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Pan-Slavism versus Neo-Slavism, what is the difference between the two?
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Every time i see a map of kosovo, especially on channels like this i get confused. Do you support radical islam? Why insult 8 million Serbs? Do you think you will have the support from Serbs if you always put kosovo at independent? I'm a refugee from kosovo and over 30 of my family members can never go back. It takes 10 seconds to delete it from any modern map in MS Paint. C'mon man...
He's just pointing the reality of the fact of how thiings are now, that doesn't mean he supports them.
Kondenzator I actually went and deleted the border on the main map (green map). I might've missed it on some other map, still Im not sure on which map?
Turmoil im just saying. If any slav country was occupied by radical islam and a part of its territory declared a country i would never accept it out of principle...
If you watched my videos a bit, you'd knew I don't recognize Kosovo nor I support Islam in Europe, again not sure what makes you think this.
You can just make Slavic Union that is something parallel to European Union, that way you have still all the countries but you have bigger co operation and trade in general.
yeah i fell like the european union is trying to make trained hounds of us
@AssixTV Hungary is not Slavic, but yea someting like that would be ideal, there is 3 seas iniciatieve as well
@@TROLLSPAM666 you could say Hungarians are honorary Slavs as Poland and Hungary are BFFs!
@@CO84trucker hungarians are genetically similar to slavs but culturally different.
The Magyar were steppe nomads like the mongols which were a ruling elite over slavic populations. They, however, brought their language to the region.
@@antonioklaic4839 Yeah true, but it is never good to read too closely into genetics. A standard Magyar language has survived centuries and the people embrace a history of originating farther east, and their ancestors ultimately bearing the Estonians, Finns, Karelians and others. I totally agree that if a Slavic union were to surpass a "European" union (such as the actual EU), I'd like us to be cooperative and friendly with the Hungarian people, and Romanians, and Baltic Rim states, and even all Turkic nations.
Neo ! Serbs are Serbs, Slovenians are Slovenians, Poles are Poles. But we should unite
If Slavs United, Russia would probably want to dominate
@@nikolaslijepcevic5351 they will, simple of the fact of their power and ressources. but i think the domination will be just in the politicel field, not in the normal life of the people.
@Josip Ye they wanted to dominate thats why we had Croatian president. Shut up
@Josip If they wanted to dominate, it only needed the rest of you to step up to the plate with the same bellicose approach used for your independence and use it to bring the Serbs into line. Ivory Coast didn't break up just because the southern based Ivorians dominated the northern mixed non-Ivorians. With French help, the north conquered the south but it is still one country.
@Josip Without prejudice (I'm from Ukraine originally). First I didn't know who you represented. I gather you are a champion for Croatian independence and so I will address you as such. No.1 - yes a majority of Croatians feel the breakup of Yugoslavia was positive but 22% did not agree. I refer to a 2017 poll across the sphere. Croatia came second after Kosovo for this sentiment. In Kosovo only 10% still liked Yugoslavia, but that figure is big enough to take in ALL non-Albanians plus SOME Albanians if few. In Croatia 55% were satisfied with what went down, but there is no information on how the outstanding 23% responded. Slovenia it may surprise you to know that 45% saw the breakup as negative but that beat the 41% who saw it as positive. Elsewhere a majority saw the breakup as negative. My point is that there is no global position - everything is relative to the individual. Now you need to realise that there is a difference between CROATIA, and CROATS. Croats unified in their attempt to break free and this included a million or so scattered across a not very affluent Bosnia & Herzegovina, while Croatia's Serbs - present on that territory - rebelled and tried to create a breakaway state of their own. To that end, the conflict was not as economical as it had been sectarian. Yugoslavia was indeed formed after the fall of Austria-Hungary, however it is wrong to attribute that period as the INCEPTION for a Yugoslav state. Even before WWI started, the Croatian-Serb alliance swept Croatian elections in 1913 and in Dalmatia the winning parties were all pro-Yugoslav. Though Yugoslavism was born at least two centuries earlier. You might be confusing the fact that the mass of Croats who fought as Austro-Hungarians at the start of WWI began to defect to the opposite side which is correct, but ignores the fact that Croats were pro-Yugoslav in Dalmatia, in the diaspora, and in many other pockets. As for whether you should stick together - you decide that, not your neighbour, not your leader. However it is not a question of ideological gain. Croatia & Slovenia used the pretext of being "developed" to leave Yugoslavia. So what was Bosnia & Macedonia's excuse, the latter being ultra-poor? Ukraine is also poor AND dwindling since 2014's Euromaidan. It's not a matter of what makes you richer and what makes you poorer. Those feats are malleable. Sweden was once poor but now is rich. Parts of Africa were once rich and then became poor. Either you support Yugoslav unification or you oppose it. If you oppose it, you don't need excuses, "oh but we are so rich", or "but they just discriminate us" because from the time Serbs, Romanians, Montenegrins and Greeks decided to rebel against the Ottomans (from early 19th century), Ottoman authorities changed hands several times. What did it matter, "independence MEANS independence; no negotiation, nothing!". So while I empathise with anyone telling me there was a problem for their land in Yugoslavia, I am only seeing a petition for reform and not a mandate to fragment the union. I hope you see my point which is neither pro- nor anti- one thing or another, only the REASONING people give.
One more note, I said the French helped in IVORY COAST when giving you an analogy to the Yugoslav crisis. I never meant in Croatia's Homeland War.
Slava brate! Слава брате! :)
Привет из России! ( Hello from Russia!) Мои славянские братья! ( My Slavic brothers!) Мне 17.( to me 17)
We need to create a common Slavic language and make it a second official language in every Slavic nation. That way we will gain the numerous benefits of having the same language, without losing the native languages. These days most of us know at least two languages anyway.
Good idea..
In 20-s in Soviet Russia this idea began to be applied. Russian should apply Latin letters and vocabulary closer to Western Slavic nations. But in 30-s when fascism arose in Europe, even in Slavic countries too, the idea of common Slavic language had been stopped.
Atheinsmo .. it exist already . .:) :) :) but not officialy .. .: )
Atheismo
go to interslavic -->
steen.free.fr/interslavic/index.html
(in my opinion, the slavs must have a cyrillic alphabet.)
Boris .. totally disagreee .. i as a Czech i am happy for latin alphabeth ..i can read cyrlilic without problem but latin is better for me ... and its a part of our (Czech,Polish,Slovak etc) culture ...
Привет из России, мой выбор - Неославизм, все равны
Солидарен!
Kolovrat navždy ! Sláva Rodu Bratři a Sestry ! Milujte se a množte se !
разумем све што си рекао. ваистину.
Finally ,my favorite CZcamsr uploaded a video,
Keep up the *Slavic* Work man..
Confederacy of independent slav countries?
Why not to begin with .....
Yeah, a confederacy sounds like a more realistic and better idea. Without Russia though... They would have too much of a monopoly.
@@hrvojecerin Why without Russia !? Russia is a big power, power that we all need to have on our side. No more separation between brothers ! Our enemies are happy if we hate each-other, if we don't help each-other and if we are in war against each-other. If we are separated, we are hlping to our enemies to conquest us ! No more separation between brothers !
@@hrvojecerin ahah. Without Russia you become puppet of Polen. Slavic country must be with Russia because Rus most biggest, power and tolerance of all
From Russia :)
@@varvar5379 10000000% Agree
FROM SLOVAKIA WITH LOVE :)
Ahoj! Here is my opinion:
One slavic state sounds great, but I honestly think is impossible. As you said - the bigger ones will try to overpower others and after few generations, we would lose our identity. Our cultures would be mixed into one. I don´t want that. Also I don´t think, this state would even be created. Seems impossible to me.
