8k isn’t that bad for two large trees. Tree workers risk their lives to climb, trim and remove your trees. Pay them what they ask or find a new company, but I doubt a ‘professional, quality’ company would charge less then that.
The lady could have went with someone else. I have charged 4g for one tree, yesterday i charged $1,300 to put 2 large dead beech trees about 90ft tall on the ground with no cleanup or anything. This news channel should be ashamed
8k was probably right on the money, especially in a heavy residential area with traffic, pedestrians, serive drops, com lines, yard ornaments etc. Not to mention 1 000's of dollars in rigging equipment, because tree gear is insanely expensive. Add the cost of owning and operating large equipment that requires cdl's to probably drive, insurance, dot inspections, fuel, business insurance, do I need to go on? All of that is a huge overhead cost, and alot of people forget that they are also paying for the knowledge and know how of the crew to safely remove the trees. Knowledge and skills that most likely took years to develop. Just my 2 cents
That last guy is so wrong. Just because a tree looks healthy doesn't mean it shouldn't be cut down. A lot of the time people let the smaller trees that aren't a big deal now grow until they become a big deal. Then they wonder why the price is a big deal as well.
people don't realize that the insurance is outrageous. I pay 1000 toward general liability plus 30 cent on every doller for workers comp. so if I hire 2 guys at 15 an HR. that 60 frand a year in payroll. plus I pay 3 grand more for
I closed my insurance on my tree business in 2019, but for a few years prior to that, I was paying a total of almost $47,000 a year between all the various insurances. That was with the absolute minimum for worker's comp being $8,600....then there's the business insurance, the inland marine, the vehicular, the theft....🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
How big the trees were? How complicated was to remove them? Front yard? Backyard? That's the main question. That's a fair bid for a big tree complex tree. Heavy equipment is expensive and high quality workers deserve good pay as well.
As someone who owns their own tree service. It's not hard to get three prices in an industry where estimates are free. And, one giant can cost over that depending on variable factors.
Yeah, 20 years ago, when my business was quite small, I calculated that given the amount of work days in a year that can be counted upon....aside from holidays, injury days, weather days....I would need to make $600 a day, just to cover my costs. That's ACTUAL overhead, not including payroll! That's overhead, including insurances and licensing, storage space costs, fuel, maintenance/repairs, consumables (saw chain, files, ropes, etc.)....not including my own living expenses or those of employees. In other words, lunch and drinks are not overhead, 😂. As payroll is officially supposedly "paying for itself", that's not overhead either. So that's needing to do $600 a day, just to start trying to pay my rent, and personal expenses...and I was a very small company. Imagine guys that I work with, who have 6 or 8 times the expenses I had.....
She could've taken anyone else's bid...but in her defense. They should've told her they wouldn't accept personal checks. Some people just don't understand that $8,000 isn't acceptable from a personal account.
Weve been in business for years , and done many $10,000 jobs ,that company does seem a bit shady , however, people dont know the real part when it comes to our tree business, when we show up, we bring our experience, $500k worth of equipment, and insurance, most of all , our hard worked labor , we charge for what we know what to do , especially with everything gone up
Lol how much do you charge to sit and report bullshit in a air conditioned room? Tree work is no joke. Idk why they wouldn’t take a check but hey it’s their business
Seems reasonable price, maybe on the higher side but difficult to say. There are so ma y factors that go into pricing these types of jobs (tree type, location, equipment, man hours, etc). The "took her to the bank to get cash" was very fishy, they are trying to avoid taxes while charging market prices. Trying to have their cake and eat it too.
I can’t believe this media hit piece on a private company. She didn’t have to accept the bid, and $8,000 could be quite reasonable depending on the trees and other circumstances.
I work for Bartlett Tree Experts. Never pay money before a job is done to a small tree company... Never ever do it.... You are likely screwing yourself... But.... This seems about right. This was not a bad deal. People don't understand how much money goes into this...
I own a small tree service it doesn't matter if ur a big tree service or small tree service the point is scumbags are scumbags big and small and ruin it for honest companies like mine and yours
2024. Called a tree service to see about 3 trees. Drop and go. No cleanup, no disposal. They wanted $1000. I did it myself in 2 hours. Don't care what your costs are, unless you're keeping me off death row, i ain't paying $500/hr.
