What If Kim Da-Eun Killed Tory? (Cobra Kai Season 5)

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  • During this "what if" we're going to change the events of Cobra Kai and The Karate Kid, to: What if Kim Da-Eun killed Tory? Thank you for watching the video and I hope you enjoyed it! Make sure to like and subscribe! Also comment what you think would have happened if Kim Da-Eun killed Tory during Cobra Kai season 5. Thank you to all that have been watching the videos and giving out ideas.
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  • @TheJohnnyCotts
    @TheJohnnyCotts Před 8 měsíci +19

    Dark.
    Someone once asked "What if Kim Da Eun betrayed Terry Silver?" For whoever asked that, now you know.

  • @pepito2847
    @pepito2847 Před 8 měsíci +15

    Terry Silver doing the right thing and standing up to Kim and the senseis?!
    Sooo awesome
    But man these what if scenarios that involve fan favorite characters dying are just so dark and sad

    • @_BlackWolf177
      @_BlackWolf177 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Lemme remind you. Terry isn't evil. Kreese influenced him.

    • @psychopathicreaper6915
      @psychopathicreaper6915 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Nope. Terry is now evil even without krease, as shown when he overthrew krease during the end of season 4.

  • @crusader2112
    @crusader2112 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Kreese betrayed Johnny
    Silver betrayed Kreese
    Kim betrayed Silver
    "It's like poetry, you know they rhyme." George Lucas

  • @Unknown-oo4hh
    @Unknown-oo4hh Před 8 měsíci +14

    What if Sam and Tory worked together secretly in Season 5?
    Here's what happened -- the final match would still carried on and Tory would still be the first female All-Valley champion. When she goes to get her stuff and she will still find out that Silver cheated.
    The next morning, Tory would go see Sam and explains what happened, at first, she would be furious and even tried to fight her, but that's when Amanda comes in and stops her. Sam yells at her "Get the hell out of my house!".
    Season 5 would still carried on, Miguel would still run away and Johnny and Robby would still go to Mexico to find him. Daniel would still get Chozen and they would infiltrate Cobra Kai. Tory would still confront Silver for cheating and gives her a choice: leave or come back, and she would have no choice but to stay in Cobra Kai.
    Tory would meet Chozen and slowly formed a bond.
    Sam would still go to Yasmine and Moon for help, and still encountered a dark version of herself. That would lead to her and Miguel break up. Sam would have met up with Tory and they would go to her place, where Sam would finally understand why her mother would want to help her. That's when they would decide to team up.
    They would secretly stayed in contact. In this timeline, Tory would never go to Kreese as she was working with Sam, and she would stayed together with Robby.
    Season 5 would carried on. Chozen's cover would still be blown. Silver would still burned down Mike Barnes's furniture store to the ground.
    The water park would still happened and Kenny would still kick Anthony in the pool, but in this timeline, Sam would be the one to confront Kenny and that's when Tory would showed up and since they were working together in secret, they won't fight and the water park would be peaceful.
    Sam and Tory would still keep in contact and Tory would spy on Silver.
    And the events of Season 5 would still happened: Silver would still screwed with Daniel's marriage, and Amanda would go to Ohio and take the kids with her. Amanda would still find out the truth about Silver from Jessica. Daniel and Silver would fight, and Silver would win. Silver would still get Kim Da-Eun. Devon would still joined Cobra Kai. Miyagi-Fang would still reopen and Robby would rejoin.
    Daniel and Johnny would still find out from Kreese about Silver's plans to enter into the Sekai Taikai, and they would still want to convince to judges to let them qualify and those events would stay the same. Cobra Kai would still choose Tory and Kenny and Miyagi-Fang would choose Hawk and Sam.
    The night of match, Robby would still tell Hawk to take it easy on Kenny, so Hawk would listen to Robby. And in this timeline, Silver would still pay off the ref and Kenny would still defeat Hawk, using the Silver Bullet technique. Tory would still know that Silver's cheating again, and since she and Sam are working together, they would fight. Sam would used the combination of both Miyagi-do and Eagle Fang, while Tory used both Miyagi-do and Cobra Kai. The match would continue as the score is 2-2. In this timeline, Sam would get the last point, so Sam would win. Both Cobra Kai and Miyagi-Fang would qualify.
    The party would still happened, but in this timeline Miguel wouldn't kissed another girl as he and Sam would get back together.
    Silver was mad that Miyagi-Fang was interfering with his plans, so in this timeline, he would punish Tory for not winning her match against Sam, by making her punch a solid stone dummy, but Sam would rescue her.
    Later that night, Sam and Tory explains their plan to Miguel, Robby, Hawk, and Demetri. So the Miyagi-Fangs would still break into the Cobra Kai dojo to find evidence that Silver assaulted Stingray back at the old dojo, only to find that it was almost deleted but they did managed to find evidence that Silver cheating at the All-Valley.
    In this timeline, Mitch would still betrayed the Miyagi-Fangs by revealing their plan to Cobra Kai and another fight broke out. The mansion fight will never happen. Devon would switched sides.
    Miyagi-Fang managed to exposed Silver, and Silver tries to explain himself but they won't believe him, so he attack the Miyagi-Fang.
    Daniel would get a call from Sam, saying that Silver attack her and friends at the Flagship dojo, so he, Johnny, and Chozen would go the Cobra Kai dojo and Mike would still followed them. Before they went in, Mike would be mad at Daniel for his store getting burned down, but Daniel explained it was all Silver's fault and they were there to get their kids out of there. So Mike would want to help them, so Daniel, Johnny, and Chozen and Mike would confront Silver, Master Kim and her senseis at the dojo.
    While, Johnny and Mike fend off Master Kim and her senseis, Chozen and Daniel go after Silver. Silver would fight dirty, but they would defeat him, using the quicksilver method against him.
    That's when the police arrived and arrest Silver for his crimes, but Master Kim and her senseis got away.
    Cobra Kai dojo would get shut down.
    In this timeline, Kreese would still be in prison, he wouldn't escaped. Silver and Kreese end up cellmates.
    And that is where I'm gonna end this "What If". Thank You for listening and I'll see you in the next one. Assuming there will be a next one