Every slavic state is different. That´s good and that´s how it should be.
But also we share some similarities and instead of a single state, it would be better to create something similar to European Union. Not a one state, but a union of states.
We are all a one family. A large family. Imagine such a big family would live under one roof. I see a disaster and arguments.
As a union of states, we can preserve our own cultures and be friends. Be a functional family.
I recently visited an European Union. People at my ages, from non-slavic countries wants to be a one-european family. I can´t understand why. They said we have a one culture. That was the biggest nonesense I have ever heard. We don´t. My opinion is, that European Union will one day fall and then we shall create a Slavic Union - not a state, but a union of states. Because we are truly a family and this relationship could work.
Sorry for possible gramtical mistakes. I hope you understand what i meant.
Greetings from the Czech Republic to all my slavic friends.
A slavic single state isn't necessary. An economic union like the EU could serve as a first step to making a union like the USA. A lack of fiscal integration is really what leads to larger countries promoting their interests over smaller or poorer ones. (Monetary policy in the Eurozone will always benefit germany and france rather than Spain Portugal Greece or Italy). Each slavic lesser state could keep their own cultural heritage, administrate themselves to a certain extent etc.
@@adams.2222 O Rusku tam nepadlo ani slovo :D
A union of states is called a Federation my friend. That would still impose a Federal government over the individual states, such as the United States of America.
I agree with most of your observations, but nationalism is on the rise in the West and I doubt the West Europeans will still see themselves as united as they do now or even a decade ago. I wish we are united as modern, metropolitan people, even if it means giving away parts of our identity WILLINGLY. But our governments are horrible at separating church and state, so a fair and just government would never happen under current Slavic culture. (See Croatia and Serbia for more info lol)
Unwillingly would be Bulgaria attempting to erase my Macedonian identity; and that would most certanly happen if such a Union exists, or will have to be dealt with before it happens. That’s why an Economic confederation is the only possible solution in our life times.
I agree with you. Hello from Czech Republic.
@@heyons2808 I hate nationalism, it keeps us divided and weak and it destroyed Yugoslavia.
I actualy want a stronger thing like the EU that can compete with big powers.
Otherwise we are prey to the USA, Russia and China.
Hello Poland here. Are you happy Slavic brothas? Summer's comin'!
I think a union of Slavic nations sounds practical if it were to take the form of a loose knit confederation where each nation could choose its own level of involvement. I mean no offense when I say Russia has a history of empire, and I really don't want distinct nations to become little Russias. I want nations to determine their own courses while being able to come to peaceful resolutions of conflicts.
I agree....loose knit confederation is the only way to go. All states should be equally represented regardless of size, papulation or GDP. All states should agree to accept and respect current borders. Once we achieve this level, we can talk about language, free trade, currency and any other important issues.
@@katarinaristich5290
I don't know about you but I firmly oppose the at the moment Croatian state which represents what was enlarged by the communists to encompass many of the territories it never encompassed in history.
Especially not since they as a nation are still to be punished for the war crimes that their nation have committed during WW1, WW2 and during their aggression of the Republic of Serbian Krajina in 1995 when they expelled all of the 600.000 Serbs who lived there.
There's just too many axes to grind, like the person posting here about his/her beef with Croatia and how it needs to be "punished". There's what's holding it up. Don't you think the non-Slavic neighbors are going to exploit this to squash it? A pan-Slavia is definitely not in their interests. Also, since the total makeup of the Slavic peoples is over half Russian, doesn't it seem obvious that "one banner" path would soon lead to Russia dominating everyone else?
how about a Slavic confederation similar to Switzerland( For example: Every Swiss canton has the right to choose it's own official language)
Germans, French and Italians are (almost) completely separate ethnicities while Slavs are one.
@@user-wc5dz6mj9n eeeh not really. I mean the pan slavic mentality and awareness is magnitudes greather than even the pan nordic identety but there are deffinetly differences between slavic nations
@@PeoplecallmeLucifer There are only separate tribal and national identities. If you are talking about cultural differences then that's misunderstanding of culture as culture is mostly local and in some cases short lived.
@@user-wc5dz6mj9n Culture changes, true but it's continuous, you can follow it's development. and pretending there is no differences is basically just putting ducttape over a continental rift
There are differences in mentality and the way people think from region to region let alone nation to nation and if those aren't addressed properly ... well we had the 90-es
@@PeoplecallmeLucifer By mentality, do you mean "these people hate these people" and stuff like that? By using propaganda, it could be easily countered if needed. It is not hard as it seems as masses are just more individuals. Whether we use
propaganda on current generations or not, eventually separatism will die out. Yugoslavia collapsed due to political freedom and legal secession, not because "people hated each other", common people have little to no influence what happens in the politics especially in more authoritarian regimes.
Slavic Union - last remaining whites in 100 years.
@devh Ivtk The video is removed. That is what it says at least. Can you just say what it is about in short words?
No, germanic ppl will be the last whites
@@adams.2222 naw fam, look at Germany and Sweden now. Disgusting mess
Adam Š. stfu you nazi
Race is irrelevant.
I'm for Neo-Slavism... Confederative Slavic Union of independent Slavic countries under the one name - Slavia... Confederacy of independent Slavic countries Slavia... ❤❤❤
Может Великославия?)
Bracia ❤
TomBox Sláva Rodu Bratři a Sestry !
Navecno
Neo-Slavism all the way!
Establishing a Pan-Slavian union empire is a glorious dream to make...hope it will come true in future...
I'll do my best mr.cho
Причины почему славянский союз не может существовать:
1. Многие славянские народы просто ненавидят друг друга, и это не просто так, а за конкретные вещи. Балканцы ненавидят друг друга. Поляки ненавидят русских не смотря на то что нам они безразличны, это просто ненависть за то что они проиграли нам когда-то давно.
2. На чьи плечи ляжет экономическое бремя существование этого союза? Гадать не приходится, конечно же снова русским как и при СССР придётся всех кормить, а когда у нас настанут тяжёлые времена, эти братья пошлют нас. Вспомните как это было со странами Варшавского договора или когда разваливался СССР. Дело тут не в этносе, религии или даже идеологии, дело в том что мы переживали тяжёлый экономический кризис. Конечно же обеспечивать этот союз будет прежде всего русская промышленность, огромная ресурсная база России.
3. Географически славянские страны разделены друг от друга такими странами как Румыния и Венгрия, которые не являются славянскими, и вопрос их присоединения это вопрос военной экспансии и геноцида. Считаете ли вы такие действия правомерными? Вопрос который каждый должен ответить для себя сам. Но факт в том что за геополитические интересы славянского союза придётся проливать кровь...
4. А чьи вооружённые силы будут защищать славянский союз? Кто будет воевать за него? Очевидно что опять это будут русские, ибо у русских самая большая армия, у нас самое лучшее оружие ещё с советских времён и мы обладаем самым большим в мире ядерным арсеналом.
5. Что же мы получаем взамен? Большинство славян, как мы видим, не желают учить русский язык не смотря на то что из всех славянских он самый популярный и русских больше половины среди всех славян. Я же не хочу чтобы наш язык как-то адаптировался меняя свой алфавит, и уж тем более я не хочу учить какой-то новый выдуманный славянский язык ещё и в ущерб своему родному языку. То есть мы не получим ничего при полной самоотдаче.
