The End of the Sony RX100
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Today we are talking about the iPhone vs the Sony rx100 point and shoot.
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How many photo comparisons did you get right??
End! don't let me laugh!
Good video! Enjoyed the comparison. Nice meeting you the other day
Every single one. You clearly see what is what.
awesome video! i think the RX100 easily outperforms the iphone though. the zoom range was left out of the test, which is one of the RX100's biggest features. having a 24-200 lens in a body that size is insane and it EASILY beats the iphone in telephoto mode. this completely changes what youre able to shoot. and i know it wasnt about pixel peeping/zooming in, but if you did, youd notice more how good the RX100 really is. especially at the long end of the zoom compared to the iphone. also being able to have full manual control without additional apps and stuff is very nice. i do think the iphone wins for video though.
I agree with everything you said (although not 100% sure about the last thing you said about video though).
The fact that I agree I the exact reason though why I don’t think this is an “awesome video”. I don’t mean to throw hate and yes he did mention some interesting views and I appreciate that he made this video (and that why I watched in to the end).
I just can’t agree with almost everything he said in the video
True, but then iPhone camera doesn't get stuck without any reason. iPhone doesn't have a power turn off and then on problem.
@@arindombaidya4951 i hear you, but i’ve never experienced any of those issues with the RX100. i have, however, experienced plenty of issues with my phone. not all of them camera related, but it’s something to consider when using a phone as a main camera. if i have the choice between using a camera for photography or a phone, i will always choose the camera out of principle even if it takes objectively worse photos. my camera isn’t sending me notifications or taking calls while i’m taking photos. i hate using a phone as a main camera because there are too many distractions
@@arindombaidya4951 I’ve personally never had any of those troubles with any camera (smartphone, pocket camera (like my rx100 Mk iv), dslr or mirror less) whatsoever
@@ChristianElia those distractions are definitely a good point
It was very easy to tell the difference between the two if you ask me. The natural bokeh of the RX100 gave it away almost every single shot, and if that wasn't the case, it was easy to tell the iPhone pictures were oversharpened. At 2:00 as you say you can't give either one a victory, you clearly show two pictures with one being far superior to the other.. the sony.
Excellent point
Interesting test but :
1) You only compare the iPhone and the RX100 based on what you can already do with an iPhone. No telephoto, no HDR or low light test.
2) Shooting such a small product (the watch) in good lights can be done with any phone camera. Portrait might look better on the RX because of natural bokeh and longer focal.
3) For video, the iPhone might have an edge. The image pops more and video is stabilised out of camera.
4) For artistic purposes, the iPhone lacks manual controls. It becomes accessible only with a third party app. Whereas you can control almost every settings on a P&S camera.
5) You might need to change phone after 2 years. But you could buy an RX100 from 5 years ago and still be happy with it.
For everyday use and for the average guy, iPhone is definetely the way to go. But for any hobbyist, the RX100 still has a lot of value. Also, it's not forbidden to work with both together !
This just proves the idea of enjoying the process. So often it’s easy to get stuck on the spec sheet comparison but if you have a camera that you enjoy using and makes you creative then that is the winner. Regardless if that’s your phone because you know you will have it or an older point and shoot. If I’m taking a picture with my phone it’s just to capture it quickly and I don’t have a camera but having a dedicated camera lets me enter the mindset and not get a text message or Instagram notification that distracts me like on a phone. Modern cameras are amazing there’s no doubt that cameras are very impressive and you can have some amazing quality pictures with most models. Sometimes it’s not about the quality it’s about the creativity.
Great video! The funny thing is, two years ago I wouldn't have said it would. Although now with the recent Gen z craze of using 'retro' point and shoot cameras. It's clear that people don't want over processed and 'clinical' imagery. It takes the fun out of the moment and the memory. Plus it makes everyone's images look the same with no uniqueness.
I came here to comment the same. Haha. They certainly have made a comeback IMO
yeah specially with the Fuji x100v hype! people want those retro-looking images more and more
I concur to what you said, had to shell out some dough for my daughter’s new hobby. And here we are with an olympus mju iii and rolls of film …. 😅😂😅
@@pascalbraendle Its not only the retro style pictures. You can get these with any camera or phone and some cool filters.
