These Changes Fix Smash Ultimate's Classic Mode

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  • I dive into the world of Smash mods once again to bring some improvements to Ultimate's Classic Modes!
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Komentáře • 502

  • @Aaronitmar
    @Aaronitmar  Před 2 lety +156

    What changes to classic mode would you guys like to see?

    • @maddestmike5791
      @maddestmike5791 Před 2 lety +3

      I'd like this change to both Sora and Kazuya's Classic Modes, for them to not exist in the first place.

    • @雪者
      @雪者 Před 2 lety +2

      I'd be fine with the Sora and Kazuya changes

    • @TAYBR00K
      @TAYBR00K Před 2 lety +7

      We need a lot less Master Hand!

    • @sonidash216
      @sonidash216 Před 2 lety +7

      I would change Sonic's Classic Route to be Let's Brawl where he would fight characters that debut in Super Smash Bros Brawl.
      1st Battle: Pit, Meta Knight & King DeDeDe on Green Hill
      2nd Battle: Rob, Pokemon Trainer & Lucario on Mushroomy Kingdom
      3rd Battle: Diddy Kong, Lucas & Ike on New Pork City
      4th Battle: Snake, Toon Link & Wolf on Pirate Ship
      5th Battle: Little Mac (Assist Trophy turned Fighter in SSB4) & Ridley (Boss Battle turned Fighter in SSBU) with the Waluigi Assist Trophy turned on
      Boss Battle: Galeum with Wario & Olimar as allies

    • @BowserMovies1989
      @BowserMovies1989 Před 2 lety +1

      I would change Mewtwo’s Classic mode (keep the stages and music):
      Battle 1: vs x2 Lucas (1 with regular colors and 1 with Claus’s colors)
      Battle 2: (with Lucas) vs Cloud
      Battle 3: (with Cloud) vs Ryu and Ken
      Battle 4: (replace Ken with Ryu due to Evil Ryu) vs Richter
      Battle 5: (with Richter) vs Palutena and Pit
      Battle 6: (replace Pit with Palutena (due to her mind control in “Uprising” and Mewtwo’s control over Nurse Joy in “Pokémon the First Movie” and it’s CGI remake)) vs Pokémon Trainer, Pikachu, and Lucario (referencing Ash Ketchum who faced Mewtwo in “Pokémon the First Movie,” it’s CGI remake, “Mewtwo Returns,” and “Pokémon Journeys”)
      Final Boss: (with Pikachu) vs Ganondorf/Ganon (referencing Giovanni, then Giovanni being corrupted by the Reveal Glass in "Pokémon Black and White: Rival Destinies") with Mii Brawlers (1 male with purple hair and 1 female with red hair with Team Rocket outfits (referencing Jessie and James) and 1 with cat suit (referencing Meowth)) (replacing Master and Crazy Hand)

  • @egg__boy
    @egg__boy Před 2 lety +674

    Love that Byleth's route is just them attacking children.

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond Před 2 lety +82

      I like it better than his original classic route

    • @Aaronitmar
      @Aaronitmar  Před 2 lety +237

      Shoulda gone to class

    • @erhanjpg1467
      @erhanjpg1467 Před 2 lety +43

      Child Abuse

    • @TAYBR00K
      @TAYBR00K Před 2 lety +34

      That should be my Dad's route as well.
      Get it? Domestic abuse jokes are always funny and never misfire.

    • @Jaxv3r
      @Jaxv3r Před 2 lety +19

      For some reason, I felt that Byleth is Anakin Skywalker

  • @IcyDiamond
    @IcyDiamond Před 2 lety +275

    Imagine if they had Pikachu in his wizard hat as Sora’s partner in classic mode to represent Mickey Mouse

    • @雪者
      @雪者 Před 2 lety +15

      Oh my goodness, clever

    • @anonymousdream9502
      @anonymousdream9502 Před 2 lety +13

      That... Yes.
      Just, yes.

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond Před 2 lety +3

      @Cliven Soewarna Good idea :)

    • @binho61717
      @binho61717 Před 2 lety +3

      Good Idea, I Just Think It Would Be A Little Bit Too Much To Ask For

  • @s_cabbage2
    @s_cabbage2 Před 2 lety +161

    In Rosalina's route, Starfy is the only Assist Trophy that shows up. So yeah, it's possible in theory, then again I don't know a lot about modding. Good video btw!

    • @chamtheman551
      @chamtheman551 Před 2 lety +20

      Also Young Link's route has only Assist Trophies from the Legend of Zelda
      series. So it's definitely possible only idk how to mod and it probably requires something more technical through the item spawning.

    • @Aaronitmar
      @Aaronitmar  Před 2 lety +30

      I dove into the files and based on what strictly determines each battle I couldn’t find a way to mirror how Rosalina/Young Link’s route handles assists :/ I suspect there is separate data elsewhere that would allow it to work

    • @chamtheman551
      @chamtheman551 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Aaronitmar maybe it works similar to the item probability ruleset (how likely an item is to spawn) and how you summon a specific Assist Trophy character in Training Mode.
      For example, the only items that spawn in Rosa's route are star-like items and the Assist Trophy. The Assist Trophy itself has only Starfy active and everyone else deactivated. Meanwhile, Young Link's route has Minda, the Moon, Skullkid, and Ghirahim as activated and every other Assist Trophy deactivated.
      This problem works similar to how you can't summon some Assist Trophies in certain stages (like Alucard in the Wii Fit stage because of the mirrors, or the Moon on Great Bay because it's already in the background)

    • @s_cabbage2
      @s_cabbage2 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Aaronitmar Ok, I see. Like I said I don't know about modding. Thanks for replying!

    • @Aaronitmar
      @Aaronitmar  Před 2 lety +4

      @@chamtheman551 The funny thing is in the file that handles the items, all of what you said is true. Rosalina specifically has the star items enabled, for example. But it only turns on the general item Assist Trophy, so it doesn't specify *just* Starfy, it's very strange, and I've yet to find anywhere that handles it.

  • @rosethepinkhairedsaiyan769
    @rosethepinkhairedsaiyan769 Před 2 lety +108

    I really think you should have put galleom into Rob's classic route since gallium is a brawl boss

    • @alikaisdead
      @alikaisdead Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah I agree

    • @R0-83-RT
      @R0-83-RT Před 2 lety +3

      @@alikaisdead Not to mention they're both robots.

