Man, i'm not even that big of a hockey fan but Messier is a one of a kind. Barely ever mentioned himself when the night was all about him, it was about the team, fans and staff. Classy guy.
This brave woman sang this great at song at 1:04:00 in....she was the widow of Christopher Reeve. She belted out this song with lung cancer, and only lived another 7 weeks. God Bless her.
He missed the playoffs 5 times in 10 years in ny and passed the 2nd round just two times with help from Gretz! Do you really think that's great? Pfffffffff! 1-2-3 NO COCAINE FOR SCOTTY!
Hitlers dog was alive for 15 years when the Rangers won their first three cups. Your great grandfather is going on 80 years old and witnessed just two NYR cups! Get used to it!
@@joshhutchison6201 YUP he has thrown a couple of those ... but so did Howe ...whats your point ... Messier is without a doubt the best Captain i have seen in my 50yrs ... and in my opinion he is the best all round hockey player ever ... and i put him maybe 5th best player to play ...behind Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux, and Howe
NY retired his number before Edmonton did. His cup win in 94 did a lot for NY. A year after the first word trade center bombing... NY's were still trying to re build itself. 1940 was a long time ago. Before USA got involved in WWII. He helped rebuild faith in NY and faith in the rangers. He brought back something to NY that unless you're a rangers fan you wouldn't understand.
ClearVue I wasn’t born that year. As a Ranger fan it almost feels like 94. One day we will hoist the cup. For now I’m growing up with another NY legend. Henrik Lundqvist.
That's exactly what my Dad said about the 94 Rangers Cup. It not only gave the Rangers fans hope, but to believe anything is possible. Even influenced other teams to have hope to win the Cup themselves
@@parkerbeard6170 Most fans aren't satisfied with just one Cup, but the vibe I get is that it doesn't matter how long ago 1994 was, they have not gotten over that win.
About New York retiring Messier's number before Edmonton, remember that Edmonton has a policy of only retiring numbers for Hall of Famers. But it's true, his one Cup with New York meant more to the Rangers than any of his five Cups with Edmonton.
@@broadstreet21 Blues fan here, definitely satisfied with just one, if nothing else ever happens. I 100% wouldn’t be a hockey fan if not for Messier, Graves, Leetch, and Richter
Finally!! I was there that night and gave up looking for a version that didn't edit out that it took like a full min for Messier to come out after announced. Knowing him he was probably sobbing his eyes out and trying to get a hold of himself but it made it even better. We were all like 'where is he? They told him the right date right?" and then the door opens up and there he is! everyone goes crazy.
It was obvious when he walked out that he had been crying before also that he was tearing up the entire way out and couldn’t even look at the players as he walked out. One more thing to love about him.
I was fortunate to be here on this night. I cried the entire time. I’m crying now while typing this out. Mark Messier is my favorite athlete of all time. Mark Messier, Mike Piazza and Curtis Martin. 3 Classy Hofer’s.
I will never forget Dana Reeve singing only to die from cancer a few years later. So unfair, but at least she is with her husband Christopher in heaven. RIP
Graves was an average player! Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie do more charity work than he does and you don't see a bullshit ceremony for them. Fan favorite but just another average player.
ghytgb If You think Grave was an average player, then that proves you are a total ass!, and have no respect or knowledge of the sport! you should learn to respect ALL great players of all teams and not just the ones of your team, then maybe you will get respect from people who have played and have been a fan of the sport for their entire lives!
Adam Graves was a decent player when he was surrounded by Dynasty Oilers! When the Oilers broke apart in NY he became a below average player. He was a forth liner! Built up to be way more than he was by the NY media! His number wasn't hung in Edmonton or San Jose?! Hmmmmmm! 1994 LETS GO REUNITED OILERS!
Brian Leetch was one of the only two Rangers on that team. Richter was the other. So now you can say I don't recall Richter being either an Oiler, Hawk or Russian. But you do recall NYR GM Neil Smith saying he'd Kiss (Edmonton GM) Glenn Sather's ass in Macy's window if the Rangers won the cup (in 1994) right! 1994 LETS GO REUNITED OILERS! NEXT!
Mike Richter speaking at the night of when Mark Messier's #11 being retired on a special night of his jersey number going in the rafters in Madison Square Garden a tearful night as well. The night when the Captain #11 went up into the rafters in the famous arena in New York City, NY!
That Stanley Cup victory was Big for NY even people who weren't Hockey fans, appreciated what The Mess, and Richter and Beukaboom did for the city, it was just great thanks you 94 Rangers!!!
I have to ask why the 1994 Cup meant THIS much to New York City as a whole, including non-hockey fans. Because New York happened to have won four Cups barely more than a decade ago, with the Islanders. Granted, this Cup would have meant more to Rangers' loyalists, sure, but the rest of the city? And while we're at it, New York happened to have won a pair of NBA titles in the 70s, and not to mention the cavalcade of MLB world series by the Yankees (and even a couple more by the Mets in the 80s). Oh, and they just won a pair of Superbowls in 1987 and 1991, just a few years earlier. With all these victories, how is it that the Rangers one victory in 1994 still means that much? It's not like hockey is even the most popular sport in New York - wouldn't baseball, basketball, and football be more popular? Meanwhile, I can tell you that Cup would have meant far more to Vancouver than it ever could to New York. Because, unlike the Rangers, who at least won a couple Cups a distant while ago, the Canucks never won one. Ever. Every time they had a chance, their light gets snuffed out, until their best chance passes you by. Also, unlike the Rangers, the Canucks are the only show in town that actually matters. Sure, they have a football team that won Grey Cups, but the CFL isn't that big of a deal. They now have a soccer team, but it's hardly much of a draw. Hockey is the only one that really matters in Canada. If you take it from them, they'll be cursing you for the rest of your life - nobody's really gotten over 1994 or 2011. In fact, Messier is still cursed to kingdom come in Vancouver - legend has it Lays' chips sell poorly in Vancouver because Messier endorsed it.
I'm from St Louis I'm a blues fan Lived just north of NYC for 5 years.....was never really a rangers fan while there BUT THIS BUT MESS...... WOW WOW WOW IVE WATCHED THIS THING ABOUT 10 TIMES DAMN STRONG
One of the greatest EVER in the history of the game...in my opinion in the top 3-4 of all time......He had the HEART....the GRIT...the PERSONALITY...the Skills ...Mark could Score...Assist...Lead by Example...Fight.....a truly complete player....I was in the building in New Jersey in 1994 when he guaranteed a win...it WAS and STILL is the most miraculous event in NHL history of the last 45 years..
Hey the guy came here to lead the Rangers to a Stanley Cup win and he DELIVERED WHAT MORE CAN YOU SAY EXCEPT HE'S ONE OF THE GREATEST LEADERS IN SPORTS HISTORY PERIOD!
He won the cup with help from 7 of his ex Oiler teammates and also with the help of 6 1992 Finals Blackhawks members! As a Captain he missed the playoffs 8 times in 16 years and won just two cups during that 16 year period! So it looks like Gretz, Potvin, Yzerman, Stevens, Sakic and Liemeux have him beat! I got a bridge for sale Ranger fans!
I cant imagine any of those players leading the Rangers to the cup the ny media would ve eaten their soft asses alive! potvin played in long island and lets face it in ny other than nassau county nobody cared about the islanders lemeieux had his chance put up numbers but couldnt do it gretzky had his chance and couldnt do it yzerman and stevens were only suited to play in the detroit as proven after they left there!! you are off base brother learn hockey then come talk to me that was a weak ass point!!! dont come at me with that weak point!
