How To Post Process Resin 3D Prints & Water Curing
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- A quick little tutorial on how to post process resin prints that we can refer to in future videos. Hopefully you find it helpful as well!
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They both come from our Dieselpunk world, which we first did a collection for in January (you can see it here: www.myminifactory.com/users/P.... The setting of this story is in a large industrial sprawl called New Haven, which is suppressed by the tyrannical rule of Victor Ivanov and The Authority, his personal army. Ordinary workers are controlled by rationing fuel, food and medical supplies, and they live in cramped housing in the Central District (CD).
After decades of suppression, a rebellion is rising. A group of organized diesel heroes known as the Maslo Group, who have branches across the city, have been planning to overtake the Oil Refinery in the CD to cut Victor off from his fuel supply. The collection of minis we released in January featured our Maslo Group heroes and their weapons vs The Authority and their weapons, plus some terrain (like the Oil Refinery).
Alexei, the new character, belongs to our Maslo Group of heroes - there are five other characters sculpted. The Heavy Weapons Trooper belongs to The Authority, specifically 'The Volk' - elite soldiers from prestigious families trained at a young age.
In May, we're revisiting this world and storyline with 'Dieselpunk 2'. A new, neighbouring city joins the story (Kovlova). They use the uprising in New Haven to invade Victor's territory and take control of the oil fields outside the city, supporting the Maslo Group in overthrowing Victor's rule. We have tanks, airships and giant mechs in this release! - Jak na to + styl
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I'll be streaming how to support/clean up prints just like in this video, and even painting some of the prints this coming Wednesday (June 2nd) on my twitch for those who have questions, or just wanna hang out :) www.twitch.tv/rybonator
Fun fact: when you're alcohol gets cloudy you can put it in a clear bottle with a cap, put that on the window sill for a few days, then strain it and you have clean alcohol again.
I think you have evaporated alcohol 🤔 especially if you live in Texas
@@dfwfishfeen8909 you leave the lid on lol
Genius, thank you!
I hope you all find this helpful and informative :) I'm not typically a sci-fi tabletop person, but I am 1000% gonna find a reason for there to be a gatling gun trooper in my Fantasy D&D setting!
Teleportation circle goes horribly wrong and the party find themselves in the middle of Starship Troopers
Gatling gun? What's that? All I see is a wild magic chicken cannon. :D
A few notes, and considerations for those who are new;
1) Find a good reddit or Facebook group specific to your printer make/model. Every printer has its own weird things, and these groups can help a lot. This is doubly true for larger printers like the Saturn where traditional supports and things just don't work like you would expect.
2) Consider using stronger chemicals than alcohol. I started printing resin mid-pandemic where getting good quality iso alcohol was essentially impossible to get, so I tried a bunch of different things from the hardware store and settled on Acetone. Yes, it is smelly, but the fumes are not toxic, and it is nice and strong where it will literally pull the uncured resin from your print. No more brushing required. I keep 2 paint cans of the stuff, one dirty to get the bulk off, and one cleaner one to get off the remaining lit. Swish it around for ~15-30 sec, then another 15 sec in the cleaner pot, and done! The acetone evaporates in seconds, and other than the smell does a better job faster, and I highly encourage people to try it.
When the 'clean' pot starts to get noticeably cloudy, add it to the dirty pot, and pour in some fresh acetone. It is cheap, easy, clean, and great.
3) Water curing... yes, it is good... but with caveats. Especially for delicate prints, it can help prevent warping. But keep in mind that this is now contaminated water, and best practice is to let that water evaporate fully with full sun exposure. Anything that gets uncured resin in it should be treated as a hazardous material, and should not be treated properly. Yes, technically speaking your model is cured, so any resin left suspended in the water should also be cured.... but letter of the law in most areas says to that that evaporate fully to dispose of it properly. Which is why I don't do it myself. I have mosquitoes, and leaving water out to evaporate just is a terrible idea in my area. But as long as you are disposing of the water properly, it works great, and I would highly encourage it.
4) The sun is big... really really big... so don't leave your prints in direct sunlight. It can/will warp the prints, and for some clear/white resins it can burn/orange/cloud the print. Get yourself a cardboard box, and a 24W UV light kit on amazon. Line that thing with foil, tape the lights all around in there, and set the box over your print for ~5-10 minutes. Flip the print over for another 5 min to get the bottom, and done! Cheap, easy, it will hit all sides pretty evenly, and at a low enough wattage to not introduce warping.