    • @Chainsmoker69420
      @Chainsmoker69420 Před 2 lety +1

      And is still the finale in the R.O.B route

  • @choosbehguy
    @choosbehguy Před 2 lety +163

    I think an interesting change could be made to Sonic’s, in which there are 6 stages in Sonic 1 (Green Hill, Marble, Spring Yard, Labyrinth, Starlight and Scrap Brain), and of course 6 fights before the final one in Classic mode, so each arena could reference each stage, with Green Hill being obviously easiest to add. Not sure what the fights themselves could be, but maybe him fighting robotic characters in each stage, with animal characters working as partners, as a nod to him saving animals. I also think it could end with a giant Roy Koopa, as a nice reference to Eggman. Just a quick head canon there

    • @WS.Whisper
      @WS.Whisper Před 2 lety +14

      Or make Galleom as the final round instead

    • @CaptBlock
      @CaptBlock Před 2 lety +14

      I love the idea. The fights could reference villains throughout the series on STH1's stages.
      Fight 1: Mii Brawler (Knuckles outfit) on Green Hill Zone: Knuckles started out as a villain.
      Fight 2: Metal Sonic on Arena Ferox: Metal Sonic obviously references Metal Sonic. Arena Ferox has some marble pillars.
      Fight 3: Cyan Inkling on Mushroom Kingdom: Chaos from Adventure. Mushroom Kingdom at sunrise would have some very similar aesthetics to Spring Yard.
      Fight 4: Black Sonic on Great Bay: Y'know I had to put Shadow in here. Great Bay has lots of water like Labyrinth.
      Fight 5: Green Falco, Pink Falcon, & yellow bike Wario on Spear Pillar: The Babylon Rogues. Spear Pillar is kinda green and it's night and sometimes tilts.
      Fight 6: Red Incin, green ZSS, & whatever 4 others are good on Midgar: The deadly six. Midgar is a clear choice for Scrap Brain.
      Final Fight: Giant Roy Koopa on Shadow Moses Island: It's Dr Eggman in Final Zone
      You could also have an ally in each fight: 1] yellow Fox (Tails) 2] purple Daisy (Amy helping with Metal makes too much sense), 3] Knuckles Mii (he became good) 4] white Sonic (Silver also fought Shadow), 5] pink Robin (I had to put Blaze in here), 6] Roy Koopa (Eggman helped fight the Zeti), Final] yellow Fox and Knuckles Mii (this doesn't need explanation)

    • @Pepperknight341
      @Pepperknight341 Před 2 lety +4

      I think it should be about Sonic's History.
      1. Sonic 1 - Sonic vs. Dr. Robotnik(Ludwig) on Green Hill
      2. Sonic CD - Sonic vs. Metal Sonic(Sonic with a Metal Box) on Stardust Speedway(Big Blue)
      3. Sonic 2 - Sonic and Mii(Tails costume) vs. Robotnik(Ludwig) and Mecha Sonic(Sonic with a Metal Box) on the Death Egg(Shadow Moses Island)
      4. Sonic 3 & Knuckles - Sonic and Mii(Tails costume) vs. Robotnik(Ludwig) and Knuckles(Assist Trophy) on Hidden Palace(The Great Cave Offensive)
      5. Sonic Adventure 2 - Sonic vs. Shadow(Black Sonic) with Shadow's Assist trophy on the Space Colony Ark(Lylat Cruiser)
      6. Sonic Lost World - Sonic vs. The Deadly Six(Red Bowser, Yellow K. Rool, Pink Greninja, Blue Kirby, Green Beyonetta, and Purple Toon Link) on Windy Hill
      Boss. Forces - Sonic, Blue Sonic, and Red Wolf(Buddy(Wolf Avatar)) vs. Invisable Squirtle(Chaos 0), Red Bowser(Zavok), Black Sonic(Shadow with his Assist Tophy), Metal Sonic(Giant Sonic with Metal Box), Big Grey Lucario(Infinite), and Giant Ludwig with HP and Super Armor(Death Egg Robot Phase 3) on Null Space(Final Destination)

    • @Xxblade17
      @Xxblade17 Před 2 lety

      Yeah

    • @amesstarline5482
      @amesstarline5482 Před 2 lety +1

      Or! To keep the Sonic vs his Rivals..
      Green Hill with Ludwig, Eggman/Robotnik.
      Big Blue with Metal box Sonic.
      Etc etc, but also including Blaze, represented by a fire-using Lucina, on a Space Stage.

  • @real_abender
    @real_abender Před 2 lety +93

    The unfortunate flaw with a lot of these route ideas is that DLC fighters are used as opponents, which you may notice no routes use at all. Only base game fighters are used as opponents in Classic Mode.

    • @ChromaLuke
      @ChromaLuke Před 2 lety +19

      With the exception of Terry facing off against himself, Ryu, and Ken at the end of his route, yeah... literally none of the DLC characters fight other DLC characters.

    • @ClawsAndTeeth
      @ClawsAndTeeth Před 2 lety +14

      It's unfortunate, but it makes sense. What if you got one DLC fighter, but not another? There has to be flexibility in those areas.

    • @real_abender
      @real_abender Před 2 lety +1

      @@ClawsAndTeeth Exactly.

    • @kurisusenpai5728
      @kurisusenpai5728 Před 2 lety +11

      It doesn't matter if you haven't purchased them. With every update, they were added to your game, so other players that have purchased them can use them against you.
      The only difference is that they don't appear in the selection screen, so YOU can not use them.
      (The same with their stages, music, etc.)

    • @MrMariosonicman
      @MrMariosonicman Před 2 lety +5

      I like to imagine these routes as a "what if ultimate got a deluxe edition where DLC fighters and stages are part of the base game?"

  • @hiilikepizza3197
    @hiilikepizza3197 Před 2 lety +78

    A better version of Mario’s route would have him fighting third parties instead of Nintendo characters
    Round 1: Snake and Simon (Konami)
    Round 2: Sonic, Bayonetta, and Joker (Sega)
    Round 3: Mega Man and Ryu (Capcom)
    Round 4: PAC-MAN and Kazuya (Bandai)
    Round 5: Cloud, Hero, and Sora (Square Enix)
    Round 6: Banjo and Steve (Microsoft)
    Boss: Giga Bowser (Yes I know he’s Nintendo but Mario needs to fight him)

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya Před 2 lety +4

      Umm, Round 6 cannot work because they are DLC. If you lack the DLC, what would you fight?.

    • @SailAloy
      @SailAloy Před 2 lety +1

      So round 2,4, and 5 won't work either since they also use dlc
      Edit: wait i realized what you meant

    • @hiilikepizza3197
      @hiilikepizza3197 Před 2 lety +4

      @@toumabyakuya a lot of the classic routes should have dlc characters anyways, and if dlc doesn’t count just put in ken and richter

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya Před 2 lety +2

      ​@@hiilikepizza3197 The thing is that if they had DLC characters then the players that lack said DLC wouldn't be able to do said routes.
      Also, Ken and Richter wouldn't be able to fix anything because both Capcom and Konami have their own round.

