yeah. Turns out the defense system and monster can be dark bomb'd if you time it right. All these years we were PTSD'd about it. I think I might have accidently found that out but forgot about it because it was so long.
@spkymessage7346 Yeah controller drift is a real variable bsck in the actually good not stupid digital-only days. Dualshock2 controllers are amazing but they do go out. I want to say ours wore out to the extent that like 5-9 of them piled up. All these people nowadays thinking they are playing the game by emulating it on computers with modern processors, increased ram and keyboards are NOT Playing the game. They need to turn of screen recorder and put a high performance splitter into a video encoder card or seperate camera and play the game on the hardware it was released with. Like Gran Turismo 3 and GT4's IA and S License races. It is emprically proven the games and Dualshock2 controllers respond different and NTSC and PAL games even have reported lavels of difficulty. Grown men would go hours, days, weeks trying to achieve those licenses. I loved my PS2 Slimline. Still have it. It has the 499Mhz processor which means slightly better performance than the original PS2. Still have controllers stashed. Basically I prefer bigger heavier more heat dissipating and not fragile frickin stupid planned obselescence design styles of technology. But the slim PS2 was amazing. Still had problems. Controllers wearing out and cords developing increased oxidization resistance at ends, strain reliefs not working and disconnected conductors, plus controller cord extensions increasing line resistance, adding voltage drop and decreasing the time by miliseconds. Milliseconds matter in time trials and when you are operating a racing simulator for Nürburgring Nordschleife. m.czcams.com/video/EIX61Bn00uM/video.html or like piloting a Chaparral 2J going 0 to 140 in 6 or whtever seconds with high tire wear on an endurance race and you need to avoid spinnouts before pitting.
I can see a ton of the points made in this video, but I have gotten used to play Hero mode more than normal over the years. So it was a lot harder for me to entirely agree with you with certain missions but all and all the choices are very fair. Great video.
Tip for the freedom challenge Lurkers: they want to get on the back of your vehicle specifically, so when you are at the low hover zone, swing the car around so that you can have them hop on the back quickly!
And here's another tip: You can leave the lurkers after shooting the vehicles they were trapped in and come back for them later. Especially if you don't trigger the alarm after destroying the vehicles, it becomes a cake walk.
Great list, I got this game when I was 9 years old and it was fun, but I could never get past the race with Errol through the rings. I basically had to set the game aside for a few years until I got better at gaming
I remember that mission made me rage quit so many times I can’t count them lol and then suddenly one day right before school I passed the mission and was so happy I just wanted to get back home and keep playing 😂
This is why I prefer Jak 3. It may have more gimmicky missions, but at least none of them are frustrating and pace breakers like Jak 2’s god awful races.
this is how I would rank jak 2's hardest missions 10. blow up ammo in fortress 9. protect site in dead town 8. get seal piece at dig 7. blow up strip mine eco wells 6. attack the metal head nest 5. rescue friends in fortress 4. destroy 5 hellcat cruisers 3. get seal piece at water slums 2. destroy ship at drill platform 1. hunt haven forest metal heads I'm surprised you didn't include the haven forest metal heads mission in this list. It gave me much more trouble than any other mission in the game, and as a kid I probably spent years stuck on that mission. The invisible invisible metal heads scared the hell out of me and I always ended up dead before I could kill all of them
I just came up with a pretty good method to get through that mission hitless. First kill the four enemies closest to the entrance, then rush underneath the nearest walkway. Here the grenades will all miss and explode on the walkway above hopefully killing some guards in the way. Next kill the two guards on the left platform while you're safe underneath here. Then you wanna go across the chasm and shoot at the two guards down the hill. Then the rest is literally just camping underneath the platforms where the guards are and waiting for them to eliminate each other from friendly fire. I'm routing the whole game for no damage. Some missions will require a lot of creativity,
For the Water Slums mission, if you wanna be a real guy with style, use the hoverboard to escape. The guards won’t get out of the dropships fast enough and you can escape with style.
I feel like the difficulty made the game extra special and rewarding playing it. Also gave you this feeling as if you were in the game as a kid lol 🥹 such a special game mannn I tell you!
Number 8, you can dark bomb the water and destroy the sentry, then you can jetboard through the water. Also number 5 has an exploit where you can destroy the closest 2, return to resistance HQ and upon talking to Torn again, it resets the alert but not the cruisers left to destroy. Then go to next nearest 2, return to base etc. Its still hardish, but much less than all in one go. Especially the hoverbike guards are pain in the ass when they constantly kamikaze you and destroy every vehicle near.
