@@joshdiblasi8404 oh I know, I have a steel wheel laying around with the intent to make it into a charcoal forge, just haven't found the time or motivation. I was more referring to the "DIY" videos that include a CNC machine, lathe, plasma cutter, depleted uranium, and top notch CAD.
@@calculatedsurvival so now you just do CZcams or...do you still have a day job I fully support the grind if you are trying to become, a CZcamsr my friend it's a decision I could never make after many years now
Or played at 5× speed, creating that horrid fast-forward audio; Hammer: BRRRRRRRRRTRTRTRTRTTR. Cutting: TZZZZZEEEW TZZZZZZZHEEW. Sanding: _chshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchsh._ I mean, it's not ASRM, it's just annoying. What's more, the FFW is designed to give a sense of a DIY with few steps, most of them easy. But inevitably the video goes far too long, to the point of astounding how much scouring/cutting really must take place, to make a clip feel like it's dragging on when it's overcranked AT LEAST 4, 5× normal speed. Never got that impression with this video. Great pacing and length.
I agree...it was short, to the point and it didn't have any distracting, annoying background music or "special effects". The sounds of tools playing their natural rhythm is more than enough. Hell, I feel that this is one DIY project I can attempt over the weekend...all on my own! Thank you!
Until you realise the absolute sick grinder skills required to get those bevels right, free hand, with the least precise tool in the whole workshop... Good luck but this video is a skill flex....
@@CS-zn6pp Way to shit on someone that wants to learn something new. Your mentality is part of the problem with the internet as a whole you negative douche.
@@CS-zn6pp and getting the blade thin, but not so thin that the temper warps it, then grinding the rest of the bevel in without fucking up the heat treat, also most ovens will shoot up to 500 and drop to 350 before regulating temperature so the heat treat cycle is really inconsistent.
I have over 15 years of passion for knives and forging and this is the first video that is actually straight to the point and gives actual value... all my respect m8, all my respect. !!!!
Damn people sure do love to bitch and complain.. It was very clear to me that he is showing a rock-bottom way to make a knife.. Of course a forge and belt sander makes it much easier and more precise.. BUT that is not the point of the video..
More like memory retention ...but mediocre grinder skills can do this....I'm or saying his skill is mediocre btw. All around cool vid..... tomorrow is never promised retain simple knowledge like this
@@camden7488 Your level of stupid doesn't stroll through these parts very often.. Cute little cartoon picture you chose from the list, does that mean you are dumb as a rock or just a whiney little biotch? what kind of fuel do you use in your rock bottom forge that you use to collect your iron ore?
Honestly, this is the video I’ve been looking for. I don’t need to be a master knife maker. Just something to start off making a cool knife. This is an amazing video please keep doing stuff like this
I've been making knives since I was 13 and only had a bench grinder, dremel, and hand tools. Even made my own propane powered forge so I could heat treat them. This stuff is not as complicated as a lot of people think, it just takes a lot longer when you don't have all the tools you want like a belt sander and a metal cutting band saw.
My first one was shaped out with a grinder then cut my bevels in with files only. I honestly thought it was gonna take longer than it did but a good set of files will cut that in fairly quickly. I did the heat treat at work where we had a torch and also used the drill press at work for my pin holes. I was proud as shit of that knife. It was a Bowie I made from a horseshoeing rasp. I even cut several trees down with that thing about 6 inches in diameter. That was the first of .any more to come and now I haven't touched a knife in almost 15 years. I'll get back to again eventually
Wow! Now these are the kinda videos that get people into a hobbies... most people hear of forging and think of all the stuff they require and the space the would need and get discouraged... seeing this really put things in perspective...❤❤❤
I’ve been wanting a bench made Osborne 940 but the price tag is a bit hefty but also I heard just a few days ago that they were anti gun , do you know if that’s true ?
I'm still corn fused about the heat treat. He said he puts it in the oven for a hour @ 400⁰....he does this twice? So, he takes the knife out, resets the timer for a hour, puts the knife back in?
@@L-Train0ne That's not heat treating, that's tempering. Heat treating makes the metal hard but brittle. You want enough hardness to retain an edge but it will be too hard and become brittle. Tempering will bring down the brittlness and it will be easier to sharpen. Every steel for knives has to be heat treated and tempered. The heat treating is the same, bring it to critical temperature (so hot a magnet will not stick) and then quench is some liquid to "set" the grain structure. The tempering can be different for different types of steel.
Leaf spring steel is objectively a worse idea. Could have microfractures from use, but even worse, it could be a range of various different steels depending on manufacturer and age, and that's a recipe for inconsistency and sub par results.
