The Challenger (Big Boy's Not-So-Little Sister)

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  • čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
  • Before Big Boy 4014 was restored, the largest steam locomotive running was Union Pacific's massive 4-6-6-4 Challenger #3985.
    This program follows the 3985 from North Platte, Nebraska to St. Paul, Minnesota, then from Fremont, Nebraska, through North Platte, then on to the Challenger's home base in Cheyenne, Wyoming.
    There's many great runbys, as well as mile after mile of pacing (check out the sequence that begins at 56:32), some at 60 mph or faster. If you like big steam, then you'll love this program.
    Chapters:
    0:00 Introduction
    6:58 Depart North Platte
    14:53 Depart Kearney
    20:50 Depart Columbus
    24.46 Depart Missouri Valley
    33:02 Engineer Lynn Nystrom interview
    36:54 Depart Boone
    41:42 Depart Mason City
    51:31 Return trip-Depart Fremont
    1:00:53 Depart North Platte

Komentáře • 113

  • @zacharycalgher3978
    @zacharycalgher3978 Před 5 měsíci +86

    Union Pacific Challenger 3985 is now undergoing restoration to operating condition at the Railroading Heritage of Midwest America in Silvis Illinois.

    • @NhlxJoeJoe45
      @NhlxJoeJoe45 Před 5 měsíci +9

      Don’t forget 5511! That’s also undergoing restoration as well

    • @zacharycalgher3978
      @zacharycalgher3978 Před 5 měsíci +11

      @@NhlxJoeJoe45 Exactly. I’m excited for both 3985 & 5511 returning to service.

    • @Tom8201
      @Tom8201 Před 4 měsíci +3

      They also got 6936.

    • @skypost7709
      @skypost7709 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Isent 4014 pulling 3985’s tender currently?

    • @zacharycalgher3978
      @zacharycalgher3978 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@skypost7709 Yes, Union Pacific Big Boy 4014 is still currently using Union Pacific Challenger 3985’s tender.

  • @stellarokami5052
    @stellarokami5052 Před měsícem +2

    3985 is just as beautiful as her older brother. The Big Boy 4014! They are my favorite steam trains!

  • @Mark-xv5lb
    @Mark-xv5lb Před 3 měsíci +2

    Horsepower! 3985, Cadillac of the rails!
    Oh, wait, that was a different movie. But seriously, 3985 is my favorite and look forward to seeing it under its own steam.

  • @user-vd8dj5zt8q
    @user-vd8dj5zt8q Před 3 měsíci +5

    I just love the steam locomotives ❤❤❤❤. Nothing comes near them, like their sound, just everything else

  • @maxwellwalcher6420
    @maxwellwalcher6420 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Big George our Challenger.

  • @jonathanhege5029
    @jonathanhege5029 Před 5 měsíci +16

    Eagerly waiting for the Challenger!

  • @c7042
    @c7042 Před 4 měsíci +5

    My 2 sons and I saw 3985 at Omaha over 34 years ago. They got to go up in the cab. We still have a small steamer engine at Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo railroad maintained and operated by retired UPRR engineers who had worked at the now non-existing rebuild/overhaul facility here. Eastern Nebraska still has enough heavy industry and machine shops to support the small railroad. Bonney Forge in Oxford, NE had/has a high pressure/temp impact forge that once back in the 1960s, made the descent engine titanium swivel mounts for all the LEM's used in the moon landing program for Gruman. N.L. Bearings in Fremont can made precision sand cast bearings for railroad use. Griffin Pipe in C.B., IA has a forced air cupola type blast furnace also and can do molten steel spin casting. I'm 74 and retired but I've personally visited all these places in my work. For being best known for agriculture, Nebraska has impressive industrial capability and we are becoming known for our IT prowness. Ask Google, Paypal, and Facebook.