You said Stevens played in Detroit and you said I don't know hockey. What I said is a pure fact. Look up the 1994 NYR roster and then look up the 1990 Oilers roster and the 1992 Hawks roster and my work is done here. NEXT!!!! 1-2-3 NO NY CUPS IN THIS CENTURY!
I meant federov, but getting back to your point- messier had to teach a young group how to win and slay a ghost that haunted this team for years, no easy task in the biggest media capitol of the world! and since you are bringing up the 94 team ties to the hawks/oilers..brian leetch mike richter kovalev nemchinov zubov ..all young key members developed in the blueshirt system.. heck if thats case than scott stevens (former capitols and blues) went to the devils to win the cup.. the point being every team makes trades to better their team see penguins from last year (phil kessel) i dont know whats your point? My point is great players deliver in great stages thats why he is called OUR CAPTAIN FOREVER!... and others cant do it..ovechkin!!! and here ends the lesson ..Lets Go Rangers!!!! my work is completed and the student has been lectured!!
Can you tell me why a team would dump players like Tony Amonte, Randy Gilhen, John VanBiesbrouck, Tim Kerr, Doug Weight, Mike Gartner, Tony Granato, Tomas Sandstrom, Ulf Dahlen, Brian Mullin, James Patrick, Bernie Nicholls, Mark Hardy, Kelly Kisio, Troy Mallette, Corey Millen, Randy Moller, David Shaw, Mike Janssens, Paul Broten, Rob Zamuner, Kris King, Darren Turcotte, Joe Cirella, Jan Erixon, Per Djoos, Tie Domi, John Ogrodnick, Ray Sheppard all within a three year time period (1992-94)? ----------- Answer: To get the Edmonton Oilers and Chicago Blackhawks to win the cup for N.Y. in 1994! 1-2-3 NEW JERSEY!
I am a Flyers fan, but I have a lot respect for Mark Messier. Anyone who guarantees a victory and delivers is the man. He is the greatest Captain in Rangers history. Besides Mark Recchi, Messier, Joe Sakic and Steve Yzerman are my favorite NHL players during their era. They all played the game they way you are suppose to, as champions. Anyone who doesn't root for someone like Messier has their head clear up their ass. If you don't get goosebumps while watching this ceremony, then you are not a true fan of the game.
Messier will always be a legend as a Ranger forever. The reason why Leetch couldn't make it because he was with the Boston Bruins at the time. He retired that season.
Messier will always be a Oilers to me, that where's he's from that's where he played and most of all that's where he won most of he's cups. Once a Canadian he will always be.🇨🇦
@@kapo2012fb nobody cares about New York either, never won cups there did he. He will always be from Edmonton and he will always be an Oilers no matter what you think.
Devils fans are here to tell the truth. How much cocaine do you think your "great captain" did on this night? Mess missed the playoffs 8 times in his 16 years as a Captain! Mess never made the game 6 "we will win" prediction and never once admitted to doing so! You'll find zero proof of him admitting to it because he never said it. It was a NY Post reporters idea and Messier and NYR gave the ok to run it. The paper came out on the morning the day before the game and there is no follow up comments by messier to it. He stayed far away from reporters on those two days! Mess only past the second round 3 times in 16 years as a captain! Mess missed the playoffs 7 straight times (from 1998 - 2004) as a captain! Mess abused cocaine throughout his entire career! Mess averaged just 14 goals and 43 points a year through his last seven seasons as a captain! Mess and Theo Fleury were cocaine buddies! Mess never won the King Clancy award for leadership! Guess why! ROTFLMAO. HEY DIPSHIT KNOW NOTHING NEW YORKERS! I GOT A BRIDGE FOR SALE! YOU RETARDS GO ALONG WITH WHATEVER BULLSHIT A NY REPORTER STICKS IN YOUR HEAD! 1-2-3 NO COCAINE FOR SCOTTY!
I know that others are saying that Leetch was w/another team and couldn't be there, but just out of curiosity, what about # 25, the late Alexander Karpotsev? The plane crash that he unfortunately was on had not yet happened. Was he too on another team that he was unable to attend like Brian?
Did I flunk math? Elaborate for us Rogersbitch!! Begin with 1941 to 1950 = 10 1951 to 1960 = 10! Now you have 20. 1961 to 1970 = 10! Now you have 30. 1971 to 1980 = 10 Now you have 40. 1981 to 1990 = 10. Now you have 50. 1991 to 2000 = 10. Now you have 60. 2001 to 2010 = 10! Now you have 70. 2011 to 2015 = 5. Now you have 75. You just got taught how to add! DUMB ASS RANGER FAN! DUMB ASS RANGER FAN! DUMB ASS RANGER FAN!
He should've retired with his legs in 1997! Instead he hung around to miss the playoffs in seven straight seasons for the selfish reason to rack up points! Leaders don't miss the playoffs 8 times in 16 years as a Captain! Mario, Stevens, Potvin, Gretz, Yzerman and Sakic didn't! His skills went faster than his hair!
ghytgb That is not Messier’s fault! There was literally no one around him. Meanwhile, Stevens had Niedermayer, White, Eliáš, Daneyko, Brodeur, Lagenbrunner, Rupp, McKay, Albelin, Madden, Brylin, Sykora, etc... And Jágr wasn’t enough either before that argument.
Messier was traded by the Rangers in 1997 because he was done! Muckler was dead set against his return in 2000. Muckler wanted to build a young team and Messier did not fit in. Dolan brought Mess back as a side show act to fill seats. His return was disastrous for New York as he led them to the golf course in four straight seasons. His stint in Vancouver didn't fair well as he led them to the golf course in the three years that he played there!
Messier was a Coke head! When he cleaned up in 96 he led his teams on a seven year golf trip! Mess missed the playoffs 8 times in 16 years as a captain and won just two cups in two finals appearances. He never won the Lester B Patrick award for leadership. He was booed out of Vancouver because he disrespectfully wore Wayne Maki's #11 jersey going against Maki's family protest not to. Wayne Maki died at age 29 of brain cancer. What a selfish scumbag prick Messier is. Enjoy being told by the NY media that he's the greatest captain ever. If that helps erase what Potvin (4 cups in 5 finals) and Stevens (3 cups in 4 finals) accomplished than go ahead and take your NY media brainwashing medicine. ROTFLMAO. Captains Toews and Drew Doughty have already accomplished more than Captain Cokehead! 1-2-3 SCOTTY! CAPTAIN COKE WAS A JOKE!
Can you tell me why a team would dump players like Tony Amonte, Randy Gilhen, John VanBiesbrouck, Tim Kerr, Doug Weight, Mike Gartner, Tony Granato, Tomas Sandstrom, Ulf Dahlen, Brian Mullin, James Patrick, Bernie Nicholls, Mark Hardy, Kelly Kisio, Troy Mallette, Corey Millen, Randy Moller, David Shaw, Mike Janssens, Paul Broten, Rob Zamuner, Kris King, Darren Turcotte, Joe Cirella, Jan Erixon, Per Djoos, Tie Domi, John Ogrodnick, Ray Sheppard all within a three year time period? ----------- Answer: To get the Edmonton Oilers and Chicago Blackhawks to win the cup for N.Y. in 1994!
always found it very unprofessional that Lowe and McTavish, who were on the 1994 Rangers team choose not to join with the rest of the 1994 Rangers players honouring Messier that night....