Inspiring. You have created an avenue for thousands of makers to try a new craft, some will actually use this to launch a more serious effort, others it will be a cool experiment!
This is awesome to see, never got into it as a hobby because I figured I'd need some good equipment to start, so it's great to know you can build up to that and don't need to spend a bunch of cash to get started!
Nice instructions. But that propane torch tank sure looks like a MAP gas tank. Just saying because there's a little difference between the two. As one probably wouldn't heat the metal hot enough.
@@calculatedsurvival I read messages. I apologize. Yeah lots of peoples pointed this out. As Mapp Gas is a stabilize form of Propane and acetylene oxygen enriched. So technically you're right.
Oil is far better for quenching. The water can flash evaporate to steam creating a tiny pocket of gas that will prevent that part of the blade from cooling at the same rate as the rest of it.
For those of you who want to do this but want to do it cheaper, a hole in the ground will work just fine as a forge. Firewood will get plenty hot enough but you'll need a forced air system. A 3' steel pipe (do not used a galvanized pipe) and a bicycle pump will work fine for a bellows. A piece of railroad track works for an anvil. I've used smooth rocks as anvils. Sure they break but..... A claw hammer, ball peen hammer, small sledge hammer will work. You just need something to hit the steel with. Files can be had cheaply. Use your imagination. Good luck!
Honesty is the best policy. No BS title claiming he's forging a knife when he's not. Straight forward how to make a knife from a piece of steel with limited tools. Simply Amazing! 👍
Yea I've been amazed that noone ever shows the tempering process. We always used a toaster oven. Easier to control heat and doesn't heat the whole damn house up lol
To every aspiring knife maker, come to the realization that there’s gonna be a point where you’re gonna need to learn to forge. This is a starting point, but don’t linger at this level long. Make a cheap forge, get a piece of cheap railroad for an anvil, a decent quality smithing hammer and get to forging.
I have a rotorary, a handheld grinder, a Craftsman combo belt and disc, with the blue abrasives. Electric oven, and a torch set. I like his use of water hardening materials. They are considerably, softer than other materials, and can crack when quenching. The draw back times, are kinda extra precautions. One hour per inch, is the most common preference. I have used them all, air hardens are the toughest materials. Plastic mold mirror metals, make pretty finishes. Blades used for camping, and batoning, need tougher materials. Kitchen knives can be thin and hold an edge. A EDC, somewhere in between.
First I would quench in oil if using 1095 especially if you're a beginner. Second I wouldn't use a plastic cup as the quench bath. You can get a gallon of peanut oil, which has a high flash point, for about 15 bucks and an empty paint can for like 3 bucks. Source: me I've made about 30 knives out of 1095 quenched every one in peanut oil and they all came out perfect. Oh don't forget to heat your oil up to about 100 degrees maybe 120 warm oil draws the heat out of the steel faster. Next when you make a blade longer than 4 inches you have to learn how to straighten warped steel, just remember knife makers don't make mistakes they just make smaller knives.
Quenching in brine or parks 50 is usually better for 1095. I use canola oil which is not as aggressive as peanut oil and it still works but it's best to stay safe with parks 50 if you can afford it. Brine is scary since it can lead to cracks, but still better than peanut or canola oil
@@Skidgiz99 that's why I'm glad my very safety conscious brother was the one who got me into wanting to make knives. When we were looking for a quench tank I suggested using a Tupperware container and he just gave me this look like is was really dumb.
@SouthGlass when you heat treat it it makes it very hard, which in turn makes it brittle, the oven kind of gets rid of some of the heat treating, but not all of it, getting rid of the brittleness while not making it too soft again
I am a bladesmith and own Alphadog Blades. The only thing you should do is use oil to quinch and don't heat treat twice. Instead heat treat once and quinch in vegetable oil. The water can cause stress fractures. Good job though.
I’ve just started doing research to get into this and have barley scratched the surface. That being said I was reading an article that explained the different quenching mediums for steel types and explained oil, water, brine and air all had their individual purposes. Would you be able to further elaborate on this? Is oil the best medium for blades more specifically?
@@AutonomousVII yes Oil with a high flash point is best. Water will cause metal to have stress fractures down to a microscopic level and inevitably cause blade failure. There are experienced blade smiths who use water but they use it in an exact method. Oil is far better for a beginner and anyone who doesn't specifically know water techniques etc. The only time I use water or brine is on softer steel to get as much hardness from it as I can. Even when using oil be sure it's not cold. I heat up a large bolt or railroad spike and drop it in my quench oil. This will also to prevent cracks.