"Given that the subject matter is so heavy, even for a fantasy, it is appropriate that one should have to suffer through it. If it were not punishing, it could not be rewarding. If it were too "fair", it would not be mature. There is a reason why the very people whom you save in this Game end up turning on you by the Third Game: that's how Life is. Heroism is a thankless task.
As such, I think we ought to make a critical distinction in between a "fun" Game, targeted at children, and a [G]ood Game marketed for Adults. _Jak II_ taught me that distinction many years ago, and it has aged well to this day because of it. It is a sobering reminder for developers to shut out the complaints and just to give us what we need, not what we want: *a Challenge."* 🤯👍
For the echo-wells (I was maybe 7 y.o. or so) I first had to find out for a whole hour, how to jump that high to throw the bomb in. I was so frustrated and thought that I wont progress this game anymore
I found a trick that makes the escort and krimson guard mission easier is by using the scatter gun, it knocks down the guards on the ground and they can’t fire when you pass them.
I’m not gonna lie Jak 2 was always my favoritegame ever (now it’s red dead 2) I love all of jak 3s upgrades and light jak(and admittedly some checkpoints😭) but I actually miss the difficulty from jak 2 cuz it was very satisfying to beat a lot of those missions especially as a 6 year old kid it took me quite a while to beat this game 😂😂like for example I think giving a shorter limit To the dark jak ability annoying but it always made you use it at the right and to make every hit count
10- I do agree here, but there is a trick to this. When I streamed the game. There's a ramp you go to going straight from the portal, climb it and grind on the top rail that's carrying the crates and get that first, then go down the curve to go to the other longer path to the other well, after that jump down to the left and the rest are straightforward. 9 - For me probably the hardest platforming/adventure section of the game. Checkpoint system is BS and the enemies are very aggressive. 8- I do this very exact tactic for this mission. Actually I think dodging all the enemies was intended for this mission, because I think the enemies don't stop coming. I could be wrong here though... 7 - This mission does suck I agree. 6 - I don't find these missions that bad. I may be the black sheep here, but I think they are worse in Jak 3. 5 - I. HATE. THIS. PIECE. OF. SHIT. MISSION. Second worst in my opinion. 4 - I do agree that they are hard, but they are fun. I like practicing the shortcuts and stuff. 3 - Though I do agree this mission to be annoying, I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be. I mean the guys will tell you when there are enemies crawling down the ceiling or if they are coming from behind and they stay behind for you to destroy the ones that shoot the electrical beams so they don't get hit by them. Yes, it's annoying but the guys let you know what is happening so you can react so I dunno. The only really annoying part with this mission is the last room with all the enemies coming straight at once. That part I can see why people get mad. Other than that, I don't think it's the worst thing ever. 2 - WORST. MISSION. IN. THE. GAME. I HATE THIS STUPID RACE WITH ERROL! So yes I agree, I also have a personal vendetta with Errol because of this stupid mission...I hate this guy. Honorable mentions: For the bomb bots I just stand underneath and shoot them while they are moving just stand underneath them. Makes the mission rather tame. Protecting Samos in Haven Forest really depends on RNG IMO, sometimes I have good luck and save him really easily, or at times I just get screwed over...The Weapons lab is just natural hard platforming to me. Eh...the titan suit water part was much worse IMO. 1 - OMG yes I have done Hero Mode and I am still stuck on this very exact mission. In Normal Mode, yes the mission is whatever I agree. But in Hero Mode, this mission is a WHOLE nother beast entirely. I am still stuck on this very mission. I can't get through the first part. There's a whole wikia about this mission in Hero Mode. It shows how stupid this is. Despite that though, I do enjoy the game for what it is. Yes Jak 3 is better IMO, but I do enjoy Jak 2. But I do agree Hero Mode is not worth it. People will get stuck on that Drill platform mission in that game, no matter what happens. If people say they got it on their first try, they're downright WRONG! Great video man. Your list was good.
To add another heaping of BS onto your #2 spot: Errol can also avoid accelerator rings with no consequence. I know from a mechanics perspective they can't have you win like that, but during that cutscene where Errol arrogantly challenges you and is up in your face, it adds another level of player frustration.
I recently ordered an PS5 specifically to play the Jack and Daxter games, and boom… this appeared on my recommended, thanks for the list man, this is going to help my inner 12 year old get through some levels (never finished Jack II).