  • @thomasavensjr.2790
    @thomasavensjr.2790 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I always enjoy seeing footage of UP Challenger 3985 in operation and it's unfortunate that the 3985 hasn't operated since 2010, but all equipment needs to receive maintenance repairs. Hopefully in another 10 years the 3985 will be returned back to operating condition again after being repaired at the Silvis, Illinois railroad maintenance building.

  • @mattlaszlo3781
    @mattlaszlo3781 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I witnessed this amazing machine in Minnesota on that steam tour. I was always into the newest shiniest fanciest locomotives at that time. Old steam locomotive pictures seemed boring to me. I was train watching by the river bluffs in St Paul one day and by luck happened to see 3985 sitting outside of the Union Depot. I'm not sure how but I ended up chasing the Challenger the next day down to Mankato Minnesota and have a crazy video of her doing at least 60mph but it felt like 80mph. That day I was bit by the steam bug and have been obsessed ever since. Nothing compares to the Challenger or Big Boy in person. No new locomotive will ever impress me as much as these old engineering marvels. Can't wait to see the CPKC steamer soon!

  • @YourMid740
    @YourMid740 Před 4 měsíci +8

    I remember watching these people’s *Colorado’s Scenic Train Rides* on DVD. Still got it after all these years.

  • @benediktmorak4409
    @benediktmorak4409 Před 4 měsíci +3

    That sound of that -haunting - steamwhistle,, amazing every time.

  • @andrewdiesel487
    @andrewdiesel487 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Challenger 3985

  • @rockhead4534
    @rockhead4534 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I love the Challenger, this is a gem UP needs to hang on to. Cannot wait to see her back in action.

  • @jacksonpugh6423
    @jacksonpugh6423 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I stood on the 3977 in spring 2021, thanks to my great knowledge of trains.

  • @geomodelrailroader
    @geomodelrailroader Před 5 měsíci +18

    Thanks for posting this. Rest in Peace Lynn thank you for training Ed to succeed you #3985 is in good hands and will be back in action soon.

  • @mikebell9166
    @mikebell9166 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Running sooo smooth....😊
    Barely any visible smoke. The fireman has her leaned out, and running clean. Good job!

  • @sonnymoorehouse1941
    @sonnymoorehouse1941 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Eastbound and down loaded up and steaming watch that engine chugging run that challenger run !!!!!!

  • @thomasboese3793
    @thomasboese3793 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Alco Steam products were great. If you want to talk about Big Boy's "little" sister, you have to start at the beginning of the quest for major modern steam power with the UP's Union Pacific class 9000s, the 4-12-2. Just 3 cylinders and one very long wheelbase, used in both passenger and freight service.
    Fun Fact: the water cars used behind the 4014, 3985, and 844 were built by using two water tanks from the 9000's tenders on a 9000 tender frame. So, today the "little" sister is a big help to Big Boy.

  • @kingofthemonsters3712
    @kingofthemonsters3712 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I can't wait to see it

  • @robertcovell2787
    @robertcovell2787 Před 4 měsíci +5

    That was the best coverage of an American locomotive that I have ever seen!!! And 3985 was an appropriate subject.

    • @RailwayProductions
      @RailwayProductions  Před 4 měsíci +5

      Than you! Maybe you’ll enjoy some of our other programs!

    • @lucasquintanilla1673
      @lucasquintanilla1673 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@RailwayProductions do you think it’s likely we will see big boy and the Challenger doubleheading with each other once 3985 is restored?

    • @RailwayProductions
      @RailwayProductions  Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@lucasquintanilla1673 I really don’t know. The new CEO of Union Pacific has not committed to running steam beyond this year. He hasn’t said anything about stopping it but he has only said that they will run this year so far.

    • @lucasquintanilla1673
      @lucasquintanilla1673 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@RailwayProductions I have read that one of the reasons why the steam program with union pacific is one of the few that can be relied upon to continue its steam program I think there was something like a financial incentive in the stock market or some thing for it I’m not entirely sure. anyway I really was meaning more in the long term or the next few years because I can guarantee that the site of two giant articulated steam locomotives operating at the same time or even doubleheading is probably a scene that hasn’t happened since the 1950s. And if it happened with the worlds, two largest steam locomotives the big boy and the Challenger, it probably would be one of the most iconic sites in railroading.