    • @hiilikepizza3197
      @hiilikepizza3197 Před 2 lety +2

      🤓

  • @professoridiot26
    @professoridiot26 Před 2 lety +74

    I really like the idea of Sephiroth’s final battle being against the four main party members

  • @Dylamn
    @Dylamn Před 2 lety +24

    My idea for Sora would have not only a Duck Hunt ally, but an additional hero from any given series teamed up against their respective villains. Mario joins the party against Bowser, Link joins against Ganondorf, etc.
    This would mimic the structure of Sora, Donald, and Goofy traveling to different worlds, joining with their protagonists, and beating up their villains with them. Maybe you could have a heartless horde in one of the battles, with various shadow-skinned characters.

    • @ClawsAndTeeth
      @ClawsAndTeeth Před 2 lety +1

      I love that idea!

    • @zylderam2
      @zylderam2 Před 2 lety

      Completely agree with this :)

    • @MrMariosonicman
      @MrMariosonicman Před 2 lety

      it kinda has the same feel as Diddy kongs quest no? where he joins up to be the side-kick of the group?

  • @absolembum6399
    @absolembum6399 Před 2 lety +12

    I like Byleth's route, especially for the final boss part, because it also references how you can recruit students from other houses to join you to fight in the war, which in this case means you beat them up so they can join you fighting two giant hands

  • @QueenSharotto
    @QueenSharotto Před 2 lety +23

    I personally would like to see Joker’s classic mode to be more in line with the story of Vanilla Persona 5 rather then reference P3, 4 and 5 all at once. Yes, I know the Incineroar fight is meant to reference Shido. If I were doing the Classic Mode route, I’d also have Joker have allies to fight against giant versions of regular fighters.
    Below is how I would’ve done things. The six initial fights reference six of the seven palaces, while I moved the Incineroar fight to be at the end. Here’s how I would have it play out: *Also… Vanilla P5 Spoilers*
    - *Fight 1:* Based on the Castle of Lust, the allies would be Pikachu Libre, Black Alt Captain Falcon and Red Alt Zero Suit Samus *(referencing Morgana, Ryuji and Ann)* against a giant red male Wii Fit Trainer to reference Kamoshida on Castle Siege.
    - *Fight 2:* Based on the Museum of Vanity, the ally would be Black Alt Chrom to reference Yusuke and the fight is against a giant gold King Dedede to reference Madarame on Suzaku Castle.
    - *Fight 3:* Based on the Bank of Gluttony, the ally would be Black Alt Shiek to reference Makoto and the fight is against two enemies this time: A normal sized green Wario to reference Kaneshiro and a giant metal gray Kirby to reference the giant piggy bank vault thing on Dracula’s Castle.
    - *Fight 4:* Based on the Pyramid of Wrath, the ally would be an Orange Inkling to reference Futaba and the fight is against a giant Bayonetta to reference Cognitive Wakaba on Mushroomy Kingdom’s battlefield variant. I would also have the Willy Capsule assist here to reference Futaba’s Persona, Necronomicon.
    - *Fight 5:* Based on the Spaceport of Greed, the ally would be a pink Villager to reference Haru and the fight is a horde battle against a various tiny ROBs and the final fighter is a normal sized Black Alt Samus to reference Okumura on Omega Midgar.
    - *Fight 6:* Based on the Casino of Envy, the ally would be a Joker in his Crow Alt as an obvious reference to Akechi and the fight is against a giant brown Alt Dark Samus with a Killing Edge equipped to reference Shadow Sae on Omega Fourside.
    - *Fight 7 and Final Fight:* Based on the Cruiser of Pride and it’s against the aforementioned Incineroar referencing Shido. However, before that you would have to fight the Crow alt Joker referencing Akechi’s boss fight and then the Incineroar spawns. There are two allies and they reference Personas, the turquoise Fierce Deity Link referencing Yoshitsune can stay but I would also include a blue Peach to reference Alice. Both of these Personas reference the Personas Joker used against Shido in the anime adaption. The stage itself would be Final Destination.
    *How would you change things? Feel free to let me know*

    • @MetaDHedge28
      @MetaDHedge28 Před 2 lety +6

      That's super clever. One suggestion tho during the Sae fight maybe before the Dark Samus comes out you can fight a black alt Zero Suit Samus to reference Shadow Sae's form before the robotic monstrosity she becomes

    • @alonsociampi
      @alonsociampi Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@MetaDHedge28😮

  • @Kelis98
    @Kelis98 Před 2 lety +42

    My biggest issue with smash ultimate’s classic mode is how short each route is and the lack of some variety could be an issue for some as it’s the same route each time with one character with no variation (and I mean if you choose the same character then it’s the same route)
    Plus lack of mini game variety is also a big issue as it’s the same running one each time

    • @kirbyofthestarsfan
      @kirbyofthestarsfan Před 2 lety +6

      I wish so badly there was a randomized Classic Mode so you weren't stuck with the same matchups if you only pick your main, even Smash Wii U was better at that

    • @OscarSanchez-vo9dx
      @OscarSanchez-vo9dx Před 2 lety

      This was one of my biggest issues with ults classic mode and tbh it along with a lot of other things really just brings the game down for me

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 Před rokem +1

      Not just the lack of variety in fights but even difficulty. People who enjoy difficulties over 5.0 have to sit through joke fights. People who can't play above 5.0 have to start at 1.0 to enjoy the mode.
      Not to mention difficulty is also based on match ups, some characters get harder fights then others.
      It is arguably the worst classic mode just from how it alienates everyone.

    • @asaeltorres7340
      @asaeltorres7340 Před rokem

      Also there is no Classic All Star Mode

    • @asaeltorres7340
      @asaeltorres7340 Před rokem

      @@Buglin_Burger7878
      Also No Classic All Star Mode!

  • @DjoingDalton
    @DjoingDalton Před 2 lety +20

    I've had a similar idea for Pokémon trainer, but limited it to the Pokémon league instead of randomly stopping by each gym that can be adapted.
    Fight 1: a horde of pokémon on the great cave offensive, referencing Victory Road. Has the appropriate music to help make it more obvious.
    Fight 2: Zero Suit Samus and the Ice climbers to reference Lorelei and her ice types.
    Fight 3: Ryu and Lucario to reference Bruno and his fighting types.
    Fight 4: There's no old lady on the roster, so I chose Zelda using her white-haired alt, along with Kirby using his black alt to reference Agatha and her Ghost Types (specifically Gastly)
    Fight 5: Marth and ridley to reference Lance and his Dragon Types.
    Fight 6: opposite gender Pokémon trainer to serve as the champion.
    and then the boss stays the same, mewtwo followed by Master Hand, referencing the battle which is unlocked after the league.
    Also, since I have a vendetta against uneven fights in classic modes, Pikachu will be your ally for the whole route. I guess fight 6 can also add a Pichu to properly mirror your team.

