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  • @Paulie8K
    @Paulie8K Před 2 lety +329

    This has been great. My 3080 was running up to 77C in certain games but the undervolt combined with a slight fan curve adjustment got it down to 65° max. Less power and less noise as well. Thanks!

    • @peterpfankuchen
      @peterpfankuchen Před 2 lety +12

      How much did you undervolt and how much are the clock speeds?

    • @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
      @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe Před 2 lety +3

      @@peterpfankuchen it varies from card to card how far you can push the voltage down. generally you can get the same as stock clocks and reduce power by a lot

    • @deanc3362
      @deanc3362 Před rokem +5

      My 3080 12gig is also running about 64-66c and maxed out at 255w (before I was hitting 345w and almost 80c with fans maxed out).

    • @deanc3362
      @deanc3362 Před rokem +14

      @@peterpfankuchen I set my 3080 clock speeds to 1850 at 850mv...seems very stable.

    • @peterpfankuchen
      @peterpfankuchen Před rokem +2

      @@deanc3362 Seems really solid. Which exact card do you have and how much of a performance loss you have compared to stock, if I may ask?

  • @vigvaryb
    @vigvaryb Před 3 lety +234

    I don't even care about the gpu, I just wanna watch vids in this quality with this guy talking

  • @CorpseExplosion
    @CorpseExplosion Před 3 lety +68

    Really glad you did this thank you. Very helpful!

  • @mariopichardo376
    @mariopichardo376 Před 3 lety +7

    Great video, very good to know you could do this to lower heat pushed out into room as well as noise reduction is always as welcome addition.

  • @JustRuda
    @JustRuda Před 2 lety +78

    Undervolting makes a huge difference... My EVGA FTW3 RTX 3080 lost 90W in power consumption. I really appreciate your tips on MHz/mV. It saved me a lot of time.

    • @erikhendrickson59
      @erikhendrickson59 Před rokem +9

      Yup really incredible. 80-100w less (depending on the GPU's silicon quality) for a loss of just 3-5% is really absurd.

    • @JustRuda
      @JustRuda Před rokem +11

      @@erikhendrickson59 Yep... I pushed my power consuption even lower. I lost around 120-140W with 1830MHz@0.806mV with around 5-7FPS loss vs stock

    • @venandis7833
      @venandis7833 Před rokem +2

      My 3080 is UV to 1850Mhz@0.803mV and I tested it with 1440p Black Desert Online maxed out everything and Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra and RT Insane with no crashes at all.

    • @xTurtleOW
      @xTurtleOW Před rokem +7

      My 3090TI was pulling 480W stock, undervolted takes 370w max and thermals drop from 70 to 62. So worth it

  • @andreasotto1977
    @andreasotto1977 Před rokem +6

    Nice! Until today, I only used an adapted curve done by the OC Scanner feature, but with your suggested settings applied to my 3080ti FE, I was able to raise the TS graphics score by 2.1% with a higher stable core clock and lower temps.

  • @staticanimal
    @staticanimal Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks. Always appreciate how clear and concise you are with the videos

  • @vaynardw1
    @vaynardw1 Před 3 lety +8

    This kind of content is what im looking for, hope you will keep doing this as series with future gpu

  • @dk70
    @dk70 Před 3 lety +491

    2019: Lets overclock and push it to the max
    2020: Lets undervolt, lol. This thing eats watts for snacks.

    • @admiralgama6637
      @admiralgama6637 Před 3 lety +44

      From what I've heard, overclocking 3000 series cards doesn't give much extra performance but makes thermals go through the roof. It's generally just not worth it to overclock 3000 GPUs.

    • @ArmChairPlum
      @ArmChairPlum Před 3 lety +25

      @@admiralgama6637 its really thanks to the turbo-boosting the cards do. They are running fairly aggressively.

    • @channelthechannel
      @channelthechannel Před 3 lety +20

      You can still overclock with undervolting, using lower voltage with higher clocks.

    • @maxinfly
      @maxinfly Před 3 lety +2

      @@channelthechannel Lower voltages makes workable freqs less not more. Cheating system failed.

    • @channelthechannel
      @channelthechannel Před 3 lety +21

      @@maxinfly What? You can run higher frequencies at lower voltages. That's kind of the whole point of undervolting... running a certain frequency at a certain voltage. Trying to get the lowest voltage you can with stability.

  • @ishy_exe
    @ishy_exe Před 3 lety +12

    SM580 user here: This is the news I've been waiting for. Thanks for sharing your undervolting numbers as well--very helpful!

  • @javi1981
    @javi1981 Před 3 lety +10

    You are a genius, thanks to you I have managed to eliminate the noise of the coil and almost completely the noise of the fans. In return I have only lost a few fps which does not really affect my gaming experience! Thanks!!! You don't really need a water cooling system !!!

  • @thebbs7634
    @thebbs7634 Před 2 lety +1

    Many thanks! Just after recieving my 3080 I was focused on OC... I saw your video and thats awsome, with your settings I have lower temps and even better score

  • @oliverrrrrrrrrr
    @oliverrrrrrrrrr Před 3 lety +22

    Seeing a new video from this channel always makes my day! 😄 Can't wait to recieve my 3080 before the end of the month.

  • @holmesqualityproducts
    @holmesqualityproducts Před 3 lety +54

    I always undervolt now. After watching your older video with the AMD and Nividia cards and how to do it I swear by it now. I've overclocked when I had a full size case but now would probably undervolt in any case because of thermals. I use to hit 84C on my 2080ti in a SFF now it stays about 78C with normal or less fan curve

  • @ajolly87
    @ajolly87 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video.
    Had completely forgot about undervolting my EVGA 3080 in the Ncase M1

  • @sethmn2560
    @sethmn2560 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank You for posting this. Found this very useful in helping me undervolting my card.