For me it was the parrot mini game and the jet board high score mission. Those made me put the game down as a kid lol but I always went back looking to beat it
Yeah, for how much Jak 2 is hailed as "the best of the trilogy" by some people, there sure are a lot of needlessly hard missions, and it's not like the game is uniformly difficult, there are absolutely occasional spikes here and there that make the whole experience a bit scatterbrained imo, Jak 3 feels a lot better as a whole. If ever someone takes on the task of remaking the original games, I would love to see a rework for those turret sections and the NYFE races, an option for more checkpoints, and most importantly revamped gunplay, good lord I'll never understand why something so fundamental was so utterly and completely mismanaged, it kinda works as an extension of Jak's melee moveset at the best of times, but some missions demand you to shoot far away enemies with no manual lock-on or strafing, it's somewhat manageable, depending on the distance of your target, but it just never felt right at all, it never really does, no matter how many times I play this game, that auto lock-on will absolutely screw you over the moment you need it most.
10. Easy as an adult. Tough when I played as kid. 9. Yeah, a bit tough but not too bad. Key is to know the triggers for enemy spawns. You can kill the first four enemies in that first hallway before any of the reinforcements come in. Those reinforcements' spawn trigger is after you turn the first corner of the walkway. Then just vulcan fury stunlock your way into the room at the end where the trigger for the end of the infinite respawns ends. 8. Dark bomb into water then hover baord out. But yes, casually, on a first playthrough it's a pain. The dash method is also very nice. Or you can be a tryhard and hover glitch high above and out. 7. Dead easy. Just gotta watch the minimap, once you realise that it's a cinch. 6. Annoying but middle of the difficulty scale. If they take a long time you just need to make sure the passenger side is facing the checkpoint. The worst part is the kamikaze krimzon guard, but they be avoided by watching the minimap for large red dots and evading them by ducking underneath traffic. 5. Yeah no notes. This mission is a pain, mostly because of the kamikaze krimzons. Guards tend to drop a lot of vulcan fury ammo. 4. No notes, completely agree but it's a skill issue at the same time. I'm just not good at driving games. Also: "OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY", Dax shut the fuck up! 3. Annoying, definitely not easy. But very manageable. Just a matter of using the right tools for the right job. Scatter gun for early parts with some blaster and save all vulcan fury for final encounter. Make sure to just tap instead of holding since it only takes a few shots to kill the enemies. 2. Fuckin' hard, no notes. I actually saw one of the most competitive Jak 2 speedrunners lose a 100% run to this because he only got a silver. 1. Haven't tried it on Hero Mode but I believe you. For me the hardest is probably city race with bombots somewhere in the top 3 as well.
10. Never had too much difficulty with this one even as a kid. Generally can get 4 done in under a minute, and clear the mission with around 27 seconds on the clock left 9. Bit trickier, what it really boils down to are just knowing the enemy placements and planning accordingly. 8. Figured out this one as a kid without looking it up. Learned that punching wasn't just an attack, but a movement option 7. similar to 10, I never failed this mission too often. the simple advice is to just pay attention to the radar. when the blue dot is flashing, shoot in that general area as much as possible. 6. make it a habit to swap vehicles frequently. and always fly low. Every one of those the cops will be after you anyway. the least you can do is avoid vehicles crashing into you 5. see first sentence in #6, but yeah this mission is definitely a pain. The biggest reason being way too difficult to refill your ammo, which you NEED, but also because it actually forces you to fly high leading to many KGs crashing into you to destroy your vehicle. I beat this one dying in the final cruiser explosion 4. Fuck. ALL OF THESE. they control like fucking ASS. Is this what vehicle missions feel like for everyone that hates vehicle missions? Unironically if they controlled like the vehicles in the overworld, they wouldn't even be bad. 3. Fun fact this one is hard because of a developer mistake. You were actually supposed to get a checkpoint after the cutscene, but it was never implemented. this one is hard, but I don't think to the same degree as the previous 2. 2. this one is for sure a challenge, but I can mostly handle it due to as stated before, vehicles at least control better in the overworld. HM1: once again the main difficulty is just running out of ammo HM2: I maintain this is entirely dictated by luck HM3: never had a problem with this one HM4: unironically one of the easiest missions for me. 1. Yep absolutely. Fuck everything about this mission.
I just finished Jak 2 & 3. I finished 1 a couple years ago. As a kid Jak 2 seemed hard but playing it as a young adult, I didn't struggle like I thought I would. I did die a couple of times but not enough to rage quit. Did anyone else have a similar experience of it being hard as a kid and easier as an adult?
Honestly, I've played and beaten his game so many times, its not even that hard to me anymore. I don't struggle with drill platform turret mission (I even beat on my second try in hero mode), the sewer escort mission doesn't phase me and I can cheese the slum mission easily. The only mission that usually gives me shit is the race with Erol because of how bad the rubber banding is.