Stevens had 3 Cups with the Devils, and was the anchor of our team. Probably the best defender I have ever seen in my lifetime. Messier won one cup with the Rangers, he is not even a ranger. In my mind, the rabid Ranger fanbase will always claim him through just because of the guarantee. The Rangers will always suck and play second fiddle to the Devils much like the Yankees and Mets. Most importantly Devils fans are hardcore, the rangers fanbase although larger does not have as many diehards.
I guess messier never played for the Rangers then. One Stanley cup with NY doesn't mean anything then. It's really sad you came here to say that. Messier said he would bring the Stanley Cup to New York and that's what he did. He is the captain and there will never anything quite like the 1994 Stanley cup finals. Stevens will never be Messier and that's it. Comparing the Rangers and the Devils to the Yankees and mets doesn't make any sense. The Rangers drive to win it all is just something you'll never understand and I'm sorry for you.
To say the Ranger fans aren't die hard fans, you know nothing about hockey! Secondly,,to compare the Devils & Rangers to the Mets & Yankees is ridiculous!
He was great and I respect him as a player. But let's be honest here, Scott Stevens was a far better captain. 3 Stanley Cups, and he was the guy that got everyone fired up on the ice. Plus the Devils had no locker room trouble because everyone knew it would get back to Stevens.
It took 8 ex Dynasty Oilers players / 6 ex 1992 Finals Hawk players / 4 Russians and just two Rangers (Leetch and Richter) to win the cup in 94. There's a video from 1992 of Mess saying he believes this team is gonna go to the Finals. MSG plays that clip a lot during 1994 cup celebrations but it's a fact that there were only four or five players left from that 1992 team that went on to win the cup. The rest were traded for Oilers and Blackhawks! 1994 LETS GO REUNITED OILERS! 1-2-3 NEW JERSEY!
You said the Devils were the best franchise and thats not true. Its clearly Detroit. There is no argument. And no Im not a Rangers fan so I dont know who youre preaching to in those last few sentences.
The Gaming orange But the best moment in NY history. After the 93 Bombing we struggled to find our place and he and his team put smiles on everyone in NY.
Uhhh... Detroit and NJ are 1 and 2 in the past twenty years. Don't you remember the Devs sweeping Detroit in 95? Either way the Pens, Wings, and Devs hav been the top 3 franchises for the last twenty years. We have been to 5 god damn Stanley Cups since 94. The rangers have not been to the cup or won since 94. Thjats pretty damn pathetic. How can you even argue that the Rangers are a better franchise then the Devs. We win, you lose, its as simple as that.
In the NHL, the Montreal Canadians have the best franchise. Behind the team with the most Stanley Cups should be the team with the biggest fan base which is still the Canadians, but adding in that they have a huge market as well, the Chicago Blackhawks take 2nd. Detroit has had many cups in recent years but they are in no way the best franchise. I am being non-bias and if you have a reason to deny me, please state it because I want to correct this if its wrong.
I do have to laugh that Stevens is a better captain than Messier. Respectfully, I disagree with that statement... even though I cannot stand Messier one iota. Even from an objective point, I think Gretzky is being slighted, put behind Mess for greatest captain.
Best player of all time? Gretzky, hands down. Best Captain? Hard to argue against Messier. Messier asked for a trade to a very questionable organization in NYR at the time, a team that generally underperformed when it mattered most, and a revolving door of coaching staffs. Messier won his first 4 cups with Gretzky as the captain, but when Gretzky left and most people wrote off the Oilers like they were this years Miami Heat without Lebron James, Messier took over, wins the cup again WHILE collecting the Hart Trophy. (Winning the Hart Trophy and then the cup shows you this guy wanted to prove to his team they could win without Gretzky) When Gretzky got to LA, He never got them a cup win. Messier took over NYR and won the cup, he's the only captain to ever do that as the captain of 2 teams. Add in the Guarantee, and the behind the scenes stuff (He pretty much held the team together with all of Mike Keenan's antics, especially with the goalie pulling and Leetch benching) and he's undoubtedly the best captain of all time. Not too many leaders like that dude. Remember, every cup Gretzky won was on a team that didn't need him to win them (proof was when Messier took Edmonton to the cup and won it in 1990) The same cannot be said for the teams Messier played for (1994 NYR don't even get near a cup without Messier, neither do the 1990 oilers.)
Mess with Edmonton = Great Player / Mess after Edmonton = Great Golfer! As the great captain, that you have been force fed by the media, he missed the playoffs 8 times in 16 years! Got past the second round just three times! He needed 7 ex Oiler team mates and 6 Blackhawks to help him win the cup on 1994! He never led the Rangers to the cup! There were only three Rangers (Leetch Nemchinov Richter) on the team up till 1994! The rest of them got dumped to bring players in to win the cup for NY! If you don't believe it just look it up!
@@petermccormack2525 Think about it. What made Gretzky the best player in the first place? He didn't get over 2800 points on his individual efforts - he'd involved his teammates more than anyone else. Was he piggy-backing? If so, he deserves no recognition for being best player. Or, was he simply the best leader on the ice? And while we're at it, who was the face of the league? Who was more respected, even by his opponents? Who was bringing the best out of his teammates, and his opponents? Time and again, Gretzky outdoes Messier here. Sure, Messier won two cups without Gretzky. But keep in mind, he won the 1990 cup with all the guys returning from the Gretzky trade, one of whom later went to New York, played a large role in that win. And compare 1994 Rangers and 1993 Kings outside of Mess or Gretz. No contest, Rangers had the better team, Mess had more to work with. One more thing, Gretzky did have a hand in Messier's growth as a leader.
His skills and legs retired in 1997. He hung around 8 years too long to rack up points while leading his teams to the golf course (7 straight years) in the process! Captain of just two cup teams! Yzerman and Stevens won 3 as Captain! Gretz and Potvin did it 4 times! Mess left the game with his tired ass tail between his legs!
Messier was without a doubt the most selfish player in NHL history. Instead of retiring he hung around just to rack up points. Your so called "Greatest Captain" won two cups as a captain, missed the playoffs 8 out of 16 years as a captain and got his teams past the 2nd round just three times during those 16 years! Looks to me like we can call Gretz, Potvin, Sakic, Mario and Yzerman the Greatest Greatest Captains ever! Who's NEEEEEXT!
No dildo he only led the Oilers to 1 Cup in 1990 but when 7 Oilers joined him in NY he was then able to "Lead" the Rangers / Oilers / Hawks to the cup! As a "leader" he missed the playoffs 8 times in 16 years! As a "leader" he missed the playoffs 7 straight times from 1998 to 2004! As a "leader" he only got to the finals 2 times and past the 2nd round 4 times! As a "leader" he should've retired in 1997 when his legs did but instead he hung around for seven years to rack up an average of 45 points a year! He was a leader but he was a poor leader! 1994 LETS GO REUNITED OILERS!