  • @anorax001
    @anorax001 Před 3 lety +88

    You've converted me to the joys of undervolting. Did this on my RTX 3090 and saved 80 watts and reduced a large amount of heat. Best part is it has made almost no difference to framerates and in some cases the framerate is actually a lot more stable.

    • @user-pm7pw1tl3t
      @user-pm7pw1tl3t Před 3 lety +1

      what kind of thermal difference do you have?

    • @erichdiebenow4727
      @erichdiebenow4727 Před 3 měsíci

      @@user-pm7pw1tl3tI know this is super late and I’m not the dude you are replying to but I got some info.
      Bought a 3090 bitcoin miner card. Redid the thermal pads. Undervolted the card. Went from 80 degrees max temp under load to 70 degrees. Idle temps went from 50 to 34 degrees. Performance is exactly the same. Absolutely love it

  • @mickaelbiondi9310
    @mickaelbiondi9310 Před 3 lety +4

    Ali awesome content as always! Keep up for videos like this one👌🏻

  • @jameswyllie9608
    @jameswyllie9608 Před 3 lety +1

    This is a great video to be out there when you’re not gaming or using your computer as a workstation it’s always good to have duel profiles set up as this can save a lot on your bills when the computer is for general use as well

  • @aspuzling
    @aspuzling Před 3 lety +537

    GamersNexus / JayzTwoCents: let's overvolt and overclock with LN2
    OptimumTech: Nah

    • @zixter4756
      @zixter4756 Před 3 lety +52

      While others are playing around with liquid nitrogen, Optimum is showing us what the wast majority of people will want to do. Assuming the card demand gets better and people get their hands on the new gpus.

    • @Optive
      @Optive Před 3 lety +3

      I hate LN2 results they are useless, somone said 6ghz ryzen 5000 and it got me really excited but it's only on the liquid nitrogen.

    • @svn5994
      @svn5994 Před 3 lety +14

      @@Optive Are you really that stupid to believe a Ryzen chipset hitting 6ghz let alone on anything but LN2?

    • @ArmChairPlum
      @ArmChairPlum Před 3 lety +4

      @@svn5994 I don't think we'll see a 6ghz chip.
      At least with silicon.
      Graphene processors in theory, are the next step.

    • @campkira
      @campkira Před 3 lety

      basically laptop... it depend on software... if they need more power...

  • @92gen2
    @92gen2 Před 2 lety +5

    Cheers for this. Have overclocked and undervolted my 3070ti and got 1950MHz at 900mV - up from 1770MHz boost clock. Have been playing Control at 1440p Ultra with Ultra RTX on and had been stable for a period of 3 or so hours of gameplay. The temps went down from 80 degrees max to 73 degrees max and the card doesn't sound like it's going to take off.

  • @biobreaker5009
    @biobreaker5009 Před 3 lety +3

    Love this kind of specific content, keep it up

  • @TheRealLink
    @TheRealLink Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent video, thanks! May give this a shot on my 3090FE, even though airflow is great and temps are far below what's shown.

  • @daniels7345
    @daniels7345 Před rokem +1

    Thanks! Have a 3080 TUF in a A4-H2O and it’s almost silent now without significant performance loss.. Great guide!

    • @heyjate
      @heyjate Před rokem

      which setting do you use?

  • @dmtphone
    @dmtphone Před 3 lety +26

    Undervolting was the best decision I made. Got a little over 15% bump in my vega 64 performance while lowering temps and noise. Been running the same uv/oc for over a year now. From now on I'll try undervolting with all my future gpus

  • @chasboyo
    @chasboyo Před 3 lety +7

    Main point of video (for me): 6:26
    Tells about general clock that gives noticeable improvements without sacrificing performance.

  • @metzli5797
    @metzli5797 Před 3 lety +2

    Ended up just doing a voltage limit....was having issues with VREL at stock. My max stable voltage is 1.068v. So using this method to disallow the gpu boost to go past this fixed my stability problems! Can still boost up to about 2050 depending on the game.

  • @Qalibrated
    @Qalibrated Před rokem

    Thank you! Used your guide for PBO2 undervolting on my 5600X but i'm not sure of the exact temperature difference as i also changed cooler from air to AIO but it did go from quickly hitting 73c on air to barely being able to hit 60c on water, so that's pretty nice! I used this guide to undervolt my 3080 and so far i've only tested with Heaven benchmark. But it dropped 6-8c on GPU/hotspot and 50w less powerdraw with a 2% drop in performance, so that's a good start :)

  • @ronnie3626
    @ronnie3626 Před 3 lety +38

    I am glad you made a video about underclocking and also gave us results and comparisons, very well made. My GTX 1060 Strix is running at 2100MHz with 1063mv and 4400MHz on the VRAM. This is my profile for the maximum performance, I also have a energy saving profile with 1710MHz at 800mv + VRAM OCed at 4400MHz and a balanced profile ehich is basically a optimized stock setting (2000MHz at 960mv, 4400MHz VRAM). I also optimized the fan curve, it is quieter and doesn't get warmer than 66°C, power consumption is also less with balaced profile. :)

    • @gismo3564
      @gismo3564 Před 3 lety

      Is the overclock on memory worth it at the @1710MHz . I know memory does not suck that much power, but i would assume there would still be enough bandwidth with no or smaller overclock to the memory. (just all in the name of saving that little bit extra power :D )
      That is atleast my experience with laptop 1050TI, that at a power saving profile, memory OC is not worth it (1080p)

    • @WizzMuch
      @WizzMuch Před 3 lety

      How would you go about doing this in Linux? (Just assuming you use it cause of your Tux profile picture). After poking around a bit in GWE I don't see any similar functionality.