If you cure outdoors, then do it under the shade of a tree, and that seems to help a lot.
5) Once everything is removed and cured, then comes the cleanup. Ideally you want lots of extremely thin supports which pop right off with no issues... but that is sometimes (often lol) not possible for every part of a model. Lately I have taken to being less careful about snapping the supports off, and filling the crater with material and painting over rather than snapping the supports off and sanding the nub down. To each their own of course... but that is just something I have noticed for my own workflow that works well. If painting is not an option then obviously this would be a terrible idea... but part of me does not trust that a resin print is ever fully cured, so I will at the very least lacquer or paint all of my prints to add that little bit of barrier.
Hope that helps somebody! Resin printing is awesome! Hope more people get into it!
This will be a handy little reference to go back to every now and then
Glad you found it useful :) Hello to the future YOU that returns here! :)
You make such awesome content and make the scary part of these things (printing, resin, etc) so easy and accessible!
As long as you go in prepared and knowledgable, there is no need to be scared of it :) It's way better to be prepared, rather than scared/reactive to things. You'll have 0 problems with these printers if you go in knowing what to do with them :) If you ever give it a shot Kelsey, YOU GOT THIS :)
You can be a paid for commentator. Your voice sounds very professional, well rehearsed, and fluid. Wait, you have a YT channel with tons of Patreons? You are a professional commentator, lol.
As someone who's been overthinking and done a ton of research into 3D resin printing this video made it look plain and simple without taking away the importance of proper handling.
Thank you so much for this concise watch!
I initially started with pickle jars with the lift out basket for washing off uncurred resin. Use two washes. One for the bulk of it and another for anything extra. I’ve since upgraded to a wash and cure station and my post print process has become soooo much easier and more enjoyable I highly recommend it!
BIG IMPORTANT THING. Water Washable resin doesnt do well with water curing. For waterwashable resin your printz need to be completely dry before curing unless you dont mind some detail loss and a white film setting over the top of them.
I water cured a water washable print for a solid day, and it just turned into crumbly garbage.
I’m so glad I saw this comment before I asked! Thank you
@@octaviafinch1344 NP!
thanks haha
The water cure method is nice, however 90% of the time the reason you have cloudy white specks on your cured minis is because you didn't clean the print off thoroughly/ completely dry off the IPA from the print before you cured them. Make sure your prints are clean and dry before you cure using any method.
Thank you so much. Almost didn't buy a printer as I was thinking you had to have all this other equipment! Much appreciated sharing your knowledge!
Clear explanations and competent execution, great video.
Love the stuff man, glad to see more people are doing the water step too it helps so much in my post process
Thanks Max! And yeah, it really is awesome! It comes out so much faster and... idk, just better? It's hard to describe. You can just feel that it's better!
@@Rybonator also reduces that weird sticky oxidation you can get randomly. Or at least I did lol
WOW TYSM other videos were just too extra, like fricking tubs with iso alc and a giant uv thing with a full on room with ventilation and stuff and I just don’t have the money for that and couldn’t get to how to clean them on a budget without a gigantic machine with just a uv light or the sun, a brush and a little plastic bowl, thanks man you desserve the sub ❤️
These videos are so fun to watch thabks raybonator for the vids!
I just got that printer! glad to see a youtuber I watch having one so I don't feel alone lmao
Great video thank you
Great video thanks for your knowledge
Before this video I was feeling under the weather, but now I'm cured! ;)
You're the freaking man. Thanks for this video!
Me: Oh look a 3d printing video *clicks*
Also me: wait isn't this the dice goblin
*Does a small voics* Yes, you are amazing!... haha LOVE the comedy style and all the tips you give makes a person like me that love info for little tips and tricks happy~
Haha thanks Ghet :D I'm glad you like the video. Hopefully it helps you out when printing!
Great video BTW 👍👍
Thanks :) Glad you liked it!
Omfg i needed this so much thank you
THANK YOUUUU!
Hell yeah! More rybonator content! Love the content and the channel, keep up the great work. Very entertaining
Thanks Maynard :) I'm glad you like what I do!
I got WAY too excited when he brought out the Insta-Set...
The biggest help for me removing the supports is dipping the models into hot water for a couple of seconds beforehand.
(Not boiling water, just as hot as your sink can go.)
I knew the sun wasn't the enemy of resin printing!