What the X100 gets right is the feeling of taking pictures. Having a nice body in your hands, looking through the viewfinder and taking a shot. Its like a big camera just more compact and with body thats pretty to look at. But the X100 is still way bigger and heavier than an RX100 or your phone.
The RX100 is just a tiny camera that can take really great pictures but so is your phone. But it lacks the convenience of instantly editing and sharing pictures and at the same time it also lacks a good grip and viewfinder because its so small.
Believe it or not, what I really love about the RX100 is the selfies. I really like the look of wide angle portraits with a nice natural bokeh that the RX100 takes at close or medium distance and the flip up screen makes them very easy to take. The selfie cam on the phone usually isnt that great and using the main camera can be tricky to frame.
Well put. Smartphones are efficient tools for documenting life, but they aren’t a whole lot of fun to use.
If you’re showing them to a photographer, they’ll probably tell the difference; if showing it to a client/social media it’s negligible and most won’t know unless you mention it
One big advantage to the point and shoot is the ability to get longer telephoto zoom. I also do love the ccd point and shoots
I bought the iPhone specifically for airdrop. I don’t have any of those problems airdropping to my Mac, the DNG raw files go straight to my downloads folder as plain files, no folders. But also, when I finish editing photos on my Mac from my Sony, I airdrop it to the iPhone to post to IG. I love the system, no cables or card reading dongles, it’s so easy.
same
Personally I prefer the ergonomics of a dedicated camera and it makes me shoot more / better when I have I dedicated camera in my hands. Also... I think the key difference with an Iphone and RX100 is the focal range and the AF speed / accuracy. I love having something that goes to 200mm effective, and I find that it can capture fast moving action at those longer focal lengths. I also know that in lower light the RX100 cameras create usable shots whereas phone cameras don't. I took one to my friends wedding and they chose a bunch of my shots over the professional photographer's - even when it was lower light. I do think that most people can get by with just a phone, and they did kill most point and shoot cameras... but... I still think there are still scenarios where they make sense... and I think thats partially why Sony changed from 24-70mm to 24-200mm effective...
I may be old fashioned. I have 32,000 photos on my iPhone, but I’ve never used that device to “make” a photograph, and it has never occurred to me to think of the files as photographs. The RX100m7 is a tool that activates an entirely different head space.
My question is how was the zoom capability comparison? I find the iPhone doesn't give me the reach I want for long-range photos. Did you compare those?
Good choice for only testing the wide lens on the iphone. I’ve noticed that when i used the 3x camera, most of the time it will look more like digital that’s because it was digitally zoomed. Iphone is using the wide camera instead of the telephoto camera when zoomed in. You can see it on the exif data. Hope apple can fix this and give us an option to override just like on the macro control.
I think it comes down to if you want the zoom, you want full manual control, and/or you like to process your own raw files.
I get your point, but as a photographer you need to compare "cameras" as they are, the Rx100 has a view finder, flexibility with apperture, shutter speed, iso, a viewfinder, manual focus.... just for mention some, all these are important for creativity, if you only want to take snapshots of your watch its ok, you can use whatever, if you want to have real creative control then use the rx100.... also lets mention the lens, the zoom is superior in everyway and yes the difference between the images you took are very obvious, if you preffer the ones of the iphone thats ok, we dont judge you.
Most people probably can't tell the difference. However, there's some areas where my iPhone 14 Pro really let's me down and it's usually when the lighting conditions are not ideal. For instance, when the lighting isn't that great, my iPhone can't get a sharp photo of my two year old. I find the iPhone really struggles with motion and also fine details when there's poor lighting. Even a decade old Micro 4/3 camera seems to do better in these tough scenarios. One area where the iPhone does destroy most cameras though, is home videos. It seems to nail videos every time and the quality is really good. I actually find myself preferring the iPhone for video even over my dedicated mirrorless cameras.
How do they both cope with difficult light? EG Low light / night, or the sun in an awkward place for the shot you want?