    • @jadoei13
      @jadoei13 Před 3 lety

      @@gismo3564 Depends on the card, but overclocking memory often has little effect on memory voltage and thus it requires little extra power. Whether that is worth it varies from card to card, on AMD cards it is often worth it. For Nvidia it depends, but a couple of benchmarks should show the differences very quickly (also varies from game to game btw).

    • @ronnie3626
      @ronnie3626 Před 3 lety

      @@WizzMuch I use Linux on my laptop and have dual boot. When running linux on my desktop it just uses stock settings and is idling because I am just doing things like using android kitchens and such things. :)
      Is there a way to optimize the graphics cards setting on linux?

    • @ronnie3626
      @ronnie3626 Před 3 lety

      @@jadoei13 However, I tested memory overcloking on my GTX 1060 and a RX 580. It does not seem to make any difference in power draw for Nvidia cards, but the AMD one comsumed a few (5-15) watts more when raising the memory clock. I just left it at stock and undervolted it a little. Memory overclockig really helps performance, I had around 3-5fps more in 1080p.

  • @Gozzima
    @Gozzima Před 2 lety +6

    Thanks for this simple undervolting guide. It worked perfectly on my new 3080 ti FE with 850mV for 1920MHz which was the stable frequency with factory settings with power reduced from 340W to 305W and -4°C of temperature with the same custom fan curve and less noise.😀

    • @johannparis9445
      @johannparis9445 Před 2 lety

      I have just donit yesterday and with 1695Mhz and 800mv i got down at max 53/54° in 4k 117 fps locked for 120Hz.
      Was 60° in auto before without undervolt.
      From 350 watts (peak to 370 watts) goes between min 235 watts in 250/260 watss in average and max 280 watts in peak
      Game tested Far cry 5 in Ultra 4k 120Hz
      Almost no lost
      Fans was Auto so between 53/54% , before 60%

    • @Erwan040
      @Erwan040 Před rokem

      i got the same card and i got some crash at 0.893 mv and 1935 mhz :/

    • @fiece4767
      @fiece4767 Před rokem +1

      Mine is Fe too but on 850mv same temps, fan speed and power draw as stock. Am i doing something wrong?

    • @Gozzima
      @Gozzima Před 11 měsíci

      after some random crashes in folding@home, I raised the voltage to 875 mV always @1920 MHz. This is now rock stable and almost the same power draw ~300 W under folding@home.

  • @FILMCREWProductions1
    @FILMCREWProductions1 Před 3 lety +1

    Great guide! My founders 3080 was throttling at 83C! And only 1920MHz After undervolting to 900mv I’m getting 1950MHz continuously at just 73C!!!
    I can’t tell if my eyes are deceiving me, but I’ve only run one benchmark so I will see how it holds up over time

  • @Just_Call_Me_Tim
    @Just_Call_Me_Tim Před rokem +1

    I'm looking forward to doing some tweaking. I've got a 3080Ti in the Dan A4 and... she's getting a little toasty. (For those wondering: yes it fits but there's the slightest bit of rubbing between the fan hubs and the side panel. I used a 3m backed 1mm piece of something cut in half to make two 'stand off' kind of things on the fan shroud and that fixed the issue. Can't tell at a glance that anything is different, so it'll work for now.)
    I usually have some extra airflow toward my case, and even then things get toasty.

  • @youtubevanced4900
    @youtubevanced4900 Před 3 lety +46

    Power draw is one of the biggest things pushing me towards Big Navi early next year when I'm looking to upgrade my system.
    I don't want a space heater in my room.

    • @EarthIsFlat456
      @EarthIsFlat456 Před 3 lety +2

      Luckily I live in a cool environment so heat is almost never an issue. In fact I don't even use heater during winter because my PC does the job lol.

    • @ChrisBa303
      @ChrisBa303 Před 3 lety +5

      I dont think big navi will be much cooler. Amd will probably overclock it to be same/faster than an 3080

    • @jadoei13
      @jadoei13 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ChrisBa303 Yeah but underclocking on 7nm is great. There is way more potential on TSMC 7nm then there is on Samsung's refined 10nm node called 8nm. I suspect that if you're willing to run at 1800-1900mhz, you can run at even lower voltages and reduce the power draw even further.

    • @longtran-oi5gf
      @longtran-oi5gf Před 3 lety +4

      @@ChrisBa303 doubt it, they are on a smaller node and advance node while using like on gddr6 (most likely). Gddr6x is the reason why ampere consumes so much power.

    • @bwellington3001
      @bwellington3001 Před 3 lety

      Educated guess is total board power will be about the same.

  • @Beezleybuzz
    @Beezleybuzz Před 3 lety +5

    This is so great! I got my EVGA 3080 XC3 Ultra @ 1950mhz - 931mv! Only loss of about 20-50 mhz but almost 10C cooler.

  • @gauthiergd5499
    @gauthiergd5499 Před 2 lety +1

    Huge thanks to you and your video, i was not a big fan of undervolting before, more of a big overclocking one! i managed to get my 3080 ti's voltage to 830mV @1850mhz and the results are just amazing, 10 degrees less and absolutly no FPS loss, i managed to get "great" and "Excellent" score in time spy (19600 gpu score)

  • @Jose-og909
    @Jose-og909 Před 3 lety

    Thanks man, was looking for this.

