How good is Bo Nickal?
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- čas přidán 12. 08. 2022
- Chael Sonnen talks Bo Nickal on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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All things UFC and MMA with the undefeated Bad Guy, Chael Sonnen. UFC Champions, Jon Jones, Conor McGregor, Colby Covington, Khamzat Chimaev, the MMA hour and commentary on the latest UFC news, UFC Champions in 2022, UFC knockouts and finishes. - Zábava
Uh Sir you are wrong. the GOAT named Chael Sonnen was well rounded. Great double leg takedown, spinning backfist .... curl defense...and he could break somebody's toe without touching it.
What a guy
was?
@@bofasofa9399 HE IS STILL UNDEFEATED, NEVER LOST A ROUND!!!
What're you talking about he never even lettem get close
If chael says Jon's the goat, then Jon's the goat. If he says gsp is the goat the next day, then gsp is the goat. Thems the rules sorry don't make em just follow em.
@@skankhuntdave7232 wannanow wannanow
Upon Bo being asked how he understands space and time so well, he responds : "Time is just one of those concepts, you either get it or you don't, it's one of those concepts"
Talking about this dude like he the second coming of Jesus, or the second coming of Khabib, get real
@@stevenmcsteven6693 Did you ever see him wrestle in college... He truly was very special and he's a very dedicated hard worker so he will learn and adapt very quickly to the mma sport. He's going to surprise people
@@stevenmcsteven6693 but ne could be, and people recognise it, duh
Thank you for this
@@stevenmcsteven6693 bruh hes a 4x ncaa wrestling finalist and a 3x ncaa champion like cmon
Bo has such an entertaining ballsy wrestling style and it reflects in his mma fights, cant wait to see how he develops.
Righttt like heavy influence on wrestling.
That’s great Chael, but what does Stipe’s Old Lady think about Bo?
We finally have our newest Chael quote for every video: Chael “How Good Is Bo Nickal” Sonnen
It's just one of those things...
Where does Kevin Lee fit in?
"I offer u this 🖕" -Bo Nickal
I love it
I mean where does Kevin Lee fit into this tho?
Bo has stated in an interview he is still constantly in the wrestling room sharpening his tools. I wouldn't worry about his skills getting worse in that regard.
He needs to work on striking or he's bellator bound.
His gym American Top Team Happy Valley, is a short drive to the Penn State wrestling room, where both the Penn State wrestling team and the NLWC RTC team practice. He has the best of the best to practice with for folkstyle and/or freestyle wrestling if he wants.
After listening to his interviews I have to say I agree that it is competitive spirit that stands out.
Man I love wrestling and follow it as close as you do and don’t think Deron beats Bo. Like I dont even think it’s close if they wrestled.
Bo would smoke him lol
Exactly!!!! Couldn’t believe he said that
I was trying to remember how many decorated wrestlers have come into the UFC or MMA and I think the list is quite large. Just off the top of my head there’s Sonnen, Tito, Ben Askren, Tyron Woodley, Cormier, and Coutoure who were all very accomplished wrestlers. Ed Ruth is another 3x NCAA champion and former Penn Stater just like Nickals who’s currently competing in Bellator.
So yeah the point about how much does it matter is a good one. It seems at the UFC level the guys are so accomplished that you can’t just expect to outwrestle them every time. The background will help him, but there’s many, many other variables at play.
True
Coleman, Kerr, Couture, and Randleman were also all very, very good wrestlers. Olympic level guys.
Not as Good as Bo. Especially at pinning dudes which is helpful in MMA
Chael illustrated a great point at the end. Specialists have to continue to sharpen the sword that got them there or it will stagnate, possibly even regress.
Chael “Bo understands the time-space Continuum” Sonnen
Good enough to get Chael to make a video about it. My money is on Kerbeeb though
Khalabeeb*
This better get alot of likes lol
Khabib smh
@@6starFenrir khalabeeb *
bouta lose money
Since Bo knows space and time, I'd encourage him to table the mma and get busy with some astrophysics...
🤣
Definitely caught me off guard with that amigo. Thank you for the laugh
Bo would smoke Winn in a wrestling match of any style
Yup. I had to rewind that for a second and search if there was another Deron Winn he was speaking about.
One of Chaels best insights right here.
It's so insane to look back and think about how good jon Jones was at basically everything. Inside the octagon, hes literally the perfect fighter
roids
Roids don't judge distance padwan.