You have valid points unless you want to go down the vintage P&S realm. I have three vintage P&S cameras -- 2003 Kodak CX6330 (3MP), 2008 Nikon L18 (8MP), and 2012 Panasonic DMC-ZS20 (14MP). I especially love shooting them in B&W mode as they really give a level of film graininess. But to your point, if you are looking to use them in a more modern situation, I agree the iPhone (or Android) wins out the battle. Great video!
I like the extra features on P&S cameras. My G7XII has built in ND, 24-105 optical zoom, you can upload custom LUTs to the camera that you design on your computer with the Camera Window software from Canon. The flip up screen lets you see yourself when shooting with the primary lens. Plus, you get all the specific camera operation ergonomics with a camera, which let's you operate it faster and more precisely. Phones aren't really built for that purpose.
In terms of image quality and dynamic range, I think phones can use their algorithms to keep up with the old 1" sensors, but as soon as you try to compare it to an aps-c pocket camera like the Ricoh GRIII, it's no contest at all.
Nice comparison video! Great content!
Where do you get your photos printed
While I think for most phones have replaced basic point and shoots. The point and shoot market should move to more niche p&s cameras like the x100 or gr series.
which iphone is that though?
The RX 100 VII optical zoom factor leaves mobile phones behind in photography.
There are other point and shoot cameras out there! Highly recommend checking out the Ricoh GRIII and GRIIIX. They are APSC sensor point and shoot cameras and the lenses are SHARP. They lack in video capabilities but I am a street photographer in NYC and the Ricoh GR is my favorite camera to use because of its convenience and image quality vs my iPhone 14 pro. I definitely need to make a comparison video like this one with it lol
Hey, did you make the video yet?
You said it. It’s not good for videos. Content creator are looking for a cameras that can do both. Therefore Ricoh is not convenient for everybody. Beside not everyone is looking for prime lens cameras
iPhone 12 Pro or 13 Pro is or enouth for start photography ? Thanks for all 🔥
Maybe you could make a video discussing the enjoyment of process of shooting with a dedicated camera vs smartphone? One of the reasons that 2000’s digicams are having a resurgence (and film too).
iphone is without a doubt win,in terms of IQ,Computing,speed,stabilization etc..especially when compare to old PNS camera,but nothing beats ergonomics of handling a dedicated camera that want you to shoot more.
1:56 what are these light boxes called ? :)
Spoiler alert: no, it did not. Use the specific camera a specific project needs. Great vid, Evan.
Appreciate you watching!
I personally think the point and shoot is secretly having a resurgence that many don’t realize. With Fuji, and Ricoh both neck and neck. Idk if sony is going to try and tap into that market either. They seem more focused on digital creators/photographers.
@@mynamesbert no doubt. Those recent Fuji cameras are awesome
*Ricoh GRiii enters the chat*
Excellent comparison Evan! You're correct in saying most consumers will benefit from the convenience of the phone, but us 10% still don't want it😂 Much love from East Tennessee!🙏🏼
Just bought a Sony RX100M7.
A little learning curve and it can do almost all a pro camera can.
Nice vid!
What? Am I too used to the quality of a dedicated Camera? I don't feel I have the best eye for it but, it was very clear all the sony photos where better in all aspects, and as far as the video goes, wider doesn't make it better in quality 🤔 kind of biased this comparison
Smartphones are more convenient, faster, easier to use, give you as much detail as a dedicated P&S camera but they cannot give you that natural 3D camera look with the pleasant blurring before and after the subject. And that makes a world of difference. They also have aggressive HDR that bleaches photos and that digital looking highlight fall off mentioned at 1:50 is a real problem. That's because smartphones take multiple shots with fast shutter speed and then stack them so the light does not spread smoothly and evenly like when taking a single shot with a slower shutter speed. Combine everything I've mentioned and in actual practice dedicated cameras leave smartphones behind
I own the Sony rx100iv and I still use it for everyday memories. My best use case was at a party with friends and one had one of those poloraid cameras that prints photos and everyone had fun taking shots. It ended up malfunctioning and so I pulled out my rx and the joy came back everyone passed it around using the articulating screen for selfies, the flash when needed, and having a great time. This experience would not have been replicated on our cell phones because the novelty is not there. The Sony rx will still carry that value long after it’s image quality is no longer top notch and we will continue to look for that dated image like we do with older digital camcorders and such for the nostalgia.