@@AutonomousVII also if you use recycled metal you may want to test its carbon content by grinding it and looking at the spark s. The brighter and longer the sparks the more carbon in the steel. They almost look like a mini sparkler.
@@jeffcryptohulkstewart2943 Thanks for getting back to me I appreciate it! I have some old steel from welding projects I want to try and make some blades out of. I also have some old railroad spikes would making a knife out of it be feasible? Would hardening work on it?
@@AutonomousVII when starting out you should use anything you can get your hands on. The more you make the better you get. Mild steel will only harden up so much but if you know you have a mild steel blade then it's no big deal. They dull quickly but also sharpen easy. RR spikes come in varying amounts of carbon. Most are low carbon but I have made some decent knives from them and lots of tomahawk. Experiment with quench methods on mild steel.
And in oven… And an angle grinder… With a cut off wheel… And the sanding disc… And fire brick… And para cord… With these three items just kidding good video👍🏻
For buying the steel I'd recommend looking at your local welding shop. They'll sell them to you the exact amount you need without shipping cost and most of them no taxes too
To be Fair,watching "Forged In Fire" got me wanting to make a Personal Knife, I`ve got the Basics like here,so Nothing Stopping me Now!! Great Vid,Great Skills too!! Thanks!
Great Video! This from a tig welder, with heat treatment processes and many different quenching processes under his belt. USN Avation Structial Mechanic and Cirtified Suport equipment and Aircraft welder.
my friend and i want to get into knife making and we want to start with this video as inspiration. what material do you recommend for the angle grinder blade to safely cut 1095?
Cut-off wheels work just fine for cutting 1095. They are ceramic and relatively cheap. Just be careful that you don’t twist your angle grinder once you are in the cut. Those blades are fragile at any angle other than straight.
Nicely done. I'd love to see the difference in tensile strength of the same steel after a couple different quench methods. I've used a couple different types of oil in the past but never tried the brine.
Yep, I wouldn't use 1095 though. Try 1074 or 1080. They're more forgiving plus 1095 has been problematic due to inconsistencies in certain ingredients such as manganese. This makes quenching problems.
1095 by definition is not supposed to have any manganese just iron and 95 hundredths of one percent carbon it is not however a brine quench steel and you need a much larger quench tub
@@scottjohnson9642 Thanks, from what I've read, it has a little, but too little manganese shortens the time window between forge to quench... regardless of the proper temperature. Many knife makers were having a problem of 1095 knives not hardening during a quench.
I had my own business making knives for years and used high quality 1095 (not from Amazon). It’s a great high carbon steel that is excellent for bushcraft/survival knives since it can be used with a ferro rod for fire starting. Has great edge retention and if quenched and annealed properly will have good hardness without being brittle. But always oil quench.
My first knife was in 1095. I also quenched it in water rather than oil, and the rapidity of the quench caused cracks to instantly form in the steel. Since brine cools steel even quicker, the cracking issue is likely to be worse.
@@spoopy9689 willing? Not so much, the only reason why my dad (mom too) and Grandpa eventually were okay with the thought of me using a torch and some other tools was that I didn't hurt myself as bad or as much but at 1st they didn't know I was using them till they saw the tank's gauges low or tools out of place. But button line, yes, I got pretty lucky
You can do the tempering with a torch. Heat the blade slowly and carefully from the back until your back/spine is deep blue, but your cutting edge is straw colored. This leaves your cutting edge hard and your back and handle area malleable so they are not brittle and subject to snapping. The hard edge will retain it's edge holding ability and the rest will not be subject to snapping. That's how it has been done for centuries.
I know pretty much every company cuts them out of plate steel, but i like the idea of forging one more, eventhough that is a very very complicated proces. That even if done right coulf go wrong
Holy shit, a DIY short that doesn't involve $50,000 worth of machinery! You get a like
Just so u know ima fulltime knifemaker and u can make LEGIT ass chefs knives with like $2000 or less in equipment & materials , if u were interested
@@joshdiblasi8404 oh I know, I have a steel wheel laying around with the intent to make it into a charcoal forge, just haven't found the time or motivation. I was more referring to the "DIY" videos that include a CNC machine, lathe, plasma cutter, depleted uranium, and top notch CAD.
You know CZcams has a search feature, right?
@@mikayla_collie you know your comment is utterly irrelevant, right?
Ong
Can we talk about how perfect his bevel was with an angle grinder? Dude could literally be a world famous pipe fitter!
I was a pipe fitter
@@calculatedsurvival I wish I was your welder. We would’ve been a perfect duo.