    • @Aaronitmar
      @Aaronitmar  Před 2 lety

      Love this!

    • @NinjaPickle
      @NinjaPickle Před 2 lety +3

      Love this, but swap Marth with Roy, the red hair matches better. Everything else, great!

    • @DjoingDalton
      @DjoingDalton Před 2 lety

      @@NinjaPickle totally fair.

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 Před rokem

      @@Aaronitmar what if you make the DLC bosses in each of your future episodes
      Inkling classic mode is Octavio
      Greninja classic mode boss Rayquaza and arceus
      Ness and Lucas classic mode porky statue
      Incineroar classic mode boss Necrozma
      Hyness will be in DeDeDe classic mode as bosss

  • @thecosplaycrafter8017
    @thecosplaycrafter8017 Před 2 lety +8

    I love the change to the end of Sephiroth's route. I feel like the boss rush idea just screams "I'm OP and I know it."

  • @rollingtony5007
    @rollingtony5007 Před 2 lety +16

    *Minor spoilers for Fire Emblem Three Houses*
    I love the Byleth one, however the final boss could have Rathalos as a stand in for the final boss in Crimson Flower and Silver Snow with the Apex of the World playing in the background. Aside from that, it’s pretty accurate since it could also represent Byleth aggressively recruiting students from other houses.
    Edit: Also why is Marth the only Fire Emblem character to fight Rathalos? It’s practically a meme that the final boss on almost every Fire Emblem game is a dragon.

  • @EmicalFire055
    @EmicalFire055 Před 2 lety +21

    Not a bad selection. For me I would change Lucina's classic mode to include smashers that traveled through time (Link and young link) and kept Byleth's route the same.
    I totally agree with Greninja's route on having Piranha plant be with Ivysaur.
    While I thought of something else for ROB, your idea worked great (the only change I'd make is make ganondorf the sole final boss)
    Your idea for Sora is great.
    As for the pokemon trainer, I went with the squad strike matchup with non-fighting characters. (But your plan works too)
    For Sephiroth I would only have Cloud as the final opponent.
    Really good job overall!

  • @revalentinemashups510
    @revalentinemashups510 Před 2 lety +11

    Some tweaks I could see:
    -instead of bowser jr. and young link, have Byleth fight all of Bowser's kids as a horde.
    -Since he's a subspace boss, maybe use Galleom for ROB's final battle?
    -Have PKMN trainer's subspace focus on the elite four, with fights based around each member and the journey there. Those would be:
    1. A battle in a cave stage with a horde of miis, for Victory Road. Give them more animal-themed costumes.
    2. A battle on pokemon stadium 2's ice transformation, against ice climbers and greninja. Referencing Lorelei.
    3. Boxing ring, against little mac and Ryu. Put in grey k. Rool too to reference Bruno's onix.
    4. Luigi's Mansion, against dark samus, simon and bayonetta, for Agatha. Not a lot of "ghostly" characters in smash, but I did what I could.
    5. Same Dragon idea from the video, maybe minus the Dragonborn
    6. To reference the champion fight, Battle an opposing pokemon trainer, alongside falco, zelda and k.rool to reference his pidgeot, alakazam and rhydon respectively. This can be on main pokemon stadium.
    7. Final Boss is still mewtwo, as you can only access mewtwo once you become champion

  • @MarshtompGames
    @MarshtompGames Před 2 lety +4

    Well, in the case of Bowser Jr., it makes even more sense when you remember one of his lines in Mario + Rabbids says that he finished most of his homework.

  • @The4thSnake
    @The4thSnake Před rokem +2

    Another way you could approach a Pokemon route would be to pair each enemy pokemon with a similar non-Pokemon fighter, as if they're its trainer. Like, Ken with Incineroar, Ryu with Lucario, Sheik with Greninja, Ness/Snake with Mewtwo, etc.

  • @YosherYoshi
    @YosherYoshi Před 2 lety +9

    The only thing I would change that you did is the final fight with Sephiroth against Cloud and the FF7 Miis. Specifically, I would make it so Cloud is the last fighter, because Cloud is also the last person Sephiroth fights in FF7, AND it feels a bit anticlimactic to end the fight on a Mii of all things.

    • @Aaronitmar
      @Aaronitmar  Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah in retrospect that is a better ending, I realized it too while editing but it was a little too late to go back and change everything

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 Před rokem

      @@Aaronitmar what if Sakurai makes a DLC story mode when the subspace emmisary returns to smash ultimate
      Mario link with inkling boy and girl
      Simon and richter with pichu and Luigi

  • @UnoTheFirstOne
    @UnoTheFirstOne Před 2 lety +5

    An additional thing in Byleth’s route, have them parter with Robin, prioritizing tomes, against pit

  • @CaptainGriffin
    @CaptainGriffin Před 2 lety +1

    This is how I would recreate Falco's classic route:
    "Melee sized adventure" (name pending)
    Round 1: vs. Peach and Mario in Peach's Castle.
    Round 2: vs. Zelda and Sheik in Temple.
    Round 3: vs. A team of Kirbys in Green Greens.
    Round 4: vs. A team of Pikachus, Pichus and Jigglypuffs in Pokemon Stadium (the only item for this round are Poke Balls).
    Round 5: vs. 3 Ness in Onett.
    Round 6: vs. Metal Mario and Metal Luigi in the Battlefield form of Final Destination.
    Boss: Giga Bowser.

  • @Artista_Frustrado
    @Artista_Frustrado Před 2 lety +3

    i love the changes you did for these routes, not only they're an improvement over the originals but also better thought out than the previous video. Love them! (also yeah is odd that they didn't retrofit the Routes, they did for certain Spirits)
    yeah the lack of DLC BossRush was such a missed opportunity.