I'm planning to get the RX100 MK1 since in my place (Ph) it sells for a cheap price. Would it be a great buy?
My thoughts on this sort of comparison.. For the RX100 - dedicated physical hands on controls for a lot of functions.. zoom lever, focus ring, settings.. easy replaceable / swappable storage medium - SD cards, easy swappable batteries for long photo walks etc.. usage won't use up your mobile phone's battery, robust construction, (on later RX100 versions.. the flip out screen and view finder), more powerful and movable flash unit, tripod mount screw built in. For the iPhone / other good mobile cameras.. You have them with you most of the time, quick sharing of images if you're web connected, possible functionality updates and built in editing functions from third party software.
I’m a street photographer that shoots in NYC.
I use a Ricoh GR iii as well as an I-Phone 14 Pro Max.
Both cameras work extremely well in different situations on the street.
Both combined are a great combination for what I do.👍
Same here! Love my Ricoh GR. I use it 99% of the time I’m shooting street
@@the.jonfernandez yeah Jon, the GR is an outstanding tool!
Here the same. Sometimes I even prefer the smartphone as it's more invisible and has a larger screen. Also file transfer is easier. Do you also noticed that the iPhone is better in low light due to HDR/poat processing compared to the Ricoh GR3?
@@gainde1137 yes, I have noticed that.
Also being stealthy with a smartphone is notably easier than with the GR.
Some of my best close up people - situational shots have been with a smartphone.
@@Zapruderfilm1963
But a GR is still better than a DSLR for street.
The iPhone 14 is great with its 48mp camera. But thats only at 24mm. As soon as you go to the zoom camera its back down to 12mp. This is where they dont compete. The rx100 being able to do 24-200mm at 20mp is amazing. for 99% of the people that just take photos to post on social then the iphone is perfect. But for say, travel photography where you want to print your photos its a clear win for the sony.
Nothing beats the experience of handling a dedicated point and shoot camera. I have the iPhone 13 Pro Max and the Olympus TG-6. I find myself using the Olympus TG-6. It’s just more enjoyable. I’m currently eying the Lumix LX10 and the ZS200 to add to my photography gear.
I want to get the zs200 too 😀
The older point and shoots are great too, I love my Samsung TL500. Even though sensor size is comparable to the iPhone there is just something about the colour filtering array and processing that makes it look 10x more interesting than an iPhone photo
I sometimes still use my old point & shoot Nikon to just hold it over my head and walk around shooting without ever looking at what I am getting in frame. It is awkward in hand to do that with a phone. One of those from Canada is one of the last pics left on my Twitter account.
Great video mate. I got rid of my x100v when the 14 pro came out. Just never used it. Have a couple of proper cameras for intentional shoots, but for everything else, I find (just me) that the iPhone killed the x100v in almost every category of my use.
You really think so? I also have the X100V, so I'm familiar with the files, and I don't even think it's close. Yesterday actually even I was out shooting with my ancient Olympus E-PL1 doing some low light stuff. I pulled out my iPhone 14 Pro and tried to do similar shots and I was actually surprised that the 12 year old Olympus still did a better job than the iPhone.
@@thisisbenji90 as I said, for my use case. I will always have my phone. I can still get decent low light shots when I use any object as a rest so it isn’t moving. But I do get your point. Just for me, the Fuji was useless.
idk man.. using iphone 15 pro here and I have rx100 iv. All of the photos I take on iPhone look really pixellated and noisy when you do some of the basic edits such as photo optimiser / frame adjustment etc. Do i have to shoot everything in raw and manually do something for it be worthwhile?
You need to shoot in RAW for the iPhone And I do and pictures turn out amazing. But I really do miss a dedicated camera for controls. The iPhone experience is mundane.