@@dogwater290 Jones out wrestled Chael. And Chael out wrestled everyone. I believe both were sampling some juice at the time.
Its not roids you absolute ignorant fools, it's just mere picograms and a little cocaine to fuel Jones before the fights it's nothing major
Funny becose now casuals are saying "but francis can wrestle" i dont see francis/jon even being a good fight.
Chael is referring to "controlling the distance" and he's 100% right. Undefeated, undisputed 👊👊💪
All great points! I enjoyed this one Chael!
Excellent presentation. You're a smart guy Chael.
Solid commentary that edifies all sport.
Chael soonen. Just rewatched one of the greatest fights. You v anderson. In my book, total dominance and intensity. Your tank for your size is second 2 none. You remind me of bispings integrity. Your my fav all time unrecognized champs. Forever in our minds. Witt with physical skill.
Bisping never did steroids though
@@Cts_99 🤣
but i also have to say chael has evidence in this video for me, that he knows how to think and win. he objectively is making this the best MMA show to listen to this. i didnt listen to helwani. i listen to chael though (+ JRE, MSSP, Cumtown) all the time. chael is the tony romo of MMA- and we saw how much romo is worth
@@deepaktoor7376 how do we know chael juiced?
@@shaungoodall9285 i thought he admitted it himself?
People don't know this,but Bo's full name is Boseph Nickalodeon.
Love the history at the beginning of the segment. Meanwhile,imo- we don’t know yet…..or do we ?
You could promote a wrestling match - Jon vs. Bo- make $ for sure…..let’s find out.👍😎🎥make sure there’s video🤔❤️
I married a Nittany Lion class of 83’… I’m never cheering against Bo Nickal. One year to the belt- maybe 15 months…. I love that Dana is slow walking Bo, we can protect young athletes from serious injury that way.
Chael, can you do a tour of your video setup, Mics, Cameras, Walls, Where you had your Bad Guy sign made. It's not really your channel's thing, but you have one of the most impressive setups on youtube in my opinion and Id love an in-depth look...
I agree Chael, fighters don't really need to be well rounded. If they are other worldly in one aspect it's all they need. I think it was Bruce Lee "fake tough guy" who said don't fear the man who knows 10k kicks fear the man who has trained one kick 10k times.
I love Chael's extensive use of the phrase " It's one of those things "!! It should be trade marked!!😤
Bo is a pinning machine. Does that convert into a great mma fighter? One thing you can't plan on is what happens when someone gets hit hard. I think Bo has a chance to get very good at the fight game. The guy that comes to my mind is Arron Picco a great wrestler then he started knocking out people and then he started getting his own self knocked out.
I was glad to see him take some time off and get himself centered, the skies still the limit with him
Pico was a top tier amateur boxer as well. That combo made him the prospect he was. It’s inaccurate to say he was simply a wrestler like Bo or Yoel.
Confidence is a MF
I think Pico just had a tendency to fight recklessly. Wasn't that he couldn't take a punch, but when you leave yourself open and get hit bad things happen no matter how good you are.
@@AllenCarterNews And that's what young, 26 year-old Bo hasn't integrated into his MMA career.
He thinks since he's so good IN WRESTLING, that he'd just take Whittaker, Cannonier, Izzy, Khamzat al down and do to them what he wishes. THAT's in his ideal wrestling world. He's getting into MMA (still not signed by the UFC yet) but he still thinks like a pure wrestler.
In MMA people like Whittaker, Izzy et al would KO him before he could take them down. He has ZERO fear when he's taking another wrestler down, even an elite one... so he thinks MMA guys would be EXACTLY like that.... but just many orders of magnitude EASIER to take down, since they're not elite wrestlers, etc.
He's lucky the UFC is bringing him up slowly, due to his exceptional talents in pure wrestling. If that talent is nurtured and grow, as he upgrade his striking, BJJ, and other major aspects of MMA, he could become a great MMA guy.
But, again, I giggled silly, when he said RIGHT NOW he could just take Izzy down and do what he wants, IF the UFC were to allow him to fight Izzy. No, he won't. As Sonnen said: if Floyd or Canelo or Tyson or Gordon Ryan were to come to MMA (to have come to MMA, in some alterante reality where they're in their prime, with MMA as developed as it is right now) --- they would be KOed or subbed before they know what's up or down.
