2022 Raaw Jibb Review : Smooth, Silent and Sturdy | 2021 Fall Field Test

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  • čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
  • Raaw came out swinging with the Madonna several years ago, but now they have a smaller travel sibling in their lineup, the Raaw Jibb. With its industrial looks and oversized main pivot, the new 135mm Jibb certainly looks like it's up to the task, but does this translate to performance out on the trails?
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    00:00 - Intro
    00:32 - Bike Overview
    03:30 - Climbing
    06:25 - Descending
    10:52 - Components
    12:08 - Models
    12:54 - Pros
    13:19 - Cons
    14:21 - Verdict
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  • @crt542
    @crt542 Před 2 lety +44

    Another thing: for those who want a bit more out of bike.
    Raaw do provide aftermarket dropout cups to change the leinght of chainstays on any size frame to 440, 445, 450

  • @DaBinChe
    @DaBinChe Před 2 lety +10

    I wanna see a comparison between the Raw Jibb, Privateer 141, Knolly Fugitive 138....basically all the aggressive aluminum trail bikes.

  • @m1mars
    @m1mars Před 2 lety +9

    Love my Jibb!! 8 months with no issues
    I put a 160 fork for a 65 degree head angle. Great all arounder

  • @robygoncalves4348
    @robygoncalves4348 Před 2 lety +2

    I love these review guys, keep it up. I watched each one so far and they are engaging and informative. Good job

  • @daweil94
    @daweil94 Před 2 lety +60

    Pro: it's pulls off the basic vertical shock Horst Link design in the most beautiful way

    • @nicko9579
      @nicko9579 Před 2 lety +6

      It sure is pretty. Not a horst linkage tho. Horst link would have the chainstay link bolt to the seat stay at a point lower than the rear axle. The jibb's lower link is in line with the axle.

    • @trentvlak
      @trentvlak Před 2 lety

      @@nicko9579 lol, dude really

    • @nicko9579
      @nicko9579 Před 2 lety +11

      @@trentvlak Yes really. He even calls it a 4 bar linkage in the video. The first paragraph on raaw website calls it a 4 bar. What's your issue?

    • @trentvlak
      @trentvlak Před 2 lety +1

      @@nicko9579 Horst is a 4 bar. What's your issue? It's a Horst. The pivot is even below the horizontal of the axle.

    • @zonoskar
      @zonoskar Před 2 lety +1

      @@trentvlak The Horst patent specifically calls the rear pivot below the rear axle. That's why Rocky Mountain could get away with their Smoothlink suspension.

  • @piast99
    @piast99 Před 2 lety +9

    I ride this bike since this summer. I love it. I wouldn't call it efficient but I have no direct comparison to other bikes as I rode light 27.5" trail bike before and I've put its components on Jibb frame so it may be just the feeling. For sure it has a ton of traction. Pointed downhill it rides like on rails. It is built like a tank. The chainstays are massive and with that oversized pivot they provide huge lateral stiffness. As for the jibbness, again, I haven't compared it to other bikes but I've built it around mid-tuned RockShox Deluxe Ultimate and Lyrik Ulitmate and i find it jibby.

  • @mileslandis3322
    @mileslandis3322 Před 2 lety

    yes y'all make fire videos, loved the info!

  • @trentvlak
    @trentvlak Před 2 lety +6

    I went on a quest to find a chainstay protector for my bike (a Focus) and the first nice one I saw in stock was the one from this bike. It works really well and was under $20!

  • @frankthetankricard
    @frankthetankricard Před 2 lety +4

    At first I didn't understand why they would make the top of the downtube concave just to route a fraction of the cables there. Then at 2:33 I almost had a heart attack when I saw the position of the shock reservoir but I soon realized the connection. I imagine you got to be careful when fitting a different shock on this one.

  • @halfgeek1394
    @halfgeek1394 Před 2 lety +1

    And there you have it, they finally mentioned the wandering bite point. Too bad I didn't bet on it with my local bike shop mechanic, probably could have won some money betting that you'd mention it. Honestly I've never had the issue with a set of well bled brakes, yeah when they need a bleed they act really weird, but they're super easy to bleed and they don't suck air like Srams do.

  • @ANTheWhizkid
    @ANTheWhizkid Před 2 lety

    You gotta love pb´s field test... perfectly nestled between the season and new years... - What I´d love to know is: How does the set of bikes that you test come together? Do you request them or are the reps offering them to you? How does the supply chain affect your job this year? I mean of course theres more awesome brands producing sweet bikes too. Ad hoc I don´t know if every of the brands I´m thinking about released a new revision or model. But Levy´s new favorite: the zerode taniwha for example should have been in^^

  • @lukemcc_
    @lukemcc_ Před 2 lety +1

    That bike is sick!!!!