@@calculatedsurvival was...what happened bro, me n my mom are both in the trade although she only works for about 6 months out of the year now n days
@@dewal5772 my passion was the outdoors.
@@calculatedsurvival so now you just do CZcams or...do you still have a day job I fully support the grind if you are trying to become, a CZcamsr my friend it's a decision I could never make after many years now
Maybe the best do it yourself video that wasn't dragged out for a hour
Or played at 5× speed, creating that horrid fast-forward audio;
Hammer: BRRRRRRRRRTRTRTRTRTTR.
Cutting: TZZZZZEEEW TZZZZZZZHEEW.
Sanding: _chshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchshchsh._
I mean, it's not ASRM, it's just annoying. What's more, the FFW is designed to give a sense of a DIY with few steps, most of them easy. But inevitably the video goes far too long, to the point of astounding how much scouring/cutting really must take place, to make a clip feel like it's dragging on when it's overcranked AT LEAST 4, 5× normal speed.
Never got that impression with this video. Great pacing and length.
I agree...it was short, to the point and it didn't have any distracting, annoying background music or "special effects".
The sounds of tools playing their natural rhythm is more than enough.
Hell, I feel that this is one DIY project I can attempt over the weekend...all on my own!
Thank you!
Bro , that is so cool, I think this is the only video that I feel I can do tomorrow, no problems. Boom I have a cool knife !
Great content !
Until you realise the absolute sick grinder skills required to get those bevels right, free hand, with the least precise tool in the whole workshop...
Good luck but this video is a skill flex....
Yeah I just noticed that bevel/grind skill. Yeeeeeeeah, gonna be a min on that.
@@CS-zn6pp
Way to shit on someone that wants to learn something new.
Your mentality is part of the problem with the internet as a whole you negative douche.
Would you make it a Chod knife as well?
@@CS-zn6pp and getting the blade thin, but not so thin that the temper warps it, then grinding the rest of the bevel in without fucking up the heat treat, also most ovens will shoot up to 500 and drop to 350 before regulating temperature so the heat treat cycle is really inconsistent.
Youve got mad skill with that grinder. Most people dont realize the amount practice thats gone into that.
Was thinking the same. Steady hands
I was thinking "grind your bevels evenly by hand?? Bravo sir!"
No kidding. It's hard even with a belt sander.
Took like 8 years for me to do something like that with little to no effort (I'm 19)
I have over 15 years of passion for knives and forging and this is the first video that is actually straight to the point and gives actual value... all my respect m8, all my respect. !!!!
Too bad he is wrong on all points... nice grinder work tho
Damn people sure do love to bitch and complain.. It was very clear to me that he is showing a rock-bottom way to make a knife.. Of course a forge and belt sander makes it much easier and more precise.. BUT that is not the point of the video..
He is using skills to substitute for more expensive tools.
More like memory retention ...but mediocre grinder skills can do this....I'm or saying his skill is mediocre btw. All around cool vid..... tomorrow is never promised retain simple knowledge like this
@@camden7488 Your level of stupid doesn't stroll through these parts very often.. Cute little cartoon picture you chose from the list, does that mean you are dumb as a rock or just a whiney little biotch? what kind of fuel do you use in your rock bottom forge that you use to collect your iron ore?
Belt sander? You mean grinding wheel and buffing wheel?
100+ dollars in the grinder, torch, steel and bricks is not rock bottom, at that rate i personally would just rather buy a knife for 80-150 bucks
The UK government hates this one single trick!
Pretty sure they wouldn't even let you ship that piece of 1095 to the UK at this point. But you could always just cut it off of something else.
Lol that sounds crazy but with their policies i could believe it @doinksinthePM
You can walk outside and chip a rock to make a knife. They going to ban rocks too?
Honestly, this is the video I’ve been looking for. I don’t need to be a master knife maker. Just something to start off making a cool knife. This is an amazing video please keep doing stuff like this
I've been making knives since I was 13 and only had a bench grinder, dremel, and hand tools. Even made my own propane powered forge so I could heat treat them. This stuff is not as complicated as a lot of people think, it just takes a lot longer when you don't have all the tools you want like a belt sander and a metal cutting band saw.
My first one was shaped out with a grinder then cut my bevels in with files only. I honestly thought it was gonna take longer than it did but a good set of files will cut that in fairly quickly. I did the heat treat at work where we had a torch and also used the drill press at work for my pin holes. I was proud as shit of that knife. It was a Bowie I made from a horseshoeing rasp. I even cut several trees down with that thing about 6 inches in diameter. That was the first of .any more to come and now I haven't touched a knife in almost 15 years. I'll get back to again eventually
If you get into different types of steel your have to be more precise in the heat treat. I'm sure you know but people reading these comments may not.