The name of the game in jak 2 is the same as it was in jak 1..... Precision..... Except it's presented in a more mature format. They give you a challenge to master rather than just complete. Jak 2 really did something special with platforming and mechanics that Naughty Dog had already built in their legacy of 3d platforming...... And they somehow turned it in to an early form of open world and threw jak in to an Orwellian dystopia infused with a scifi war story..... Way to make a more mature game than GTA and get it rated T
the only difficult mission is the turret one in the dig, where you have to take down 40 or something guards. Once i manage to pass that section *in hero mode* it all a walk in the park.
DUDE FUCK THE DIG MISSION SPECIFICALLY THE ONE WITH THE KRIMSON GUARDS OMFG DUDE THE TURRET SECTION OF THIS GAME CAN GO FUCK ITSELF GODDAM MAN EVEN IN JAK 3 WITH THE TURRET IN THE WASTELAND AGANST THE GISNT TENTACLE ROBOTS OMFG I OUTRIGHT AVOIDED THAT MISSION FOR SO LONG I HATED IT
This comment section is getting better and better and better. Like a huge family reunion from the good old days :) PS2 processor hauled butt for it's time. I like heavy stuff but the PS2 Slim was superb. Loved that console. any processor gain was probbly offset by controller cord extensions.
Number 8 mission You know you can just jetboard through the docks becuase they dont have time to fall out of the drop ship and shoot you kek, funny how people had trouble with this mission Number 7: Not that hard, just keep an eye on the minimap to see where the bad guys are coming from. ALso theres a mechanical cheat you can exploit, if you dont rotate your camera, the guards wont spawn behind you or AT ALL, try to keep the camera at a specific field of view for minimal spawnage. NUmber 5: Bro i ddid this one my first try as a kid, the trick is to go directly behind them on a path where theyre going STRAIGHT, with no turns, it takes exactly 13 hits with the vulcan barrel to kill one. Which is 2.5 seconds, pretty much. Dont start shooting them from the side and it wont be a problem. 12:36 Thats not the Dig, thats the Platform. And yes its only hard on Hero Mode, its almost impossible. The rest are well deserved places. Theyre all hard. Nice video man. My top 7 hardest missons: 7. Breaking into the fortress DUH. 6. Escorting lurkers, simply because they can fall in the water when you destroy the ship and its game over, its so annoying, also by the time they climb onto you, youre dead. 5. Errols city race, the race literally has to be flawless to win its absurd, the class races are much easier since its 5 laps and no mandatory rings, just gotta learn the map a little. 4. Protecting Samos in the forest, it sucks cus theres no minimap to exploit the guards where they are, samos dies in a few hits, the camera is fucking broken and sabotages you against the jetpack guards since theyre out of frame constantly. 3.Destroying the drill at the Dig, man thats so cringe, the guards there DO NOT stop shooting no matter the range, they intentionally ram into you when you are close range on the jetboard and stop you in place to get 3 more hits asap and youre dead, they stun lock you in place if you dont get off the board and kill them. Your options are to kill all the guards and do this slowly and lose patience all the time, or try to do this fast with the jetboard and hope you dont get hit by anything. 2. Getting to the top of the weapon factory 💀 1. The turret mission on Hero Mode 💀 It took me 3 hours to finish it once....
That race through the rings mission had me rage quit countless times as a kid lol
To overcome the Water Slums Seal Piece mission, use Dark Jak's Dark Bomb (if you have it) into the water and you can roam on it safely
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Say what???!!!!
yeah. Turns out the defense system and monster can be dark bomb'd if you time it right. All these years we were PTSD'd about it.
I think I might have accidently found that out but forgot about it because it was so long.
@@7th_Heaven no fucking way, for real? I must’ve destroyed 2 controllers alone because of that mission 😭😭
@spkymessage7346 Yeah controller drift is a real variable bsck in the actually good not stupid digital-only days. Dualshock2 controllers are amazing but they do go out. I want to say ours wore out to the extent that like 5-9 of them piled up.
All these people nowadays thinking they are playing the game by emulating it on computers with modern processors, increased ram and keyboards are NOT Playing the game. They need to turn of screen recorder and put a high performance splitter into a video encoder card or seperate camera and play the game on the hardware it was released with.
Like Gran Turismo 3 and GT4's IA and S License races. It is emprically proven the games and Dualshock2 controllers respond different and NTSC and PAL games even have reported lavels of difficulty. Grown men would go hours, days, weeks trying to achieve those licenses.
I loved my PS2 Slimline. Still have it. It has the 499Mhz processor which means slightly better performance than the original PS2. Still have controllers stashed. Basically I prefer bigger heavier more heat dissipating and not fragile frickin stupid planned obselescence design styles of technology. But the slim PS2 was amazing.