But its just a tree?!? 🤷♂️🤦♂️ (everyone around says) As an arborist I can tell you that it is not easy to bring down 2 huge trees safely otherwise you wouldn't need to hire a crew to do it.
This is a bullshit post a boom truck is over 100 grand a large saw is around 3 grand labour and insurance fule and upkeep you don't like the price go look for some weekend warriors that may or may not drop the tree on your home and take off and leave you with a potentially wrote off house or worse some one hurt on your property
That's how we get paid front end price ....and back end based on contractual agreement!Now over charging ...thats something between them and their customer...she could have said no it's to much!
Just did a $9,000 removal in 4.5 hours and $11,000 in 7 hours no crane and no skid. Customers were happy. What kind of person agrees to pay a price and then complains about it? And then people give their own dumb opinion when they don’t do tree work on a daily basis.
@Justin Archuleta, HI Justin. Can you describe the trees roughly in height, trunk diameter and the type of trees they were if you don't mind? Just a reference for myself... Thanks man, have a good one!
I had a climber from California who did big trees he saw a 30k removal done a friend also sold one at a top company in San Fran for $30k one tree they completed 5-6 hours
It's a free market--if she didn't like the quote price or hourly rate, she could hire someone else, attempt to do dangerously do it herself, or skip it. Considering that a new chipper is about $70,000, a bucket truck is $150,000 and insurance, including worker's comp is astronomically expensive (along with a real risk of death or paralysis ) most legit companies have to charge at least $100 per man hour. 8 grand would only be 80 man hours. A five man crew would reach that time within two days. The only fishy part is their insistence to be paid cash--they might have simply distrusted the womans check, but most likely they were trying to operate under the table illegally. People shouldn't complain when that is the price they agreed on.
We have a tree service ourselves in great standing. On occasion customers pay in cash. We head to the bank and deposit it with the customers name and address attached to the cash deposit, then set aside the money out of it for the taxes on that money that need to be paid when filing too. Nothing wrong with this. Now if payment is demanded in a more aggressive manner then that is not right, and someone needs to have a more smooth collecting system in place, then so be it. But tree work is hard hard work. In todays day and age, prices are going up. I see nothing wrong with this common practice. If you have any concerns I would check on insurance and make sure you get a copy directly from the insurance company proving they carry it. Look closely at it. I have ran into an instance one time when someone shared his insurance with me and had guys show up on the jobsite a sub and he did not actually have workmens comp insurance. My question is when the guy falls off the roof and breaks his back if it were to happen, who will be taking care of who here. These questions are real and highly important. I also would make sure a firm contract is in place and signed before starting the work.
8k is not high at all. Do you understand that we risk our lives every day to do this job. I won't get in a tree for anything less than 3k some trees can go 10k and up just for one... Driving to the bank ya that's wrong but understand the work is not cheap...
How is stump grinding so expensive you don't even have to do any work all you do is stand there with a machine the machine does all the work stump grinding should be like $200 a stump
Ever had to replace teeth on a stump rig, how about running the head into a underground power line or water line. Or have to grind a 40×40 ft area to get all the surface roots. A giant ass stump can take a few hours to properly grind and how deep the customer wants plays into cost. Further more most customers want the excess grounds hauled away and the grind are left level. A big ass 40-50 inch diameter stump will fill up a f550 dump truck with leftover grounds.
@@hawkmusic6392 Not to mention a commercial type stump grinder is going to cost well over $20k just for entry commercial. I bought a Carlton Ox in 1999 for $15.5k
People just do not understand what it takes to run a business. They want an insured company but don't want to pay the price. Here is something to look at before you start bashing a company. Factor in the cost of workers comp, liability,man hours, fuel , dumping fees ,wear and tear on machinery. If you don't like the price then don't hire them.
Tree work is expensive, no getting around it. Why is it that everyone is a tree expert but no one questions an electrician or a mason when they hand you the bill?
More than the trees got "trimmed". Get multiple estimates AND do a web search for complaints about tree services. Any business with more than a complaint or two? Choose someone else.
Just got a quote from on of my local companies for 6k to remove 3 Massive oak trees that are 1 foor from my garage and over hanging its roof including removing the stumps and haul away of debris
I’ve billed $8000+ for one tree. Tree work is expensive especially when climbing the tree is necessary. You are paying for the danger to bodies that is involved.