  • @nicko9579
    @nicko9579 Před 2 lety +2

    Definitely the stand out on PBs field test this go round. I bought a privateer 141 a few months before raaw announced the jibb. Similar bikes, but I think id have rather waited for the jibb.

    • @DavidFoundCo
      @DavidFoundCo Před 2 lety +1

      What’s worse on the privateer?

    • @nicko9579
      @nicko9579 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DavidFoundCo I bought a 141 complete and it's just a burly ass bike for the trails around me. Nothing worse really, its just a big banger for rolling style loop trails that I ride after work. The raw geo is a little more conservative which would probably fit the riding in my area better. It's a marginal difference between the two though. Mike Levy would mention the bottle storage on the 141 is tight in comparison. The derailleur hanger on the 141 is unique too, which is a turn off. And the frame protection succks. Overall I'm pleased and wouldn't hesitate to recommend the bike if it fits your needs. It's fast. It pedals pretty damn good and it's got good traction on the climbs. It's long though, so if you got tight switchbacks get good at wheel lift turns.

  • @jamie-kd9tx
    @jamie-kd9tx Před 2 lety +4

    levy has been on donut media too much, "but you can definitely fit a coilover" haha

    • @Vanadium
      @Vanadium Před 2 lety

      hahaha, he loves donouts so he must be loving them too, eh?

  • @nacnud2323
    @nacnud2323 Před 2 lety +5

    I would love to know how this compares to the privateer 141. I trying to decide on the alloy bike for me, days in the mountains and the occasional visit to the bike park. The Stumpy is looking good at the moment.

    • @adanielweaver
      @adanielweaver Před 2 lety +1

      I thought Privateer is basically just a cheaper version of Raaw bikes. Heavier, less refined, but ride similar

    • @fairyhardcore
      @fairyhardcore Před 2 lety +4

      I have a Banshee Prime. Just built it up but should be on your alloy bike list for sure 🤘

    • @piersbickerton-jones6231
      @piersbickerton-jones6231 Před 2 lety

      Check out Banshee if you’re after an alloy bike. Give Rulezman suspension CZcams a look. Also Nicolai/Geometron if you have the coin

  • @86309
    @86309 Před 2 lety

    How are you guys getting wicked will tires, is schwalbe providing. Man I want a set . Not even on their website.

  • @jankaskyevitchjellbet7293

    Jibb v2 will have 64ht angle, I will wait

  • @adrianw3985
    @adrianw3985 Před 2 lety +4

    This sounds like my kind of bike. Being that I am a guy, that worked in a bike shop and built quite a few bikes, I would dig making it exactly the way I wanted component wise.

  • @hannes6114
    @hannes6114 Před 2 lety +1

    How many german bikes are on this series ? ;)

  • @GrigoryRechistov
    @GrigoryRechistov Před 2 lety +5

    "The largest main pivot on any bike ever" - wasn't GT I-drive bearing assembly about 1.5 times larger than what is on Jibb?

    • @runrunrun51
      @runrunrun51 Před 2 lety +3

      Beat me to it! Yes I-drive 4 used two pivots with 1"1/8 bearings as excentric system... It looks similarly big though

    • @LukasDePraga
      @LukasDePraga Před 2 lety

      @@runrunrun51 I think the OP refers to even older I-Drive with a concentric "pivot" that looked like a small Big Ben in the bottom bracket.

  • @DionEconomopoulos-tb1vn
    @DionEconomopoulos-tb1vn Před 7 měsíci

    I absolutely love this girl

  • @Tequila628
    @Tequila628 Před 2 lety

    Beautiful bike.

  • @kellyrobinson550
    @kellyrobinson550 Před 2 lety

    Love the channel guys 👍 Alicia,you are adorable 😉
    🤘

  • @User-re9so
    @User-re9so Před 2 lety +1

    I guess a kind of „poppier“ shock would get that jibby felling for that bike

  • @petesahad3028
    @petesahad3028 Před 2 lety +4

    That's a company from my neighborhood. Sadly that doesn't grant me a 70% discount.

  • @erikandre88
    @erikandre88 Před rokem

    Interessante un confronto con la transition smuggler 2023 🤔

  • @keironandrews5235
    @keironandrews5235 Před 2 lety

    Also reckon the Raw would be good for heavier riders like me

  • @sapinva
    @sapinva Před 2 lety +2

    So 450 mm chain stays. It's a downhill bike with a little fork.

  • @t3KJolly
    @t3KJolly Před 2 lety +2

    Bearings on shock mount? You do not notice it as soon as the weight of the rider sits on it!

    • @ArmaniFlyHigh
      @ArmaniFlyHigh Před 2 lety +2

      think high speed.......

    • @t3KJolly
      @t3KJolly Před 2 lety +1

      @@ArmaniFlyHigh breakaway torque is probably always overcome by the weight of the driver. and when the thing moves, it moves. regardless of speed.