Still had problems. Controllers wearing out and cords developing increased oxidization resistance at ends, strain reliefs not working and disconnected conductors, plus controller cord extensions increasing line resistance, adding voltage drop and decreasing the time by miliseconds. Milliseconds matter in time trials and when you are operating a racing simulator for Nürburgring Nordschleife. m.czcams.com/video/EIX61Bn00uM/video.html
or like piloting a Chaparral 2J going 0 to 140 in 6 or whtever seconds with high tire wear on an endurance race and you need to avoid spinnouts before pitting.
At number 8 you can also escape with the jet board. Just don't fall into the water xD
I can see a ton of the points made in this video, but I have gotten used to play Hero mode more than normal over the years. So it was a lot harder for me to entirely agree with you with certain missions but all and all the choices are very fair. Great video.
Hero mode's fun
Tip for the freedom challenge Lurkers: they want to get on the back of your vehicle specifically, so when you are at the low hover zone, swing the car around so that you can have them hop on the back quickly!
And here's another tip:
You can leave the lurkers after shooting the vehicles they were trapped in and come back for them later. Especially if you don't trigger the alarm after destroying the vehicles, it becomes a cake walk.
That turret mission is BIG pain in the neck.
Great list, I got this game when I was 9 years old and it was fun, but I could never get past the race with Errol through the rings. I basically had to set the game aside for a few years until I got better at gaming
I remember that mission made me rage quit so many times I can’t count them lol and then suddenly one day right before school I passed the mission and was so happy I just wanted to get back home and keep playing 😂
This is why I prefer Jak 3. It may have more gimmicky missions, but at least none of them are frustrating and pace breakers like Jak 2’s god awful races.
this is how I would rank jak 2's hardest missions
10. blow up ammo in fortress
9. protect site in dead town
8. get seal piece at dig
7. blow up strip mine eco wells
6. attack the metal head nest
5. rescue friends in fortress
4. destroy 5 hellcat cruisers
3. get seal piece at water slums
2. destroy ship at drill platform
1. hunt haven forest metal heads
I'm surprised you didn't include the haven forest metal heads mission in this list. It gave me much more trouble than any other mission in the game, and as a kid I probably spent years stuck on that mission. The invisible invisible metal heads scared the hell out of me and I always ended up dead before I could kill all of them
All the invisible metal heads are listed on your map! You can see them and plan ahead which makes it much easier
Surprised to not see Destroy the Drill as an Honorable mention here
I just came up with a pretty good method to get through that mission hitless. First kill the four enemies closest to the entrance, then rush underneath the nearest walkway. Here the grenades will all miss and explode on the walkway above hopefully killing some guards in the way. Next kill the two guards on the left platform while you're safe underneath here. Then you wanna go across the chasm and shoot at the two guards down the hill. Then the rest is literally just camping underneath the platforms where the guards are and waiting for them to eliminate each other from friendly fire.
I'm routing the whole game for no damage. Some missions will require a lot of creativity,
I was specially looking for this, the range of the grenadier guards is ridiculous.
For the Water Slums mission, if you wanna be a real guy with style, use the hoverboard to escape.
The guards won’t get out of the dropships fast enough and you can escape with style.
I feel like the difficulty made the game extra special and rewarding playing it. Also gave you this feeling as if you were in the game as a kid lol 🥹 such a special game mannn I tell you!
Thanks for reminding me why this Game's *PERFECT.*
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Number 8, you can dark bomb the water and destroy the sentry, then you can jetboard through the water. Also number 5 has an exploit where you can destroy the closest 2, return to resistance HQ and upon talking to Torn again, it resets the alert but not the cruisers left to destroy. Then go to next nearest 2, return to base etc. Its still hardish, but much less than all in one go. Especially the hoverbike guards are pain in the ass when they constantly kamikaze you and destroy every vehicle near.
I played this game a lot when I was a kid. You just gave me anxiety.
Great video tho!
"Given that the subject matter is so heavy, even for a fantasy, it is appropriate that one should have to suffer through it. If it were not punishing, it could not be rewarding. If it were too "fair", it would not be mature. There is a reason why the very people whom you save in this Game end up turning on you by the Third Game: that's how Life is. Heroism is a thankless task.