    • @Ugod17
      @Ugod17 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I love railway productions

  • @Brianrockrailfan
    @Brianrockrailfan Před 5 měsíci +8

    Awesome 🚂👍🚃

  • @rileysanesh5203
    @rileysanesh5203 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I like 3985 because she’s in great shape

  • @Andrew-uf6vq
    @Andrew-uf6vq Před 14 dny

    Awesome would love to see the challenger and the big boy. 4014. And so would my nephews and nieces

  • @alexburcham900
    @alexburcham900 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Just Beautiful

  • @WestsideDomo
    @WestsideDomo Před 5 měsíci +7

    Look at the 3985 pulling a passenger train by herself without a diesel locomotive behind her to help her. So the 4014 can pull a train by itself too like UP 3985, but the Union Pacific wants a locomotive to help the Big Boy 4014 for dynamic braking and other stuff

    • @bigunatwork
      @bigunatwork Před 4 měsíci +4

      Ed uses the diesel behind the 4014 for resistance. She has so much power that she needs something to pull against.

    • @polarys425
      @polarys425 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@bigunatwork it's mainly for dynamic braking on down hill grades, and PTC. She weighs over a million pounds, they'd burn the brakes off the train. PTC is a must for location, safety, collision prevention, etc.

    • @steamtechnicolor461
      @steamtechnicolor461 Před 4 měsíci +4

      So, they should build the diesel locomotive look like passenger car shape for smartly looking.

    • @therailfanman2078
      @therailfanman2078 Před 9 dny

      They also have the diesel because if something were to damage 4014, the diesel can haul it back

  • @Margiezilla2006
    @Margiezilla2006 Před 4 měsíci +5

    It’s my girl Margaret 3985!❤️♾️

  • @nathancorcoran5347
    @nathancorcoran5347 Před měsícem +1

    This is a cool film of Union Pacific Challenger 3985, I sure hope to see it running again.

  • @wernerfuchs8414
    @wernerfuchs8414 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Top Gänsehaut Aufnahmen 🚂 Da läufts den Rücken rauf und runter 😮

  • @Wolfgodmak
    @Wolfgodmak Před 5 měsíci +5

    I wish we had Challenger in California but UP and BNSF lines are too windy and rail traffic is congested at times

  • @user-po8bl7kx9g
    @user-po8bl7kx9g Před 5 měsíci +3

    I'm so psyched to see that train back in this year with the rest of all of them and someday all the union pacific steam locomotives and diesel locomotives they'd be working together as a team same with all steam locomotives of all American railroads because that would be so awesome man sweet and wicked cool dude

  • @railfanmaximstill7279
    @railfanmaximstill7279 Před 4 měsíci +5

    51:37 There was a street light on 3rd and Main?
    Info over Fremont.
    Fremont was and still is one of the most important points on the Transcontinental Railroad. The line to Chicago is the Former C&NW the Beam Processing plant's tracks were owned by the C&NW as the mainline to Norfolk, Chadron, and so forth.
    C&NW Abadoned the Fremont to Norfolk section.
    UP retains the spur but the shortline that owned the line between Fremont and Hooper is gone.
    The C&NW, UP, and BN. All ran through at one point the C&NW was eventually swallowed whole by the UP the City of Fremont eventually switched its primary company for railroads from BNSF to UP. (Judging from how many industries both railroads serve)
    Been here since 2013.
    The town and rails have undergone several changes. Union Street still remains as the 2nd most dangerous crossing in town.
    With only the Crosby Street crossing being ranked higher due to the Street Light Placement there and it being a unnecessarily long red light thing. Three accidents have occurred at that crossing in the past.
    Fremont is still regarded as a major historic point on the Railroad. But isn’t talked about. It's overshadowed by the almost 8x larger Railroad Hotspot known as North Platte.
    Yes I know a lot

  • @CTK1201
    @CTK1201 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I want to tip my hat to all of the men past and present who responsible for the operations of the Challenger and all of the steam equipment of UP. Operating those locomotives separates the men from the boys.