  • @lambdaxgames4654
    @lambdaxgames4654 Před 2 lety +1

    Snake Classic Mode that mimics the Shadow Moses Incident
    1. Mii Gunner - Revolver Ocelot
    2. Metal Greninja - Gray Fox
    3. Mewtwo - Psycho Mantis
    4. ZSS - Sniper Wolf
    5. Giant Falco - Vulcan Raven
    6. Giant Rob - Metal Gear Rex
    7. Snake - Liquid Snake

  • @DjoingDalton
    @DjoingDalton Před 2 lety +8

    I had a different way of fixing Byleth's classic route that still works with a similar theme
    Instead of fighting against all Fire Emblem characters, you fight alongside all Fire Emblem characters.
    ...I must admit to not having the opponents thought out all that well, but you can mostly just reference their classic routes. dragons for Marth, knights using their black alt for Ike, a few swordsmen for roy, etc. This doesn't work too well with Chrom and Lucina though...

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya Před 2 lety

      - For Chrom: A Reddish Bowser (in representation of Kamuz [from The Legend of Valkyrie]), Bayonetta (in representation of Saya) and a Black Sheik wearing a Bunny Hood (in representation of Sheath) as a reference to Project XZone 2 (another crossover game they were part of).
      - For Lucina: Two Robins (a Male and a Female) and a Ridley (in representation of Grima). You also have an ally Chrom.

  • @cyberfilmproductions8987
    @cyberfilmproductions8987 Před 2 lety +2

    I would've loved to see a mii classic mode where you can create your own route for each Mii you make.

  • @sirekumasutra7022
    @sirekumasutra7022 Před 2 lety +3

    Falco's should be vs sidekicks/2nd Bananas/Henchmen
    1 Daisy-common character in secondary/sports games
    2 Isabelle-assistant to Tom Nook in ACNH
    3 Meta Knight/Dedede-partner characters in some Kirby games like Return to Dream Land
    4 Diddy Kong-DK's partner in DKC games
    5 Bowser Jr-Bowser's lackey
    6 Luigi-OG Player 2

  • @DavrenHelsmere
    @DavrenHelsmere Před 2 lety +8

    For my Classic Mode Change, I'd overhaul Sora's. I do think what it is now is fits perfectly, but I feel it could better represent Kingdom Hearts, so here's my idea:
    The title is "My Friends are my Power", and it has Sora and Duck Hunt (Donald and Goofy) team up with various heroes to face off against the villains of their franchise, with each villain being powered up in someway (as if they were corrupted by Darkness). Not only does this reference the Disney worlds, the villains getting corrupted by darkness, and how you often get party members in each one, it also references Ultimate's theme itself of "Heroes and Villains", tying up the final DLC with a cute lil bow.
    Fight 1 teams you up with Fox to fight Wolf.
    Fight 2, you're with Samus to fight Ridley or Dark Samus.
    Fight 3, you're teamed up with Kirby (and King Dedede?) to fight Marx.
    Fight 4, you team up with Link and Zelda to fight a stronger Ganon.
    Fight 5 teams up with Mario and Luigi to fight a stronger Giga Bowser.
    Fight 6, it ends with you teaming up with Cloud to fight Sephiroth, but Duck Hunt is gone for this fight.
    The final battle, you fight a Suped-Up Master Hand and Crazy Hand while teamed up with Duck Hunt, Mario, Link, and Kirby.

    • @Twilight17Petkoton
      @Twilight17Petkoton Před rokem

      Not really Sora face Sephiroth alone in Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 without any help so no Cloud in his fight.

    • @DavrenHelsmere
      @DavrenHelsmere Před rokem

      @@Twilight17Petkoton But then it takes away from the whole theme of this classic mode, working alongside friends. Is it more accurate to have Sora fight Sephiroth alone? Absolutely, but it goes against the theme of the rest of the classic mode, plus I wasn't trying to recreate the games' scenarios, just the theme.

  • @SnaksiXD
    @SnaksiXD Před rokem +1

    6:29 I love how you say "I know he's DLC and all" here when you straight up put Byleth against a character who at the time of his/her release wasn't even announced.

  • @ElToland
    @ElToland Před 2 lety +1

    That "Ancient Minister" route is nuts! so much Subspace Emissary nostalgia

  • @Superemie401
    @Superemie401 Před rokem +2

    I have an idea for Fox: We only change the 6th fight. It’s against Wolf, but I was thinking about something… Why we wouldn’t add the characters that represent Fox’s teammates and the ones of Wolf in Star Fox 64? In the original game, when Star Wolf comes, Fox fights the team with his friends. Why only the leaders are fighting?! Adding Greninja (Slippy), King Dedede (Peppy), Falco, Yoshi (Leon), Wario (Pigma) and Diddy Kong (Andrew) would be amazing! (+ Fox would still end up being alone against the Hands (Andross), as a reference to how Fox fights Andross alone to protect Falco, Slippy and Peppy.)

  • @amesstarline5482
    @amesstarline5482 Před 2 lety +1

    "Hey, Hands, Leave these kids alone!" said Byleth, commanding their students to fight.

  • @Teedgeee
    @Teedgeee Před 2 lety +2

    wouldve been nice if sephiroths final boss was galeem (even if thats unrealistic), wouldve been a fantastic callback to his reveal trailer

  • @usermcskull4713
    @usermcskull4713 Před 2 lety +1

    Meta Knightmare - Meta Knight
    Ally is a Green Marth in all fights, referencing Blade Knight
    - Big Pirahna Plant and King Dedede in the Boxing Ring, referencing Whispy Woods and King Dedede
    - Big red Falco and four small yellow Falcos on Skyloft, referencing Dynablade and her children
    - Two Big brown Kirbys in the omega form of Great Cave Offensive, referencing Wham Bam Rock
    - R.O.B, a blue Robin, Meta Knight and a red Charizard in hazardless Magicant, referencing Computer Virus
    - Multiple coloured Yoshis in Northern Cave, referencing Chamelo Arm
    - Meta Knight with the Galacta Knight alt in Final Destination

  • @marcelopaulo446
    @marcelopaulo446 Před 2 lety +3

    Pirana plant's classic mode could be changed to be "The Top Minions" where he would take on fighters that represent famous Mario enemies,like for exemple a mii with a shy guy hat on subcon(mushroom Kingdom II) or a Giant jiglipuff on brinstar (represeting the bully)and ending with a lot of caracteres represeting some of the most famous mainline Mario bosses (a metal Pac-Man represeting king-bob omb,a Giant grey kirby representing King boo,Wario...and more!

  • @雪者
    @雪者 Před 2 lety +3

    The Byleth one was pretty clever.

  • @ThePika78
    @ThePika78 Před 2 lety +2

    I looooooove the concept of Byleth's route. Not only it takes into account he's a teacher, but also includes the "Recruit" mechanic that Fire Emblem is known for. I know the og route could've gone for that too, but here is more noticiable and not just a team up to defeat a greater boss.