6. У славянских стран разные геополитические интересы. Россия стремится вернуть себе статус сверхдержавы, ей чужды демократические институты, и у нас традиционно авторитарная власть. Не будет Путина, будет другой амбициозный лидер, так было всегда в нашей истории, а когда получалось иначе, наша страна приходила в упадок. Другим славянам это вряд ли придётся по душе. Пример Украины очень показателен.
7. Проблема самоопределения. Кем же себя считать? Две идентичности не могут существовать в одном человеке. Ты либо славянин, либо кто-то ещё. Сейчас принадлежность к славянству ничего не значит кроме языковой общности, но в таком союзе предполагается её абсолютное значение. Кто мы прежде всего? Русские, поляки, чехи, болгары, сербы, хорваты и прочие, либо же мы все славяне? Но что делает нас едиными кроме языковой семьи? Имеет ли смысл объединяться людям без всяких на то оснований лишь на основе общего языка-предка? Я очень сомневаюсь что различные националисты одобрят сближение с Россией потому что это угрожает локальным идентичностям, которые без государственной защиты будут просто размыты и забыты. Кто-то предлагает создать некую новую славянскую общность, но лично я не стану отказываться отказываться от своей русскости из-за какой-то новой непонятной идентичности. Мои предки были русскими и мне нравятся русские традиции.
8. У нас разные культуры и разные религии. Вряд ли здесь необходимо что-то прояснять, но мы отличаемся друг от друга. Западные славяне тяготеют к западным европейцам, южные славяне достаточно самобытны, мы точно так же очень самобытны никогда не будем понятны европейцам. И я понимаю что русские (школьники) будут отрицать эти различия либо не понимая реальной разницы, либо стараясь её игнорировать, но тем не менее она есть.
И да, конечно меня прежде всего волнуют интересы России и интересы русского народа, так как я сам являюсь русским. Я не вижу объективных причин для русских вступать в такой союз кроме какой-то сентиментальной романтической трогательной болтовни о славянском братстве. Это будет полностью в ущерб нам.
Круто, только ГДР осталась верна СССР и, если посмотреть детально, это мы их продали, шаг за шагом.
конечно, лучше продолжать кормить кавказ и среднюю азию и бояться что-то вякнуть против банды пыни
You got the fact that czechs and slovaks were against Russia wrong, most known leaders of slavism were writing in their books about Russia as the big mother bear of all Slavs. Mistakes happen, but just to make it clear.
Yeah? What about Serbia? And what about the Czech republic? The czech president makes the relations much better than the other politicians. I will tell you one thing. Russia maybe isnt too friendly with other slavic countries right now, but thats because the slavic country arent friendly with Russia (many are in EU and NATO). Really, you can say negative stuff all the time but you end up being the asshole because you obviously dont feel the need to somehow help, like by getting into politics.
I may not like it but thats why Im doing what I can and in the future I will try to get into politics. Things can be changed in any way, always. You know, you dont help by pointing out which countries arent friends with Russia and not saying what could be done, how, etc.
Blaz Blaz No, I believe that friendship is key, but having all slavs united is a duty. Which means, if wed be able to unite and some countries would want to leave, we wont let them go because thats like giving out pieces of your country. I agree with you on this, I just think that people can also have respect for you if you help each other
Blaz Blaz Slovakia, you mean? Slovenes hate Russia.
Сергей Аставфев I'm not sure if you meant Slovakia or Slovenia. Because you wrote Slovakia but then Slovenes. If you meant Slovakia, now we love Russia. In the past few years ago, we hated Russia because of communism. But Slovakia is getting very pro-Russian now. The politicians and mainstream media are anti-Russian, but people in slovakia like Russia.
Pozdrav z Česka !
Я българин українець и русский !
Славяните се обединяват!
Слов'яни об'єднуйтесь!
Славяне объединяйтесь!
Только вот украинцы уже пропали.
@@user-nj3ru3ui7b пропали русские гондоны , а украинцы будут жить вечно
@@geangr4883 Украинцы пропали в смысле морали и духовности. Ценности, перешедшие к ним от предков, они облили грязью.
@@user-nj3ru3ui7b да что ты !!! МЫ РАЗРУШАЕМ СВОЮ СТРАНУ , УБИВАЕМ ЖЕНЩИН ,ДЕТЕЙ ,СТАРИКОВ, ПИДОРАСЫ ВЫ ГРЕБАННЫЕ !!! НОГИ ЧТОБЫ ВАШЕЙ ПРОКЛЯТОЙ НА МОЕЙ ЗЕМЛЕ НЕ БЫЛО !!!!!
@@geangr4883 ты же сам написал, что русский?
I am so glad i found your channel, interesting you say the smaller countries traditions would end.. when it is already happening sadly. So many move away and their children lose our ways. Most don't even know their native tongue.
The third unification method is with the Soviet/Russian Federation model. All of the Republics and ethnic minorities were and are heavily supported in their cultural, religional, traditional and lingual aspects, without opression or domination of any of the groups, including Russians themselves. There are 24 republics in Russian Federation and there were 15 republics in USSR, one of which was federative. Each republic have their own authonomous governing system, official languages and even culturaly influenced school systems. Off-course there is federal governing system, which makes the main decidions and there is Russian as main official language (since Russians consist 77% of Russia and 51% of Soviet Union). Thus it is fully possible to preserve the languages and cultures inside the Slavic Union with Russia making the main federal and foreign policy decidions. The Germanification or Italisation, however doesn't fit with the Slavic mentality, same as it didn't fit with USSR and Russia, where many groups are not even slavic (Ugro-Fins, Mongols, Tartars, Germans, Caucasians).
I agree with this. But the working language of a "Velikoslavia" should be Medužslovjansky, since it is a Pan-Slavic language that requires little knowledge for Slavs to understand. It should also have Cyrillic and Latin as equal scripts.
You could set them up under the original intention of the United States in which each state has its own government and elections with a Federal Government that only regulates interstate commerce, defense and coining money.
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I’m glad I found this, such a great idea
Well, I am a Slavic nationalist and I love all my Slavic brothers, but if I were a big politician, I would make a Slavic Federation and let each federal state should it had its own culture, its own language and its own traditions. That's how it could go right?
The best arrangement.
jawol. Probably much like starship troopers, but with Winged hussars and Russian chicks
Did you seriously put hey slaveni in the background....damn that's actually really fitting XD
we should make a Union like EU
as a first step to making a union like the US. A lack of fiscal integration is really what leads to larger countries promoting their interests over smaller or poorer ones. (Monetary policy in the Eurozone will always benefit germany and france rather than Spain Portugal Greece or Italy)
Slavic union, agreed.
В ближайшем будущем "Славянский союз" не возможен. Это идея-утопия, пока каждая из страна не перестанет искать различия и предъявлять друг другу претензии. Но если говорить гипотетически, если бы "Славянский союз" существовал,то это был бы мощнейший геополитический альянс
Да точно.
Но сега народите се позрели со млада политичка структура има можности.
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Дали е ова руски јазик?