Anyway, I doubt Bo would even get passed Khamzat, right now, and Khamzat is just 27 like he is, still very inexperienced, too.... 1, 2, or 3 years from now, we don't know, perhaps he could. But right now, most top 5 at 185 would just punch him silly. And he DOES have very decent striking ability, for a guy still in his earliest journeyman days, pre-UFC....
I do 100% believe Gordon Ryan with the right coaching and training could be a nightmare for everyone at 205
He won't though. His home is in bjj.
@@jesseruark5323 I know but I’ll still watch him fight 3-17 bums in Asia, then dunk on the worlds.
No way. Ryan doesn’t have the takedowns or the speed to get modern fighters - who all have years training takedown defense with elite wrestlers - to the ground. We’ve seen Ryan wrestle and he’s it good at it.
@@justindbond I was more thinking if he was able to learn to kick box, he would be a problem, cuz even the best wrestlers in the world likely don’t want to end up in Gordon Ryan’s guard.
incredibly to say the least. even if he’s at his ceiling already. he’s pretty damn good
Half the reason im so hype for bo nickal to get in the UFC is because we get more chael videos talkin about bo nickal
Thanks Chael!
Did he say Deron would beat Bo in a wrestling match??? That is wildly absurd. Bo would tech him inside 2:00
Fr It could get competitive in freestyle maybe, but folkstyle Bo kills him lol
Totally agree, I was looking for the comment that said this. Bo is one of top 10 wrestlers in history from the NCAA and that to me is worth more than Olympic and world level wrestlers because folk style is more applicable to mma then freestyle or greco
Chael Sonnen is levels above any fighter ever. Historians say that Thor the god of thunder, was Vikings way of saying Chael Sonnen.
Kiyon Kimura got beat to the punch.
Ultimate Chael takeaway: Folkstyle is best wrestling/grappling style for MMA. I never thought of that before. 2nd: Askren won with no striking. Just what he was good at. Wrestling! Crediting @Monsterbaby's Channel also. 3rd: Nobody killed folkstyle like Bo!
(Accept his coach Cael Sanderson who DC fatefully lost too)
Bo and PD3 both looked great!
Preach, Sir Chael! Preach!
Great video
There is a different conversation to be had. Part of the hype behind Bo is that he represents a different style of wrestling which is modern American Funk such as Jordan Oliver or Isaiah Martinez for example. Previous wrestlers have been fundamentalist based on their culture, environment , or geographic location. Bo is a new style of wrestling which in my opinion when done correctly beats the Khamzat-Khabib style
I think Chael sees a bit of himself in Bo and I don't think he's wrong
“Let’s wrestle, let’s wrestle, let’s wrestle “
The irony of two non wrestling experts, having a classic line about wrestling in the octagon is priceless.
Khabib had competed in freestyle wrestling and he was surrounded by olympic wrestlers since he was small.
Might be better to wait until Bo actually gets a real contract with the UFC and fights a real killer. Kinda sick of guessing which of the "best wrestlers in the world" do anything at all in the biggest MMA promotion on the planet. It's seriously been a mixed bag of great and terrible.
As every other sport head contributed to MMA. Wrestling, however, has produced the most champions, by far!
You think he will fight a real killer? He’ll have the easiest route to the top 5 possible. He will have Dana by his side the whole way
8:22 Bo Knows
Not sure what took so long for this, been waiting since late Tuesday
Jones was great at judging distance when he first came to everyone’s attention. He also had a huge height and reach advantage on everyone he fought. The 2 fights he had against guys his size didn’t go as well. He won according to most but it was close and got beat up You can’t deny his talent but he also cheated. Let’s see what happens when the guys his size weigh 250 and hit him like Gustafson or Reyes did.
Francis will swallow him
So you’re going to pretend Jones vs Gus 2 didn’t happen ? What about Jones vs Smith ? He’s dominated guys his size as well. Stop with this false narrative, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
83.5 inch reach
@@chrisblondin5540 84.5*
on paper on his last fight was 🔥
His shot-slam-ground and pound in one foul swoop was insanely quick
one fell swoop** gotta brush up on your Macbeth my brotha!!😂
That’s on me - thank you king
@@m.o.5291 one “fell” swoop
1:35 "I can't remember the last time [Jon Jones]... walked into a group, in front of kids."