    • @TheRealRickGrimes
      @TheRealRickGrimes Před 8 měsíci +2

      I definitely agree a lot on part of Miguel and Sam getting back together right away instead of him kissing that girl at the party. The scene was so random of that girl. It would have made the party scene much better if they never had that random girl show up but I guess they needed Sam to be upset so she wouldn't have worked with Tory right away if she was in a better mood

    • @Kflaynife
      @Kflaynife Před 8 měsíci

      I ain't reading allat

    • @Nicksolo85
      @Nicksolo85 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Here's an extra part...
      Terry Silver is sitting alone in his cell.
      The cell door opens & enters a man shrouded in darkness of the dim lights.
      The man is Kreese & he says to Silver, "I am your new cellmate and I am going to make your life a living hell!"
      Terry would just be sitting there with a scared look on his face.
      I'm sure someone will get the joke.

    • @justinsabath8536
      @justinsabath8536 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Then kreese and silver would end up fighting to the death for next season

  • @jakekong8489
    @jakekong8489 Před 8 měsíci +5

    That’s a dark and harsh..

  • @bacaawesomerorie2788
    @bacaawesomerorie2788 Před 8 měsíci +20

    What if mr Han trained Daniel in karate kid trilogy

  • @user-tz1fp3hc2v
    @user-tz1fp3hc2v Před 8 měsíci +7

    I honestly think terry could take on all the senseis

    • @TheProofWis
      @TheProofWis Před 8 měsíci +2

      Nah Chozen couldn't even take one of them with Johnny how would Terry do by himself

    • @user-tz1fp3hc2v
      @user-tz1fp3hc2v Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@TheProofWis didn’t Johnny end up beating 5 of the senseis and silver dog walked Johnny in season 4

    • @TheProofWis
      @TheProofWis Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@user-tz1fp3hc2v didn't Johnny still struggle with one sensei with Chozen and no he got a baby rage amp that's the only reason why he won and don't underestimate the Senseis they can surprise us