Разбирам потполно ☺️👍❤️
@@MacedonianGrace
Да този език е руски.Лингвистите от Руската Академия на Науките го определят като развитие на диалект на старобългарския език. Защо мислиш, че народите днес са по-зрели? А от младата политическа структура в РС Македония има само един Любчо Георгиевски дето е нормален и не е слепец. Ама виж как всичките дебили в държавата ви са скочили срещу него! Ако проумеете , че този човек е не само исторически , но и политически прав и приемете неговите съвети ще решите много от проблемите си. И как да стане обединение на славяните когато Сърбия води антибългарска политика а вашата държава е създадена на антибългаризма като идеологическа основа? Как да стане обединение след като Украйна се изгражда като държава/ по-скоро се разпада/ на антируска основа? Как да стане обединение при положение, че веднага след падането на Българското царство /славянската империя/под турска власт поляците са в сблъсък с русите ,още от началото на 15 век, по въпроса: Кой да води бащината дружина? Тоест да наследи правата на Славянска империя произтичащи от Средновековна България. Реално от решението на поляците зависи до голяма степен бъдещето на Европа , че и на християнския свят! Не знам дали самите те го разбират. Това са фактите, независимо дали ги осъзнаваш и дали на мен или на теб тези факти ни харесват или не! Хайде със здраве!
Yes, this language is Russian. Linguists from the Russian Academy of Sciences define it as the development of a dialect of the Old Bulgarian language. Why do you think nations are more mature today? And of the young political structure in RS Macedonia, there is only one Lyubcho Georgievski who is normal and not blind. But look how all the morons in your country have jumped against him! If you understand that this person is not only historically but also politically right and accept his advice, you will solve many of your problems. And how to unite the Slavs when Serbia pursues an anti-Bulgarian politic and your country was created on anti-Bulgarianism as an ideological basis? How to become a union after Ukraine is built as a state / rather disintegrates / on an anti-Russian basis? How to become a union given that immediately after the fall of the Bulgarian Empire / Slavic Empire / under Turkish rule, the Poles were in conflict with the Russians, since the beginning of the 15th century, on the question: Who will lead the father's company? That is, to inherit the rights of the Slavic Empire deriving from Medieval Bulgaria. In reality, the future of Europe and of the Christian world largely depends on the decision of the Poles! I don't know if they understand it themselves. These are the facts, whether you realize them and whether we or you like these facts or not! Come with health!
Ас сум си Македонец Абе брат не ме убедувај кој сум јас , убедувај се тебе.
Него дај викни ме на ракиичка нешто така да бидеме браќа .
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@@MacedonianGrace Определяй се както искаш.Това е твой проблем и твое право.Ако искаш и занзибарец може да се пишеш на преброяването. Аз не те убеждавам в нищо. Само ти посочих защо днес е невъзможно обединяване на славяните. А това дето ти го писах за Любчо Георгиевски е редно да си го осмислите защото вие имате проблем. А Георгиевски ви предлага решение.Ние в България проблем с миналото нямаме. Ти имаш интересен начин на мислене. Казваш: "Него дај викни ме на ракиичка нешто така да бидеме браќа ." Преди три поколения бяхме един народ.Сега сме братя. След три поколения ще сме братовчеди и след още три поколения и врагове може да сме ,за радост на братята сърби, дето ви направиха братя македонци. Разбираш ли в каква посока ви водят някой ваши политици? А виж това за ракията може и да не го знаеш, но има един ген , който отговаря за разграждането на алкохола. При народите, които пият ракия повече от 2000 години този ген го има и това им позволява да не се напиват. Народите дето го нямат този ген се напиват бързо и от само една чаша ракия.Хайде наздраве!
@@nikolaistoyanov1720
Не е точно брат ако сме биле народ Булгарија немаше да врши геноцид над Македонски села.
Ако имам Србски или бугарски корени зашто да не .
Ај дојди ке збориш со мајка ми и татко ми и да видеш дали се тие brainwashed.
Tatko ми се сеќава на војните тој беше дете.
Ќе правиме разговор.
Interesting topic. Usually people say it can´t work because blah blah blah reason, this nation hate that etc. BUT we have Pangermanism and that is Germany example and even more, we have Pan anglo saxism or english ism in form of british commonwealth.
Slavic people are little different, we usually prefer more freedom but some form of cooperation is not only possible but it is even needed.
That means Neoslavism or some sort of cooperation based on free will of each nation is possible.
Pepa Novák commonwealth is not about pan Anglo Saxonism, lol.
The Commonwealth or the British Commonwealth is an association of the former British colonies. The British used to have a big empire(Where the sun never sets) and so there are 53 commonwealth members. It's a bit like UN.
I'm from a Commonwealth country, Bangladesh. 90% of our laws, governmental and judiciary system are picked from old British common law. We didn't work hard to make our own unique system. So does in many other former British colonies.
One thing more common between us is we all know & learn English. We get to have trade & development among former British colonies and that's easy. The best though is the Commonwealth Games ♥
Only 15 countries, together known as the Commonwealth Realm recognize the British Monarch as their head of state. And others we just recognize the British Queen as the head & supreme leader of the commonwealth.
There are black people, Asian people, Muslims all in the commonwealth countries.
It is group of states who cooperate between each other and it is based as you said on english system of law and language. Therefore it definitely is some sort of Pan anglo saxism and if it is not the classic definition of this word than I would say it is cultural Pan anglo saxism because it is based on english system although not all of them are anglo saxons.
....but this idea is absolutly amazing :-))!
Привет из России! ( Hello from Russia!) Мои славянские братья! ( My Slavic brothers!) Мне 17.( to me 17)
Glory of the Slavic Empire!
Спасибо за объяснение брат🇷🇺🇸🇮💪
Love that Yugoslavian Anthem in the background or Polish 🤔😀😁. Well who cares, slava slavenima!
its actually a Polish anthem the Yugoslavs borrowed it
No problem.☮️❤️🤝✊⚔️🙏. Respect and support one another. Slawa Brothers.
On 1 :01 you can see picture of famous russian painter, Vereschagin. It shows the battlefield and bodies of dead soldiers. This painting was dedicated to his younger brother, who died during siege of Plevna in 1877. Vereschagin was wounded himself, but even suffering from pain was looking for his brothers corps. He never succeeded and it was he's personal tragedy that he left his brothers bodie decompose somewhere in mud.
He's born in the same city as me, Cherepovets. We have a library and a street named after him, everyone is proud of Vereschagin.
Also, Cherepovets was the home town for colonel Kutepov, the only military officer who attempted to resist the February "revolution", as well as I.N. Voskresensky who was responsible for Petropavlovsk battleship... at which Vereschagin met his death.
lepo povedano, stari
Another idea, which is very similar to neoslavism is euroslavism. This idea foresees the unification of all Slavs with preserving their identity in the union with other groups populating Europe.
And what about the small Slavic peoples without their own state, which sometimes do not have autonomy within the states, and how to solve the problem of separatism of artificial Slavic peoples, which are geopolitical projects of other states, and most importantly how to overcome historical contradictions?
We are 360 million Slavs, our population competes with powers such as the United States or Indonesia. Our country would be the largest in the world, with the best beaches in the Mediterranean and the best mountains in Siberia. We are people with the same genetics, with such similar languages, our culture, history, food ... also similar and still we remain divided. Only a union would give us a place in the world powers. Much love from a polish panslavist 💪
Top thinking my friend !!! We need more people like you !!!
One way to deal with the problem of bigger, more powerful nations gaining too much power and influence would be a confederacy or confederate style union of largely sovereign states. Another would be to create a congress and senate where one is voted on by all the people for politicians from anywhere in the country and the other is made up of a fixed number of representatives from every state. To ensure no state has too much power every state would have the same number of representatives.