  • @hokopl
    @hokopl Před 2 lety +19

    Thanks for the tutorial.
    Here is my results with i7-6700k overclocked to 4,5 GHz, and after 30 minutes of Heaven benchmark. All data was taken from HWinfo, and power draw measured from the socket using power meter
    RTX 3070 Ti
    - Stock
    GPU max Boost : 1935Mhz
    Voltage : 1.081 mV
    Max temp - 77
    Hot Spot temp - 87
    Max fan speed - 1684 RPM
    Heaven Benchmark 4k score - 1325
    Power usage - 380W
    RTX 3070 Ti
    - UV
    GPU max Boost - 2010 Mhz
    Voltage - 0.950 mV
    Max temp - 70
    Hot Spot temp - 80
    Max fan speed - 1438 RPM
    Heaven Benchmark 4k score - 1387
    Power usage - 320W

  • @reavl6494
    @reavl6494 Před 3 lety +3

    3:21, guys apply every data point here in a curve and you'll get a nice curve, i went from default clocks on my TUF 3080 OC at 1890-1980mhz while volting 100mv less on each mhz, using 10W less power at max I achieved a stable clock around 2000mhz (1980-2040mhz). My temps also went like 10 degrees down. Its crazy how i only ever saw core clock speeds over 2000mhz once in a blue moon with a totally cold start, and now its just consistency over 2000mhz even after hours of load with the undervolt.

  • @MFMArt
    @MFMArt Před 3 lety +2

    Im running 1925 @ 825 mv feeling good about my 3090 fe silicon. Thanks for covering this , was waiting for more people to talk about this for ampere!

    • @PlamoPeppa
      @PlamoPeppa Před 3 lety

      Wow, I thought 1965 @ 925 mV was pretty good on my 3080, with the size of the heatsink on that 3090 and it running cooler anyway you must have an absolutely cool and quiet beast there.

    • @MFMArt
      @MFMArt Před 3 lety

      @@PlamoPeppa yea with 30% fans it doesnt go past 60c running port royale, i ran into some issues since my comment and decided to pump it up a little but im still 1925 @ 850MV and its perfectly stable now, its really impressive stuff.
      Playing genshin impact right now at 45C lol

  • @Rosco879
    @Rosco879 Před rokem +1

    Fantastic video, especially considering the date published.

  • @ARealPain
    @ARealPain Před 2 lety +5

    I undervolt my 2080 ti and still get the same fps in 1080p gaming. Love it because I dropped 7-10 degrees 70-73 to roughly 60ish. The stock OC would go to 2050 but I stepped it down to 1800.

  • @marcgeler6264
    @marcgeler6264 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice guide thank you.
    I have a Msi Rtx 3080 Trio Gaming Z. It now runs on 850mV at 1905mhz and consumes a maximum of 280W. On the 1st floor it goes up to 380W

    • @shubhamhire3065
      @shubhamhire3065 Před 2 lety

      Do you recommend your gpu for gaming purpose especially at 1440 175Hz. How has your experience been so far of Msi Gaming z trio rtx 3080, do you recommend it?

  • @Shini1984
    @Shini1984 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks. I managed to get the best 3d mark performance so far using less power, less heat and less fan noise thanks to minor undervoltage based on this guide. This also means I get less fan noise as a result of less heat when gaming! In short: awesome!

  • @nilsejlertsson
    @nilsejlertsson Před 3 lety +1

    Great work Ali, keep them videos commin'!
    Also, rtx 3000 in ghost s1, there's a video alot of us sff ppl would like!

  • @FKuoni
    @FKuoni Před 3 lety +4

    I used 1950MHz with 931 mV on a Tuf 3080 ans it's soo worth it ! The temps dropt around 5 degrees (75 C to 70 C) while using a lower fan speed (75% to 65%) (gaming on 1440p High settings)
    Case: Ncase M1 V6

  • @Bennedict929
    @Bennedict929 Před 3 lety +11

    Instead of dragging the entire curve down, you can instead press shift while highlighting the curve from the preferred voltage to the highest one, click on that preferred voltage point, press shift+enter and then enter again. Now all the other voltage point higher than the one you click will have the exact same clock speed as your preferred one.

    • @garethevans9789
      @garethevans9789 Před 3 lety +4

      That was also mean higher power & temps at lower speeds. Power usage for semiconductors is always a curve.

    • @Bennedict929
      @Bennedict929 Před 3 lety +3

      @@garethevans9789 well, actually no. what i was doing is keeping the power curve for lower speeds at stock, while capping the max clock on a certain voltage.

    • @weiliao7642
      @weiliao7642 Před 8 měsíci

      @@garethevans9789 the problem of dragging the whole curve down is that when the GPU is idle, it could be unstable because the voltage is too low. what we are trying to achieve here is to reduce the power draw and noise when we play games, it's pointless to drop the voltage when the CPU is at a low frequency when it's idle.

  • @WhiteWolfTechGaming
    @WhiteWolfTechGaming Před rokem

    Awesome video, just watched your in-depth undervolting video to get my GPU undervolted. Just bought a 3090 MSI Gaming X Trio and undervolted it to 1875MHz @ 843mV and getting temps at 52C to 55C when playing Red Dead Redemption 2 at 4k 60fps with all graphic settings (for the most part) maxed out. I don't have any crazy, aggressive fan curve on my GPU or case fans either - my overall PC noise levels when under load are abut 40-42dB (which I guess is the preferred average) - I thought this was really odd but guess I got super lucky with getting these temp and noise level results from this card.