Jon's spoken to lots of kids, but that's usually because a court told him to. 😎👊
Bo isn't going to stop wrestling. He is still involved with Penn State. He trains there .
Can you do a video on the contender series? Got a buddy gonna be on it Sept 13th
Chael “I appreciate that” Sonnen
Being a winner is always a good sign of being a winner; that´s what matters if you ask me
Becoming more well-rounded really helped Charles Oliveira
Chael once said that the Elites that do one thing great aren't considered "well rounded" cuz they never have to show anything else. That's why they Jiri-Glover fight was so impressive by Jiri to me. No one knew he had a decent ground game. And as far as Chael saying Champs like Izzy that do one thing great so they don't have to show anything else, he's wrong. Usman is a great example. Go back and watch the season where he was on TUF and then watch either fight with Colby. He was strictly a wrestler who now has a world class stand up game. What makes him the P4P #1
Nah, both Colby and Usman are wrestlers and neither have a "world class stand up" game. They are good no doubt and can hang with strikers because the striker is thinking about the take down and leaving themselves exposed trying to stop the take down.
@@moto-fl3rd I agree that the threat of a takedown helps both of their standup game. Colby's might not be "elite" but it's damn good, he just rarely has to show it. And I'm guessing u agree that Madival and Burns are both top end strikers and Usman KO'd both of them
@@billm3902 I haven't seen much of Burns so I don't know. Jorge is pretty good. Jorge said he trained for Usman to wrestle like he did the first time so maybe that is why he got caught. Either way Usman is dang good just wish he didn't whisper talk!
Bo Nickal was a Top 100 Middleweight before knowing a punch kick or submission now he knows a little and is Top 50 8 months into his Career.
Good enough to come back on the contender, apparently. ;)
Uncle Chael is a national treasure
Very interesting.
Bo is a stud wherever he is
there seems to be some sentiment below that bo is a wrestler who just turned pro and that his background outside of wrestling is slim.
I remember something like 6-7 years ago hearing about how he liked grappling and submission stuff and was already toying with striking back then..
...and thinking "why is he wasting his time with the grappling stuff and dreaming about UFC when he's got the potential to be a world class wrestlers".
He hasn't really been tested yet in a sanctioned fight, but he has extreme stamina, the will to win, the will to train hard and *know*, not just mindless training, and he is unreal as a wrestler not just with takedowns, but being faster and stronger than everyone and knowing how to get positions reversed in a hurry.
He tied and then lost a second honest match 11-5 to J-den Cox, the world champ and has dominated other guys like Downey.
I remember him flipping nick gravina, who is a mediocre wrestler who tries to out muscle everyone - flipping him like a lid on a teapot.
Bo went up a weight class for J'den. Didn't want to take his partner and world, olympic champ David Taylor at that time.
Conditioning regiment… Bo can go !
I love how unko chale is pushing the info for Bo
McGregor vs Ferguson… The fight we NEED to see!! Thumbs up if you agree so uncle Chael sees it and gets the word out!!
Very good
Chael “it’s one of those things” Sonnen
Bo has the cardio and world class wrestling. Those alone will keep him competitive as he grows
But his chin has yet to be tested, nor have his legs been chopped. There’s so many other variables that it’s quite naive to consider him a top contender outside of the show. When he gets hit, and has to fight more than 60sec, then we’ll know if he’s got what it takes.
Chael just described Usman. He doesn't wrestle much anymore. He has come a long way with his hands thanks to Trevor Whitman, but I hope he's still practicing his wrestling.
He has basically wrestled everyone except Colby Covington who is virtually impossible to take down, he didn’t go down with Gilbert cuz he’s already a much better stand up fightwr
Nobody:
Uncle Chael: People are calling for Bo vs Izzy right now.
He’s an incredible athlete who probably has the best background for MMA but he still needs more experience and needs to see more bodies, for all we know he could have a glass chin.
Hard to say for sure. Part of the chin equation is having a head and jaw constructed to require greater force to move equivalent distance than other head and jaw structures. Big, wide head, short, thick neck, nestled in meaty traps is the ideal head and neck physiology. Think Gastelum, Hunt, Cormier.
Jaw should be equivalently wide to fit the head, rugged, with a chin that is not too deep, as you want to minimize the lever to torque the jaw and head with. More Mark Hunt, less Todd Duffee.