  • @inosuke._.energy
    @inosuke._.energy Před 8 měsíci +3

    I would see Robby showing no mercy against Kim and kicking her ass in a rage

  • @Infinite-99
    @Infinite-99 Před 8 měsíci +3

    You should start branching out from cobra kai what ifs until s6 bro

  • @TheProofWis
    @TheProofWis Před 8 měsíci +7

    What if Robby punched Miguel off the stairs instead of kicking
    What if Miguel Fought Demetri in The School Fight
    What if Miguel Fought Kenny instead of Hawk at the Sekai Talkai Qualifiers
    What if Sam and Tory fought at the party
    What if Miguel and Hawk joined Robby at the dojo confronting all the students
    What if Mike Fought Terry Sliver at the house fight instead of Chozen
    What if Shawn was released in Season 4
    What if Tory fought Piper at the All Valley instead of Sam
    What if Robby Fought Kyler at The All Valley and Eli Fought Demetri at the All Valley

    • @TheJohnnyCotts
      @TheJohnnyCotts Před 8 měsíci +3

      I think he already did "What if Miguel fought Kenny at the Sekai Taikai qualifier?"

    • @TheProofWis
      @TheProofWis Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@TheJohnnyCottsOh alright what Demetri Fought Kenny in The Sekai Talkai Qualifiers

  • @Slickrick59
    @Slickrick59 Před 8 měsíci +3

    damn that was dark

  • @lHeartApple
    @lHeartApple Před 8 měsíci +6

    What if Robby told Sam the truth earlier that Miguel returned the medal of honor? (Cobra Kai season 2)
    What if Terry Silver killed Chozen? (At the end of Cobra Kai season 5)

  • @cobrakaiworld23
    @cobrakaiworld23 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Wow that was dark

  • @brevonmckinney2537
    @brevonmckinney2537 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I could definitely see Robby, Miguel, Sam, Hawk, Demetri, Chris, Mitch, Nate, Bert, Anthony would go on a rampage

    • @Bat_sensei.
      @Bat_sensei. Před 8 měsíci +2

      Robby and Miguel are gonna be unstoppable

    • @Bat_sensei.
      @Bat_sensei. Před 8 měsíci +2

      And Sam her soulmate

  • @ljirving3590
    @ljirving3590 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I’m happy you brought back the original background music. It just fits the vibe better.

  • @tonyhawksproskater2406
    @tonyhawksproskater2406 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Day can't even keep count anymore of asking for
    What If Hawk switched sides in the Arcade fight

  • @lovekookie7844
    @lovekookie7844 Před 8 měsíci +4

    part 2 please I wanna see the others reaction when they find out about tory

  • @slimsinister3940
    @slimsinister3940 Před 8 měsíci +6

    What If Shannon Was In The Karate Kid?

  • @undonnadie6613
    @undonnadie6613 Před 8 měsíci +3

    What if kenny joins topanga karate (season 4)

  • @HyperEdits17
    @HyperEdits17 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Day 14 of asking for what if hawk didn't break Dimitris arm and switched sides during the arcade fight in season 3.

  • @KennyValdivia95
    @KennyValdivia95 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I would love for you to do a theory about Amanda on how she got Tory's mom's number amd how she knew where she lived and worked.

  • @melissapas8474
    @melissapas8474 Před 8 měsíci +3

    BOXIEST: This was a great what if scenario, a little dark, but great none the less. Here's my what if's
    What if Sensei Kim killed Sam in the S5 finale fight at the dojo (she had her in a choke hold when she tackled her off of Tory)
    What if Sam saw Kyler & Kenny bullying Anthony at the water instead of Hawk & defended him
    What if the Miyagi Fangs told the Sensei's about Silver cheating in the All Valley instead of going to stingrays
    What if Amanda never believed Terry Silver & saw right through him from the very beginning & didn't leave Daniel
    What if Terry Silver tried to lore both Anthony & Sam into Cobra Kai in S4 & S5

  • @Dragonhawk9806
    @Dragonhawk9806 Před 8 měsíci +4

    What if Terry silver and Tory worked together secretly in S5
    What if Hawk and Demetri broke into the Cobra Kai Dojo alone in S5
    What if Daniel and Johnny help Chozen with the egg training in S5

  • @AquaEditzzz
    @AquaEditzzz Před 8 měsíci +1

    Someone else asked for this so i might as well help out
    “What If Hawk switched sides during the arcade fight”

  • @cobrakaiworld23
    @cobrakaiworld23 Před 8 měsíci +4

    What If Kim Killed Sam ?