Tree work requires fearless talented hard working men. Climbing and rigging certain trees down is very hard in every way. So dangerous, you saw your rope you fall. You judge the physics wrong and a log on a rope crushes you or a crane topples over. As a climber I can say that I am not an educated man but I have met few who can do this work even after training. Many ppl I know have been crushed, killed, and air lifted from the site. Tree work is a team effort multiple men working through winter snow and summer sun. Season after season. Sweating so much your eyes are blurry until you go to bed. This is a coordinated job with lots of experience and skills required. Heavy machinery, your home on the line men's lives litterly on a line. Insurance power lines. Cranes cdl trucks. License for the city for the cranes for the bucket trucks. I wish that every man who looks down on this work was instantly telaported 90 ft up and had to negative rig a top out.
The only thing wrong is having her ride to the bank to pay in cash. But she got the price before they did the work i'm sure, and that shit is hard work what do they think it would be like their lawn service bill?
$8000 for 2 trees doesn’t seem crazy. I have a single elm in my backyard and have gotten estimates from $8000-$15000. If the tree is in a weird spot or there are power lines near by it can be a difficult job.
Absolutely no way of knowing, since we didn't see the actual job in this video!!! $4,000/tree could be a very fair price for may trees, or a substantial RIP-OFF for many others.....impossible to know here.
Depends on the trees ,what's under them ,how long of drag for brush ,septic systems ,lawn sprinklers ,all kind of factors ,but when you call a tree service that brings 1million in equipment and 6 guys it's not going to be cheap ,fast yes cheap no
1 big tree over lots of stuff, maybe bad terrain can go 10grand, maybe more depending on area. 8grand for 2 isn't all that much and the news doesn't know any tree facts of condition/problems and risk. They are slandering without knowing anything really. Lady might have not intended to pay hence the me too poverty story. A tree svc can have well over a million in equipment with 200grand in ins costs per yr easily
I was confused the whole time I was watching this like those trees looked big and it wasn't a good distance from the house. On top of that It was two trees. I think she expected to get them cut down for a few hundred a piece. Like Yu making more at your desk job than the owner of the landscaping company at those prices
Yea people ...tree stumps are usually NOT. Included when giving an estimate to cut down trees. Stumps are a BATTLE in there own right . In other words tree stumps are a BIT ( H to remove . All you have to do is ask . Does this price include the stumps . Or is that an additional fee. Just ask for a price with stump removal. And without.. stump removal is t just removing a stump .. it also usually involves removal all the big roots in the immediate area. New soil brought in and new sod put down where the tree was . So there is some nuance to all of this .. best thing is just ask as many questions as you can think of . And if any tree service has a problem with you asking questions. That is your first red flag . Anymore than 1 red flag . Do not hire that tree service . The average person does not own a tree service nor work for one. So there are many questions that may need to be addressed before you move forward with whatever tree service you may be getting. Word of mouth is your best bet.. if know someone that had a good experience with a tree service and they come recommended that is usually your best bet . Don't judge a book by the cover some people think tree service that has a 10 man crew . And all kinds of fancy equipment is the best choice. That is not always true. Sometimes your best choice is 2 guys in a truck . Always make sure they have proper insurance. So if they get hurt it's not on you .
I wouldn't take a check from somebody these days. Maybe a certified cashier check from a bank, but cash would be preferable. I just spent the weekend taking down a huge walnut in my back yard. 60÷ ft tall and about 40" base. Huge to me at least. Had a buddy that had access to a 100ft bucket truck and we both have good quality saws that were capable. Spent 150$ in just fuel for the truck! I'd bet it would of been 3-4k minimum to have someone do it. No damage, other than a bar and chain! I wouldn't recommend it to just anybody. If ya don't like a price, call someone else.
This is why hate the news! I bid tree jobs ALL THE TIME and the risk to reward factors are real! Not to mention hiring workers and equipment and insurance… loading and unloading and dump fees! Don’t even get me started!!!
plp really dont understand what we do to get these trees down there's alot of experience involved with it lots of knowledge!! if you want a professional to remove it your gonna pay alot!!! us tree guys deserve it!! it's very dangerous as well. although we do make it look easy but there's alot of years involved for us to make it look easy. I love doing tree work always something different and always a challenge
That tree crew does seem shady but I’ve been doing tree work since I was a teenager and on numerous occasions I have done $8,000-$10,000 jobs before. People don’t always understand what goes into what we do.
yup
Exactly expenses like insurance and labor is expensive people don't realize tree work is dangerous.