Wow! Now these are the kinda videos that get people into a hobbies... most people hear of forging and think of all the stuff they require and the space the would need and get discouraged... seeing this really put things in perspective...❤❤❤
Exactly. Something I can make on my porch without a dedicated toolset
As a knife enthusiast, this is awesome. Simple. I love my Benchmade but its cool to see simple crafting like this.
I’ve been wanting a bench made Osborne 940 but the price tag is a bit hefty but also I heard just a few days ago that they were anti gun , do you know if that’s true ?
Still a much better blade than you'll get from the gas station.
To be fair, he paid more for the steel than a gas station knife
@@crazeeazthat steel is like 1/3 of a $10 billet.
Thanks for this. Simplification of heat treating needs to be a thing. Well done
There's a lot more to heat treating than just one big dip
I'm still corn fused about the heat treat. He said he puts it in the oven for a hour @ 400⁰....he does this twice? So, he takes the knife out, resets the timer for a hour, puts the knife back in?
@@L-Train0ne
That's not heat treating, that's tempering.
Heat treating makes the metal hard but brittle.
You want enough hardness to retain an edge but it will be too hard and become brittle.
Tempering will bring down the brittlness and it will be easier to sharpen.
Every steel for knives has to be heat treated and tempered. The heat treating is the same, bring it to critical temperature (so hot a magnet will not stick) and then quench is some liquid to "set" the grain structure.
The tempering can be different for different types of steel.
@samcoon6699 ht is the entire process, hardening makes it hard, tempering makes it soft.
@L-Train0ne yes two cycles air cool to room temp then do it again
I love knives, and watching them get made. Never thought i would be able to make one. This kinda feels doable
heat treatment instructions were the best part. thanks for this bro
This is bad. I just went to amazon and bought some steel....i also have the torch and clamp and angle grinder and files.......im making a knife!!!!
The internet is 👀, Do it and show it.
Bad? You should find yourself an og anarchists cookbook. That was one of my favorite PDFs in middle school, good memories
How's the knife going?
Any follow up?
Planning on making one during spring break or over the summer.
Everyone In London taking notes
😂
Easy and clever. I suggest leaf spring steel when available. Either way, that's a proper decent piece of kit.
Leaf spring steel is objectively a worse idea. Could have microfractures from use, but even worse, it could be a range of various different steels depending on manufacturer and age, and that's a recipe for inconsistency and sub par results.
I have made a few knives with spring steel! They have turned out nice!
If you really wanna bitch, how do you know it's really 1095?
@@nickhadfield3192 no. it can be normalised and tempered.
@@jackkincaid9705 Send a sample to Underwriters Laboratories ? Nope, that might not be the best idea yet.
Inspiring. You have created an avenue for thousands of makers to try a new craft, some will actually use this to launch a more serious effort, others it will be a cool experiment!
This is awesome to see, never got into it as a hobby because I figured I'd need some good equipment to start, so it's great to know you can build up to that and don't need to spend a bunch of cash to get started!
Charcoal and a foot pump works too. ✌ 😃
Nice instructions. But that propane torch tank sure looks like a MAP gas tank. Just saying because there's a little difference between the two. As one probably wouldn't heat the metal hot enough.
Truth.
This.
@@leggoego mmmm. U confuse me. Maybe I'm to ignorant. Please explain
Yeah it was MAPP gas… I mis-spoke
@@calculatedsurvival I read messages. I apologize. Yeah lots of peoples pointed this out. As Mapp Gas is a stabilize form of Propane and acetylene oxygen enriched. So technically you're right.
Oh that's awesome I never knew you could judge the temperature for heat treating by using a magnet.
you can't it loses magnetism at a irelevant temperature its 725 something and deired ranges feom 750- 1000 depending on the material
Oil is far better for quenching. The water can flash evaporate to steam creating a tiny pocket of gas that will prevent that part of the blade from cooling at the same rate as the rest of it.
Water quench is also more aggressive and greatly increases the likely hood of cracking.
This is brine though which is great for 1095
Water can cause cracks in the steel. Use tempered oil
That's why he added salt
For those of you who want to do this but want to do it cheaper, a hole in the ground will work just fine as a forge. Firewood will get plenty hot enough but you'll need a forced air system. A 3' steel pipe (do not used a galvanized pipe) and a bicycle pump will work fine for a bellows. A piece of railroad track works for an anvil. I've used smooth rocks as anvils. Sure they break but.....