  • @aliounesacko4671
    @aliounesacko4671 Před 8 měsíci +3

    What if Daniel went with Johnny Chozen and Mike to silver’s house in season 5?

    • @TheJohnnyCotts
      @TheJohnnyCotts Před 8 měsíci

      Seconded. I think that's been the most frequent S5 suggestion.

    • @justinsabath8536
      @justinsabath8536 Před 8 měsíci

      What if daniel fought the rednecks in the season 5 finale

  • @mariofan-es1tn
    @mariofan-es1tn Před 8 měsíci +1

    What if Terry Silver hired senseis in karate kid 3 like he did in season 5?

  • @Derk1244
    @Derk1244 Před měsícem

    I honestly thought Rob would have spartan rage and beat kim Dae Yung lol

  • @stevenogunniyi7256
    @stevenogunniyi7256 Před 8 měsíci +1

    What if Daniel and Johnny split sooner in s4
    What if Anthony joined Cobra kai when he was given the t shirt
    What if Robby and Miguel swapped places during Cobra Kai
    What if miguel joined miyagi do in s3
    What if the senseis beat chozen at the end of episode 2
    What if Carmen never got pregnant
    What if Kenny killed Robby
    What if Piper was in Season 5

  • @ChuckoCrafts
    @ChuckoCrafts Před 8 měsíci +1

    Day 7 of asking What if Miguel and Robbie fought in season 3 at Miyagi do. This would happen after Robbie sees Miguel and Sam at Miyagi Do about to kiss