  • @Highyeena
    @Highyeena Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for the video! I had been mildly confused as to how to get afterburner to go flat at the top end so I had avoided undervolting until getting a 3000 series (I used to have a 2070 Super) but this video was super easy to follow so now I'm running a super modest undervolt -- my FTW3 Ultra 12gb 3080 was running at around 2040 MHz @ 1125 mV or so while gaming -- now, I'm @ 1950 / 925. Could probably go lower / more efficient, but I'm seeing about 5 degrees temp drop and not seeing any difference in performance so I'll take it.

    • @syko3298
      @syko3298 Před 2 lety

      My EVGA XC3 RTX 3080 10GB is more or less the same as yours after I undervolt it too.

  • @austinlewis6944
    @austinlewis6944 Před 3 lety +6

    I love this idea! It makes me want to wait though for the rumored ampere on tsmc cards that are supposed to come out in 2021. It hurts me to see that Nvidia had to throw so much power at these cards to get the performance they give. I'm really curious to see how Big navi is with power efficiency and performance. I believe it's using the tsmc for memory and rumors suggest that it may take less power for similar performance. We'll see soon enough though.

    • @concinnus
      @concinnus Před 3 lety +1

      TSMC doesn't make memory. But their process is better than Samsung's, so AMD should be more efficient.

    • @bullshitdepartment
      @bullshitdepartment Před rokem +2

      @@concinnus and it is!

  • @intigimp
    @intigimp Před 3 lety +26

    I've been looking for this data since the launch of the 3080. SOME of us have 550W PSUs, and since GPUs are usually tuned far past the point of peak efficiency and reference specs are very conservative, this is a very sensible point to research and surprisingly uncommon on tech channels.
    (Not that anyone can buy one of these things right now!)

    • @clickbait9744
      @clickbait9744 Před 2 lety +1

      lol I have 550w psu with rtx 3080 ti and its working perfecly fine
      gpu takes 350w cpu 110w and there is 90w left for the motherboard and memory

    • @aaronlod3850
      @aaronlod3850 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah but isnt there this 80% best transfer rate theory, which you should keep your total system power at 80% of the PSU capability? Asking seriously here not being sarcasm.

    • @HokieD1993
      @HokieD1993 Před 2 lety

      I found this video because of the same thing. I have a year old 550 psu in my gaming rig. I am running a stock speed Ryzen 3070X which is very efficient so I wouldn't need much of a reduction in RTX 3080 watts.

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the video!
    I did know that undervolting is a good thing, but maaan, reducing like 50-100 watt is really incredible!
    Thanks for sharing this knowledge!

  • @StopaskingformynameYouTube

    I undervolted and 120mm modded my Asus Rog strix 3070TI, it now sits at 60C allmost silent at 1980Mhz core and +1000mhz memory.
    The neat thing about doing this on my 3070ti was that the shroud fits perfectly over the 120mm fans, i just used a strip of foam tape and the shroud with its RGB just friction fit around the fans.
    Looks stock, but with a few extra millimeters thickness so it's a 4.5 slot card.
    Great success.

  • @mip83
    @mip83 Před 3 lety +230

    Is your undervolt still stable in ray traced titles? I think you are stressing more of the GPU with RT, so it’s worth checking. I had to back off my undervolt a little bit (which was stable with heaven)

    • @ryandietz7878
      @ryandietz7878 Před 3 lety +46

      Yeah, I had the same experience. Was fine until I tried an RTX title.

    • @skrmpf1
      @skrmpf1 Před 3 lety +29

      Same here (3080 fe). Looks like Ali got the same values I got in heaven. But had to turn up the voltage a bit for getting through more demanding stress tests.
      Time spy stress test loop was actually less stable than port royale. Those two even manage to hit power limit at anything above 950mv.
      So to avoid crashes to due power limit i went with 1980@950mv. But in many instances it settles at 1965mhz

    • @sumkid9263
      @sumkid9263 Před 3 lety +20

      I tried control and minecraft rtx after undervolting and didnt see a big difference in performance

    • @ryandietz7878
      @ryandietz7878 Před 3 lety +42

      @@sumkid9263 same here. I was able to save 75w or so with zero performance impact

    • @3rd.world.eliteAJ
      @3rd.world.eliteAJ Před 3 lety +24

      I had a similar problem when I undervolted my Pascal gpu, I don't think it's related to RTX, rather that Heaven benchmark stresses the GPU differently than an actual game engine, which made my gpu driver crash at certain undervolts. It's always a good idea to give it +15mv when you find a stable undervolt to make sure it will stay that way in any workload.

  • @robertotomas
    @robertotomas Před 3 lety +14

    Wondering how many numerical errors this would produce for compute applications. I know that the reason the voltage is high is to keep the computation accurate, and that in graphics it doesn’t matter so much if the numbers are off: the coloration might be slightly different but you’re not likely to notice. That’s why undervolting works for games. But how far can you safely go, in terms of scientific computing

    • @monkgogimasedi5265
      @monkgogimasedi5265 Před 3 lety

      Very interesting. Not a pro, but maybe the error checking functionality of gdr6x will offset such an issue.

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive Před 3 lety +1

      Bits are on/off not analogue values so floating point number results shouldn't be effected. When the voltage drops below that required for the transistors to work, the whole program logic fails after all it's operation depends on that insufficient voltage switching fast enough.
      But you can run test programs to check operation, with dynamic frequency changes depending on work load it becomes harder to test every performance level. So limiting voltage and testing at max work load makes practical sense, as heat and noise is less at lower frequencies anyway

    • @robertotomas
      @robertotomas Před 3 lety +5

      @@RobBCactive bits themselves are analog. There is a threshold for response where a bit is on or off. Error checking is built in to caches and buses to ensure loss is minimal, but they work within a threshold of tolerance. That tolerance is set at a given charge who’s energy is provided constantly from a source but modulated (divided) but internal clocks. Lower power too much and it fails to function entirely. In between, you have a band where it can function, but there are errors. Above that is stability. Above that for any given card is the rated stability, which is the MHz that the card is offered at. There is some wiggle room, but not so much, especially in the age of binning and aftermarket fine tuning. But the “tolerable” level of error is high when the output is visual, and the errors might only express themselves in subtle shifts of color in some small number of pixels each frame.