A claw hammer, ball peen hammer, small sledge hammer will work. You just need something to hit the steel with. Files can be had cheaply. Use your imagination.
Good luck!
How long would the filing take for a knife a similar to this one?
Honesty is the best policy. No BS title claiming he's forging a knife when he's not. Straight forward how to make a knife from a piece of steel with limited tools.
Simply Amazing! 👍
Oven temp and time is something ive never heard a knife maker state.
Yea I've been amazed that noone ever shows the tempering process. We always used a toaster oven. Easier to control heat and doesn't heat the whole damn house up lol
“It will kill” 🤣
Keeel
I've actually wanted to do this for a while now you've inspired me to do it much sooner, I was gonna build a Karambit
One of the best diy vids ever. 10/10.
Now THIS was cool! One of the best videos I’ve seen on YT. Thank you bro
Honorable mentions:
1. Metal purchased from Amazone
2. Oven Bricks
3. File
4. Salt
5. Cup
6. Water
7.Oven
8. Sand paper
9. Paracord
Don’t forget…
10. Electricity
11. Money
12. Gloves
13. Tongs
14. Sweet Apron
15. Spare Time
I would like to add :
16. Magnet
17. A 24 grit sanding disc
18. Desire to make something you could most likely buy cheaper on Amazon.
@@adamb8317 yessir and you’re missing a sense of humor
@@danno8852 nope I thought it was kinda funny. It was a tired joke by the time I got to it though.
19. Hands
Also, a propane torch, salt, and Amazon
Hell of a bevel with a grinder 👌🏼
Might be the shortest yet most complete starter video there is 🙌
To every aspiring knife maker, come to the realization that there’s gonna be a point where you’re gonna need to learn to forge. This is a starting point, but don’t linger at this level long. Make a cheap forge, get a piece of cheap railroad for an anvil, a decent quality smithing hammer and get to forging.
Good tip on the railroad I never thought of that! I’m on a budget starting my knife making and an anvil is expensive for me
Also, sanding disk, magnet, fire bricks, salt, water, and an oven...
Don’t forget the metal
Man I feel bad for you, don't have access to a hardware store, running water, an oven, or even salt to put on your food.
@@adamb8317LMFAOO
Don't forget the striker or lighter to light that torch, oh and the air so you can breathe while constructing a knife.
something beautiful about crafting your own knife. especially when done so efficiently with readily available equipment. great vid.
I have a rotorary, a handheld grinder, a Craftsman combo belt and disc, with the blue abrasives. Electric oven, and a torch set. I like his use of water hardening materials. They are considerably, softer than other materials, and can crack when quenching. The draw back times, are kinda extra precautions. One hour per inch, is the most common preference. I have used them all, air hardens are the toughest materials. Plastic mold mirror metals, make pretty finishes. Blades used for camping, and batoning, need tougher materials. Kitchen knives can be thin and hold an edge. A EDC, somewhere in between.
That is a map gas torch. Hotter then propane.
Does not matter.. you can get yourself map gas for any propane torch and do this yourself.
First I would quench in oil if using 1095 especially if you're a beginner. Second I wouldn't use a plastic cup as the quench bath. You can get a gallon of peanut oil, which has a high flash point, for about 15 bucks and an empty paint can for like 3 bucks. Source: me I've made about 30 knives out of 1095 quenched every one in peanut oil and they all came out perfect. Oh don't forget to heat your oil up to about 100 degrees maybe 120 warm oil draws the heat out of the steel faster. Next when you make a blade longer than 4 inches you have to learn how to straighten warped steel, just remember knife makers don't make mistakes they just make smaller knives.
Quenching in brine or parks 50 is usually better for 1095. I use canola oil which is not as aggressive as peanut oil and it still works but it's best to stay safe with parks 50 if you can afford it. Brine is scary since it can lead to cracks, but still better than peanut or canola oil
@@Skidgiz99 oh yeah for sure my comment was specifically for beginner knife makers. I'm still annoyed as fuck by the plastic cup.
@@ragingmoderate6791 lol yeah that's kinda sketchy. My first quench tank was a Tupperware. Melted straight through it. I spilled oil everywhere.
@@Skidgiz99 that's why I'm glad my very safety conscious brother was the one who got me into wanting to make knives. When we were looking for a quench tank I suggested using a Tupperware container and he just gave me this look like is was really dumb.
That edge grind was damn near perfect!! WTF... Shit is not that easy! Good job....
Don’t forget fire bricks, a magnet, belt sander, paracord, and I guess you could include an oven.