Zoom, zoom, and zoom. Need I say more? The zoom is far better than any iPhone out right now. And some of us do not like Apple's over sharpening at all. Even their raw files are about 40-50 over sharpened. The one thing for me that Apple or any other smartphone has over a camera is convenience. It's much quicker to pull out a phone and take a shot than to wait for the zoom lens to open up. Im not a vlogger, nor do I shoot video on a point and shoot, so for my use, stills, the RX100 VII is best. I own the 15 Pro Max, RX100 VII, and the S24 Ultra, and I really love the Sony.
Not sure where you pulled the 90% figure from, but I’m guessing it’s based on no evidence. All of these tests play to the strengths of the iPhone. You could just as easily run a different set of tests which play to the strengths of the Sony.
- Do low light test for videos and photos.
- See how long the iPhone battery lasts when you’re shooting 4K. The Sony’s battery can be replaced.
- Do the same test for storage. How long before the iPhone’s storage is exhausted? Sony… pop in another SD card.
- Shoot a picture at more than 77mm zoom (35mm equivalent.)
- Try taking photos with gloves or wet hands.
- Shoot a low or high angled shot while looking at the screen.
I could go on… And I believe that those of us who are really interested in photography should do our part to educate others as to the shortcomings of using their phone as their sole camera.
There are still many advantages to using a compact camera over a Smartphone and anybody willing to spend more than $1000 on a camera is probably ready and able to use those advantages. The RX100 is not the camera that mom and pop buy to use on vacation.
I am an iPhone user myself. I use the camera all the time. It’s great when it’s being used for the things it’s designed for. But any time I’ve know I’m going to be taking a lot of pictures or videos, such as weddings, baptisms, vacations, day trips and birthday parties… I’m taking a camera, every time.
I thank you for the video and I appreciate your comments at the very end. There is no doubt that Smartphones are killing off the low-end point and shoot market but I think your conclusions in regards to the prosumer compact camera market are deeply wrong. There is still very much a place for the RX series, the Canon G series, the Panasonic LX series and others.
there's no comparison ..they are 2 distinctly different photo/video devices
But why the iPhone? Shouldn't the Xperia Pro-I or the 1V be on the higher level in terms of image quality?
In 2024, it’s still a relevant topic. As a dad who makes it a mission to document my kid through the years, the Iphone has just burned me too much with blurry photos and weak flashes. The premium point and shoots have a clear advantage with capturing fast moving subjects like kids. And yes, kids are fast moving subjects, much like shooting sports or cars
When the sales for point and shoot cameras are down 98% from 110 million in 2008 to about two million for the last two years, it's clear that for the people not in the two percent group, mobile phones have replaced the point and shoot cameras. And it's great, it means that most people have found more suitable tools for photographing they rather use. And the ones who prefer separate camera, have still some models to buy, and used cameras can be have dirt cheap for those who prefer them.
Advanced stacking raw files like Expert RAW from Samsung add incredible details, dynamic range and low light capability for mobile images for those situations where it is suitable, i.e. the subject is not moving too fast.
Ayooo the Mayer watch is beautiful!! Great videooo
Came here while researching to buy the rx100m5a, sticking to the decision
What about ergonomics?
iPhones always got best video quality but NEVER best photo quality, should be camera vs. pixel or something.
I bought a normal iPhone 15 in September and that thing is by far not even close to the RX100VII. It is conviniend, but the pictures are worthless to me. The funny thing is, I had a tourism video project in the summer and the agency I worked for, send me their editor over, to help me out. Super nice guy, 21years old and he got in contact with my little b-cam the RX100VII. I was talking to him some days ago and he told me, that he bought this thing, too. And there is the point, this thing is a real tool. It feels like a tool, it is operating like a tool and the output is absolutely consistent. This is something you can't say for an iPhone. Every Camera is doing it's thing and the quality of the files doesn't look natural.
Yes this thing is not a super gimbal like video cam - but it never was. But what this thing does is, you can put it on a tripod and use it as 2nd camera for interviews, or as cam to capture concerts and all this stuff.