  • @X_x77x_X
    @X_x77x_X Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the info man!!

  • @HugoVanArt
    @HugoVanArt Před 2 lety +1

    Nice transparent content you put together. Could I try the same mV settings for a watercooled 3090? Custom loop with two 360mm rads and distroplate for cpu/gpu. Thanks in advance

  • @mitchellblu3
    @mitchellblu3 Před 3 lety +10

    I have an EVGA FTW3 3090 and the first one I RMAd thinking it had power spike issues since it would trigger my Seasonic 750 watt psu protection and shut off. I now have a Superflower 1000 watt platinum and with the new card from EVGA I occasionally get breaker trips in my home which is just mind boggling as I'm nowhere near the limit for the 15amp breaker. (roughly 700 watts being pulled from the wall for the PC) I'm now undervolted at 900mV at 1950Mhz and don't seem to have any artifacting yet. According to HWinfo I've gone from a 420watt peak at stock profile which was 1920MHz all the way down to a peak of 345watts while keeping slightly better average fps in Unigine Heaven. Hopefully this will remain stable and work for me. All I can say is thank you and you have definitely gained a new sub.

    • @rsleepy255
      @rsleepy255 Před 2 lety +3

      I currently have this problem and rmad my strix 3080 and will undervolt my card. Care to give an update on how it's working out for you?

    • @ExoticOnTheBeat
      @ExoticOnTheBeat Před 2 lety

      @@rsleepy255 any info on how it went? I have no idea what i'm even doing lol. I somehow got lucky and ended up with a high end gaming pc and i'm coming from console and i can only assume i'm having the same issues as yall.

  • @BobWes251
    @BobWes251 Před 3 lety +7

    Currently running 1890MHz @ 825mV on a EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra and it is absolutely beautiful. Temps in benchmarking dropped 10-15 degrees and with no noticeable performance drop.

    • @dangonzalez752
      @dangonzalez752 Před 2 lety

      Any crashes, my games crashed in apex running 1850 MHz @ 850mV but that might just be apex

    • @arianna4442
      @arianna4442 Před rokem

      850mv and 1860mHz but 60c degrees and -100 watt for same performance of stock. Im happy

    • @arianna4442
      @arianna4442 Před rokem

      @@dangonzalez752 go to 875mv

  • @user-lk5kn2tr7k
    @user-lk5kn2tr7k Před rokem

    Thanks for detailed information. It was very helpful.

  • @lyndy101
    @lyndy101 Před 2 lety

    Thanks dude. Worked great for my 3080.

  • @XxxTheCoolKidxxX
    @XxxTheCoolKidxxX Před 3 lety +4

    I was able to get 2055 @ 950mV on my 3090. The card settles in @ 2025 because of the air cooler. I'm pretty sure I can 2200-ish MHz once I build a custom loop. This is my first time undervolting a gpu; power supply units are expensive right now.

  • @rangegod98
    @rangegod98 Před 3 lety +146

    Been waiting 1 month since launchday for my 3080 to be delivered... Maybe I'll try undervolting it one day 😔

    • @m.n.7382
      @m.n.7382 Před 3 lety +6

      Why don't you wait 10 days for the RX6000 series?

    • @rangegod98
      @rangegod98 Před 3 lety +5

      @@m.n.7382 To be honest I might not have a choice because I don't think my 3080 will arrive before then..
      I pre ordered on September 17th and haven't heard anything since other than a queue position email..

    • @EarthIsFlat456
      @EarthIsFlat456 Před 3 lety +37

      @@m.n.7382 The DLSS from NVIDIA is just too good to pass. Until AMD offers something similar I won't consider an AMD GPU.

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 Před 3 lety +20

      @@EarthIsFlat456 Until AMD offers working drivers :D

    • @pakiboyhadrou
      @pakiboyhadrou Před 3 lety +7

      just cancel it, nvidia's bullshit shady business does not deserve it, give a shot to amd i am sure it will have same if not better perf at lower price

  • @el10leo
    @el10leo Před měsícem

    This is likely the best undervolting video on youtube, so thorough and compact. Insane production effort. I bought a second hand 3090 that was used to mine and undervolting is crucial for me.

  • @daniellisy7161
    @daniellisy7161 Před 3 lety +1

    I will try with my EVGA 3080 Ultra, I have a ITX NZXT 210 with just a 560 platinum PSU, so reducing consumtion will help me as mentioned with the thremals, hope the PSU will manage better as well as the electricity bill to be slightly lower :D

  • @musicxxa6678
    @musicxxa6678 Před 2 lety +12

    When testing core clock stability after years of experience, i can say that
    1- Killing Floor 2: Maxed settings with Nvidia Flex enabled.
    2- Control: maxed settings RT max and DLSS enabled if you don't have meaningful fps (around 60)
    these two easily shows the limit of your silicon.

  • @Snoopey0
    @Snoopey0 Před 3 lety +8

    Any volta curve recommendations for a 3080 Ti?

    • @andrewmorris3479
      @andrewmorris3479 Před 2 lety +1

      I’m running mine 0.900V at 1905Mhz EVGA FTW3 Ultra and it’s working great.