1st dude. Messier was a great player into the 2000's!!! That's hilarious! He averaged 43 points a year from 1998 - 2004 and missed the playoffs (as Captain) each year! You call that great?! 2nd I don't follow what you do. If I did I'd be marching in the gay parade every year! 3rd I'll talk all the shit I want about whoever I want! MESSIER WAS A FLAT OUT COKE HEAD AND ONE OF THE DIRTIEST CHEAPEST PLAYERS EVER! HE HUNG AROUND SEVEN YEARS TOO LONG JUST TO RACK UP POINTS WHILE HOLDING HIS TEAMS DOWN. SELFISH PRICK! AS A CAPTAIN HE MISSED THE PLAYOFFS 8 TIMES IN 16 SEASONS! THAT SUCKS!
Not miserable dude. Telling it like it is! Keep bowing down to Captain Coke head! This dirtbag threw elbows to the head for fun, giving concussions out like candy! Fuck him!
I got an even better one! Too bad only 6,000 fans got to see the Rangers organization disrespectfully retire Howell and Bathgate together! Talk about killing two old birds with one stone! Forty something years later and together! Total disrespect! New Jersey would never humiliate their ex players like that!
That showed that he stands alone. It was set up by the NHL to show the highest respect that any player could ever receive. An amazing gesture by the NHL! It's just sad that the NHL had to force the Ranger organization to show respect for Howell and Bathgate. The tragedy was that the Rangers felt they didn't deserve the respect to have individual ceremonies! NYR failed!
Haha You Rangers fans are pathetic. The Devils have been the best organization in hockey for the last twenty years. The Rags haven't even been to the cup since they won in 94. Meanwhile we have been to 5 and won 3. I'll shut my mouth when the Rangers win another cup, but the Devils will probably add another one before the Rangers even make it to one.
We won 3 and been to 5 since 94. Not only that but we knocked out your best team since 94 in 2011? Your franchise is pathetic, we have only been in the league since 1982 and we are a far better franchise.
Well, technically, you've been in the league since 1969, idk how old you are, but the Colorado Rockies & Kansas City Scouts were the Devils before they were the Devils
ny rangers 4 cups in 100 years lol the first 3 basically a mens beer league tournament the other one bought with rent a players and their franchise player who they worship will be remembered more for being an oiler than a ranger lol if you think about it rangers have a pathetic history
Captain Coke or what dumb New Yorkers refer to him as "the Messiah" is the Lance Armstrong of hockey! In 1996 he was told to get his act together and by Sather and he did straighten out but as everyone knows he was no where near the player he was when he was using coke as he led his teams to the golf course from 1998 to 2004! During this time he put up below average numbers (45 points a year) and kept his team down while selfishly accumulating points to surpass Gordie Howe. His skills went faster than his hair!
On his way to this ceremony Messier elbowed his mother while she was adjusting his tie, the doorman, limo driver, Madonna and a homeless guy that got in his way at the entrance of the Garden.
Then Claude Provist is a better player than Mess because he won 9 cups. Thanks for agreeing that Marty is better than Giocomin, Richter and Lundqvist combined because he won more cups than all of them. Crawford is better than a Lundqvist because he won the cup twice. Murray is better than Giocomin. Trottier is equal as a player to Mess because he has six cups. Mess when surrounded by his Dynasty Oiler teammates = Great player / Mess without his Dynasty Oiler teammates = Great Golfer!
As Mark comes out you can see cocaine under his left nostril! The coke caught up with him in the end and it's why he wasn't able to skate well, score, pass and take hits. During his last seven years he was a shell of the player that he was (averaging 43 points during each of his last seven years) when he was surrounded by Hall of Famers on a Dynasty team. Messier on coke with the Dynasty Oilers = Good player. |||| Mess on coke and not surrounded by a great Dynasty team = Great Golfer!
Man, i'm not even that big of a hockey fan but Messier is a one of a kind. Barely ever mentioned himself when the night was all about him, it was about the team, fans and staff. Classy guy.
This brave woman sang this great at song at 1:04:00 in....she was the widow of Christopher Reeve. She belted out this song with lung cancer, and only lived another 7 weeks. God Bless her.
+WJ Fennelly And she was only 44 years old.
it was a beautiful moment
Mark Messier #11, forever a New York Ranger!
She was amazing. God Bless her...Now and Forever.
Yes GOD BLESS HER
The one thing that stands out for me is Mark Messier played with so much passion and love for the game. How can you not root for someone like that?
As a Devils fan I do respect Messier, he ended a 54 year title drought and is the greatest captain in the 90 year history of the Rangers.
He missed the playoffs 5 times in 10 years in ny and passed the 2nd round just two times with help from Gretz! Do you really think that's great? Pfffffffff! 1-2-3 NO COCAINE FOR SCOTTY!
@@ghytgb whata doosh! suck on his 6 cups
@@ghytgb pussy
@@ghytgb 6 cups bitch .
Not to be an A-hole, but the Rangers are already halfway through another 54 year drought that Mark Messier ended.
This makes me emotional I really wish I was born and old enough to see the 1993-1994 New York Rangers Team
Hitlers dog was alive for 15 years when the Rangers won their first three cups. Your great grandfather is going on 80 years old and witnessed just two NYR cups! Get used to it!
The greatest Captain that ever played the game!
No doubt! Rangers and Oilers fans can both attest to that.
You're talking about the great high-elbow cheap shotting Messier?
@@joshhutchison6201 YUP he has thrown a couple of those ... but so did Howe ...whats your point ... Messier is without a doubt the best Captain i have seen in my 50yrs ... and in my opinion he is the best all round hockey player ever ... and i put him maybe 5th best player to play ...behind Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux, and Howe
The Moose
Jagr is the most skilled player ever.
NY retired his number before Edmonton did. His cup win in 94 did a lot for NY. A year after the first word trade center bombing... NY's were still trying to re build itself. 1940 was a long time ago. Before USA got involved in WWII. He helped rebuild faith in NY and faith in the rangers. He brought back something to NY that unless you're a rangers fan you wouldn't understand.
ClearVue I wasn’t born that year. As a Ranger fan it almost feels like 94. One day we will hoist the cup. For now I’m growing up with another NY legend. Henrik Lundqvist.
That's exactly what my Dad said about the 94 Rangers Cup. It not only gave the Rangers fans hope, but to believe anything is possible. Even influenced other teams to have hope to win the Cup themselves
@@parkerbeard6170 Most fans aren't satisfied with just one Cup, but the vibe I get is that it doesn't matter how long ago 1994 was, they have not gotten over that win.
About New York retiring Messier's number before Edmonton, remember that Edmonton has a policy of only retiring numbers for Hall of Famers. But it's true, his one Cup with New York meant more to the Rangers than any of his five Cups with Edmonton.
@@broadstreet21 Blues fan here, definitely satisfied with just one, if nothing else ever happens. I 100% wouldn’t be a hockey fan if not for Messier, Graves, Leetch, and Richter
Now that's how you celebrate a hero!
I was there that night. The Moose is easily my favorite athlete of all time. Great player, great leader, and great person.
Finally!! I was there that night and gave up looking for a version that didn't edit out that it took like a full min for Messier to come out after announced. Knowing him he was probably sobbing his eyes out and trying to get a hold of himself but it made it even better. We were all like 'where is he? They told him the right date right?" and then the door opens up and there he is! everyone goes crazy.
It was obvious when he walked out that he had been crying before also that he was tearing up the entire way out and couldn’t even look at the players as he walked out. One more thing to love about him.