About to start resin printing for the first time after grabbing a Mars 3. Thanks for being so quick and to the point! Regarding support removal though, how easy is it to remove the supports, and should I worry about loose uncured resin flying off when doing so?
loved the video! The minis turned out really good! :)
You should test out the water soluble resin. Then there is no need for the alcohol but you still need to rinse it off with water but you can't run it under the faucet, you need containers like the alcohol.
I don't know why I watch these, because I don't think I will Ever get a 3d printer... but its so fascinating!!
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to make it :) What does it mean if my prints are yellowing after curing in sunlight? I am using Anycubic Water Washable 405nm High Precision resin
This is so straight forward and informative. Thank you!
Would you say that the water curing makes a better end result or are they all going to have the same durability and ability to hold paint? Sounds like it's better and faster but after doing all 3 you've saved so many people so much time.
Water is better in almost all aspects IMO. Noticed major quality improvements in all the areas you mentioned. :)
Also thank you! Glad you liked it :)
Great video as always Rybonator! Instead of superglue, you can also use a little bit of resin and that UV flashlight to attach broken bits or assemble multi-part minis. I also use that trick for filling any divots from removing supports.
Thank you so much for this video, I am starting to get into 3d printing and was worried about *washing minis* and curing them separately from sunlight... I live in Australia lol.
I've seen that I should keep printing minis out of direct sunlight if at all possible, but my 6 I still live with, want me to resin print outside if I choose to pick it up 😅. Is it mandatory that they lurk in a windowless room until the final curing stage or is a shady corner good enough?
Excellent tutorial - wish I had watched this first!
Would placing the models outside in water work as well?
Me: thinking about buying a resin 3D printer and accepting that I have to research what i will need for post processing:
Rybonator: uploading this video
Me: NANI THE FUCK?!?! You read minds now?
Water curing lol going old school!
I like use a UV light and a UV activated turntable. Also, i'm kind of wondering how the water curing would work on water washable resin. you obviously wouldn't want to use the washing water
Can you put multiple prints in the same clear cup or is it better to cure one at a time. I bulk print a lot of small bits for DnD and want to know if there is anything that could go wrong.
Your voice feels so clear in my ADHD brain
0:48 Out of 4 resin printers I've used I've never seen one come with clippers or a brush.
What do you do with the supports after you've separated them from the mini? Thanks for these videos on resin printing, you're really good at explaining stuff and it's making me more and more interested in getting a printer someday!
I cure those too and then throw them away
Buildlines are waste products, there's no way to reuse them in the printing process, they're as useful as any other piece of random plastic sticks so up to you if you wanna use them for something but they're primarily just garbage.
@@GiraffeFlavoredCondoms There is ABSOLUTELY a way to reuse them. Often when a print fails, it’s far healthier for my FEP to stick a old support into the vat and use the vat clean, can peel it right off.
@@tfan2222 @Tfan .. I mean like you can't reuse them in printing, like you can't melt it down and turn it back into resin like you can with PLA if you have the machine that does it. That's why I said if you have a use for a bunch of plastic sticks, and there absolutely are uses for them, you just can't turn them back into uncured resin and reuse them in the printing. Which is why I said that last sentence, which I guess you just skipped over
can you do a video on how you set up your Elegoo? like any special settings
So in this old review video I did, I show how I set it up out of the box - czcams.com/video/EZr9FZx6mNw/video.html
BUT, I would highly recommend using some of my newer support/print settings, like in the video I just published prior to this one. I show those settings here - czcams.com/video/cPXCilN7Cqc/video.html . The setup is the same even when it's on the newer elegoo mars 2 machine :)
@@Rybonator thanks, I have just bought the elegoo mars 2 pro and wanted to be able to make your dice right out of the box. I think i wat ched the video where you did the 140 figures over night and was wondering if you had made any adjustments since it had been a while since you made that video.
you can glue the broken off part with resin and then cure it with a uv light .
Wow Rybonator, how do you do that? How you stand it up on its own, you're so talented, that's crazy!
You're welcome ;)
I know right? Such raw talent has no place worrying about wobbling figures!
@@vanerek Thank you, I needed this
Lol I ended up gouging a nice chunk out of my build plate, and my crealty didn't print until I faced the plate.
Denatured alcohol aka "Methylated spirits" is a good/ cheaper option for IPA
So what if i put the minis in water and then outside?