99,9% of the people out there are no photographers, so yes, at least 95% will not need such a cam. But surprisingly enough, there is a trend back to these cameras. And it's not about the old guys it is Gen-Z.
Test number 1 you can TOTALLY see the depth of field difference from that 1 inch sensor. Both shots look great but real subject separation, not artificial, is hard to beat. Plus, if you want a real camera experience, than go for a sony. I got a super old mk2 for just a couple hundred bucks. Don’t need to get the VII and spend a G.
I just bought the Sony ZV-1. In India, costs less than 500 USD sometimes on Amazon--terrific VFM!
Best pocket cam would be the ricoh?
I eagerly anticipate the release of the Sony RX100 Mark VIII, hoping for exceptional specifications at a price point of €1499.
I'm are prepared for this investment My desired specifications include:
-4K resolution at 60 fps with 10-bit depth
-4K capability at 120 fps with 10-bit depth
-Integration of a high-quality 3.5mm audio jack
-Aperture options of at least f/1.4 or f/1.8 to facilitate captivating background blur
-Utilization of Sony's latest and most advanced 1-inch sensor technology
-Implementation of 32-bit audio recording directly within the camera, a feature that would be truly remarkable
-Integration of USB-C for convenient charging from power bank batteries
-Enhanced touchscreen functionality
-Improved software interface
-Better lowlight video recording like a a7s3
-Maintaining the renowned build quality characteristic of the RX100 series, ensuring durability akin to that of a tank.
Take my money Sony please bring back the rx100 line up please in God's name.
God bless Japan for best tech in the world.
for me personally i prefer to take photos on an actual camera, so id want the pocket camera rather than my phone for daily photos. just havent got one yet as i dont often find the need for one often enough.
zv1 is a pocket sized point and shoot camera. i currently am using zv e10 and i love it. so if i have an iphone 14 (currently i have iphone 8 plus), i'd still save and buy zv1 for vlogging and on-the-go filming, because still a dedicated video camera is the best (especially because i need my phone useable for calls and other stuff while filming).
Have to agree. I would rather my phone be my phone most of the time instead of picking it up all kitted out with a lens and filter and maybe a mic in order to use it for something else. I was Fuji XE series and XT4 prior, so I looked at the ZVE10 and almost went that way. Ended up with RX100M7 and ZV1. Something about those very small cameras that gets me excited about going to shoot things.
I have a really good Sony phone camera but the fun definitely goes out of photos when you use your phone all the time. I am looking at point and shoot again and even some of the early models like the 1st gen RX100.
What defines which camera is better? Ultimately the "result" you are looking for. That depends on the lighting conditions, the object itself - and above all - the quality of the final picture the viewer is looking at.
Therefore - there is and will never be a "best of all". If you really want to know whether a camera is good for you - there is no way around testing "the ergonomics" - how it fits into your hands, does it feels compatible with the way you handle a camera, and whether the viewfinder or screens feel comfortable to work with.
And finally - what do you use the photos for? Posting online in Social Media or publishing for big size posters - that's where the ultimate decision will be made.
The iphone or really any phone released in the last 5 years is a formidable opponent to most consumer cameras, especially now that they have caught up in the megapixel department. In fact many if not most casual users might actually prefer the shots that come out of these phones because of how they use HDR and handle exposure- bright, contrasty photos.
The reality is that anybody CAN get good shots from a phone- but 90% of the population won't, because the entire process doesn't exactly encourage creativity. Messing with exposure and white balance and shutter speed are all important (not necessary, but important) parts of learning how photography works and what to look for. I don't say this in a gatekeepy way, but rather to point out that photographers will almost always still buy dedicated cameras because they are drawn to the creative process that it encourages.
I CAN create an entire album of guitars, piano, and drums by simply playing using my ipad's screen and a midi controller. But the fact that this is becoming perpetually easier will never have enough significance to render physical instruments obsolete. Those will always have their place as the primary tools to serve the creative process.
This comparison may seem to have a little bias in favor of the Sony and against the iPhone. At 2:35 far exemple, with the iPhone, we can see the tall building on the left with all its details and great colors. The Sony picture looks unclean / compressed. How can this be called a tie?