  • @afterthat8648
    @afterthat8648 Před 3 lety +1

    man your channel its Awesom and you will reach 1.000.000 SUBS soon good luck and will done Excelent content Keeep up man you are the best

  • @donahu85
    @donahu85 Před 3 lety +1

    Really nice result and nice video. Is there a way to export and share profile from MSI Afterburner ? I am definitly interested by this kind of tweak, since I own a SF tower.

  • @user9267
    @user9267 Před rokem +4

    Undervolting is so satisfying that I just look up videos like this sometimes

  • @Optive
    @Optive Před 3 lety +5

    Do you have to keep msi afterburner running in the background to have this on 24/7? when are we getting a gpu bios haha

    • @Leaf_mp4
      @Leaf_mp4 Před 3 lety +2

      Nope. Once you save the curve to a profile and apply it you should be good to go.

    • @Optive
      @Optive Před 3 lety +1

      @@Leaf_mp4 yay!

  • @douglasregehr9381
    @douglasregehr9381 Před 3 lety +2

    Would the decrease in wattage and thermal needs in the 3080 make it acceptable in an NZXH H1 build? (With stock 650w SFX)

  • @max1we
    @max1we Před 25 dny

    This guide helped me so much !! Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @carrot9963
    @carrot9963 Před 3 lety +26

    Would love to see a review on the P-ATX case!

    • @mr.banana4178
      @mr.banana4178 Před 3 lety

      P-atx???

    • @Calosteur
      @Calosteur Před 3 lety +1

      @@mr.banana4178 It's a small form factor atx case

    • @carrot9963
      @carrot9963 Před 3 lety +5

      @@mr.banana4178 It is a 9 litres case that supports full sized GPU and an ATX form factor motherboard!

    • @salmanshaik1298
      @salmanshaik1298 Před 3 lety

      Second that

  • @hazindu
    @hazindu Před 3 lety +7

    I actually would underclock a 3090. If I chose one, it would likely be more for the RAM than the core vs the 3080. My summer profile for my 2080ti is .8volt at 1600Mhz, and it draws roughly the same power as the gtx1080 it replaced.

  • @solastalgia440
    @solastalgia440 Před 3 lety

    My stock dell 3070 varied between 1750-1950Mhz, voltage varied between 850-1000mV and it consumed 220W on average. I fixed it at 1800Mhz @ 825mV and now it consumes 164W, this seems to be optimal. I also cranked the memory speed from 7000 to 8000Mhz. I then relaxed the fan curve so it makes half the noise roughly, targeting a loaded GPU temp of 70C. I set MSI afterburner to start with windows minimised with this profile. I haven't had any problems thus far.

  • @Elly2tm
    @Elly2tm Před 3 lety

    Hey man, thanks for another great video! I think you forgot to add the link to the undervolting tutorial - would love to check that out :)

  • @soumen08
    @soumen08 Před 3 lety +17

    An even simpler way - drop the power limit to like 90 in afterburner, and raise the core and memory clocks by 50 or 100 or 150 or 200, depending on what is stable for you. Preferably, use an RT game to decide stability, like control, because RT games are more demanding and crash more often if your card is at the margin of stability.

    • @harryshuman9637
      @harryshuman9637 Před rokem +2

      Not the same thing, the card will still run at higher voltage. Here you specifically cap the voltage.

  • @BetteBalterZen
    @BetteBalterZen Před 3 lety +8

    I just got my 3090 ROG STRIX and I will undervolt it. I play in 5120x1440p, so I'll go for the 1850MHz. A good middle ground, as you showed.

  • @j.d.4697
    @j.d.4697 Před 2 lety +1

    Got an EVGA 3070 ftw3 Ultra and in games and benchmarks it stays under 65C with stock/automatic fan control, which makes the fan go up to around 40% maybe, I'm amazed!
    Though to be fair, the hotspot, which NVIDIA and partners conveniently don't display, tends to be around 10C higher, but my fan controller picks it up so I set my case fans accordingly.
    Wondering if undervolting would still make any sense for me...

  • @cristianmontecinos2692
    @cristianmontecinos2692 Před 3 lety +1

    He reducido el 90% del coil whine con esto, muchas gracias! he dejado en 1750 mhz con 786mv la RTX 3080 gaming X trio :D

  • @kostistsiutras4373
    @kostistsiutras4373 Před rokem +3

    Asus Rtx 3080 Gaming OC 10GB, undervolted and overclocked @0.900Mv, 1980Mhz, +300Mem, 62 degrees, 270max Watt draw.

    • @asOCiATE53
      @asOCiATE53 Před rokem

      wow very good card m8 it runs good ?

  • @riba2233
    @riba2233 Před 3 lety +4

    Guys just don't forget, undervolt is sort of overclock, and there is still a dose of silicon lottery required. You might or might not get lucky.

  • @MrLK97
    @MrLK97 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video as always! :) Unfortunately 786V at 1750MHz doesn't work for my system. I'm running the 3080 Fe in the ncase M1 and the rdr2 benchmark crashes midway.
    (I adjusted the voltage/MHz curve at idle)

  • @JawadAliQamar
    @JawadAliQamar Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much for this info.

  • @krishnachandranM
    @krishnachandranM Před 3 lety +4

    Watching these videos is so enjoyable even though I can't afford the RTX3000 card..

    • @ophatjb
      @ophatjb Před 3 lety +1

      Well you can't get one if you could afford it now anyways... My delivery has been moved 4 times already

    • @krishnachandranM
      @krishnachandranM Před 3 lety

      @@ophatjb Thats' sad.. Hope you have at least something to play on till it arrives..