I wonder if water curing will work with water washable resin
my question is how do you stop the curing process once you are done...spray in with something?
isopropyl doesn't mean 99% alcohol, it means it has mostly propanol as opposed with normal alcoholic mixes that have a little bit more of all (Methanol, Ethanol, Propanol, Butanol). ISO means "same"... which means it's an alcohol that has only one of the alcohols inside (propanol here) not more. The percent can mean the purity versus other alcohols or versus water as "solution".
Mask and eye wear is also a good idea
Water curing ? what would the resin be in this would it be Water washable resin ? or can u get normal resin and then just put in water and cue ?
be greatful for the help im looking for cheap options to clean and cue and resins for mini figures and tanks etc Eleegoo x looking at but i do have uv torches so how long would u try that for and the machine u had is about 15 to 20.00 so alot cheaper than the x machine
thanks
Rather than super glue, use a small drop of resin and cure with uv flashlight (i use laser pen) then cure completely. I will have to try the water cure method sounds interesting 8-)
Does water curing potentially leave any resin in the used water? how to properly dispose of it? or am I worrying for nothing lol
What's the link for the free stuff
Have you tried the anycubic? I've narrowed it down to these two and can't decide
I have not - However, I have had literally 0 issues with my elegoo mars printers, and I've owned 7 now haha
@@Rybonator that helps a lot thank you
I have an Anycubic Photon and it's perfectly fine. I haven't tried an Elegoo yet, but from everything I read/researched they are pretty much exactly the same.
So I would go with whichever goes for a lower price at the time you want to buy.
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@@Rybonator :-)♡👍
Man 3D printing has come a long way I'm still do used to detailed parts of prints being Garbo but these came out amazingly!
really depends on the printer. Resin printers are AMAZING detail... but where a traditional FDM printer would cost ~$0.01-0.03 per mini, a resin printer is going to be much more expensive at closer to ~$0.10-0.15 per mini. Still cheap, still worth doing for lots of little highly detailed items... but larger things like printing terrain or bigger things it is often more cost effective to use the lower detailed FDM prints.
That said... some of these FDM printers are getting pretty awesome too!
What's "accelerator"?
Um... I literally just got (today) my brand new 3d printer (the elegoo mars 2) and i wanna make stuff... Was this literally made for me???
For getting prints off the plate. Invest £15 in a magnetic plate .. anyone off Amazon. Its saves SOOOOOOO much hassel
If you're just going to break off the support why not do it before you clean the print? The supports hold LOTS of resin, even with water washable resin you're ending up with a lot more toxic waste to deal with than you would if you peal away the supports first
I've never noticed an excess of resin when I do mine, however, I have on hollowed prints before. Sometimes I will clean it again after removing supports if I feel that it's warranted. :)
Is water curing outside a good idea?
Man I really hate when wind sticks to my prints!
What if i make a toy and people use it in the sun. Will it keep curing? or discolor ect?
Are you related to Binging with Babish? Sound so similar!
Have you ever seen me and Babish in the same room together? Just sayin ;) Maybe we're the same person...
Hey could you combine the water and sunlight methods to help avoid the debris?
Absolutely! I'd leave it in an open container however if you DO leave it outside :)
Try sticky tack for making those guys stand up on their own
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the same toothbrush I use to brush my teeth. Glad my teeth are as good as resin
I'd be a little careful w/ a metal scraper. you can scratch up your build plate a little w/ it and over time cause problems. i just get plastic ones and replace them regularly. Then again i don't trust the quality of my printer so ymmv.
@rybonator
Use water washable resin!!
Soooo much better, less odor, less post print work and same level of quality.
Only downside is if you hollow your minis, they can crack...but just apply infill to a hollowed model and 👌🏻
Rybonator has tested water washable and mosf of his other 3d printing videos featurw it
mooshy is so sklooshy
Did you listen to the cure while making this video?
I like using acetone nail polish remover, it works a bit better and at the time i started using it was much easier to get a hold of lol.... But you have to make sure it has acetone, the non acetone stuff doesn't work at all
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You got it :)
The literal hot tip of removing supports by dunking the model in very hot water for a few seconds bears mentioning, I think. I haven't found that it separates or warps even tiny details, and it softens smaller support contact points to the degree that they almost fall right off. It's a good thing to add to your cleaning routine IMO, right after the alcohol bath.
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Hey Hyrule, it's me. Dad.
@@Rybonator I've missed you🥺
Where are the horrible puns!
Not sure if this is a real video!
The minis are overexposed...