Preach people want things for free off of others blood sweat and tears
Na you trying to rip people off it should be like 290 at most
@@bigeric8334 Prices are often inversely proportional to the number of pieces you want your house or other structures to be in at the end of the job.
Meaning, less damage = more money.
If you have any doubt that there is actual skill involve, look up idiots with chainsaws to see what can happen when people don't have enough understanding of the dynamics at play in tree work.
8k was probably pretty reasonable especially when you bring 500k in tools and a crew to work 2 full days and stump grinding is separate usually
While stump grinding is usually separate, those who are unfamiliar with having tree work done may assume its part of the "tree removal". A good company will make sure the customer understands this rather than assuming it is known.
@@nate2838 - 100% correct.
That tree service may be a joke But I am an arborist here in Indiana and $8000 for two trees is not a bad price at all!!
Just removed 2 large poplars, close to 60ft high, for $8k. Homeowner was happy 🤷🏻♂️
That's a very high price tag for 60' Poplars. Was there any unusual logistical justification? Seriously asking.
@@samuelluria4744 gotta be tight spot,over house,etc
If you dont like the price go buy your own boom truck and equipment and try not to die on the job and then do it yourself. What is wrong with you people, i dont know what the company was but no one is forcing you to hire them. Whoever thinks that cutting trees down is a safe and easy job is a straight up ignorant including the news production giving the poor business owner a bad name.
Shame on you
Exactly I was confused the whole time like those trees looked big and it wasn't a good distance from the house. On top of that It was two trees. I think she expected to get them cut down for a few hundred a piece. Like Yu making more at your desk job than the owner of the landscaping company at the prices they want.
One of the most dangerous jobs in the world , i bet these guys took the trees down with no property damage at all . Fuck the news and fuck everyone else that doesn't know the tree game.
exactly!
From the info given it's hard to say. Them having bad reviews, out of town, and non responsive. I don't think y'all know any more about the legitimacy of the company than the news anchor. From my understanding they sound like cons, especially driving the lady to the bank. That sounds almost like extortion to me.
Usually people on the news are clueless to the real world. They're just looking to grab the attention of the public for ratings.
I am glad for all the support for the tree guys. I've been in the business for 10 years and the comments said everything for me. Good job fellas
15+ here bud. Stay safe out there! 🫡
It feels less like she accepted the quote and had a problem with it and more like she accepted the quote then her family had a problem with it. Honestly, depending on the size of the trees, hazards, etc., 8k is NOT unreasonable for insured professionals that won't wreck your house or get someone injured/killed in the process of taking down the tree. Tree removal is not something to cheap out on. Pay professionals what they're worth. And stump grinding is generally quoted separately.
From the looks of it, 8K was right
No reason to think that this footage was from the case described in the report. More likely, it is stock footage.
The news should have told people to do it themselves or hire someone who is uninsured to do it cheaper and then you'll really have a reason to call the cops!
🤣🤣🤣
Police are not in the tree trimming business therefore they have no idea what it takes to remove a tree or the overhead costs involved. The insurance alone for this kind of work is very expensive. When you factor in the cost of workers comp, liability insurance, fuel, man hours,taxes,dumping fees,wear and tear on the machinery so on and so on. Honestly unless you are in the business you have no idea what it takes to do the job or run a business. Personally I see no problem with the price. Honestly if she had a problem with the price she should not have hired them instead of waiting until the work was done to complain about it. The only thing I see a problem with is the fact they drove her to the bank to get cash. Guaranteed they did not pay taxes on that money.
Exactly...
yup. How big were the trees??
This news station did a shitty job filling in key details.
Worthless "reporting", honestly.
That's actually a good bid and stump grinding is always separate. Y did she accept the bid to just bitvh later
i have given bids before from 4K-15K. People can say no. Then they can climb or rent the equipment and do it themselves.
Customers get shady, I don't trust them either. Cash on delivery
Contracts should be made and half money should be paid before hand
And I get yelled at charging people $1000 for 25 ft trees. 4K a piece for trees that can kill you or destroy your house if it goes wrong. That's a good deal. Probably used $100k in equipment to get that done.
Probably more.
Dude we have over 100’ poplars here all the time and people complain about $1200.00 per tree… well they didn’t used to but it’s 2022…
Probably used 750k worth of equipment...