Our own variation on the American model(arguably the best currently available model for a democracy) would be a perfect solution to our problems - be they in the form of South Slavic unification or the unification of all the Slavs.
Likewise, over time this would ensure that rather than one, single culture dominate entirely that there is mutual assimilation and elements and attributes of every culture are carried on into an entirely new cultural and national identity(again, see the America).
I fully agree with you at the end. "The bigger will always aim to overpower the smaller." The example of that is in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. It would be amazing if it was a federation, we wouldnt have the problems we have with nationalism today and everyone would be happy, but because the serbs were almost the half of the population they wanted centeralisation. A Slavist nation wouldnt work if it wasnt a federation or even a confederation.
E i da brate nisam znao da si iz Slovenije pozz iz ZG-a :)
Q1: who do you think is the main enemy of united slavism?
Q2: who do you think is the main external ally/allies?
I think I have it clear, but I'd like to hear your opinions, guys.
NATO and the EU are both enemies, NATO is a bigger threat to us while EU tends to mix all cultures together. Greatest ally would be Russia.
Simeon wouldn't Russia be a part of the union? I meant allies outside it (I will edit it now😊) btw, are you Bulgarian?
Rayhunter Oh, okay. Probably the former Soviet Union states would be the greatest ally then, because they also have many slavs over there. Anyways no, im from the country of Slovakia directly oppressed by both EU and NATO spreading shit against Russia :D. Why did you think Im Bulgarian, by the way?
Rayhunter Biggest enemy is the NATO, EU and Turkey! Biggest allies are, I think, Syria, Iran, DPRK, Kazakhstan, China etc.
Simeon because of thy name (Simeon), it's really common here in Bulgaria. so I decided to have a shot at it😂. here Rusophobia is all over the government, mainstream media, etc, but the majority of people are pro-Russia (according to me, I don't have a proof or facts). I don't know for how long because the propaganda is too strong and never-ending.
I think both are great options however like you said fighting will always happen to some degree as there will always be someone over the others. But thats life. I personally think that Ukrainian, Belarusian, Moldovan, Russian and Georgian Kozaks should unite create an independent kingdom and that nation should be the start of the slavic empire.
Germany was united by the strongest, as did other countries. I would like a union that will make us closer and closer to each other. If we don't get closer and more similar we can never have an united front against our enemies or even have different opinions and in the end brake our union apart... Yugoslavia was a fair attempt at unity but it ended badly cause it didn't have enough unity under the pressure of new geopolitical situation, the end of the Cold war. Our enemy is strong and it doesn't want us to unite. The closest we got to unification was USSR, Eastern block and Yugoslavia. Those are all gone. And USSR was the second largest economy in the world...
Im pessimistic about any union because there are many nations that hate eachother and to repair that will take decades. As a Slav I will continue to support Russia, cause Russia is currently the only truly independent Slavic state, and ofc it is the biggest and strongest. I would like a union where we can be different but still maintain a strong union, but I'm afraid that will be hard to happen cause we ain't prepared to sacrifice for each other. Would people unite with Russia today and get sanctions from the West? Would you be fine with that?
Who is the enemy of the Slavs ?
@@user-ro9xs2bq5d Currently, the most formidable is the west (mostly UK, USA and Germany). And of course Slavs/we ourselves. Russians need to stop drinking and endangering their health in other ways. We should stop being nihilists/depressed and look to better ourselves, our business, our countries and the world (I would say we should be more progressive, but not like making up genders and so on, but in tech and economy...).
@@freee8838 I totally agree with you.
@@freee8838 But, the main problem of Russia is not alcoholism, the main problem is the politicians traitors and oligarchs (also in My country Ukraine) in Russia and Ukraine there are a lot of smart talented people, but they are not allowed to realize themselves, and they go to work in the countries of the enemies that you listed.
@@user-ro9xs2bq5d society is a collective of individuals; all social problems as well as successes start on the personal/familial level and end up reflecting on the society at large. Always from the bottom to the top.
I think best option would be equivalent of European union or visegrad 4 with neoslavic idea
Evo, himna slovenske vojske v ozadju 🇸🇮 Maš res dobre posnetke, tak naprej! Iz kod pa si bolj natančno?
Pozdravi iz Savinjske
Perhaps greater cultural and sporting interaction is a good start. There are the Commonwealth Games, the Pan American Games, Asian Games and the African Games, why not the Slavic Games. Then there are economic and trade treaties that could be arranged to promote market interaction outside existing Blocs, a Slavic Trade Union. Cultural exchange could include "Slavic Studies - History, Culture, Language and Literature" in schools with far more cross national interaction and student exchange where diversity is explored and celebrated. I often get the feeling that these ideas would be viewed as "nationalist" or "racist" in some spheres but no one seems to have an issue with the same thing happening in former European colonies, in fact in my country the Government spends hundreds of millions on programs to resurrect and invigorate indigenous culture.
Further to above. Google Slavs or Slavic. The west perceive Slavs as a sort of joke. Stereotypical Slavs are drunken idiots doing stupid things. Guns and fighting or thuggery is a common theme. You don't see the rich culture and history. Look at Pewdiepies recent videos as an example. If this sort of parody was directed to Turks, Africans or Arabs there would be widespread indignation and outrage.
Even Slavs deny their identity in shame of their heritage. This Slavophobia needs to change and Slavic Affairs is helping change it.
I agree 100% with Tommy Slavic. Because what happen since 1989. Magadan Oblast lost almost 80% of population from 500 000 to current 150 000 and Magadan city from 150 000 to 90 000. There is so much gold,but because of of isolation no railway goes there, it is planed from Yakutsk City to Magadan city, and should be completed by 2035. But that is long away. It need to be speed -up. Perhaps Magadan oblast should be 1st to start some common purpose. Repopulate it with Slavic people, voluntary. It is a very beautifull place, landscape is similar to Slovenia and Slovakia. There can be sheep farming, to start agriculture, and meat processing, textile industries, milk production and cheese production. Apart from mining for gold and other minerals. Catching seafood and make seeafood production. Perhaps have even aquaculture. Railway line should be extended all the way via Magadan oblast to Markovo in Chukotka oblast, for start. Hold in Magadan City every four years in July Slavic sport games and in winter Slavic Winter Games. Also if anyone is interesting in architecture Magadan City has what is called art-deco. This is a very popular in New Zealand, in city of Napier, where regulary hold art deco festival. Lets have that also. Make neo-slavism practical by revigorating Magadan oblast. I know history of Gulags is bad. And because of it many bastards on you tube are held bend to destroy and depopulate Magadan Oblast by all the negativity they can find!!! But also movement to the west by Oregon trail, had many negatives, many people were murdered and so, perhaps more people died on the road to the west, then people died in Gulags. Yet nobody make so many negative comments about Oregon, or Washington state, or Montana, though weather there is shit and raining there all the time. Yet they have also a horrible problem with homelessness across USA, so they should stop point the fingers. Let's unite in neo-slavic fashion and repopulate and make Magan oblast prosperous and modern.
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As is so often in life what is needed is balance between ideals, Pan Slavisim and Neo Slavisim would have to be carefully balanced enough that the traditions of the smaller nations gets absorbed into the greater peoples and allow for the merging of all the traditions into a single culture over time unfortunately things such as this rarely happen on such a large scale and even if it was to happen certain traditions will always stay as part of a specific region which however beautiful is always a point of conflict.