  • @qora01m
    @qora01m Před 4 měsíci +4

    No diesels behind 3985... 😊

  • @trainmaster0217
    @trainmaster0217 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Poetry in motion. Just an awesome video. Never get tired of watching the 3985 strut her stuff. She deserves it.

  • @ernestyeagley512
    @ernestyeagley512 Před 4 měsíci +3

    JACINTO was misspelled in the video --- the letter "T" was left out. Spent many an hour sitting in the siding there.

  • @larrygibson9605
    @larrygibson9605 Před 4 měsíci +2

    If so many people,,,,myself included ,, are wanting to see more steam engines running ,it ,to me looks like there would be a profitable way to put them back in service for some sort of service, thru out the country

  • @raymondsheets5583
    @raymondsheets5583 Před 9 dny

    It said that knowing 3985 is no longer part of the Union Pacific Heritage Fleet, but I will plan to see her when she's back in operation.

  • @sanjursan
    @sanjursan Před 4 měsíci +2

    Check 16:50 for pure clean example of crossing signal.

  • @danherrmann8755
    @danherrmann8755 Před 4 měsíci +2

    My bucket list. Will be. Signed for a visit.

  • @gilbertolara1241
    @gilbertolara1241 Před 5 měsíci +3

    UNA PARTE DE LA HISTORIA Q DEBEN PRESERVAR PARA TODA LA VIDA EN LA UNION NORTEAMERICANA Y NUNCA PERO NUNCAS DEJARLAS EN EL OLVIDO❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @gilbertolara1241
      @gilbertolara1241 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Y MANTENERLAS OPERATIVA EN TODO SU EXPLENDOR. HOJALA LA RESTAUREN TODAS LAS Q QUEDAN. Y UTILIZARLAS AL TURISMO XQ ES UN LEGADO DE UNA EPOCA Y PATRE DEL SENTIMIENTO Y LA CULTURA DE TODOS LOS NORTEAMERICANO S SALUDOS .

  • @DixieAlleyEAS
    @DixieAlleyEAS Před 4 měsíci +3

    There is nothing like seeing big steam pound the rails. Due to The Challenger being restored, I might get an HO scale Rivarossi 3985 for my model railway to celebrate.

  • @ethanarmitage5611
    @ethanarmitage5611 Před 5 měsíci +8

  • @DUBMANS
    @DUBMANS Před 4 měsíci +3

    The ultimate wish. 4014=3985=844 triple header.

    • @mikebell9166
      @mikebell9166 Před 2 měsíci +2

      They'd have to either run a 2 mile train, or a couple diesels running for dynamics...or maybe 2 of the 3, dead in consist. It'd be nice, though!

  • @gracegoodenough5895
    @gracegoodenough5895 Před 5 měsíci +2

    That ole girl can really haul!!

  • @robertgift
    @robertgift Před 3 měsíci +3

    *3985* should have been doing something useful by also hauling freight. What idiot was going to have 3977 scrapped? What would the scrap metal have been worth, minus costs of cutting up and disassembling the locomotive? So thankful thathey saved it.

  • @jesikebiking
    @jesikebiking Před 4 měsíci +3

    We have to save these treasures before they are all gone ====== because once they are gone ====sadly they are gone forever

  • @williamorton7600
    @williamorton7600 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I hope we'll get to see 3985 east of the Mississippi once rebuilt.

  • @SJNFury_Tai
    @SJNFury_Tai Před 4 měsíci +1

    If this is what I think it is, I have this movie on DVD and would watch it from time to time years ago.

  • @user-oh6ze3dq6p
    @user-oh6ze3dq6p Před 24 dny

    Challangers were sold to the D&H Railroad in the 40s to haul coal trains to New York from the coal mines of NE PA.