Several of the criticism against the iPhone is inaccurate and even misleading. For exemple, from 6:05, it is stated that transferring files to a mac is a hassle (AirDrop takes too much time). AirDrop is not at all necessary. The iPhone can just be connected to a Mac using a cable then all the files can be easily selected in an app, copied quickly to the computer, then deleted from the iPhone (I do that all the time). This also lets the iPhone recharges, as an extra bonus. This is way faster and easier than using AirDrop, or even the process described for the Sony device.
Also, the critical area, and possibly the only one, which could warrant having the Sony is the zoom, as it has a powerful variable optical zoom, while the iPhone is much more limited. Using the zoom to take pictures of far away and tall buildings is a perfect use case of the Sony. Why have not this been tested?
Can the iPhone record 960 fps slow mo? ;)
If someone is looking for something to use for the fun of photography I think the camera would win, it’s just different using a real dedicated camera. If someone if trying to be efficient and get a job done easier, there isn’t really enough upside of the point and shoot to justify it🤷🏽♂️
Do the same test with your Leica. I guess you’ll have to sell it, cause the results will be very similar.
it's not about image quality itself, it's about zoom angle
50mm with no any kind of problems on sony is much more portrait friendly
Seriously I could tell which is which, watched until 3:10. Especially the indoor shots. The depth of field. Always the difference.
I feel that the RX has a more natural look to it, like playing vinyl vs a cd with a laptop while the RX is as sharp looking. I bet that in 2 years we will have phones that will at least be on par with the cameras quality in all scenarios, but then you still dont have an optical zoom lens that goes that far and really good stabilisation combined with it plus all of the features that the RX brings to the table you wont find in the normal camera app. Also I use the ring on the lens to shoot video and change focal length by hand while zooming to create cinematic shots. That is also not easy on a phone, and filmic just sucks since its subscription model if tou would for example want to do those two actions with a phone.
I bought an RX100 and an iPhone 6 the same year. Both were $1000 at the time. My RX100 cost me $600 in repairs the first year. It's still broken and tucked away in a bin somewhere. My iPhone 6 is my current camera and phone. Never a problem.
Could easily be the other way round with the repair... And it's kinda awkward to use an iphone 6 today. But the RX100 is still a decent camera.
Everyone is wrong and him about rx100. iPhone is a great telephone and RX100 is a dedicated camera.
Point and shoot it could be head to head but what about zooming abilities?
I need a camera that can take the picture within a couple of 1/100 of a second when pressing the shutter. No one talks about that, for my phone it's more like seconds.
but what about with zoom? i imagine that the Sony would far outperform the iPhone at longer focal ranges, yeah?
exactly
As a parent of 2, who already owns an iphone13 with the watch, camera for me instead of upgrading the phone. Fast autofocus on messy kids is godsend.
I respect what you said and found out, but disagree on that the RX is only a point and shoot or that you can't use the cell for landscapes. Also I use to remove the SD card but found it easier just to plug in a cable from my computer (Microsoft) computer. The same for my Samsung S10. I can even get them to download automatically. I'll bet I cold print up an 18X24 scenic shot from my RX, Cell or Aps-c cameras and doubt most people could tell the difference. Very good conclusion. The RX has more control (and my apsc is even easier if doing intensive photo shoots).
No zoom category?
Sadly the RX100 mark VII costs a ton of money in Brazil. Maybe because the company SONY left years ago.
I think The single most important feature of the RX100/7 is the 200mm (eqv.) zoom lens. That optical zoom range is not available on any iPhone and is the single most important reason to use this Sony camera, especially in landscape , wildlife and travel photography. If you compare this camera with a Samsung 23 , maybe the advantage will not be as obvious. If you do not need the 10x telephoto capability, there is no reason to buy the expensive RX100/7.
BTW, Images from the iPhone can be downloaded to any MAC or PC computer for image processing using a lighting to usb cable, just as easily as reading from an SD card.
The main and most important, Zoom! Iphone only has 1x and 3x. Sony has more detail from wide to telephoto.
And dont forget low light. Sony is much better too. Fast shutter speeds for moving objects or sports.