As such, I think we ought to make a critical distinction in between a "fun" Game, targeted at children, and a [G]ood Game marketed for Adults. _Jak II_ taught me that distinction many years ago, and it has aged well to this day because of it. It is a sobering reminder for developers to shut out the complaints and just to give us what we need, not what we want: *a Challenge."* 🤯👍
For the echo-wells (I was maybe 7 y.o. or so) I first had to find out for a whole hour, how to jump that high to throw the bomb in. I was so frustrated and thought that I wont progress this game anymore
I found a trick that makes the escort and krimson guard mission easier is by using the scatter gun, it knocks down the guards on the ground and they can’t fire when you pass them.
I’m not gonna lie Jak 2 was always my favoritegame ever (now it’s red dead 2) I love all of jak 3s upgrades and light jak(and admittedly some checkpoints😭) but I actually miss the difficulty from jak 2 cuz it was very satisfying to beat a lot of those missions especially as a 6 year old kid it took me quite a while to beat this game 😂😂like for example I think giving a shorter limit
To the dark jak ability annoying but it always made you use it at the right and to make every hit count
I didn't do the exploit so that was extremely hard for me. The seal at the slums.
6 year old me rage quit the game on that timed bomb defusal mission that has you flying around Haven city on a motorbike.
Explore the palace is the absolute worst mission ever and the devs deserve to slip on bananas for not adding a single checkpoint in that level
To be fair lack of checkpoints in the slums is understandable. There's not really much area to traverse
This is my first and only jak game i played and it was fun and hard as a kid in 2009 or 2010 or 2011. Dark jak was fun and bad ass.
10- I do agree here, but there is a trick to this. When I streamed the game. There's a ramp you go to going straight from the portal, climb it and grind on the top rail that's carrying the crates and get that first, then go down the curve to go to the other longer path to the other well, after that jump down to the left and the rest are straightforward.
9 - For me probably the hardest platforming/adventure section of the game. Checkpoint system is BS and the enemies are very aggressive.
8- I do this very exact tactic for this mission. Actually I think dodging all the enemies was intended for this mission, because I think the enemies don't stop coming. I could be wrong here though...
7 - This mission does suck I agree.
6 - I don't find these missions that bad. I may be the black sheep here, but I think they are worse in Jak 3.
5 - I. HATE. THIS. PIECE. OF. SHIT. MISSION. Second worst in my opinion.
4 - I do agree that they are hard, but they are fun. I like practicing the shortcuts and stuff.
3 - Though I do agree this mission to be annoying, I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be. I mean the guys will tell you when there are enemies crawling down the ceiling or if they are coming from behind and they stay behind for you to destroy the ones that shoot the electrical beams so they don't get hit by them. Yes, it's annoying but the guys let you know what is happening so you can react so I dunno. The only really annoying part with this mission is the last room with all the enemies coming straight at once. That part I can see why people get mad. Other than that, I don't think it's the worst thing ever.
2 - WORST. MISSION. IN. THE. GAME. I HATE THIS STUPID RACE WITH ERROL! So yes I agree, I also have a personal vendetta with Errol because of this stupid mission...I hate this guy.
Honorable mentions: For the bomb bots I just stand underneath and shoot them while they are moving just stand underneath them. Makes the mission rather tame. Protecting Samos in Haven Forest really depends on RNG IMO, sometimes I have good luck and save him really easily, or at times I just get screwed over...The Weapons lab is just natural hard platforming to me. Eh...the titan suit water part was much worse IMO.
1 - OMG yes I have done Hero Mode and I am still stuck on this very exact mission. In Normal Mode, yes the mission is whatever I agree. But in Hero Mode, this mission is a WHOLE nother beast entirely. I am still stuck on this very mission. I can't get through the first part. There's a whole wikia about this mission in Hero Mode. It shows how stupid this is.
Despite that though, I do enjoy the game for what it is. Yes Jak 3 is better IMO, but I do enjoy Jak 2. But I do agree Hero Mode is not worth it. People will get stuck on that Drill platform mission in that game, no matter what happens. If people say they got it on their first try, they're downright WRONG! Great video man. Your list was good.
To add another heaping of BS onto your #2 spot: Errol can also avoid accelerator rings with no consequence. I know from a mechanics perspective they can't have you win like that, but during that cutscene where Errol arrogantly challenges you and is up in your face, it adds another level of player frustration.
I recently ordered an PS5 specifically to play the Jack and Daxter games, and boom… this appeared on my recommended, thanks for the list man, this is going to help my inner 12 year old get through some levels (never finished Jack II).
For me it was the parrot mini game and the jet board high score mission. Those made me put the game down as a kid lol but I always went back looking to beat it
eco wells isn't hard if you know how to boost on the jet board
First time i played it, I played a PS Vita version that had trouble with optimization, and somehow i managed to complete it
Yeah, for how much Jak 2 is hailed as "the best of the trilogy" by some people, there sure are a lot of needlessly hard missions, and it's not like the game is uniformly difficult, there are absolutely occasional spikes here and there that make the whole experience a bit scatterbrained imo, Jak 3 feels a lot better as a whole.