Oh hey, internet dumb fuck that loves to ruin stuff. We weren’t waiting for you and you can fuck off now. 😘
Whats the use of the oven?
@SouthGlass when you heat treat it it makes it very hard, which in turn makes it brittle, the oven kind of gets rid of some of the heat treating, but not all of it, getting rid of the brittleness while not making it too soft again
The fire bricks are unnecessary would could argue.
I am a bladesmith and own Alphadog Blades. The only thing you should do is use oil to quinch and don't heat treat twice. Instead heat treat once and quinch in vegetable oil. The water can cause stress fractures. Good job though.
I’ve just started doing research to get into this and have barley scratched the surface. That being said I was reading an article that explained the different quenching mediums for steel types and explained oil, water, brine and air all had their individual purposes. Would you be able to further elaborate on this? Is oil the best medium for blades more specifically?
@@AutonomousVII yes Oil with a high flash point is best. Water will cause metal to have stress fractures down to a microscopic level and inevitably cause blade failure. There are experienced blade smiths who use water but they use it in an exact method.
Oil is far better for a beginner and anyone who doesn't specifically know water techniques etc. The only time I use water or brine is on softer steel to get as much hardness from it as I can. Even when using oil be sure it's not cold. I heat up a large bolt or railroad spike and drop it in my quench oil. This will also to prevent cracks.
@@AutonomousVII also if you use recycled metal you may want to test its carbon content by grinding it and looking at the spark s. The brighter and longer the sparks the more carbon in the steel. They almost look like a mini sparkler.
@@jeffcryptohulkstewart2943 Thanks for getting back to me I appreciate it! I have some old steel from welding projects I want to try and make some blades out of. I also have some old railroad spikes would making a knife out of it be feasible? Would hardening work on it?
@@AutonomousVII when starting out you should use anything you can get your hands on. The more you make the better you get. Mild steel will only harden up so much but if you know you have a mild steel blade then it's no big deal. They dull quickly but also sharpen easy. RR spikes come in varying amounts of carbon. Most are low carbon but I have made some decent knives from them and lots of tomahawk.
Experiment with quench methods on mild steel.
And in oven… And an angle grinder… With a cut off wheel… And the sanding disc… And fire brick… And para cord… With these three items just kidding good video👍🏻
One of the best videos I've ever seen on CZcams...
bro I never thought about just using a blow torch. Thanks for the idea
Very nice my guy 👌🏻💪🏻💪🏻
How to make a knife with and angle grinder, a torch, a c clamp, some fire bricks, sand paper, para cord, magnet, salt, file, and an oven. 😜
For buying the steel I'd recommend looking at your local welding shop. They'll sell them to you the exact amount you need without shipping cost and most of them no taxes too
I appreciate people sharing useful information. Keep up the good work.
Pro-Tip: if a C-clamp is unavailable,
a D-clamp will suffice
We use G clamps where I'm from.
F clamps are a thing
Assholes lol
I'm partial to the ol "v" clamps myself
@@oliverklozhoff the V clamp works very well with the D clamp
This may come in handy, into the pile you go.
Simple, effective and common man supplies. Love the video!!
Well, to be honest. You used the three mentioned, firebricks, paracord, a file, a magnet, and a sand disc. Oh yeah and the steel.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
It is nice to know how to do it I just bought a k bar for thirty five bucks and I'm happy
To be Fair,watching "Forged In Fire" got me wanting to make a Personal Knife, I`ve got the Basics like here,so Nothing Stopping me Now!! Great Vid,Great Skills too!! Thanks!
Ah crap, one of those I guy watch and hey, I could do that. Add to the list of hobbies to pursue
DO IT!! I got into and love it, you wont regret it, it is so rewarding using a knife you made.
@@theruralrenegade8911 hey, do you still make knives ?
Impressive bevels with a grinder
Awesome vid brah!
That forge is bad ass.
Thanks for sharing it😉
Awesome work my guy
That’s actually useful, thanks man!
This matter of fact tutorial just made chumps out of thousands of knife making videos! 👍 😃
Astounding skill…WELL DONE!
Always use patience and persistence as you work. Your skill and technique are amazing
Way cooler than it should’ve been
Damn I needed this video when I was 12 and had many failed attempts at making a knife. Maybe I'll tap into my youth and give it another shot
What do you know I happen to have a slab of 1095 and could easily acquire the rest of that stuff
Nice video and explanation 10/10
Pretty cool, seems like a decent DIY budget knife that doesn’t require a lot of skill, except for grinding part.