  • @CoreysHomies-ww8ts
    @CoreysHomies-ww8ts Před 8 měsíci +2

    What if cobra kai and Miyagi fang fought at the baseball Diamond

  • @jasonchampagne2400
    @jasonchampagne2400 Před 8 měsíci +3

    What If Trey and Cruz killed Robby in the beach? S2
    What If Robby Saved Kenny of Zack? S4
    What If Daniel Saved Anthony of Kenny? S5
    What If Robby killed Hawk in the mall? S2
    What If Kenny and Kyler wasn't bully? S5
    What If Zach wasn't bully? S4
    What If Tory shot another eye on Sam? S4
    What If Kreese and Terry Silver strangle Tory and Robby ? S4
    What If Sam Saved Robby? S2
    What If Hawk Saved Robby? S2
    What If Shawn Saved Robby? S2
    What If Kim Da Eun Saved Robby? S2
    What If Julie Pierce Saved Robby? S2
    What If Tory Saved Robby? S2
    What If Johnny & Daniel killed guys in car workshop? S3
    What If Kreese Saved Miguel From Kyler? S1
    What If Terry Silver Saved Miguel From Kyler? S1
    What If Hawk told the truth Daniel? S2
    What If Hawk told the truth Johnny? S2
    What If Aisha Walked Out Of Cobra Kai With Daniel? S2
    What If Johnny Walked Out Of Cobra Kai With Daniel? S2
    What If Kenny Left Cobra Kai? S4
    What If Kreese fought Stingray in the dojo S4
    What If Tory confessed break the LaRusso house? S3
    What If Tory confessed in school fight? S2
    What If Robby Walked Out Of Cobra Kai With Johnny and Daniel? S3
    What If All the gang Out Of Cobra Kai With Daniel? S3
    What If 6 sensei killed Mike Barnes? S5
    What If Gabriel killed Kreese? S5
    What If Kreese killed guys prisoners? S5
    What If Robby Beat Johnny? S3
    What If Hawk switched sides in the Arcade fight? S3
    What If Miyagi-Do won arcade fight? S3
    What If Tory switched sides in the Arcade fight? S3
    What If Miguel fight Terry Silver instead of Daniel S5
    What If Kenny apologize to Robby? S5
    What If Kyler apologize to Miguel Eli Demetri Sam? S5
    What If Kyler joined Miyagi-Fang? S6 theory
    What If Chozen Is The Key For Tory's Redemption? S6 theory
    What If Daniel did't use the hose on johnny? (Karate Kid)
    What If Bobby get out soccer instead of Daniel? (Karate Kid)
    What If Samantha Saved Anthony of Kenny? S5
    What If Cobra Kai won beat Miyagi-Fang? S5 final
    What If Hawk Told the truth say apologize Moon? S2
    What If Daniel saw Kyler beating up Miguel during Halloween? S1
    What If Sam never rid Daniel? S1
    What If Johnny never betray LaRusso billboard S1
    What If Police saw Shawn beating up Robby? S3
    What If Guys Latino killed Johnny? S3
    What If Robby Saved Kenny away by bullies? S4
    What If Shawn get out jail Saved Kenny away by bullies? S4
    What If Anthony & Samantha brother and sister stay together? (Cobra Kai)
    What If Mike Barnes killed Jessica Andrew? (The Karate Kid part 3)
    What If Daniel killed Freddy Fernandez? (The Karate Kid )
    What If Bobby saved Daniel? (The Karate Kid)
    What If Johnny apologize Daniel's mom? (The Karate Kid)
    What If Kyler apologize Miguel's mom? S1
    What If Chozen stayed in Cobra Kai? S5
    What If Amanda stayed with Daniel before we leave? S5
    What If Hawk Killed Kenny leg? S5
    What If Miguel and Samantha never broke up? S5
    What if Zack chases Kenny Off the fence? S4
    What If Miguel and Robby Kicked Johnny off the balcony ? S5
    What If Robby Never Competed At The All Valley Tournament? S1
    What If Kenny Never Competed At The All Valley Tournament? S4
    What If Kenny Joined Miyagi-Do? S5
    What If Miguel told the truth apologize Robby after give trophy ? S1
    What If Terry Silver Killed Chozen? S5
    What If Stingray told the truth from Daniel ? S5
    What If Kenny Killed technique Bullet on Robby ? S5
    "What If Cobra Kai replace Miyagi-Do of series ?"
    What If Miguel told the truth from Hector ? S5
    What If Kreese told the truth from Johnny S2
    What If Robby & Tory & Miguel & Sam dance together ? S4
    What If Kyler's friends killed Miguel in halloween fight ? S1
    What If Kenny killed Anthony's friends in the library school ? S4
    What If Miguel told the truth Johnny about Kreese (S2 episode 7)
    What If Johnny joined Cobra Kai help Kreese & Terry Silver? S4
    What If Anthony accepted apologize Kenny during basketball S4
    What If Shawn killed Robby ? S3
    What If Kyler killed Johnny ? S1
    What If Johnny killed Kyler ? S1
    What If Johnny Bought Miyagi Do ?
    What If Kreese Bought Cobra Kai?
    What if Miguel Returned The Medal Of Honor To Daniel
    What If Kreese never arrested ? S4
    What If Robby in Juvie with Johnny and Daniel instead of Kreese? S3
    What If Hawk Didn't Fight tournament? (Cobra Kai Season 1)
    What If Kenny Accepted Anthony Apology? (Cobra Kai Season 5)
    What If champ fought champ Hawk and Tory ? (Cobra Kai Season 5)
    What If Sam Saved Miguel of Robby ? (Cobra Kai Season 2)
    What If Tory Saved Miguel of Robby ? (Cobra Kai Season 2)
    What If Sam Saved Robby of Miguel ? (Cobra Kai Season 2)
    What If Tory Saved Robby of Miguel ? (Cobra Kai Season 2)
    What If Robby saved Sam of Tory? (Cobra KaI Season 2)
    What If Sam and Kyler Kissed? (Cobra Kai Season 4)
    What If Tory and Eli Kissed? (Cobra Kai Season 4)
    What if Piper and Kyler Kissed? (Cobra Kai Season 4)
    What If Robby push Hawk of Drowned the pool? (Cobra Kai Season 5)
    What If Robby push Miguel and Sam and Tory of Drowned the pool Stingray's house (Cobra Kai Season 4)

  • @videojuegos-kl1mh
    @videojuegos-kl1mh Před 8 měsíci

    What if Mike killed Chozen in the furniture store or vice versa S5
    What if Robby and Miguel swapped bullies S1.
    Like if Johnny saved Miguel from Trey and Cruz in the minimark then Daniel saved Robby from Kyler and Brucks in the beach

  • @bryandeleonlopez8045
    @bryandeleonlopez8045 Před 6 měsíci

    What if Daniel beat Terry Silver in Stingray’s house
    What if Chozen was there when Daniel fought Terry Silver in Stingray’s house

  • @nicholausbell2749
    @nicholausbell2749 Před 8 měsíci +1

    What if Master Kim Sun yung never died and was in the Karate Kid Trilogy?