If ever someone takes on the task of remaking the original games, I would love to see a rework for those turret sections and the NYFE races, an option for more checkpoints, and most importantly revamped gunplay, good lord I'll never understand why something so fundamental was so utterly and completely mismanaged, it kinda works as an extension of Jak's melee moveset at the best of times, but some missions demand you to shoot far away enemies with no manual lock-on or strafing, it's somewhat manageable, depending on the distance of your target, but it just never felt right at all, it never really does, no matter how many times I play this game, that auto lock-on will absolutely screw you over the moment you need it most.
For the seal of mar one you can just spam the punch button all the way to the mission end
10. Easy as an adult. Tough when I played as kid.
9. Yeah, a bit tough but not too bad. Key is to know the triggers for enemy spawns. You can kill the first four enemies in that first hallway before any of the reinforcements come in. Those reinforcements' spawn trigger is after you turn the first corner of the walkway. Then just vulcan fury stunlock your way into the room at the end where the trigger for the end of the infinite respawns ends.
8. Dark bomb into water then hover baord out. But yes, casually, on a first playthrough it's a pain. The dash method is also very nice. Or you can be a tryhard and hover glitch high above and out.
7. Dead easy. Just gotta watch the minimap, once you realise that it's a cinch.
6. Annoying but middle of the difficulty scale. If they take a long time you just need to make sure the passenger side is facing the checkpoint. The worst part is the kamikaze krimzon guard, but they be avoided by watching the minimap for large red dots and evading them by ducking underneath traffic.
5. Yeah no notes. This mission is a pain, mostly because of the kamikaze krimzons. Guards tend to drop a lot of vulcan fury ammo.
4. No notes, completely agree but it's a skill issue at the same time. I'm just not good at driving games. Also: "OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY", Dax shut the fuck up!
3. Annoying, definitely not easy. But very manageable. Just a matter of using the right tools for the right job. Scatter gun for early parts with some blaster and save all vulcan fury for final encounter. Make sure to just tap instead of holding since it only takes a few shots to kill the enemies.
2. Fuckin' hard, no notes. I actually saw one of the most competitive Jak 2 speedrunners lose a 100% run to this because he only got a silver.
1. Haven't tried it on Hero Mode but I believe you. For me the hardest is probably city race with bombots somewhere in the top 3 as well.
Great video
10. Never had too much difficulty with this one even as a kid. Generally can get 4 done in under a minute, and clear the mission with around 27 seconds on the clock left
9. Bit trickier, what it really boils down to are just knowing the enemy placements and planning accordingly.
8. Figured out this one as a kid without looking it up. Learned that punching wasn't just an attack, but a movement option
7. similar to 10, I never failed this mission too often. the simple advice is to just pay attention to the radar. when the blue dot is flashing, shoot in that general area as much as possible.
6. make it a habit to swap vehicles frequently. and always fly low. Every one of those the cops will be after you anyway. the least you can do is avoid vehicles crashing into you
5. see first sentence in #6, but yeah this mission is definitely a pain. The biggest reason being way too difficult to refill your ammo, which you NEED, but also because it actually forces you to fly high leading to many KGs crashing into you to destroy your vehicle. I beat this one dying in the final cruiser explosion
4. Fuck. ALL OF THESE. they control like fucking ASS. Is this what vehicle missions feel like for everyone that hates vehicle missions? Unironically if they controlled like the vehicles in the overworld, they wouldn't even be bad.
3. Fun fact this one is hard because of a developer mistake. You were actually supposed to get a checkpoint after the cutscene, but it was never implemented. this one is hard, but I don't think to the same degree as the previous 2.
2. this one is for sure a challenge, but I can mostly handle it due to as stated before, vehicles at least control better in the overworld.
HM1: once again the main difficulty is just running out of ammo
HM2: I maintain this is entirely dictated by luck
HM3: never had a problem with this one
HM4: unironically one of the easiest missions for me.
1. Yep absolutely. Fuck everything about this mission.
I just finished Jak 2 & 3. I finished 1 a couple years ago. As a kid Jak 2 seemed hard but playing it as a young adult, I didn't struggle like I thought I would. I did die a couple of times but not enough to rage quit. Did anyone else have a similar experience of it being hard as a kid and easier as an adult?
Great list. This game is unbelievably terrible.