@@jacobcarter5923 - Doubtful. Sure, plenty of companies have easily a million dollars in equipment, but it doesn't all end up on every job....and since the "tree trimming" footage supplied in this news report likely has no connection at all to the case at hand, it's hard to know how big of a job this was..
Sometimes we do jobs for $8,000 when they should gave been $10,000 and sometimes for $8,000 when they should have been only $6,000......🤷🏻♂️
@@kalebdeese3192 - I know. Things are getting rough out here. Dumping costs have gone up 250% in New Jersey in the last 3 years. Forget about fuel, and the cost of parts/maintenance, and the fact that employees are stretched for money more than ever, just to survive....
People are paying less now than ever for tree removals, and we have a hard time staying afloat. Thanks, Brandon!
And all the illegal, uninsurable/uninsured labor flooding in at record pace surejs helping, too!!
What's wrong with that? I gave a bid a couple of days ago for 5000$ to remove a giant tree and I wouldn't take a check either
F Lopez look at your Fuckin face, of course you did
@@danieldrews9180 you must own a tree business. Nope.. probably some welfare bum who's got a problem with a hard working man who risks his life doing one of the most dangerous jobs in the world paying taxes to pay for your welfare ass 🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽
I got 9k for a tree once. Also I worked as a Contract Climber on a Double Oak in Nashville TN that went for 12k. I one time used a crane and pulled three trees off of a house after a storm for 23k it took about 4 hours. Tree work is expensive if you want to hire a talented tree removal expert with the proper equipment, licenses, and insurance to get the job done.
$8k isn’t that bad for two large trees. Tree workers risk their lives to climb, trim and remove your trees. Pay them what they ask or find a new company, but I doubt a ‘professional, quality’ company would charge less then that.
The lady could have went with someone else. I have charged 4g for one tree, yesterday i charged $1,300 to put 2 large dead beech trees about 90ft tall on the ground with no cleanup or anything. This news channel should be ashamed
8k was probably right on the money, especially in a heavy residential area with traffic, pedestrians, serive drops, com lines, yard ornaments etc. Not to mention 1 000's of dollars in rigging equipment, because tree gear is insanely expensive. Add the cost of owning and operating large equipment that requires cdl's to probably drive, insurance, dot inspections, fuel, business insurance, do I need to go on? All of that is a huge overhead cost, and alot of people forget that they are also paying for the knowledge and know how of the crew to safely remove the trees. Knowledge and skills that most likely took years to develop. Just my 2 cents
That last guy is so wrong. Just because a tree looks healthy doesn't mean it shouldn't be cut down. A lot of the time people let the smaller trees that aren't a big deal now grow until they become a big deal. Then they wonder why the price is a big deal as well.
people don't realize that the insurance is outrageous. I pay 1000 toward general liability plus 30 cent on every doller for workers comp. so if I hire 2 guys at 15 an HR. that 60 frand a year in payroll. plus I pay 3 grand more for
I closed my insurance on my tree business in 2019, but for a few years prior to that, I was paying a total of almost $47,000 a year between all the various insurances. That was with the absolute minimum for worker's comp being $8,600....then there's the business insurance, the inland marine, the vehicular, the theft....🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
She got a quote she agreed pay the hard working man risking their lifes to cut the trees. Wow makes no since 🤦🏻♂️
How big the trees were? How complicated was to remove them? Front yard? Backyard? That's the main question. That's a fair bid for a big tree complex tree. Heavy equipment is expensive and high quality workers deserve good pay as well.
That was a reasonable price and stump grinding is always extra
As someone who owns their own tree service. It's not hard to get three prices in an industry where estimates are free. And, one giant can cost over that depending on variable factors.
I’ve quoted many tree jobs in that price range. That price range is not that unrealistic. Stump grinding as well. 🇨🇦🇺🇸
8 k is fair. try paying 100 k a month in overhead without charging 8 k a day!
you will go bankrupt.
Yeah, 20 years ago, when my business was quite small, I calculated that given the amount of work days in a year that can be counted upon....aside from holidays, injury days, weather days....I would need to make $600 a day, just to cover my costs. That's ACTUAL overhead, not including payroll!
That's overhead, including insurances and licensing, storage space costs, fuel, maintenance/repairs, consumables (saw chain, files, ropes, etc.)....not including my own living expenses or those of employees. In other words, lunch and drinks are not overhead, 😂. As payroll is officially supposedly "paying for itself", that's not overhead either.