  • @nateclone3828
    @nateclone3828 Před 2 lety +2

    Bowser Junior New Route: When I'm Older...
    Fights against child and adolescent
    characters, each battle increasing in age.
    Battle 1: Pichu, called a "Baby Pokémon". On Pokemon Stadium.
    Battle 2: Young Link, age 9. On Great Bay.
    Battle 3: Lucas and Ness, age 12 and 13, respectively, on Onett.
    Battle 4: Roy, age 15, on Castle Siege.
    Battle 5: Little Mac, age 17, on Boxing Ring
    Battle 6: Shulk, age 18, on the battlefield form of Gaur Plain
    Boss: Mario on Delfino Plaza, references the full line the title of the route is based on; "...when I'm older, I wanna fight that Mario, again!". To compensate for a plain 1v1 being the boss of this route, Mario much more difficult than normal, regardless of a chosen difficulty.

  • @CelticVizard
    @CelticVizard Před 2 lety +3

    Sephiroth's final round was the best. What a great twist to end a boss rush!! You are the final boss!!

  • @thebenwilbert
    @thebenwilbert Před 2 lety +3

    Here’s an idea: Change Marth’s Classic Mode to be like this
    Stage 1: Pikachu
    Stage 2: Captain Falcon
    Stage 3: Ice Climbers
    Stage 4: Peach
    Stage 5: Falco
    Stage 6: Puff
    Final: Fox
    Only these stages (Order doesn’t matter): Battlefield, Final Destination, Yoshi’s Story, Dream Land, Fountain, Pokemon Stadium.
    Title: Something like ‘Melee’s Top Tiers’

    • @thebenwilbert
      @thebenwilbert Před 2 lety

      @Cliven Soewarna I mean either one of them can have it, but ONLY one of them

  • @DrMadd
    @DrMadd Před 2 lety +2

    Here’s a new one for Captain Falcon
    “Race to the Finish”
    This classic mode would be based on characters from other racing games.
    1. Mario & Luigi - Figure 8 Circuit - Referencing the Mario Kart series.
    2. Kirby, Dedede & Meta Knight - Saffron City - Referencing Kirby Air Ride and the City Trial mode of that game.
    3. Diddy Kong & Banjo - Kongo Falls - Referencing Diddy Kong Racing
    4. Cloud & Falco - Northern Crater - Referencing Cloud’s appearance in the Chocobo Racing series with Falco acting as a stand-in for Chocobo.
    5. Link, Isabelle, Inkling - Mario Kart Circuit - References how all 3 of them were guest characters in Mario Kart 8.
    6. Sonic - Green Hill Zone - Referencing the MANY racing games Sonic has been in over the years. Also him being the fastest character in the cast.
    Boss: Galleom - Can turn into a car that shoots off super fast.

  • @captconrad6014
    @captconrad6014 Před rokem +1

    Idea for a reworked Bowser's classic mode: "Showtime!"
    This classic mode features fighters that represent bosses that Bowser fights in Bowser's Inside Story
    Stages 1-6 play Tough Guy Alert!
    Stage 1: Donkey Kong (Color 8) on Spiral Mountain to represent Midbus
    Stage 2: Giant Duck Hunt (Color 7) on Tortimer Island to represent Broggy
    Stage 3: Min Min (Color 6) on Garden of Hope to represent Wiggler
    Stage 4: ROB (Color 2) on Omega Golden Plains to represent Tower of Yikk
    Stage 5: Ridley (Color 2) om Omega Spear Pillar to represent Super Peach's Castle
    Stage 6: Meta Knight (Color 5) on Dracula's Castle to represent Dark Fawful
    Boss Stage: Either Bowser (Color 8) on Prism Tower at the very top of the tower or Giga Bowser with The Grand Finale playing in the background.
    Thoughts?

  • @Joyc_Lol_8430
    @Joyc_Lol_8430 Před rokem +2

    I've had an idea for richter's route
    It's called "belmont legacy" or "vampire hunters"
    It's a route where richter takes on anyone who wielded the vampire killer in any of the castlevania games before and after the events of symphony of the night
    1: richter (white alt) (leon belmont)
    2: simon (black alt) (trevor belmont) palutena or zelda (blue alt) (sypha belnades) sheik ( red alt) (grant dynasty)
    3: richter (red alt) (christopher belmont)
    4: simon (red alt) (juste belmont) richter (green alt) (Nathan graves)
    5: richter (yellow alt) (john morris) simon ( red alt) (johnathan morris)
    6: richter (red alt) (julius belmont) simon (red alt) (gabriel belmont) richter(black alt) (victor Belmont)
    Final boss: dracula or simon belmont
    I know it's just the 2 belmonts, i will look for other characters for representation

  • @crystalalumina
    @crystalalumina Před 2 lety +1

    Snakes classic mode could be changed into the actual boss fights from MGS1, starting with Fox as Revolver Ocelot (like in World of Light), Sheik as the Cyborg Ninja, Mewtwo obviously Psycho Mantis, Rosalina as Sniper Wolf, maybe Ganondorf or another heavy fighter as Vulcan Raven, and here's where we twist things a little, a fight against the other Snakes, Tiger Stripe Snake as Big Boss (MGS3), Wolf as Solidus Snake (MGS2) and Ken as Liquid Snake (MGS1), then the Galleom fight of course, but with male Corrin as an assistant to represent Raiden (from MGS2)

  • @VGInterviews
    @VGInterviews Před 2 lety +4

    I always had the hope that as a extra special bonus, once all the DLC was out they would add an update where you can choose to do any route with any character, provided you first cleared the original route
    And for Byleth's route I don't know, I think after Inklings the concept becomes kind of a stretch, since their main thing is their different weapons I would've gone with fighters who have a diverse arsenal of tools/equipment:
    The Links, Snake, Inkling, Villager & Isabelle, K.Rool, Bowser Jr, The Pits etc. Even Shulk, he only has the monado but it can "transform" like Byleth's weapon treasure things (I dunno, I only played the GBA fire emblem and got bored)

  • @0nion_Rings
    @0nion_Rings Před 2 lety

    The use of the pictochat stage in Byleths route is a clear reference to children using pictochat in school instead of learning.