I had to step away, i about damn near destroyed my ps controller and my tv at the same time on #3
before Wii was... Jak n ye
Honestly, I've played and beaten his game so many times, its not even that hard to me anymore. I don't struggle with drill platform turret mission (I even beat on my second try in hero mode), the sewer escort mission doesn't phase me and I can cheese the slum mission easily. The only mission that usually gives me shit is the race with Erol because of how bad the rubber banding is.
Used the jet board on the first seal to fly past all the crimson guards.
I litterally rolled jumped through the whole water slums seal piece mission and beat it in 3 mins I was so proud 😭
Use punch only in the water slum mission... nothing has time to target you ;)
I really thought that the Onin game would be on this list!
It's made trivial by the fact you can pause during the game. You can effectively stutter play that to cheese it.
number 8 i always hop on the jet board and after 4-5 trys i make it but the dash exploit looks sooooo much easier wtf
The name of the game in jak 2 is the same as it was in jak 1..... Precision..... Except it's presented in a more mature format. They give you a challenge to master rather than just complete. Jak 2 really did something special with platforming and mechanics that Naughty Dog had already built in their legacy of 3d platforming...... And they somehow turned it in to an early form of open world and threw jak in to an Orwellian dystopia infused with a scifi war story..... Way to make a more mature game than GTA and get it rated T
Last mision i did with howerboard glitch it' to easy
Salute from CRO 💪
the only difficult mission is the turret one in the dig, where you have to take down 40 or something guards.
Once i manage to pass that section *in hero mode* it all a walk in the park.
Nice
I recently replayed and ended jak I, I saw this video cause I was planning to replay also Jak II but now im not so sure...
There's strategies online that can make these missions "a lot" more bearable. I recommend replaying.
do it in Hero Mode with the original PS2 and Dualshock2 controller. You get your money's worth from the game. It is soooo good
I still had a good time 💪
DUDE FUCK THE DIG MISSION SPECIFICALLY THE ONE WITH THE KRIMSON GUARDS OMFG DUDE THE TURRET SECTION OF THIS GAME CAN GO FUCK ITSELF GODDAM MAN
EVEN IN JAK 3 WITH THE TURRET IN THE WASTELAND AGANST THE GISNT TENTACLE ROBOTS OMFG I OUTRIGHT AVOIDED THAT MISSION FOR SO LONG I HATED IT
This comment section is getting better and better and better. Like a huge family reunion from the good old days :)
PS2 processor hauled butt for it's time. I like heavy stuff but the PS2 Slim was superb. Loved that console.
any processor gain was probbly offset by controller cord extensions.
My 1 is tent mission
So throw out my jak 2 disc?
noooooo!
Number 8 mission
You know you can just jetboard through the docks becuase they dont have time to fall out of the drop ship and shoot you kek, funny how people had trouble with this mission
Number 7: Not that hard, just keep an eye on the minimap to see where the bad guys are coming from. ALso theres a mechanical cheat you can exploit, if you dont rotate your camera, the guards wont spawn behind you or AT ALL, try to keep the camera at a specific field of view for minimal spawnage.
NUmber 5: Bro i ddid this one my first try as a kid, the trick is to go directly behind them on a path where theyre going STRAIGHT, with no turns, it takes exactly 13 hits with the vulcan barrel to kill one. Which is 2.5 seconds, pretty much. Dont start shooting them from the side and it wont be a problem.
12:36 Thats not the Dig, thats the Platform. And yes its only hard on Hero Mode, its almost impossible.
The rest are well deserved places. Theyre all hard. Nice video man.
My top 7 hardest missons:
7. Breaking into the fortress DUH.
6. Escorting lurkers, simply because they can fall in the water when you destroy the ship and its game over, its so annoying, also by the time they climb onto you, youre dead.
5. Errols city race, the race literally has to be flawless to win its absurd, the class races are much easier since its 5 laps and no mandatory rings, just gotta learn the map a little.
4. Protecting Samos in the forest, it sucks cus theres no minimap to exploit the guards where they are, samos dies in a few hits, the camera is fucking broken and sabotages you against the jetpack guards since theyre out of frame constantly.
3.Destroying the drill at the Dig, man thats so cringe, the guards there DO NOT stop shooting no matter the range, they intentionally ram into you when you are close range on the jetboard and stop you in place to get 3 more hits asap and youre dead, they stun lock you in place if you dont get off the board and kill them. Your options are to kill all the guards and do this slowly and lose patience all the time, or try to do this fast with the jetboard and hope you dont get hit by anything.
2. Getting to the top of the weapon factory 💀
1. The turret mission on Hero Mode 💀
It took me 3 hours to finish it once....
Great video! i will never understand why people rank this game the best in the franchise.. its just unfinished and infuriating