So that's needing to do $600 a day, just to start trying to pay my rent, and personal expenses...and I was a very small company. Imagine guys that I work with, who have 6 or 8 times the expenses I had.....
8 grand can be a good price... sadly people are stupid and think tree removal should be cheap. Its the most dangerous job you can have..
The equipment I own is $1,000,000.00 , we have to do $8k a day or over
She could've taken anyone else's bid...but in her defense. They should've told her they wouldn't accept personal checks. Some people just don't understand that $8,000 isn't acceptable from a personal account.
8k sounds good . Those trees are huge
Remove the tree yourself then. Good luck
Weve been in business for years , and done many $10,000 jobs ,that company does seem
a bit shady , however, people dont know the real part when it comes to our tree business, when we show up, we bring our experience, $500k worth of equipment, and insurance, most of all , our hard worked labor , we charge for what we know what to do , especially with everything gone up
I paid $2800 for a few dead trees but had three quotes
I seriously would pay money to see a news anchor, any news anchor try to do our job.
Tonight at 11.....Breaking news......News anchor cuts tree on house costing the homeowner $125,000.
Seems to be a fair price.
Lol how much do you charge to sit and report bullshit in a air conditioned room? Tree work is no joke. Idk why they wouldn’t take a check but hey it’s their business
Seems reasonable price, maybe on the higher side but difficult to say. There are so ma y factors that go into pricing these types of jobs (tree type, location, equipment, man hours, etc). The "took her to the bank to get cash" was very fishy, they are trying to avoid taxes while charging market prices. Trying to have their cake and eat it too.
The cost of insurance....
Why did she agree to the price ?
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to throw someones reputation under the bus on national television haha
I can’t believe this media hit piece on a private company. She didn’t have to accept the bid, and $8,000 could be quite reasonable depending on the trees and other circumstances.
I work for Bartlett Tree Experts. Never pay money before a job is done to a small tree company... Never ever do it.... You are likely screwing yourself... But.... This seems about right. This was not a bad deal. People don't understand how much money goes into this...
I own a small tree service it doesn't matter if ur a big tree service or small tree service the point is scumbags are scumbags big and small and ruin it for honest companies like mine and yours
didn't they get an estimate
She didn't get a price quote up front? Big mistake.
2024. Called a tree service to see about 3 trees. Drop and go. No cleanup, no disposal. They wanted $1000. I did it myself in 2 hours. Don't care what your costs are, unless you're keeping me off death row, i ain't paying $500/hr.
Eh seems to me the news report is omitting details.
6 years as a tree guy. 8k sounds like a good deal. I wouldn't do it for that price. Most likely 10k
8k is not bad for 2 large trees. And she accepted that now she salty she has to pay
But its just a tree?!? 🤷♂️🤦♂️ (everyone around says) As an arborist I can tell you that it is not easy to bring down 2 huge trees safely otherwise you wouldn't need to hire a crew to do it.
This is a bullshit post a boom truck is over 100 grand a large saw is around 3 grand labour and insurance fule and upkeep you don't like the price go look for some weekend warriors that may or may not drop the tree on your home and take off and leave you with a potentially wrote off house or worse some one hurt on your property
That's how we get paid front end price ....and back end based on contractual agreement!Now over charging ...thats something between them and their customer...she could have said no it's to much!
Just did a $9,000 removal in 4.5 hours and $11,000 in 7 hours no crane and no skid. Customers were happy. What kind of person agrees to pay a price and then complains about it? And then people give their own dumb opinion when they don’t do tree work on a daily basis.
Where do you work? I need to move there
@@bman6065 Austin, Tx
@Justin Archuleta, HI Justin. Can you describe the trees roughly in height, trunk diameter and the type of trees they were if you don't mind? Just a reference for myself... Thanks man, have a good one!
60’ trees
I had a climber from California who did big trees he saw a 30k removal done a friend also sold one at a top company in San Fran for $30k one tree they completed 5-6 hours
It's a free market--if she didn't like the quote price or hourly rate, she could hire someone else, attempt to do dangerously do it herself, or skip it. Considering that a new chipper is about $70,000, a bucket truck is $150,000 and insurance, including worker's comp is astronomically expensive (along with a real risk of death or paralysis ) most legit companies have to charge at least $100 per man hour. 8 grand would only be 80 man hours. A five man crew would reach that time within two days. The only fishy part is their insistence to be paid cash--they might have simply distrusted the womans check, but most likely they were trying to operate under the table illegally. People shouldn't complain when that is the price they agreed on.