You make that grinding look a lot easier than it actually is 😮
Great job! Might try this. 99% of stuff on YT is beyond my idiocracy...I think I could actually do this! Very simple....like me!!! I 😁
Idiocy*
This guy looks like mr beast mixed with captain America
thank you for lowering the bar to entry for so many people afraid to try 👍👍
Great Video! This from a tig welder, with heat treatment processes and many different quenching processes under his belt. USN Avation Structial Mechanic and Cirtified Suport equipment and Aircraft welder.
They didn't bother showing u where spellcheck was tho huh?
my friend and i want to get into knife making and we want to start with this video as inspiration. what material do you recommend for the angle grinder blade to safely cut 1095?
Cut-off wheels work just fine for cutting 1095. They are ceramic and relatively cheap. Just be careful that you don’t twist your angle grinder once you are in the cut. Those blades are fragile at any angle other than straight.
Salt water quench? That’s a new one to try. Probably cheaper than using oil too.
Have you never changed the oil in your car?
I've got like 30gal just lying around from a decade of not being a stupid shit.
@@FartInhalerSlamPoetry mmm, vaporised ball cancer.
@@chaz7346 lmao
10/10 would inhale
@@FartInhalerSlamPoetry ok George Bush, lol
You shouldn't use brine on most steels, it's far to agressive (fast) of a quench, it can cause lots of stress and cracks on the blade.
A DIY video that explains the process. :chef's kiss:
A very nice flowing video and knife!
Nicely done very helpful I have bean wanting to make a knife for so long
.... I can make my own knife!!!! And I can do it with my kids!!! This is way better then when we made walking sticks!! Thank you!!!
Nicely done. I'd love to see the difference in tensile strength of the same steel after a couple different quench methods. I've used a couple different types of oil in the past but never tried the brine.
Most tool steels tell you exactly what you're supposed to use, whether oil, water or air.
That was freaking dope
people always ask me- how long does it take to make a knife?
I say- I can make you one in an hour.
will it cut?
....sure.
Video saved, I needed an excuse to buy more tools and now I have it! I haven't needed an angle grinder or a propane torch but now strangely I do 😂
Nice job,sir!
Yep, I wouldn't use 1095 though. Try 1074 or 1080. They're more forgiving plus 1095 has been problematic due to inconsistencies in certain ingredients such as manganese. This makes quenching problems.
1095 by definition is not supposed to have any manganese just iron and 95 hundredths of one percent carbon it is not however a brine quench steel and you need a much larger quench tub
@@scottjohnson9642 Thanks, from what I've read, it has a little, but too little manganese shortens the time window between forge to quench... regardless of the proper temperature. Many knife makers were having a problem of 1095 knives not hardening during a quench.
I had my own business making knives for years and used high quality 1095 (not from Amazon). It’s a great high carbon steel that is excellent for bushcraft/survival knives since it can be used with a ferro rod for fire starting. Has great edge retention and if quenched and annealed properly will have good hardness without being brittle. But always oil quench.
@@scottjohnson9642that’s wrong. 10xx steels have manganese in them, just like all other steel
My first knife was in 1095. I also quenched it in water rather than oil, and the rapidity of the quench caused cracks to instantly form in the steel. Since brine cools steel even quicker, the cracking issue is likely to be worse.
That's exactly how I started making knifes back when I was 15-16,
An angle grinder and my granddad's torch except I only had a vice.
@@spoopy9689 willing? Not so much, the only reason why my dad (mom too) and Grandpa eventually were okay with the thought of me using a torch and some other tools was that I didn't hurt myself as bad or as much but at 1st they didn't know I was using them till they saw the tank's gauges low or tools out of place. But button line, yes, I got pretty lucky
I can’t be the only one who seen mr beast at first glance
Damn I wanna do this
Wow . I learned a lot. Can you please do one if you don’t have electricity. I know you can . You got skills .
Battery powered grinder and a gas oven...
You can do the tempering with a torch. Heat the blade slowly and carefully from the back until your back/spine is deep blue, but your cutting edge is straw colored. This leaves your cutting edge hard and your back and handle area malleable so they are not brittle and subject to snapping. The hard edge will retain it's edge holding ability and the rest will not be subject to snapping. That's how it has been done for centuries.
Great video👍
Thanks man!
Ohhh... Bro! Nice hack-smithing! It's .. what it is, but damn good job!
Beautiful control on the grinder, make it look easy
I know pretty much every company cuts them out of plate steel, but i like the idea of forging one more, eventhough that is a very very complicated proces. That even if done right coulf go wrong
Dude this is f****** rad thanks for sharing I'm actually going to f****** try this hell yeah I got all that s***
N* f****** p****** b**
Awesome video,GOD BLESS