I was fortunate to be here on this night. I cried the entire time. I’m crying now while typing this out. Mark Messier is my favorite athlete of all time. Mark Messier, Mike Piazza and Curtis Martin. 3 Classy Hofer’s.
Greatest legend in hockey history.MESSIER!
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Top 5, I don’t think greatest
I will never forget Dana Reeve singing only to die from cancer a few years later. So unfair, but at least she is with her husband Christopher in heaven. RIP
She died two months later, March 6, 2006.
Correct less than 2 more later on my bday. I’ll always remember
but the way Gravey came over to give Mess the hug after Brian's tape. Speaks to the affection they had for each other.
Graves was an average player! Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie do more charity work than he does and you don't see a bullshit ceremony for them. Fan favorite but just another average player.
ghytgb If You think Grave was an average player, then that proves you are a total ass!, and have no respect or knowledge of the sport! you should learn to respect ALL great players of all teams and not just the ones of your team, then maybe you will get respect from people who have played and have been a fan of the sport for their entire lives!
Adam Graves was a decent player when he was surrounded by Dynasty Oilers! When the Oilers broke apart in NY he became a below average player. He was a forth liner! Built up to be way more than he was by the NY media! His number wasn't hung in Edmonton or San Jose?! Hmmmmmm! 1994 LETS GO REUNITED OILERS!
I don't recall the Conn Smythe winner, Brian Leetch being an Oiler
Brian Leetch was one of the only two Rangers on that team. Richter was the other. So now you can say I don't recall Richter being either an Oiler, Hawk or Russian. But you do recall NYR GM Neil Smith saying he'd Kiss (Edmonton GM) Glenn Sather's ass in Macy's window if the Rangers won the cup (in 1994) right! 1994 LETS GO REUNITED OILERS! NEXT!
Mike Richter speaking at the night of when Mark Messier's #11 being retired on a special night of his jersey number going in the rafters in Madison Square Garden a tearful night as well. The night when the Captain #11 went up into the rafters in the famous arena in New York City, NY!
Lives forever in our hearts. One of the great❤️
thank you for uploading it! the greatest captain ever!!
That Stanley Cup victory was Big for NY even people who weren't Hockey fans, appreciated what The Mess, and Richter and Beukaboom did for the city, it was just great thanks you 94 Rangers!!!
I have to ask why the 1994 Cup meant THIS much to New York City as a whole, including non-hockey fans. Because New York happened to have won four Cups barely more than a decade ago, with the Islanders. Granted, this Cup would have meant more to Rangers' loyalists, sure, but the rest of the city?
And while we're at it, New York happened to have won a pair of NBA titles in the 70s, and not to mention the cavalcade of MLB world series by the Yankees (and even a couple more by the Mets in the 80s). Oh, and they just won a pair of Superbowls in 1987 and 1991, just a few years earlier.
With all these victories, how is it that the Rangers one victory in 1994 still means that much? It's not like hockey is even the most popular sport in New York - wouldn't baseball, basketball, and football be more popular?
Meanwhile, I can tell you that Cup would have meant far more to Vancouver than it ever could to New York. Because, unlike the Rangers, who at least won a couple Cups a distant while ago, the Canucks never won one. Ever. Every time they had a chance, their light gets snuffed out, until their best chance passes you by. Also, unlike the Rangers, the Canucks are the only show in town that actually matters. Sure, they have a football team that won Grey Cups, but the CFL isn't that big of a deal. They now have a soccer team, but it's hardly much of a draw. Hockey is the only one that really matters in Canada. If you take it from them, they'll be cursing you for the rest of your life - nobody's really gotten over 1994 or 2011. In fact, Messier is still cursed to kingdom come in Vancouver - legend has it Lays' chips sell poorly in Vancouver because Messier endorsed it.
the nhl is so pussified now days there are no more Messiers,or Graves,just a bunch of skill boys ,that bore you to death
Truth for sure. Cant stand the soft play today some of the calls horrible
you would be hard pressed to find a city so affected by an athlete and have that athlete so affected by a city!
this man saved my life
I'm from St Louis
I'm a blues fan
Lived just north of NYC for 5 years.....was never really a rangers fan while there
BUT THIS
BUT MESS......
WOW WOW WOW
IVE WATCHED THIS THING ABOUT 10 TIMES
DAMN STRONG
Gravey having Mess's back again... the hug he needed after Brian's taped congrats!
Gravey?
One of the greatest EVER in the history of the game...in my opinion in the top 3-4 of all time......He had the HEART....the GRIT...the PERSONALITY...the Skills ...Mark could Score...Assist...Lead by Example...Fight.....a truly complete player....I was in the building in New Jersey in 1994 when he guaranteed a win...it WAS and STILL is the most miraculous event in NHL history of the last 45
years..
THIS BROUGHT SO MANY TEARS!!!!!!!! LOVE LOVE LOVE HIM
I am a devils fan and have a lot of respect for Mark. I know he scored a hat trick game 6 in 1994 he was just doing his job
Hey the guy came here to lead the Rangers to a Stanley Cup win and he DELIVERED WHAT MORE CAN YOU SAY EXCEPT HE'S ONE OF THE GREATEST LEADERS IN SPORTS HISTORY PERIOD!
He won the cup with help from 7 of his ex Oiler teammates and also with the help of 6 1992 Finals Blackhawks members! As a Captain he missed the playoffs 8 times in 16 years and won just two cups during that 16 year period! So it looks like Gretz, Potvin, Yzerman, Stevens, Sakic and Liemeux have him beat! I got a bridge for sale Ranger fans!
I cant imagine any of those players leading the Rangers to the cup the ny media would ve eaten their soft asses alive! potvin played in long island and lets face it in ny other than nassau county nobody cared about the islanders lemeieux had his chance put up numbers but couldnt do it gretzky had his chance and couldnt do it yzerman and stevens were only suited to play in the detroit as proven after they left there!! you are off base brother learn hockey then come talk to me that was a weak ass point!!! dont come at me with that weak point!
You said Stevens played in Detroit and you said I don't know hockey. What I said is a pure fact. Look up the 1994 NYR roster and then look up the 1990 Oilers roster and the 1992 Hawks roster and my work is done here. NEXT!!!! 1-2-3 NO NY CUPS IN THIS CENTURY!
I meant federov, but getting back to your point- messier had to teach a young group how to win and slay a ghost that haunted this team for years, no easy task in the biggest media capitol of the world! and since you are bringing up the 94 team ties to the hawks/oilers..brian leetch mike richter kovalev nemchinov zubov ..all young key members developed in the blueshirt system.. heck if thats case than scott stevens (former capitols and blues) went to the devils to win the cup.. the point being every team makes trades to better their team see penguins from last year (phil kessel) i dont know whats your point? My point is great players deliver in great stages thats why he is called OUR CAPTAIN FOREVER!... and others cant do it..ovechkin!!! and here ends the lesson ..Lets Go Rangers!!!! my work is completed and the student has been lectured!!
Can you tell me why a team would dump players like Tony Amonte, Randy Gilhen, John VanBiesbrouck, Tim Kerr, Doug Weight, Mike Gartner, Tony Granato, Tomas Sandstrom, Ulf Dahlen, Brian Mullin, James Patrick, Bernie Nicholls, Mark Hardy, Kelly Kisio, Troy Mallette, Corey Millen, Randy Moller, David Shaw, Mike Janssens, Paul Broten, Rob Zamuner, Kris King, Darren Turcotte, Joe Cirella, Jan Erixon, Per Djoos, Tie Domi, John Ogrodnick, Ray Sheppard all within a three year time period (1992-94)? ----------- Answer: To get the Edmonton Oilers and Chicago Blackhawks to win the cup for N.Y. in 1994! 1-2-3 NEW JERSEY!