I would love to see that newscaster guy remove both of those trees.
What's so surprising? It's tree work. It's expensive because it's dangerous and costly.
I don't think the price was the issue it was the collection method.
We have a tree service ourselves in great standing. On occasion customers pay in cash. We head to the bank and deposit it with the customers name and address attached to the cash deposit, then set aside the money out of it for the taxes on that money that need to be paid when filing too. Nothing wrong with this. Now if payment is demanded in a more aggressive manner then that is not right, and someone needs to have a more smooth collecting system in place, then so be it. But tree work is hard hard work. In todays day and age, prices are going up. I see nothing wrong with this common practice.
If you have any concerns I would check on insurance and make sure you get a copy directly from the insurance company proving they carry it. Look closely at it. I have ran into an instance one time when someone shared his insurance with me and had guys show up on the jobsite a sub and he did not actually have workmens comp insurance. My question is when the guy falls off the roof and breaks his back if it were to happen, who will be taking care of who here. These questions are real and highly important. I also would make sure a firm contract is in place and signed before starting the work.
8k is not high at all. Do you understand that we risk our lives every day to do this job. I won't get in a tree for anything less than 3k some trees can go 10k and up just for one... Driving to the bank ya that's wrong but understand the work is not cheap...
If she payed for it, then what’s the problem exactly
That’s a normal price. What’s up with the media
How is stump grinding so expensive you don't even have to do any work all you do is stand there with a machine the machine does all the work stump grinding should be like $200 a stump
Ever had to replace teeth on a stump rig, how about running the head into a underground power line or water line. Or have to grind a 40×40 ft area to get all the surface roots. A giant ass stump can take a few hours to properly grind and how deep the customer wants plays into cost. Further more most customers want the excess grounds hauled away and the grind are left level. A big ass 40-50 inch diameter stump will fill up a f550 dump truck with leftover grounds.
@@hawkmusic6392 Not to mention a commercial type stump grinder is going to cost well over $20k just for entry commercial. I bought a Carlton Ox in 1999 for $15.5k
People just do not understand what it takes to run a business. They want an insured company but don't want to pay the price. Here is something to look at before you start bashing a company. Factor in the cost of workers comp, liability,man hours, fuel , dumping fees ,wear and tear on machinery. If you don't like the price then don't hire them.
This is stupid do they think all that equipment was free? How does this make the news?
Tree work is expensive, no getting around it. Why is it that everyone is a tree expert but no one questions an electrician or a mason when they hand you the bill?
8k isnt a scam in my eyes. For 2 thicker trees its alot of work. I would of charged the same
More than the trees got "trimmed". Get multiple estimates AND do a web search for complaints about tree services. Any business with more than a complaint or two? Choose someone else.
it's up to the customer
That is a completely normal price.
Just got a quote from on of my local companies for 6k to remove 3 Massive oak trees that are 1 foor from my garage and over hanging its roof including removing the stumps and haul away of debris
You really have to be a part of the industry and/or business to know how expensive and difficult it really can be to fell a massive tree
I’ve billed $8000+ for one tree. Tree work is expensive especially when climbing the tree is necessary. You are paying for the danger to bodies that is involved.
thats not out of line 8000.00 for 2 trees lots of work huge trees cost lots of money to remove
Tree work requires fearless talented hard working men. Climbing and rigging certain trees down is very hard in every way. So dangerous, you saw your rope you fall. You judge the physics wrong and a log on a rope crushes you or a crane topples over. As a climber I can say that I am not an educated man but I have met few who can do this work even after training. Many ppl I know have been crushed, killed, and air lifted from the site. Tree work is a team effort multiple men working through winter snow and summer sun. Season after season. Sweating so much your eyes are blurry until you go to bed. This is a coordinated job with lots of experience and skills required. Heavy machinery, your home on the line men's lives litterly on a line. Insurance power lines. Cranes cdl trucks. License for the city for the cranes for the bucket trucks. I wish that every man who looks down on this work was instantly telaported 90 ft up and had to negative rig a top out.
the police were suprised that they made less. they dont charge per hour but per tree
That's pretty normal for 2 large trees....... Bucket trucks & insurance are not cheap!