  • @DenRayMemes
    @DenRayMemes Před rokem +2

    My Sonic's classic mode rework:The name of the mode is:The classical throwback. And in this classic mode Sonic will go through his past games.
    Round 1: Battle against Roy the coopaling on Green hill Zone, representing the first boss in Sonic the hedgehog 1
    Round 2:Boss fight against Galleom with the Fox(or Mii gunner Tails costume) Ally, This represents Death egg robot from Sonic 2, and Fox represents Tails The Fox
    Round 3:Battle against Red Capitan Falcon on Windy Hill Battlefield form, with Angel island music playing in the background, this represents Knuckles the Echidna, and Windy hill represents Angel Island zone
    Round 3: Fight against Metall form of Sonic on the Omega New Pork city, This represents Metall Sonic, and stage represents Stardust Speedway bad Future from Sonic Cd, where You fight metall sonic in the original
    Round 4:Fight against Blue inkling on the Forcide stage with Open your Heart music, this represents Sonic Adventure and the Chaos Fight from that game
    Round 5:Fight against Giant King K Rool on some space stage (idk wich one to chose) with the Shadow the hedgehog Assist Trophy apearing in the beginning of the Round, and Live And learn music, This represents Bio Lizard from Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow assisting is a referens to the original where Shadow assisting in this fight
    Final Round:Team battle with Fox(or mii gunner Tails) And Red Little Mac against Dr. Mario Red variant and Metall Sonic on the Meta Knight ship(forget the stage name sorry) with Sonic heroes music playing in the background, This referensing Sonic Heroes, the stage referensing Final Fortress, Dr. Mario-Dr. Eggman
    Metall Sonic - Neo Metall Sonic, then fighting a Giant Meta Ridley representing Metall Madness/Overlord from Sonic Heroes
    Phew..... That was long
    Please like this comment so Aaronitmar Will see it!

  • @legomaster2538
    @legomaster2538 Před 11 měsíci

    9:00 I 100% agree that there should’ve been a whole boss rush mode using the mechanics of Sephiroth’s classic mode. And as a bonus, include Galeem and Dharkon as well.

  • @gengarguy8801
    @gengarguy8801 Před měsícem

    Made a new route theme for Sephiroth titled "I Will Never be a Memory" where he fights against characters who have undergone serious trauma in their past or are mentally scarred. Your idea for the final battle still stands but here's the new round 1-6 I made with the help of a friend:
    -Lucas on New Pork City
    -Link on Find Mii
    -Snake on Shadow Moses Island
    -Mewtwo on Frigate Orpheon
    -Shulk on Palutena's Temple
    -Hero on Bridge of Eldin

  • @alexniko-vu1fk8og2f
    @alexniko-vu1fk8og2f Před rokem +1

    Byleth Classic Mode:
    Axes or Tails
    Round 1 - VS Simon Belmont
    Round 2 - VS King K. Rool/Bowser Jr. (Ludwig Costume)
    Round 3 - VS Ritcher Belmont/Steve/Alex (Tennis Costume)
    Round 4 - VS ARMS Horde Battle: Min Min/Mii Brawlers (Spring Man/Ribbon Girl/Ninjara Costumes)
    Round 5 - VS Zombie/Mii Gunner (Tails Costume)
    Round 6 - VS Tails and Axes Horde Battle: Koopalings (All Costumes except Ludwig)/Mr. Game and Watch/Robin (Male)/Corrin (Female)
    Final Round - All Fire Emblem Characters VS Ganon

  • @redphantom6921
    @redphantom6921 Před 3 měsíci

    1:41 Pit: I never learned how to READ!!!
    Byleth: Read N!&&@, Read!

  • @kop363
    @kop363 Před 2 lety +3

    I love the callback to Subspace for R.O.B.
    I would have loved a teamup of DDD, Luigi and Ness somewhere in there though.

    • @Superemie401
      @Superemie401 Před 2 lety +1

      Yea! They saved the whole casting (Expect some characters, like Sonic.) with the help of Kirby! Luigi would use the moves he shares with Mario, referring how Luigi was Mario’s semi-clone in Brawl.

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 Před rokem +1

      What if Sakurai makes a DLC story mode called subspace emmisary returns to smash ultimate and add bosses DJ Octavio, Rayquaza, Duon, porky Statue, Ultra Necrozma, Hyness instead of Marx and queen Metroid

  • @chamtheman551
    @chamtheman551 Před 2 lety +4

    Here are my ideas on fixed final battles or additional bosses:
    *Fox/Falco:* Marx (to represent Andross and also another Space-themed battle)
    *Ness:* Giant Mewtwo on Onett omega form (replicating Giygas' 1st form)
    *Peach:* Giga Bowser on Peache's Castle omega form (removing Bowser from one of the battles before)
    *Dr. Mario:* One red, blue, and yellow Bowser (to represent each color of the viruses from Dr. Mario)
    *Pichu:* Marx (he technically is the lightest boss of all bosses excluding Galeem)
    *Roy:* Ganon (because he's the only boss with swords)
    *Wario:* Giga Bowser
    *Sonic:* Roy Koopa or Galleom (To reference Dr. Eggman)
    *Ike:* Giant Black Knight Mii Swordfighter on Castle Siege omega form
    *Villager:* Marx (due to his innocent appearance before his transformation)
    *Shulk:* Galleom (to reference the robot-like enemies in Xenoblade)
    *Greninja:* Incineroar right before Dracula (to represent Dark Type)
    *Palutena:* Ganon (alongside some tiny Pits and Dark Pits on your side to represent the Centurions from Kid Icarus)
    *Richter:* Crazy Hand on the Castlevania omega stage regarding difficulty level (Crazy Hand is basically the Echo of Master Hand)
    *Banjo + Kazooie:* Bayonetta right before Master + Crazy Hand (to reference Gruntilda)
    Let me know if there are any other ideas for unique bosses👍

    • @emoji3266
      @emoji3266 Před 2 lety +1

      Did you take information from Odyssey Central? It kind of reminds me of that.

    • @chamtheman551
      @chamtheman551 Před 2 lety

      @@emoji3266 some of it. He's got some fire ideas ngl

  • @bholo157
    @bholo157 Před rokem +1

    Man that new ROB route is awesome! I loved Subspace in all it's insanity and I really think a route like this would be right up Sakurai's alley! Great work!