The crowd booed messier at the start of the 93-94 season, true story
Didn't get to go to the garden in 94.. except for a Neil diamond concert.. but feel lucky to have been there that night.
I am a Flyers fan, but I have a lot respect for Mark Messier. Anyone who guarantees a victory and delivers is the man. He is the greatest Captain in Rangers history. Besides Mark Recchi, Messier, Joe Sakic and Steve Yzerman are my favorite NHL players during their era. They all played the game they way you are suppose to, as champions. Anyone who doesn't root for someone like Messier has their head clear up their ass. If you don't get goosebumps while watching this ceremony, then you are not a true fan of the game.
I agree as a devils fan mark messier Scott stevens Eric lindrous Steve Yzerman Mike bossy great players
Whenever I picture Mark Messier he is wearing an Edmonton Oilers jersey.
for sure born an raised
Yes, that I can understand, but at the same time, he only played 1 more season in Edmonton than he did in New York.
Too many people forgot when their parents told them if you have nothing good to say then don't say anything at all.
Your mom said that cuz she had a sexually dirty past!
The MESSIAH!
THEN
NOW
FOREVER!!!
jesus im crying be4 he said a word. Long live the CAPTAIN. Ranger nation loves you.
i thought i was alone...before he even spoke...
ur never alone my brother
RANGERS SUCK!
Touching.
HE WALKS OUT TO MY FAVORITE SONG EVER
how nice of Lord Stanley to come for Messier's retirement :)
Messier will always be a legend as a Ranger forever. The reason why Leetch couldn't make it because he was with the Boston Bruins at the time. He retired that season.
OH BABY!!!
Messier will always be a Oilers to me, that where's he's from that's where he played and most of all that's where he won most of he's cups. Once a Canadian he will always be.🇨🇦
He's more known for his time here tho.. nobody cares about edmonton.. mf this is NEWYORKCITY
@@kapo2012fb nobody cares about New York either, never won cups there did he. He will always be from Edmonton and he will always be an Oilers no matter what you think.
@@cindyrussell1581 you gotta be stupid lol
nothing quite like the bonds formed in the locker room of a hockey team. NOTHING
We were talking about the last two decades of Hockey. In the last two decades the best two franchises are without a doubt Detroit and New Jersey.
Anyone else notice how many ex Edmonton Oilers were part of that NYR cup winning team....
So true !!
Messier, New York forever
Why are the devils fans here? you don't see me sitting down watching old videos of scott stevens elbowing people in the head.
You can't find any that's why! 1-2-3 CUPS FOR CAPTAIN SCOTTY (not 2)!
Devils fans are here to tell the truth. How much cocaine do you think your "great captain" did on this night? Mess missed the playoffs 8 times in his 16 years as a Captain! Mess never made the game 6 "we will win" prediction and never once admitted to doing so! You'll find zero proof of him admitting to it because he never said it. It was a NY Post reporters idea and Messier and NYR gave the ok to run it. The paper came out on the morning the day before the game and there is no follow up comments by messier to it. He stayed far away from reporters on those two days! Mess only past the second round 3 times in 16 years as a captain! Mess missed the playoffs 7 straight times (from 1998 - 2004) as a captain! Mess abused cocaine throughout his entire career! Mess averaged just 14 goals and 43 points a year through his last seven seasons as a captain! Mess and Theo Fleury were cocaine buddies! Mess never won the King Clancy award for leadership! Guess why! ROTFLMAO. HEY DIPSHIT KNOW NOTHING NEW YORKERS! I GOT A BRIDGE FOR SALE! YOU RETARDS GO ALONG WITH WHATEVER BULLSHIT A NY REPORTER STICKS IN YOUR HEAD! 1-2-3 NO COCAINE FOR SCOTTY!
ghytgb stfu
Mark should be the head coach of the Rangers , plain and simple
agree
a legend in edmonton
Modern day Gordie Howe great player. Have his rookie card sadley not in greatest shape.
only the great one has more
with mark messier as the captain of the new York rangers the vancover canucks had no chance!
The series went to seven games you dope!
ghytgb And Vancouver still lost....dope!
What about a dirty sanchez!
MSG= Messier Sucks Graves!
With Messier as Captain of the Canucks the Canucks had no chance of making the playoffs!
Anyone notice some peopel missing? Where was Zubov and Nedved in the team introduction? Mike Gartner? Brian Leetch? Anyone?...
Gartner was traded, Nedved was not yet a Ranger, Zubov was playing, and Leetch was on the scoreboard.
Thanks for solving that mystery for me. Hard to believe it was so long ago...
I know that others are saying that Leetch was w/another team and couldn't be there, but just out of curiosity, what about # 25, the late Alexander Karpotsev? The plane crash that he unfortunately was on had not yet happened. Was he too on another team that he was unable to attend like Brian?
Did I flunk math? Elaborate for us Rogersbitch!! Begin with 1941 to 1950 = 10 1951 to 1960 = 10! Now you have 20. 1961 to 1970 = 10! Now you have 30. 1971 to 1980 = 10 Now you have 40. 1981 to 1990 = 10. Now you have 50. 1991 to 2000 = 10. Now you have 60. 2001 to 2010 = 10! Now you have 70. 2011 to 2015 = 5. Now you have 75. You just got taught how to add! DUMB ASS RANGER FAN! DUMB ASS RANGER FAN! DUMB ASS RANGER FAN!
He's the first pick for my team to build around. The Moose
Where was 99 ???
I honestly wonder who loves him more, Oilers or Rangers fans.
Captain Fantastic
Best part his ability to play outside the rules 33:30.
He should've retired with his legs in 1997! Instead he hung around to miss the playoffs in seven straight seasons for the selfish reason to rack up points! Leaders don't miss the playoffs 8 times in 16 years as a Captain! Mario, Stevens, Potvin, Gretz, Yzerman and Sakic didn't! His skills went faster than his hair!
ghytgb That is not Messier’s fault! There was literally no one around him. Meanwhile, Stevens had Niedermayer, White, Eliáš, Daneyko, Brodeur, Lagenbrunner, Rupp, McKay, Albelin, Madden, Brylin, Sykora, etc... And Jágr wasn’t enough either before that argument.
I just have 1 question , if your a devils fan why the hell are you commenting on the rangers video? Come on guys worry about your own team
Messier was traded by the Rangers in 1997 because he was done! Muckler was dead set against his return in 2000. Muckler wanted to build a young team and Messier did not fit in. Dolan brought Mess back as a side show act to fill seats. His return was disastrous for New York as he led them to the golf course in four straight seasons. His stint in Vancouver didn't fair well as he led them to the golf course in the three years that he played there!
+ghytgb That's ok. After 1994, Messier had a pass to do whatever he wished.
He chose to continue doing Coke and work on his golf game.
@@amazinmets8439 New York was too easily sated. No other fan base would just settle for just one.
The next morning there was a new designer suit Darren's size hanging in his locker 45:40.
How do the rangers get to claim messier ? Hes n oiler
Where was #2, Brian Leetch?