The only thing wrong is having her ride to the bank to pay in cash. But she got the price before they did the work i'm sure, and that shit is hard work what do they think it would be like their lawn service bill?
That price may have ben perfectly legitimate, i don't know without being there.
$8000 for 2 trees doesn’t seem crazy. I have a single elm in my backyard and have gotten estimates from $8000-$15000. If the tree is in a weird spot or there are power lines near by it can be a difficult job.
What’s wrong with that price
Absolutely no way of knowing, since we didn't see the actual job in this video!!!
$4,000/tree could be a very fair price for may trees, or a substantial RIP-OFF for many others.....impossible to know here.
This is a bullishit news company she didnt have to agree to the price and everything else you claim is opinion
Depends on the trees ,what's under them ,how long of drag for brush ,septic systems ,lawn sprinklers ,all kind of factors ,but when you call a tree service that brings 1million in equipment and 6 guys it's not going to be cheap ,fast yes cheap no
1 big tree over lots of stuff, maybe bad terrain can go 10grand, maybe more depending on area. 8grand for 2 isn't all that much and the news doesn't know any tree facts of condition/problems and risk. They are slandering without knowing anything really. Lady might have not intended to pay hence the me too poverty story. A tree svc can have well over a million in equipment with 200grand in ins costs per yr easily
I was confused the whole time I was watching this like those trees looked big and it wasn't a good distance from the house. On top of that It was two trees. I think she expected to get them cut down for a few hundred a piece. Like Yu making more at your desk job than the owner of the landscaping company at those prices
Not sure why this made the news.
Yea people ...tree stumps are usually NOT. Included when giving an estimate to cut down trees. Stumps are a BATTLE in there own right . In other words tree stumps are a BIT ( H to remove . All you have to do is ask . Does this price include the stumps . Or is that an additional fee. Just ask for a price with stump removal. And without.. stump removal is t just removing a stump .. it also usually involves removal all the big roots in the immediate area. New soil brought in and new sod put down where the tree was . So there is some nuance to all of this .. best thing is just ask as many questions as you can think of . And if any tree service has a problem with you asking questions. That is your first red flag . Anymore than 1 red flag . Do not hire that tree service . The average person does not own a tree service nor work for one. So there are many questions that may need to be addressed before you move forward with whatever tree service you may be getting. Word of mouth is your best bet.. if know someone that had a good experience with a tree service and they come recommended that is usually your best bet . Don't judge a book by the cover some people think tree service that has a 10 man crew . And all kinds of fancy equipment is the best choice. That is not always true. Sometimes your best choice is 2 guys in a truck . Always make sure they have proper insurance. So if they get hurt it's not on you .
8k smh that better come with a lifetime trimming on the trees smh
I am NOT taking a 8g check either. Cash or Credit period. With plenty of paper work. To insure you cant despute it.
I would have charged $16800
They don't bother to show the girth of the stump's or give any info on the height or proximity to the house of the trees.... BS Reporting!
Most tree crews would build a whole house in a couple days for a hundred grand pay
5k per large tree in DFW.
I wouldn't take a check from somebody these days. Maybe a certified cashier check from a bank, but cash would be preferable. I just spent the weekend taking down a huge walnut in my back yard. 60÷ ft tall and about 40" base. Huge to me at least. Had a buddy that had access to a 100ft bucket truck and we both have good quality saws that were capable. Spent 150$ in just fuel for the truck! I'd bet it would of been 3-4k minimum to have someone do it. No damage, other than a bar and chain! I wouldn't recommend it to just anybody. If ya don't like a price, call someone else.
Tree workers work 10 times faster than every other profession,
We do thirty days of work in one day compared to construction,
This is why hate the news! I bid tree jobs ALL THE TIME and the risk to reward factors are real! Not to mention hiring workers and equipment and insurance… loading and unloading and dump fees! Don’t even get me started!!!
Everybody is an expert hahaha
$8K all day on that one
All that wood had to be relocated
It's a free market.... if you don't like the price don't hire them...
plp really dont understand what we do to get these trees down there's alot of experience involved with it lots of knowledge!! if you want a professional to remove it your gonna pay alot!!! us tree guys deserve it!! it's very dangerous as well. although we do make it look easy but there's alot of years involved for us to make it look easy. I love doing tree work always something different and always a challenge
That's a fair price