As for the Politics in the world of today it will be a needle pinned to a matchstick in a pile of half rusted bombs, Admittedly the current age of "Democratic freedom" appears to be coming to an end which would have a massive effect on trying to unite the Slavic people as more people are seeing how Democracy is a tool and like any tool it can be used for good or evil and it's becoming more apparent in nations with smaller regions or populations that once belong to a neighboring country (I won't say any examples because I don't want distractions from the topic we all know these places let's leave it at that) where democracy is being abused to make one party more powerful then another which however smaller deserves to still be treated with respect.
What does this mean for us all? well personally I believe in the Russian ideal that is Self determination of a peoples is more important then democracy and if self determination is applied to all slavic nations and peoples while we may have our differences and we may fight we are a family and we all agree that we are slavs and with an ideal of self determination believe that the slavic people could be united. (except for one or maybe two nations that as a man of Imperial German heritage believe are sick creations of Himmler [who along side Hitler destroyed Prussian/Germanic tradition, culture, and respect.] many Slavic people believe they are Germanic and it saddens me to see them fight their own people using the Germanic peoples (my people) and the sick Nazi conquest as their excuse.)
How ever democracy is still an important tool which should be used with care to avoid corruption like any other tool for a more physical example you don't screw in a nail, or hammer in a screw perhaps you can sort of do it but you will damage both the tool and what the tool is applied to, the same applies to democracy, autocracy, monarchy, all of these things are tools to maintain order and unity over a large area and all have had their successes and failures those who study history will be able to think of a few.
hm normally I write only small comments but this topic seems to be rather important and somewhat dangerous to speak about.
I said it before and will again. I would rly like to see us all united. Alas, some things would have to be dealt with first. Also, we would have to/should ditch Christianity and other religions and go back to Rodnoverje. Slava bogovima, pomen precima! Cheerz!
Background music is Yugoslav anthem or polish anthem?
Same shit different speed
@@hanz2904 xddd
The only way that there could be any kind of Slavic Union is if there was a special language developed, similar to Esperanto... this "Slavic" or "common Slavic" language would have a limited number of words, maybe between 5-10,000 which would be more than enough to accommodate everyday conversations, exchange of ideas, facilitate commerce and trade, etc... If this "Common Slavic" language was successful, it could later on be developed further and have additional words added to allow for more complex uses for the language like Prose and Literature...
But, based on the fact that there is Old Church Slavonic which is used by the Russian Orthodox Church and other Orthodox Churches in Slavic countries, we, Slavic people, may already poses the BASICS to complete such a project as a Slavic Union...
Also, in order to prevent any LARGE country from having too much influence simply because of POPULATION, there could be different Councils for different purposes and each SPECIALIZED council would have their own REPRESENTATIVE system... there should also be somekind of Supreme Council where there would be only 1 representative from each country, big or small, and would have only 1 vote... So Russia with population of 150 mil would have 1 vote and so would Serbia with 9-10 million people... It may look unfair, but if the SUPREME COUNCIL only deals with problems of HIGHEST SERIOUSNESS, then it would be fine... If there is a council on Agricultural policy, then either the politics would have to take a back seat to scientific and fact based reasoning OR the number of votes would be adjusted slightly... NOT REALLY SURE... but simply speaking from a logical perspective, in terms of agriculture, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and Poland would have the advantage of growing grains and other food which are cold weather tolerable and take up large amount of land... whereas countries and regions with more WARM climate should focus more on fruits and other produce like tomatoes and peppers which grow well in warmer climates... In that way it would be more optimal... There would have to be some kind of Sub Committee which would control and prevent any kind of Speculation and Manipulation by countries and hording of food... For example Russia with its huge amount of land can produce enough grains like Rye, Wheat, Rice, etc to feed itself and all of the Slavic countries combined... no problem there... BUT a country like Serbia or Bulgaria would likely not be able to grow enough tomatoes and fruits to feed themselves AND ALSO other Slavic Countries like Russia... you see the issue??? some countries are simply more powerful because of their size than others... so because of that FACT there would have to be somekind of SCIENTIFIC basis for figuring out which country should focus on what... Also, certain kinds of manufacturing is better done closer to where the materials are... stuff like HEAVY METALLURGY... for example, it makes no sense to say mine Iron is Siberia and then transport it to Croatia to produce some stuff that is later shipped back to Russia... it would logistically idiotic... the fact of the matter is that many countries have access to IRON, BUT it may be better to MINE for IRON in SIberia instead of using some iron rich land in Croatia... even though Croatia has IRON... it would be better for Croatia to grow Tomatoes or whatever and receive IRON from Russia at a discount because Croatia willingly decided to grow fruits for the benefit of Russia... or whatever... the point im trying to make is that there needs to be a more holistic and symbiotic approach to economic relations between Slavic countries...
Hello guys, I'm from Germany and it seems I have slavic ancestors. My family name is Radegast (the Wendish name of Svarožić).
Does anyone of you know if there is a possible connection that proofs my speculation?
My second question: What about Sorbs/Wends in a possible future Slavic union?
Best wishes from Germany!
Marcel R. I'm not sure about your speculation my friend, but not only the Sorbs should join the union I think all Europeans should unite
justinian The Great I'd prefer a possible enlarged European Union ---> Eurasian Union ;-)
It is important to understand who wants what from this Union.The largest Slavic countries such as Russia and Poland, it will bring more problems than good, and small countries on the contrary will be more useful, but judging by what fate befell Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia, it will be very difficult to do
Jak narazie to Rosja przynosi same nieszczescia a Polska pomaga
@@kingajonas5219 Польше вообще не лезь бы в этот семейный спор. А то может так случится что прилетить с обоих сторон. Бедеровцы такие бендеровцы.
Nice
Well it might be cool, but you know nowadays most of russians are so westernised, and people almost forgot their roots, our ideology can be an internet union only) Definitely we can create some gathering offline by making festivals and other things to rebirth our cultures and make it more popular and interesting)
russia and china are the only ones who stand against west globalization
Россия никогда не растворяла в себе другие народы она сохраняла и развивала их культуру, не бойтесь России она всегда рада помочь своему брату
Только вот это развитие ей дорого обошлось.
@Arthur Shangareev А причём тут язык,если они хотели они бы разговаривали как это делают братья наши меньшие 🇬🇪🇦🇲🇲🇩🇰🇿
Така е брате
*белорусы и украинцы*: 👀👀👀👀👀👀
@@geronimo6351 *белорусы и украинцы - это часть русского народа*
Tito wasnt croatian. He was born in a place which was located close to the slovenian-croatian border and he did call himself as Yugoslavian when someone asked about his nationality.
For now we should be an independent national country's with some council which will decide about the way how we should deal with the international politic.
The power of the influence will be big and great advantage for all Slavic country. So not V4 but mayby V14.
Greetings from Poland.
Where are you from, I'm from Maribor, if you are realy slovenian.
You are literally just reading this off of Wikipedia verbatim. I looked up the pan slavism page.
I want to state. First, I'm not Slavic; I'm dominantly German and Scottish/Irish (or Celtic, I suppose).
I think, however, under the right circumstance a pan-Slavic union is possible under the right circumstances.
For instance, here in the united states, we have a lot of Slavic communities; I live right next to one, and I've, in return have, been fascinated and enthralled by the cultures and languages. I've learned Russian and a little bit of Ukrainian, but since they're pretty similar, I can just barely get passed that barrier. I'm also learning Polish and a little bit of Croatian so I can have another language in the south.