Downside definitely is price but you can get the old ones to save money 💰
evan - check out the ricoh GR III or IIIx ;o)
I liked Sony's wide angle more. Would love to see more tests with some settings adjusted with Sony, especially taking advantage of the lens size capabilities. If it's possible)
Is this m7 ??
know why sony make the rx100m6&7 24-200 from m5 24-70 now?
Tru but up to day my Everyday camera is a canon s90..cuz I tend to do more photos and also street photography is my hobby...
Hi Evan, timing of this video can’t be better!
I was on the fence of having a small compact camera that can do both photo & video and use it for on the go stuff. It came down to either the RX100vii and the ZV-1, with in the end leaning more towards zv-1 (same processor, sensor, has ND filter, faster lens, etc etc).
Thus I’m clear between the two what my choices will be.
But then again I asked myself, what will I do with this camera since I already have an x100v for my photo stuff, and it is more practical (at least for me) to use an iphone, and that’s where I am right now in the end.
What did you end up going for? iphone 15 pro now can shoot in log so i feel its an even tougher decision.
@@ianfarrugia4495 I ended up getting a used canon g7x mark III :)
Living your life through your phone and it's lens implies that you see the world as a cartoon.
Also these cameras are not for people who are incapable to understanding manual mode and it's advantage (which unfortunately includes you); you're better off with an iphone and your cartoonish world.
Great test. For everyday content, the iPhone won this battle several iterations ago. However, iPhone photos start to look the same over time. Been shooting iPhones since the 4s, but my dedicated cameras aren’t going anywhere soon. They’re nicer to shoot with and you have more control over the final output. Yeah, and I will probably get the iPhone 15. 😂
camera manufacturers were already stop producing consumer grade P&S camera as phone camera is getting better every year. Now, P&S camera is marketed towards serious amateurs, photography hobbyists, etc. who appreciate lens performance, controls, and ergonomics of a dedicated camera.
Sure, if you do not test for the strong points of the RX100 (bokeh, zoom, landscape (resolution!)), the iPhone stands a chance.
You forgot the most interesting difference: iPhone night mode vs digital camera night photography. That iPhone fotos at daytime are great nowadays is common knowledge, but you can't capture that much light in a tiny lens, so they have to have really good computing to make up for that...
Digital cameras in their own are worse than a cellphone for night photography. They either require very high ISO that makes dust their image quality or cumbersome tripods that cellphones can use as well.
Photos from an iPhone is like Ferrari in a photostydio but pic from Sony is like Ferrari parked nearby. Which one you ride?
There's something unnatural looking about phone photos, it's like it's lacking depth. I mostly use the Ricoh GRiii, but if I can't find it tomorrow, I would rather grab my old ass RX100m2 than take a picture with my phone for other than note and messaging purposes.
I will be getting a Rx100iv tomorrow for 200€ used. I dont think thats possible with an Iphone, so the Iohone is way more expesnive. In the right hands, especially in Video you will defintly see a difference between a 4k video from a ohine and 4k video from a camera. Furthermore the Rx100 has features, which people who take ohotography seriously and dont just want to snap and be done with the picture: For example the view finder and most importantly the complete manual controls - oh and the older rx100 (iii, iv, v, va) also have a very handy nd filter.
I think phones in general are getting pretty close to cameras, but I wouldnt consider an Iphone a camera replacement just because of the lack of manual controls. And I seriously dont get why apple isnt offering full manual controls...
Even my Huawei P30 from 4 years ago has complete manual controls...
I love using my iPhone.. the best way to transfer files faster I’ve found is plug it into your mac and use “image capture” that is built into mac computers and u can select the files u want and import them quicker to a file u create.. stop using airdrop when u have a lot of files to import!
do a strobe photography and see how far the iPhone were left behind
cameras are still a specialist tool, no need to buy expensive camera if you don't use the specific features it has
For video, the iPhone has a much better stabilization. I need a vlogging point and shoot camera with stellar stabilization like the iPhone.
For your thumbnail, i would have gotten a closer shot in
Wow those cube lights !!!!