  • @Josavr
    @Josavr Před 5 měsíci +2

    i like how it says not so little sister

  • @Spacething7474
    @Spacething7474 Před 5 měsíci +9

    heehee, the thumbnail spells so with a 0 instead of an o.

  • @TechnikMeister2
    @TechnikMeister2 Před 4 měsíci +2

    American train enthusiasts get all worked up about their big steam locomotives. British and European trains buffs talk about top speed, but the US locomotives were not about speed, but pulling power. They had their zenith in the 30s and 40s hailing vast amounts of freight. Most might have a top speed of 60mph, but the relatively narrow gauge used in the USA precludes high speed. The tracks were laid decades before and rail was a private enterprise system. In Europe and the rest of the developed world, it was a government service. So things like rail corridors to open up wider curves and straights were not a problem when it was the government doing it.

    • @TheMrPeteChannel
      @TheMrPeteChannel Před měsícem

      The one and only PRR S1 locomotive (The Big Engine) did 152mph in testing. (allegedly)

    • @TechnikMeister2
      @TechnikMeister2 Před měsícem

      @@TheMrPeteChannel Impossible. It would need driving wheels 12 feet high to get that fast. It's a simple gearing limitation. Mallards were 8 feet to get to 120mph.

    • @therailfanman2078
      @therailfanman2078 Před 9 dny

      ​@@TechnikMeister2they also almost broke the mallard while going downhill. Not impossible, the T1 were reported doing 130+

  • @AaronMattnerR730
    @AaronMattnerR730 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wish they’d open up big boy like that and really let her go at 70mph

  • @osmanhossain676
    @osmanhossain676 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I always like Disney Junior, Disney Channel, Disney XD and Disney+.❤

  • @Milepost1965
    @Milepost1965 Před 5 měsíci +2

    ❤❤❤

  • @briankistner4331
    @briankistner4331 Před 4 měsíci +2

    It's just a shame Ed (Dickens) gave up on her.

  • @jameshill1740
    @jameshill1740 Před 4 měsíci +2

    From where im from, its not proper to refer to a brute as a little sister. 3985 was a dragon with might!

  • @zacharycalgher3978
    @zacharycalgher3978 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Norfolk & Western Class A 1218 and Class Y 2156 are nothing compared to Union Pacific Challenger 3985 and Big Boy 4014.

  • @robertfletcher4065
    @robertfletcher4065 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Build in a Time when America was not afriad to demonstrate to the World what they could do. I will be corrected but It seems to me this as gone , no longer does it lead the World in innovation. Sad.

    • @OKFrax-ys2op
      @OKFrax-ys2op Před 4 měsíci +3

      Fast food joints are definitely progressive, increasing and expanding waistlines, with all kinds of growth.

  • @osmanhossain676
    @osmanhossain676 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I always like grocery shopping, shopping and malls.

  • @osmanhossain676
    @osmanhossain676 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I always like California.

  • @op_s_lead
    @op_s_lead Před 4 měsíci +2

    Rolling coal

  • @theronbrawley9716
    @theronbrawley9716 Před 2 měsíci +1

    RN

  • @osmanhossain676
    @osmanhossain676 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I am from California.

  • @theronbrawley9716
    @theronbrawley9716 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Ran

  • @rushylvania.northern
    @rushylvania.northern Před 5 měsíci +4

    It's wierd within 15 years the table turned turntable cause now the 4014 is actively running and the 3985 is awaiting rebuilding

    • @adamwimunc5568
      @adamwimunc5568 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Not awaiting a rebuild it’s currently getting rebuilt

    • @zacharycalgher3978
      @zacharycalgher3978 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@adamwimunc5568That’s right, 3985 is being rebuilt at it’s new home in Silvis.

  • @petebiddle7900
    @petebiddle7900 Před 24 dny

    I remember seeing steam in Denver asa young lad, 1950 to 1959.