  • @MCMCK
    @MCMCK Před 8 měsíci +2

    What if Devon beat tory?
    (Season 5)

  • @xhoanamali9688
    @xhoanamali9688 Před 8 měsíci +2

    What if Tory broke Sam's arm in the arcade
    What if Amanda never got Tory fired
    What if Kim betrayed Terry
    What if Miyigi fang never qualified
    What if Kenny killed Robby with the silver bullet
    What if Amanda never sympathy with Sam in the hospital
    What if Hawk never broke Dimitri's arm

    • @TheJohnnyCotts
      @TheJohnnyCotts Před 8 měsíci

      He covers "What if Kim betrayed Terry?" in this video.

  • @philipkimani1204
    @philipkimani1204 Před 8 měsíci +1

    What if Chozen joined Terry silver I wanna see what will happen to the cobra Kai students

  • @elenalaordenleira1641
    @elenalaordenleira1641 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Es lo que en la mejor
    En las me ha cambio en cobra kai lo que los mejores campeones en que fue
    El al final sexta temporada en que Tory es la mejor
    Alumna de es la mejor en la serie en cobra kai y los nuevos sensei 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @dryixedits5936
    @dryixedits5936 Před 8 měsíci +1

    What if shawn was in Miyagi do part 2 Day 2

  • @CoreysHomies-ww8ts
    @CoreysHomies-ww8ts Před 8 měsíci +1

    What if mugel walked out with Daniel part 3

  • @coreyalexander760
    @coreyalexander760 Před 8 měsíci

    Can you do part 2

  • @BabyKing-sz8vh
    @BabyKing-sz8vh Před 8 měsíci

    Can u please do what if sam and miguel never break up

  • @mariofan-es1tn
    @mariofan-es1tn Před 8 měsíci

    What if Terry Silver killed Daniel (karate kid 3)

  • @Deathgamer595
    @Deathgamer595 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Hey

  • @Anthony_LaRusso_2023
    @Anthony_LaRusso_2023 Před 8 měsíci

    Killing will be punished by law!!!

  • @georgemygdanaleuros7835
    @georgemygdanaleuros7835 Před 8 měsíci

    What if Kenny killed Robby?

  • @justingonzalez651
    @justingonzalez651 Před 8 měsíci +2

    What if mr han trained Daniel

  • @Itsmemelon
    @Itsmemelon Před 8 měsíci +1

    What if the senseis killed Johnny in season 5

  • @Red.SkullYT
    @Red.SkullYT Před 8 měsíci +1

    Silver would kill Kim and all of her senseis.

    • @justinsabath8536
      @justinsabath8536 Před 8 měsíci

      Maybe boxiest should do what if terry silver killed Kim da eun and her 6 sensei’s

    • @Red.SkullYT
      @Red.SkullYT Před 8 měsíci

      @@justinsabath8536 That would be good

    • @ezanamelekot6796
      @ezanamelekot6796 Před 8 měsíci

      No he wouldn't. He can not defeat them all at once. Unless he uses another method to kill them. In plus I don'^t think Terry would try to kill them vene if Kim Da Eun kills. Terry doesn't give a shit to Tory.

  • @KDawg92801
    @KDawg92801 Před 8 měsíci +1

    What if Kreese really died in season 5

    • @TheJohnnyCotts
      @TheJohnnyCotts Před 8 měsíci

      Because that was so late in S5, we'd need to see S6 in order to answer that.

    • @FootballFan12648
      @FootballFan12648 Před 8 měsíci

      This is too early wait for the next season

  • @TankMaster64
    @TankMaster64 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hy

  • @MVPOverLordZSX
    @MVPOverLordZSX Před 8 měsíci +3

    Dude Terry > the fist at once Low diff and He Kills Kim Neg diff