He was still playing at the time with Boston, he retired after the season
The greatest captain in the history of sports!
Hi...
I'M HOWIE ROSE!
The Eddie.chants forever in Madison square garden
Alright Mess!
Messier was a Coke head! When he cleaned up in 96 he led his teams on a seven year golf trip! Mess missed the playoffs 8 times in 16 years as a captain and won just two cups in two finals appearances. He never won the Lester B Patrick award for leadership. He was booed out of Vancouver because he disrespectfully wore Wayne Maki's #11 jersey going against Maki's family protest not to. Wayne Maki died at age 29 of brain cancer. What a selfish scumbag prick Messier is. Enjoy being told by the NY media that he's the greatest captain ever. If that helps erase what Potvin (4 cups in 5 finals) and Stevens (3 cups in 4 finals) accomplished than go ahead and take your NY media brainwashing medicine. ROTFLMAO. Captains Toews and Drew Doughty have already accomplished more than Captain Cokehead! 1-2-3 SCOTTY! CAPTAIN COKE WAS A JOKE!
Why did the Rangers retire his number? He won 5 Cups with the Oilers.
Winning 1 cup in NY who haven’t seen a cup in 54 yrs is enough to hav ur number retired
He spent 10 years in New York & was the savior who brought the cup back to the Garden! That's more than enough for the honor!!
Can you tell me why a team would dump players like Tony Amonte, Randy Gilhen, John VanBiesbrouck, Tim Kerr, Doug Weight, Mike Gartner, Tony Granato, Tomas Sandstrom, Ulf Dahlen, Brian Mullin, James Patrick, Bernie Nicholls, Mark Hardy, Kelly Kisio, Troy Mallette, Corey Millen, Randy Moller, David Shaw, Mike Janssens, Paul Broten, Rob Zamuner, Kris King, Darren Turcotte, Joe Cirella, Jan Erixon, Per Djoos, Tie Domi, John Ogrodnick, Ray Sheppard all within a three year time period? ----------- Answer: To get the Edmonton Oilers and Chicago Blackhawks to win the cup for N.Y. in 1994!
Why did John Davidson get booed?
wasn`t booed; it was for Beaukeboom
ahh of course.
0:00 before the sirius merger...
One day i will be at that game. The game where henrik and callahan will get thier number in the rafters of MSG
NYR ONDEMAND sorry bud. Not happening for Cally
Fuck Callahan
Did u go to henriks?
always found it very unprofessional that Lowe and McTavish, who were on the 1994 Rangers team choose not to join with the rest of the 1994 Rangers players honouring Messier that night....
The curse of the Rangers next cup! Messier raising the cup on his retirement. Only another 34 years Ranger fans!
#RESPEC11
59:10 Lundqvist
Stevens had 3 Cups with the Devils, and was the anchor of our team. Probably the best defender I have ever seen in my lifetime. Messier won one cup with the Rangers, he is not even a ranger. In my mind, the rabid Ranger fanbase will always claim him through just because of the guarantee. The Rangers will always suck and play second fiddle to the Devils much like the Yankees and Mets. Most importantly Devils fans are hardcore, the rangers fanbase although larger does not have as many diehards.
I guess messier never played for the Rangers then. One Stanley cup with NY doesn't mean anything then. It's really sad you came here to say that. Messier said he would bring the Stanley Cup to New York and that's what he did. He is the captain and there will never anything quite like the 1994 Stanley cup finals. Stevens will never be Messier and that's it. Comparing the Rangers and the Devils to the Yankees and mets doesn't make any sense. The Rangers drive to win it all is just something you'll never understand and I'm sorry for you.
To say the Ranger fans aren't die hard fans, you know nothing about hockey! Secondly,,to compare the Devils & Rangers to the Mets & Yankees is ridiculous!
He was great and I respect him as a player. But let's be honest here, Scott Stevens was a far better captain. 3 Stanley Cups, and he was the guy that got everyone fired up on the ice. Plus the Devils had no locker room trouble because everyone knew it would get back to Stevens.
..you do know Messier still has more, right?
Go back under your rock in Newark.
58:15 voice crack
It took 8 ex Dynasty Oilers players / 6 ex 1992 Finals Hawk players / 4 Russians and just two Rangers (Leetch and Richter) to win the cup in 94. There's a video from 1992 of Mess saying he believes this team is gonna go to the Finals. MSG plays that clip a lot during 1994 cup celebrations but it's a fact that there were only four or five players left from that 1992 team that went on to win the cup. The rest were traded for Oilers and Blackhawks! 1994 LETS GO REUNITED OILERS! 1-2-3 NEW JERSEY!
You said the Devils were the best franchise and thats not true. Its clearly Detroit. There is no argument. And no Im not a Rangers fan so I dont know who youre preaching to in those last few sentences.
Great player but did nothing in Vancouver
Thank the stupid rangers management for sending him there, completely classless
1994 was a long time ago
The Gaming orange But the best moment in NY history. After the 93 Bombing we struggled to find our place and he and his team put smiles on everyone in NY.
Uhhh... Detroit and NJ are 1 and 2 in the past twenty years. Don't you remember the Devs sweeping Detroit in 95? Either way the Pens, Wings, and Devs hav been the top 3 franchises for the last twenty years. We have been to 5 god damn Stanley Cups since 94. The rangers have not been to the cup or won since 94. Thjats pretty damn pathetic. How can you even argue that the Rangers are a better franchise then the Devs. We win, you lose, its as simple as that.
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Kypreos dirty
"The Devils have been the best organization in hockey for the last twenty years"
Uh Detroit???
In the NHL, the Montreal Canadians have the best franchise. Behind the team with the most Stanley Cups should be the team with the biggest fan base which is still the Canadians, but adding in that they have a huge market as well, the Chicago Blackhawks take 2nd. Detroit has had many cups in recent years but they are in no way the best franchise. I am being non-bias and if you have a reason to deny me, please state it because I want to correct this if its wrong.
Well, Montreal has the most Cups with 24, Toronto is next with 13( none since 1967), then the Red Wings next with 11. The Blackhawks are at 6
leetch?
Leetch was playing for Boston for that night so couldn't make it.
oh my b
I do have to laugh that Stevens is a better captain than Messier. Respectfully, I disagree with that statement... even though I cannot stand Messier one iota.
Even from an objective point, I think Gretzky is being slighted, put behind Mess for greatest captain.
Best player of all time? Gretzky, hands down. Best Captain? Hard to argue against Messier. Messier asked for a trade to a very questionable organization in NYR at the time, a team that generally underperformed when it mattered most, and a revolving door of coaching staffs. Messier won his first 4 cups with Gretzky as the captain, but when Gretzky left and most people wrote off the Oilers like they were this years Miami Heat without Lebron James, Messier took over, wins the cup again WHILE collecting the Hart Trophy. (Winning the Hart Trophy and then the cup shows you this guy wanted to prove to his team they could win without Gretzky) When Gretzky got to LA, He never got them a cup win. Messier took over NYR and won the cup, he's the only captain to ever do that as the captain of 2 teams. Add in the Guarantee, and the behind the scenes stuff (He pretty much held the team together with all of Mike Keenan's antics, especially with the goalie pulling and Leetch benching) and he's undoubtedly the best captain of all time. Not too many leaders like that dude. Remember, every cup Gretzky won was on a team that didn't need him to win them (proof was when Messier took Edmonton to the cup and won it in 1990) The same cannot be said for the teams Messier played for (1994 NYR don't even get near a cup without Messier, neither do the 1990 oilers.)