How did I learn and meet all of these people? Because it's in an enclave, and in the brutal reality of life, when shit hits the fan you and need to take sides. You look at your bloodline and bring it under the banner. It happened to these people, and they came together because they knew Russian, but notably because of their backgrounds in Central-to-Eastern Europe.
A Pan-Slavic Union at a large scale is entirely possible, but it needs to happen in swift and harsh circumstances. Say, a nuclear war or a wide-scale conflict that has nothing to do with Slavs themselves, because they'd either swallow they're prides and build bridges over these canyons of bad history, or they and their families die.
You live in US, right?
Then you don't understand anything.
Panslavic union wouldn't work because people of different Slavic countries don't really want it or at least wouldn't be able to live with each other.
Russia would try to dominate us. It always tries and it never changes. And my people did bleed for independence way too much and suffered way too much for my country to be a Russian dog.
It's more possible that the whole Europe unites into a one federal state that for only Slavic countries into one state. And I honestly think it's a bad idea as our differences make us beautiful and we should all be free to rule us as we want.
It's time to think of uniting the whole of Humanity. I am a Pole living abroad. New Paradime began.
LONG LIVE SLOVENIA🇸🇮🇸🇮🇸🇮
And Croatia!
is that Yugoslavian anthem in backround :3
1st i meant 😄😄
Yep :D. That song was made in my country - Slovakia :)
Please learn Interslavic language (its a thing). It needs to be popularized and have content
Learn Serbian/interslavic
This sound similar to hispanism, some want a unification not under a spanish empire 2.0 but a block of hispanic countries that stay together agains aggresive cultures but specially anglo countries
Even after 30 years of Croatia being united the various regions of our nation still hold to be very different, on a even smaller scale there's rivalries between towns and counties. A Pan-slavic identity would most likely happen, but it would be reminiscent of the United States. It would be impossible to create a homogenous ethnicity over such a large area and even if you could, what came prior would still live on through much of regional cultures which would comprise of a future panslavic identity.
@Drazenko Instead of Serbo- Croatian the language can be simply called _Novo- Štokavski_ , which is an actual linguistic term.
Friend, that sounds nice. But I'm afraid such feelings of unity could only arise if we all were atheists or at least agnostics. Religion had a strong uniting factor throughout history, but in modern day Bosnia its influence is clearly dividing.
In Jugoslavia the project of creating a new Jugoslav identity clearly failed. There was no unifying language (look at the situation of Slovenes and Macedonians), and back then very few considered themselves as Catholic Jugoslavs, Orthodox Jugoslavs or Muslim Jugoslavs. The old national identities were always present.
I went to school that was named after Bartol Kašić.
Slavic women are beautiful and slavic men are still men. Slava!
I think that a more practical idea would be to have 3 main pan Slav states. Zapadoslavia, Yugoslavia and Iztokoslavia
Absolutely not
Guys check the ideas of slavic movements. They say what exactly the democracy was like. Nowadays it may be similar to swiss. That s how it was . regions were i dependant.. Or like the very first idea of USA which was later distorted
Unfortunately, there are too many "artificial conflicts" ... Anglo-Saxon geopolitics or Chinese geopolitics will never allow us to unite into a federation or confederation. (
If united, the empire will be strong. No more foreign interventions...
Yes we unite culturally, and politically. But must have totally mutual respect and cooperation with each other. No forced alligence. With understanding that together we are one and strong individually we are bear bait of the west.☮️❤️🤝✊⚔️🙏
I just want people to stop talking Albanian to me when I tell them that I am a Macedonian
A Macedonian from the cournty
Former republic of YugoSLAVia north Macedonian
I have nothing against Albanians but its just so annoying because I am exreamly Slav when looking at my family tree and stuff
Ти се определяш като македонец. Това е добре.Имаш това право и никой не ти го отрича това. Казваш че си знаеш родословието и то е славянско.А като си знаеш родословието тези твои предци преди 1944 година като македонци ли се определяха? Ако си достатъчно интелигентен ще разбереш, че въпросът е реторичен! А на българите от Македония никой по света не им говори на албански!
Slavic language. Russian, Serbian, Polish, Slovenian, Bulgarian accent. Official language should be taught in schools. Accents are used in private life. Problems solved.
For anyone wondering, that would work. Rome used it, Byzantium used it, so why shouldn't we?
At 1:55 this is not Križanić but a certain Jewish rabbi.
Well, serbocroatian didn't stop slovene and macedonian, altho it was de facto language of Yugoslavia, Slovene and Macedonian were still in use, as well as local dialects of serbocroatian.
Also, the closest thing to slavic unification was Warsaw pact (with Hungarians and Romanians as honorary slavs) with notable exeption of Yugoslavia...
However, I do belive Slavic union is possible (also, it should be communist nation, fight me on thet if you will)
I would like to say Slavic people should together repopulate Magadan oblast on the principles of neo-slavism. Here should start Slavic sumer games in summer and Slavic winter games in winter. Magadan oblast should grow to 1 500 000 people from all Slavic nations. Build the modern economy. Something like a Slavic Israel. Make empty towns and vilages alive again build railways roads and all another infrastracture to make life modern and people be proud there. Connect Magadan oblast with railway line and good bitumen road with rest of Russia. Make it vibrant.
cool
Could perhaps start off with a Slavic Union that is purely for trade and economical benefits. We are all clearly culturally aligned but it will be near impossible to create a single nation.
Why would it be impossible?
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5:48- А чаму б не стварыць славянскі альфабэт зь старажытнаславянскай пісьмовай сістэмы, гляголыцы, кірыліцы і латыніцы?
5:51 - не.
Отсутствия единстава в итоге все равно ведет к деградации и исчезновения как видим на практике.
I think that would be better Slavic Federation or Alliance, but I am still a Pan-Slavist ;-)
Because you had problems with Russians!
You won? I thought your state in some time even wasn't existing. Maybe i was wrong.
Out of 12 Russo-Polish wars, Poland won 4 and Russia 8
Poles would help but to Germans. You wanted one border village and French would not help us too because of Munich Agreement ... We were in very bad situation 3 nations (Poland, Hungary angd Germany) wanted to go to war with us and we also lost our allies (France and UK) ... so gave up the land everyone wanted and with that we lost our defensive positions ... no long after that blow Germany continued and we end up without fighting ... We were politicaly outplayed. Prezident Beneš naive and stupid. He let that happend, surrender and after WW2 he still want to rule in our country ... what a politician
You can not say it was stolen ... There was no referendum which would ask the peole, just 2 nations wanted that area so they went to war and the winer took it(Czechs).
If the union was purely designed for economic and defense purposes, then I would support a Pan-Slavic nation. That being said, it would need to be designed such that every country is kept relatively independent, each country's culture is promoted over others, but that a single culture would be secondary. So for example, Poles and Russians would speak their own language and practice their own customs in their respective territories, but a single new Pan-Slavic language would be developed for use across the Pan-Slavic nation for international purposes.