  • @Alexandros_Patsialidis
    @Alexandros_Patsialidis Před 2 lety +2

    Who on earth ist the rider in the yellow jacket that we see in every video???

  • @owenkennedy7854
    @owenkennedy7854 Před 2 lety

    It’s…perfect

  • @aresrespati
    @aresrespati Před 2 lety

    what trail bike is better to use for uphill, downhill and the best value for money? alloy & carbon

  • @rorixaviertolentino3610

    @3:05 cable must be rubbing on chain

  • @VincentJGoh
    @VincentJGoh Před 2 lety +1

    Wait, a 'Mountain Bike'? Is that a NEW CATEGORY

  • @zonoskar
    @zonoskar Před 2 lety +8

    Pros: not a bendy tube in sight (well, apart from the seat tube). Cons: Needs more riding clips of Alicia.

  • @CCWclassic
    @CCWclassic Před 2 lety +2

    Alicia is 🔥

  • @danielpatino3868
    @danielpatino3868 Před 2 lety +4

    The fox transfer post are trash!!! Super overrated, mine have been at fox twice in the last 6months for the same issue, it gets stuck in the last 40mm of the top travel.
    Fox should recall those things, I had a bad accident going into a punchy technical climb the dropper got stuck in the middle and I couldn't do the climb resulting in a bad crash, messed up my right leg and scratch my bikes top tube.
    #transferpostrecall

  • @jankaskyevitchjellbet7293

    I bet it is made in the same factory as privateer

    • @Vanadium
      @Vanadium Před 2 lety +1

      They both share some stuff, I would say the Jibb and the Madonna have a even worse brake hose routing.
      Here where I live I see a lot of them and I have the 161.

  • @xaccix
    @xaccix Před 2 lety

    😍

  • @caseyas8572
    @caseyas8572 Před 2 lety +2

    I'm really more in the real jibb bike camp. Like with short chainstays (even though I am tall-ish and the industry says tall riders don't get short chainstays...). Seems like kind of a dud, or a compromise at best.

  • @franzmarkmann8721
    @franzmarkmann8721 Před rokem

    In Aachen ist es anders rum mit der Seltenheit

  • @Talking_Bugatti
    @Talking_Bugatti Před 2 lety

    I dont like the collor :_(

  • @grigoriosbakirtzis9158
    @grigoriosbakirtzis9158 Před rokem +1

    When are you guys start to use the SI system? Or if you don’t want to comply with the civilized world, at least state the values in both systems…

  • @heldersousa3459
    @heldersousa3459 Před 2 lety

    Voçes podiam me ajudar com um visto para o EUA ,vivendo em um país de terceiro mundo é muito difiçil ter as bike do primeiro mundo.Linda bike mas na periferia mundial tudo é um impecilho.Por favor.

  • @christopherwatson1163
    @christopherwatson1163 Před 2 lety +4

    Why don't you use the metric system all the time. Pounds? Seriously?

  • @manuelbernsau589
    @manuelbernsau589 Před 2 lety

    Looks like a copy of the NICOLAI Saturn 14-ST.

    • @maffin2917
      @maffin2917 Před 2 lety +3

      Dont see that. the looks are alot cleaner on the Raaw imo, also the geo is quite different. Only thing they share is the 4 bar design and that is something a lot of bikes share.

  • @hannesnohl8627
    @hannesnohl8627 Před 2 lety +6

    1st

  • @NS-zv9qf
    @NS-zv9qf Před 2 lety +2

    Looks like a poor mans Banshee

  • @NickBainas
    @NickBainas Před 2 lety

    put some pedals on that thing. bikes on display with no pedals look stupid

  • @urg0nnah8me
    @urg0nnah8me Před 2 lety +3

    Wow, another $2500+ frame with nothing remarkable to note. Old ass horst link. It's heavy. Not pushing any crazy geometry numbers. Externally routed cables. We're talking about a bike that would be at home in 2017. I'll take a hard pass on this over-priced, middle of the road tank.

    • @trentvlak
      @trentvlak Před 2 lety

      Yeah, should be $1400

    • @nicko9579
      @nicko9579 Před 2 lety

      Not a horst link.

    • @dl6860
      @dl6860 Před 2 lety

      +1

    • @Vanadium
      @Vanadium Před 2 lety +3

      I still dont get it why people want internal routing. Makes absolutely no sense to me. If you want to hide it, do it like Canyon does it or like an GT.

    • @urg0nnah8me
      @urg0nnah8me Před 2 lety +1

      @@Vanadium Personally, I don't fancy internal routing either. It's a nightmare for hydraulic brake replacement and can be quite noisy if measures aren't taken to secure the cables inside. A well designed externally routed system is much easier to work with and it's much easier to track down a noisy cable. However, it seems to be what most people prefer.