Mess with Edmonton = Great Player / Mess after Edmonton = Great Golfer! As the great captain, that you have been force fed by the media, he missed the playoffs 8 times in 16 years! Got past the second round just three times! He needed 7 ex Oiler team mates and 6 Blackhawks to help him win the cup on 1994! He never led the Rangers to the cup! There were only three Rangers (Leetch Nemchinov Richter) on the team up till 1994! The rest of them got dumped to bring players in to win the cup for NY! If you don't believe it just look it up!
Messier is the only player in all professional sports to earn the name The Captain . Period.
There era that your talking belong to
Steve Yserman Hands Down, think about it.
PS, not a wings fan.
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@@petermccormack2525 Think about it. What made Gretzky the best player in the first place? He didn't get over 2800 points on his individual efforts - he'd involved his teammates more than anyone else. Was he piggy-backing? If so, he deserves no recognition for being best player.
Or, was he simply the best leader on the ice?
And while we're at it, who was the face of the league? Who was more respected, even by his opponents? Who was bringing the best out of his teammates, and his opponents? Time and again, Gretzky outdoes Messier here.
Sure, Messier won two cups without Gretzky. But keep in mind, he won the 1990 cup with all the guys returning from the Gretzky trade, one of whom later went to New York, played a large role in that win. And compare 1994 Rangers and 1993 Kings outside of Mess or Gretz. No contest, Rangers had the better team, Mess had more to work with.
One more thing, Gretzky did have a hand in Messier's growth as a leader.
Mark Messier cries when he does long division and has a remainder left over
His skills and legs retired in 1997. He hung around 8 years too long to rack up points while leading his teams to the golf course (7 straight years) in the process! Captain of just two cup teams! Yzerman and Stevens won 3 as Captain! Gretz and Potvin did it 4 times! Mess left the game with his tired ass tail between his legs!
Messier was without a doubt the most selfish player in NHL history. Instead of retiring he hung around just to rack up points. Your so called "Greatest Captain" won two cups as a captain, missed the playoffs 8 out of 16 years as a captain and got his teams past the 2nd round just three times during those 16 years! Looks to me like we can call Gretz, Potvin, Sakic, Mario and Yzerman the Greatest Greatest Captains ever! Who's NEEEEEXT!
No dildo he only led the Oilers to 1 Cup in 1990 but when 7 Oilers joined him in NY he was then able to "Lead" the Rangers / Oilers / Hawks to the cup! As a "leader" he missed the playoffs 8 times in 16 years! As a "leader" he missed the playoffs 7 straight times from 1998 to 2004! As a "leader" he only got to the finals 2 times and past the 2nd round 4 times! As a "leader" he should've retired in 1997 when his legs did but instead he hung around for seven years to rack up an average of 45 points a year! He was a leader but he was a poor leader! 1994 LETS GO REUNITED OILERS!
1st dude. Messier was a great player into the 2000's!!! That's hilarious! He averaged 43 points a year from 1998 - 2004 and missed the playoffs (as Captain) each year! You call that great?! 2nd I don't follow what you do. If I did I'd be marching in the gay parade every year! 3rd I'll talk all the shit I want about whoever I want! MESSIER WAS A FLAT OUT COKE HEAD AND ONE OF THE DIRTIEST CHEAPEST PLAYERS EVER! HE HUNG AROUND SEVEN YEARS TOO LONG JUST TO RACK UP POINTS WHILE HOLDING HIS TEAMS DOWN. SELFISH PRICK! AS A CAPTAIN HE MISSED THE PLAYOFFS 8 TIMES IN 16 SEASONS! THAT SUCKS!
Not miserable dude. Telling it like it is! Keep bowing down to Captain Coke head! This dirtbag threw elbows to the head for fun, giving concussions out like candy! Fuck him!
Why do you have to come off like a crybaby little bitch? You don't want to hear what I have to say then stick your head up your ass!
Preposterous that they would honor Mark when Brian could not be there. Just asinine!
I got an even better one! Too bad only 6,000 fans got to see the Rangers organization disrespectfully retire Howell and Bathgate together! Talk about killing two old birds with one stone! Forty something years later and together! Total disrespect! New Jersey would never humiliate their ex players like that!
That showed that he stands alone. It was set up by the NHL to show the highest respect that any player could ever receive. An amazing gesture by the NHL! It's just sad that the NHL had to force the Ranger organization to show respect for Howell and Bathgate. The tragedy was that the Rangers felt they didn't deserve the respect to have individual ceremonies! NYR failed!
That, along with having Mark's night without Brian in attendance. Not proud of my team's sleaze ball tactics.
Yeah, you're right. The Rangers are low life scum!
True! The Dolans and the Rangers suck!
Haha You Rangers fans are pathetic. The Devils have been the best organization in hockey for the last twenty years. The Rags haven't even been to the cup since they won in 94. Meanwhile we have been to 5 and won 3. I'll shut my mouth when the Rangers win another cup, but the Devils will probably add another one before the Rangers even make it to one.
We won 3 and been to 5 since 94. Not only that but we knocked out your best team since 94 in 2011? Your franchise is pathetic, we have only been in the league since 1982 and we are a far better franchise.
Well, technically, you've been in the league since 1969, idk how old you are, but the Colorado Rockies & Kansas City Scouts were the Devils before they were the Devils
ny rangers 4 cups in 100 years lol the first 3 basically a mens beer league tournament the other one bought with rent a players and their franchise player who they worship will be remembered more for being an oiler than a ranger lol if you think about it rangers have a pathetic history
Captain Coke or what dumb New Yorkers refer to him as "the Messiah" is the Lance Armstrong of hockey! In 1996 he was told to get his act together and by Sather and he did straighten out but as everyone knows he was no where near the player he was when he was using coke as he led his teams to the golf course from 1998 to 2004! During this time he put up below average numbers (45 points a year) and kept his team down while selfishly accumulating points to surpass Gordie Howe. His skills went faster than his hair!
he was a cheap shot "tough guy"
On his way to this ceremony Messier elbowed his mother while she was adjusting his tie, the doorman, limo driver, Madonna and a homeless guy that got in his way at the entrance of the Garden.
Your mom wears panties to keep her ankles warm!
ghytgb repetition, well now, how many Stanley Cup rings does he have? hmmmm, seems like he played hockey no badmouthing at the retirement....
Then Claude Provist is a better player than Mess because he won 9 cups. Thanks for agreeing that Marty is better than Giocomin, Richter and Lundqvist combined because he won more cups than all of them. Crawford is better than a Lundqvist because he won the cup twice. Murray is better than Giocomin. Trottier is equal as a player to Mess because he has six cups. Mess when surrounded by his Dynasty Oiler teammates = Great player / Mess without his Dynasty Oiler teammates = Great Golfer!
As Mark comes out you can see cocaine under his left nostril! The coke caught up with him in the end and it's why he wasn't able to skate well, score, pass and take hits. During his last seven years he was a shell of the player that he was (averaging 43 points during each of his last seven years) when he was surrounded by Hall of Famers on a Dynasty team. Messier on coke with the Dynasty Oilers = Good player. |||| Mess on coke and not surrounded by a great Dynasty team = Great Golfer!
The Captain would elbow his mother for an eightball of coke!