Good point. I agree and well , it should be said that there is an idea of political and economical union- the idea of inter -marrum , Between Seas Miedzy Morze. Definitely this idea already existed before and was good. No need for mixing culturally! No need to have one language, oh come on Slavs, when we meet dont we understand each other. True I learned Russian at school cause I m 45, but in Belarus Czech Slovac Ukrainian I could understand most. Serbian needs practice.. What I am saying is that once before thousands of years we had scythian aryan common slavic territory. ALL PARTS were independant that s why WESTERN hierarchical tyrranical empires cant understand how slavic countries lived.. Well we lived independently and every body was free to practice what he wanted but not to destroy the common good. In the face of roman or osman turc empire we reunited and faught together. Check out the historical and archeological duscoveries. Also there were so many slavic tribes called different names... U must have that knowledge dont u? In Russia. There is the slavic revival, there is this great serbian language scientist Pesic who uncovered the beginning of slavic writing etc etc
The future depends on Slavs and on creating the POLITICAL ECONOMICAL federation
@@JoannaCholuj I agree that, generally speaking, Slavs across the board have some degrees of mutual intelligibility, linguistically wise. However, the problem seems to occur when you have, say, Bulgarian and Russian or Croatian and Russian. However, culturally, nearly all Slavic nations have similar cultures and customs, and even had very similar pagan religions prior to Christianization (even today, most Slavs are Orthodox or Catholic, the two religions being somewhat close to each other doctrinally). This hypothetical union would probably have no organized official religion, but may encourage aspects of all of the faiths. But definitely, if this "Intermarrium" idea was established throughout Slavic countries, it may work. Many restrictions and exceptions would need to be made, however, to prevent usurpation of power by larger nations of smaller ones.
Do not over-think it, guys. A Pan-Slav Beauty Pageant is all that the world needs. The rest will fall into place.
What if we would use both, our own language but also proto-slavic lenguage to communicate with others if needed?
Very possible
I unironically thought that Eastern Slavs could communicate in Old Polish. It is mostly understandable for me as Russian, must be understandable for Polish people, and I guess for Ukrainians and Belarussians too. Maybe then we can look for proto-language for Slavs from other regions, and unite the languages after that.
Interslavic
Mislim da u nekoj bliskoj budućnosti ni jedna ni druga opcija, nažalost, nisu moguće.
Ali za 150 - 200 godina, ko zna?
Možda će tada doći neke pametnije i sposobnije generacije Slovena koje će neku od ideja sprovesti u djelo.
A ako bih morao da biram, izabrao bih neku vrstu Slovenske unije, a nikako stvaranje neke slovenske države, jer imali smo nekoliko pokušaja u bližoj prošlosti (SSSR, Čehoslovačka, Jugoslavija) i svi znamo kako se to sve završilo.
Pozdrav iz Crne Gore.
We slavs should unite
We are the strongest race
Like the guy said Germany/Italy were fragmented countries too but look how strong they are now
Yugoslavia was strong in the 80s too alone we are nobody's but together
Well there is nothing stopping us then
We are all brothers and sisters
We have differences culture and religion but does that really matter that much
We all have the same red blood we all speak similar languages
Yes maybe in the northern part they should speak a northern slavic language and in the south serbo-croation
I think this will happen unfortunately not this generation or the next but there is hope for the generation after that
The wars we fought against each other in the past is the past let's burry the hatchet and embrace each other like brothers
Only then will we see a brighter tomorrow instead of the sick reality we live in now
I think it is obvious that "uniting under one banner" would never work. Nor would I want it to. Considering the divergent history and evolution of the various Slavic peoples, a "one size fits all" solution would be a civil war waiting to happen before it even got off the ground, as each nationalist dialectic identity jockeys for power.
A better solution would be a loose confederation similar to the Articles of Confederation, or maybe even OPEC, where the only real semblance of a unified tribe would be perhaps foreign policy, and even that would get thorny when one or several faction's interests are threatened by the consensus of the majority. Each state must keep it's sovereignty regarding internal affairs, it's own military identity, and probably currency.
Inter-Slavic historical grievances and scores to settle doesn't help matters, like the present diaster in Ukraine.
This Confederation idea is the best that can be hoped for in the foreseeable future, and even that's a long shot.
Don't want to be the black pill here, but all our respective sovereignties, economies and armed forces are practically non-existent. It's just a question do you prefer a Slavic union or a union dominated by non-Slavs. There is no other real alternative, it's a brute reality.
@@markeedeep The truth is that the Slavs never were united. A loose group of tribes that happened to speak a Slavic language "the Slavs".
Like "the Germans" during Roman times.
Closest we can do to a peaceful unification based on our Slavic identity and culture is a Economic block as the EU. But the EU will never let that happen. Or a sort of pact/treaty between our governments to enhance cultural growth with free travel, or organized yearly events, similar to the Olympics, but instead of sports it can be music, dance, folk legends, maskembals, etc. It’s a shame the Balkan is in such shambles today. One state is in bed with russia, the other ones desperately trying to join the EU, and Bulgarians still trying to assimilate Macedonians as if it’s 1913 again, not to mention the bad blood between Serbians, Croats, and Bosniaks. Uniting as proletariat was the only option and it worked until shit hit the fan. I don’t think we will be able to live under the same roof for at least many generations in the future, if those generations don’t emigrate to the West as we do now...
We should make a big slavic federation and split it into a southern western and eastern republic
If someday in future, a Slavian Union (SU) established, they may hav more bargain power upon EU. And economic strength may be less controlled by western Europe...I know many ppl will disagree but I personally believe it will happen...
The fact that this song, written by a slovak poet Samo Tomášik happened to be a hymn for many slavic countries says a lot. There are more versions, but I like the one with slavs the most.
Hej, Slovania, ešte naša
slovanská reč žije,
Dokiaľ naše verné srdce
za náš národ bije.
Žije, žije, duch slovanský,
bude žiť naveky,
Hrom a peklo, márne vaše
proti nám sú vzteky!
Jazyka dar zveril nám Boh,
Boh náš hromovládny,
Nesmie nám ho teda vyrvať
na tom svete žiadny;
I nechže je koľko ľudí,
toľko čertov v svete;
Boh je s nami: kto proti nám,
toho Parom zmetie.
A nechže sa i nad nami
hrozná búrka vznesie,
Skala puká, dub sa láme
a zem nech sa trasie;
My stojíme stále pevne,
ako múry hradné.
Čierna zem pohltí toho,
kto odstúpi zradne!
Singed to a melody almost the same as Poland's anthem wich is older. I'm so proud that it was chosen to be then panslavic anthem.
@@jedrzejbiaokryty1925 Honestly I think it's a theft of our "Mazurek Dąbrowskiego". I prefer to be Polish living in my love-hated Poland not some weird Slavic living in a panslavic union and de facto a Russian dog.
@@recordofragnarokisapurehyp6660 Well I mean like something like Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów, but bigger.
@@jedrzejbiaokryty1925 Nie pragnę odnowienia Rzeczpospolitej Obojga Narodów, która taka święta nie była (patrz, co robiła polska szlachta na Białorusi i Ukrainie oraz odwety kozaków). Wolę żyć w Polsce zamiast w dziwnej unii międzysłowiańskiej z Rosją na czele. Mamy piękny kraj, który jest moim domem, w którym się urodziłam i za który moi przodkowie walczyli.
@@recordofragnarokisapurehyp6660 nikt tu nie mówi o Rosji na czele. Ja po prostu wolę by Polska trzymała z tymi którzy mają podobne wartości i kulturę. Nie koniecznie ze zdradzieckim zachodem ani z zaborczą Rosją. I to się zgadza, mamy piękny kraj i ja stawiam go ponad wszystko.
Nationalism without faith is cold -Nikolaj Velimirović
Что же, это будет очень трудным и тщательным делом, но это возможно