    • @ophatjb
      @ophatjb Před 3 lety +1

      @@krishnachandranM Well I'll be fine with my 1080ti meanwhile :D

    • @jc-pk3gj
      @jc-pk3gj Před 3 lety +2

      Don't worry, even if you had the money, it's almost impossible to get one

  • @radacious29
    @radacious29 Před 3 lety +9

    I need to do some tests but in addition to undervolting I unlocked the power limit and clock the memory 1000 MHz higher without much difference in power

    • @C4rb0n6
      @C4rb0n6 Před 3 lety +5

      clocking the memory too high can result in lower performance since the gddr6x is error correcting

    • @uncleren
      @uncleren Před 3 lety

      Memory overclock has no performance gain on these cards

  • @Dellerss
    @Dellerss Před 3 lety +2

    I look forward to trying this out tonight. 370W is a bit much IMO, which is what my card runs at stock (Palit GameRock OC).

    • @A_z_A_r
      @A_z_A_r Před rokem

      I had same card i will try doing it

  • @glittlehoss
    @glittlehoss Před rokem

    After setting the under volt to your recommendation on my fe 3090 my score in time spy extreme went from 10100 to 10350. Crazy it is now better with lower power draw.

  • @HoveKB
    @HoveKB Před 3 lety +3

    After doing this my 3090 tops out at 68C running timespy benchmark while hovering between 1905-1980MHz

    • @Perodigdug
      @Perodigdug Před 3 lety

      How? Undervolting like this would only get you +/- 15MHz in variance

    • @dobbart
      @dobbart Před 2 lety

      @@Perodigdug probably hitting power limit…timespy will do that

  • @franzpleurmann2585
    @franzpleurmann2585 Před 3 lety +18

    Where is the in depth link for undervolting with msiafterburner? 😩

  • @rogerderrer4924
    @rogerderrer4924 Před 3 lety +1

    Best Post ever !!! Like your work ! Undervolted my Eagle RTX 3070 860mv@1860Mhz 10 Degrees less in my H210i , greetings from Switzerland ;)

  • @howardgipps7351
    @howardgipps7351 Před rokem

    Excellent and clear explanation. Great work.

  • @binjeam4243
    @binjeam4243 Před 3 lety +12

    videos i watch with the boys: 3090 overclocking battle
    videos i watch alone:

  • @Spookybot
    @Spookybot Před 3 lety +3

    ali: here's the fan noise difference
    me watching this video without headphones in the living room: i don't hear anything

  • @albertchung30
    @albertchung30 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much for your guide with the specific mV for the clock frequencies. I recently got an Aorus Xtreme RTX 3090 Waterforce WB card and put together a Corsair Hydro X loop just for it. But I have the Corsair 500D RGB SE case (not quite a hotbox but not the best thermals), and with a 360mm and 240mm radiator and five LL120 fans, cooling the card with my 9900k at under 100% fan speed wasn't cutting it. I guess under most other people's circumstances it would be fine, but I can only game at night in my room with my wife and kids sleeping with me (thus 85% fan speed isn't disturbing to them, but 100% is), and during the winter she keeps the heater on for the kids. Last night my coolant temp was reaching 52C with no sign of stabilizing, and I while I understand that my DDC pump has a max operating temp of 60C, I really didn't want to push it. With nothing else to try, I finally decided to give undervolting a try, and it is much appreciated that you have already tested these values. Undervolting my card to 850mV for 1850MHz not only keeps the card under 49C and the coolant under 47C, it also keeps the core clock stabilized at 1830-1845MHz (before it would fluctuate from 1715MHz to 1860MHz). Performance seems about the same and my temperature issue is now completely under control. Thank you so much for your awesome content. Been with you since 100k and know you will crack 1M!

    • @MetalAsFork
      @MetalAsFork Před 3 lety +1

      Formatting bro.
      No one's reading that.

    • @DanishAnsari2351
      @DanishAnsari2351 Před 3 lety

      great! but no ones reading that long paragraph 😜

  • @otakusoulemotion
    @otakusoulemotion Před 3 lety +1

    This is amazing thank you so much

  • @moejazi
    @moejazi Před 3 lety +3

    Realest reviewer in the game! Keep em coming brother!

    • @bluephreakr
      @bluephreakr Před 3 lety +1

      Just under Steve Burke, but still as trustworthy. I go to Steve for the science, but Ali for practical application.

    • @moejazi
      @moejazi Před 3 lety

      @@bluephreakr stephene burke* yes I agree but this channel is dedicated to ITX parts, cases and cooling. Anything revolving around that is what he deals with. Now I know the testing isnt 100% accurate but its +/- 2 degrees imo

    • @abdulmuhaimin5274
      @abdulmuhaimin5274 Před 3 lety +1

      @@moejazi Mate, it's Steve from Gamers Nexus

    • @moejazi
      @moejazi Před 3 lety +1

      @@abdulmuhaimin5274 I know it is but his real name is Stephen burke.

  • @physicsnerd02
    @physicsnerd02 Před 3 lety +5

    5:03 "Now reduced power is cool and all"
    I mean. Yeah.

  • @hazindu
    @hazindu Před 2 lety

    I had air con problems back in May, so I made my RTX 3090's summer mode 1600MHZ at 786. I found that's kind of the bottom out point, Any lower on voltage isn't stable, and any lower on clock doesn't reduce power consumption much. Once Afterburner malfunctioned and stuck at idle clock speed and the game still drew 80% the power of 1600(786).
    Anyway, the AC is fixed and I'm running a nice cool 1800.

  • @haoluo3672
    @haoluo3672 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm using a 2080ti so I followed his other video on the same topic. (1950/7300@0.900v) Much better thermal (avg. -10 degrees) and much more stable clock. The only sacrifice was an average of 3 FPS from 111 to 108 in the benchmarking.