Then there are the unseen aspects of brain resiliency that keep the lights on. I would expect the likes of Mark Hunt to have some skull/brain adaptations besides the above listed to survive unarmored melee combat, which happened routinely in Polynesian islands in history. Probably more robust spine and cranium.
Best thing for Bo is to hit and not get hit, like Chael did for the most part. Has the skills to make that happen.
@@executivelifehacks6747 sure structure has some to do with it but it's neck strength. Boxers train the neck. I've seen Triple G do "push ups" with just his head and Canelo do exercises with weights on his head. And those guys can take a punch.
@Summer probably he's going to end up like bo nickal
@@moto-fl3rd Kid, wrestlers train the neck too. Neck bridges, farmer's walks, etc. Wrestler's are known for their ears and their huge necks
@@burgerkang3249 I realize wrestler's train their neck. Not sure they train it to the level of boxers though. I have seen video of Tyson doing neck bridges. Don't think cauliflower ear helps them take a punch though.
Need a video on Pat Downey
Am I allowed to look forward to a Khamzat Chimaev vs Bo Nickal at middleweight in a few years or is it too soon?
But ufc didn’t sign him. I bet it’s a pay dispute. Ufc can’t pay the minimum for him.
@@anekinoo7 He's had 2 professional fights. Chill out, 1 more fight and they sign him.
@Hisoka Khamzat is 6'2" and Bo is 6'1". Khamzat has fought at middleweight twice. It CAN happen. But I'm not gonna speculate further because it's so far in the future
@Hisoka Khamzat may fight at WW but no way he is smaller than Bo. Khamzat could fight at LHW, dude is massive. He made Hermansson look tiny.
@Hisoka OH I disagree with that. I don't think the size difference will be a problem. They're both big guys.
Never heard of nikel, so I'm tuning into uncle chael for his opinion.
He needs Firas Zahabi type of trainer to take his game to that next level
Firas Zahabi
WISDOM
Time will tell
He looked great but I'd like to see him fight a few more times to really get a good grip on how good he is
Can't wait to see him fight someone good.and get knocked out
@@pizzacatz3174 weirdo
I miss when MMA was still figuring itself out and people had different styles
Styles are still there just more subtle
I don't. Being well rounded to let your style shine is much more exciting
So good he deserves a contract.
not good from business perspective
I feel like bo is literally what justin would be as a fighter if he used his fucking wrestling
Justin's wrestling is overrated af, his fight IQ is also subpar and he panics when he gets hit. See Khabib and Oliveira fight for proof.
Lmao gaethjes wrestling is 💩
I wrestled bo nickal he gave me a work out and that’s says something
Goat Chael
Used to watch Bo Nickal wrestle in high school. Would watch his practice with his coach, Jerry Best. Is he better than Mark Schultz?
I have a feeling we're about to start seeing a lot more videos titled Bow Nicholson lol
Chael gets it & he did the deal! And, Bo does get it as he's calm cool and collective in the O!
But Chael left out one important thing! As you go thru life, a person that is well traveled can spot real talent w/ in a minute!
I'm here to tell the UFC world and Chael, Bo will upset many top fighters and become the champion! This kid knows his limits, quick learner & a natural! Be scared of this dude... he's a special talent!
Chael and Cejudo would have an interesting conversation because Cejudo is critical of anyone who isn't well rounded. Honestly i think both can work depending on the fighter.
Incredibly fast.
I wanna see Bo take some nasty kicks to the legs and see how he deals with them
Bad comparison with Deron bc he's like 5'4 and is at 185. I agree, wrestling is not the end all be all, but bo has some other weapons that make him dynamic.
11:00 Justin Gaethje took that personal 🤣
The worlds greatest boxer comparison was a great point. For whatever reason though, wrestling seems to be more valuable in MMA.
We get it Chael, ya love Bo, lol
00:50 Kherbib 🫠
I waited for so long to see him make it to the UFC, now another CS fight?! C'mon uncle Dana!
Bo is still in the penn state wrestling room everyday
My Mamma said I don't know Bo Diddley and if I need to know just how good Bo Nickal really is, just go ask Chael P Sonnen.
How good is Bo's chin? Thats the question that really needs to be asked.
Keep wrestling Bo. Think he could still make the next Olympic team if he wanted.
The real question is where does Kevin Lee fits in all of this.
I like how charl finally quit shittung on jon