  • @shyguy3558
    @shyguy3558 Před 2 lety +1

    Luigi Needs To have GHOST THEMED CHARACTERS!!! His Should Be Called ``Exploring The Mansion``

  • @simoneporretto3765
    @simoneporretto3765 Před 2 lety +4

    i think that richter classic mode could use some change. The theme could be "The Wip's memory", and it would see Richter against all of the mainline belmonts/castlevania protagonists in stamina battles. For the first one, a battle against a richter with Leon's alt (the white and red one) with "Lament of innocence" as the song amd castle siege as the stage. Next a battle against a simon with his yellow alt, a Zelda with the blue alt and a red shiek (and alucard as an assist if it works) to reference Trevor's party in Castlevania III with beginning in the background and dracula's castle as the stage. After that, a battle against Simon Belmont with "Simon Belmont theme" from super Castlevania IV with reset bomb as the stage, then a battle against a richter with the red alt and a yellow alt Chrom to reference Juste Belmont and Maxim with awake in the background (to reference another gba castlevania game) and kalos league as the stage. After that a battle against a mii sword fighter with a black pirate suite and blonde long hairs to match Alcuard's appereance and a green alt palutena to reference Maria, and the tragic prince as a music and unova league as the stage. After that a battle against a red alt Richter and a blue alt zelda in spear pillar with "ripped silence" as the music, to reference the battle against richter you need to take in order to use the vampire killer in Portrait of ruin. After that a battle against a richter with the yellow alt to reference Julius belmon, with "heart of fire" as background music and bridge of eldin as the stage. Lastly, replacing Dracula, a battle against a Richter with the dark blue alt, in dracula's castle and with divine bloodlines as the background song, to reference his battle in Symphony of the night, with alucard's assist trophy and smash balls as the only item spawning to make it more accurate. Hope you'll like my idea and sorry for my bad english

  • @koopadude1
    @koopadude1 Před 2 lety

    “Everyone who wears glasses loves school.”
    Me (Who still has PTSD from his days in public school.): Welp time to get LASIK.

  • @BigRedAltoids
    @BigRedAltoids Před 2 lety +4

    I'd like to see a Game and Watch classic mode that focuses entirely on handheld history rather than general gaming. We have Pac-Man for that and Game and Watch is important to handheld gaming in particular.

  • @valemontgomery9401
    @valemontgomery9401 Před rokem +1

    Ironically, Disney was very open to having their characters appear in Smash. It was Sakurai who didn’t want non-video game elements in the game, which I really respect. Really committing to that stance despite the money he could have made

  • @Pumpkinbyte
    @Pumpkinbyte Před 2 lety +3

    Idea: Change marios to " reclaiming the throne " and have it be a retelling of Mario Land 2, and have it end with a wario (with his land skin) that uses mega mushrooms bc wario was taller back then

  • @smoothdude77
    @smoothdude77 Před 2 lety +1

    Here was my idea for Byleth's Route. I like the idea of recruiting your children to fight at the end tho.
    Byleth’s Classic Mode Route is now Post-Timeskip. In this route, Byleth awakens after a long slumber, discovering WOT some Fighters have been up to since their respective timeskips.
    Round 1 - Vs. Ike, in reference to Radiant Dawn.
    Stage - Castle Siege.
    Round 2 - Vs. Link, in reference to BTOW
    Stage - Great Plateau Tower.
    Round 3 - Vs. Young Link, in reference to Ocarina of Time.
    Stage - Hyrule Castle.
    Round 4 - Vs. Pit, in reference to the Three Year time skip in Kid Icarus Uprising.
    Stage - Reset Bomb Forest.
    Round 5 - Vs. Sonic, in reference to the Bad Futute in Sonic CD.
    Stage - Midgar.
    Round 6 - Vs. Villager, in referecing to the time skipping exploit in Animal Crossing games.
    Stage - Smashville.
    BOSS: Vs. Ganon

  • @nickelpickel6212
    @nickelpickel6212 Před 2 lety

    For Ridley: Orphan Maker
    He’d fight characters with a parent-child relationship, but he would only need to kill the character that represents the parent.
    Chrom and Lucina, Pikachu and Pichu, Dr. Mario (representing Dr. Light) and Megaman, Heihachi (Mii fighter) and Kazuya, Rosalina and Luma, and Giga Bowser and Bowser Jr. The final battle would, of course, be against Samus with the Metroid assist trophy.

  • @slatetruck3240
    @slatetruck3240 Před 2 lety +3

    About the assist trophy thing with byleth, it is possible, as in ness' classic mode, only jeff and starman will appear

  • @whispercorner04
    @whispercorner04 Před 2 lety

    Fun fact: Disney didn't have any shenanigans at all, it was Nomura and Sakurai himself the ones who limited the Disney part of Sora

  • @JustJulyo
    @JustJulyo Před 2 lety

    Absolutely love these ideas!

  • @icelordhitsugaya
    @icelordhitsugaya Před 2 lety +1

    Here's my idea for Ken. I saw the last video and while I respect the idea, I think this one would fit a bit better:
    Go Home and be a Family Man (a quote from Guile from SF2 and the fact that Ken is father to his son Mel).
    Ken would fight every character on the roster that is cannonically a dad in game. (so no Fox as he only becomes a dad during one ending of Star Fox Command, a game we still want to purge from our minds).
    1. Chrom (Father of Lucina)
    2. Male Robin (Father of Morgan)
    3. Terry (Adopted Father of Rock Howard)
    4. Male Corrin (Father of Kana)
    5. Kazuya (Father of Jin Kazama)
    6. Bowser (Father of Bowser Jr.)
    7. (Boss) Dracula (Father of Alucard)

  • @curtdog647
    @curtdog647 Před 2 lety +1

    I think Byleth could have them fight Pokemon Trainer to reference the Pokemon School that appears in every game

  • @Rhubarb120
    @Rhubarb120 Před 2 lety +5

    Something I noticed in the menu of Smash Ultimate, is that the picture they use for the tips menu feels outdated now that Byleth is in the game. It shows Robin teaching a group of kids, which worked well enough for the time, but it feels wrong now that there is someone in the game whose job is teaching children. I guess it still KIND OF works, because Robin is a tactician, but still, Byleth fits there so much better.

  • @R0-83-RT
    @R0-83-RT Před 2 lety

    One main change I would add across the board is add in more assist trophies act as Bosses. Considering there are spirit matches where taking fighting a specific assist trophy is an objective, it should be within the teams tools to do this if they thought of it.
    Considering Smash Ultimate is the first game where Assist trophies can be knocked out it would feel pretty cool to have specific dedicated rounds to fight some of them.
    Adding the Black Knight & Mother Brain Assist Trophies in particular feels like they can really spice up some routes.

  • @kevinbattey1904
    @kevinbattey1904 Před 2 lety +8

    For sephiroths fight against the mii, i think it would make more sense to start with aerith...
    Yeah ill see myself out

  • @disqord3416
    @disqord3416 Před 2 lety

    Sonic should fight Galleom (however it’s spelled). The hand thing kind of makes sense since he’s fought Eldritch horrors before, but Sonic’s main big bad is eggman. There are far more instances of him taking down big mechanical robots.
    It would also be cool to see a Snake route either based on the game MGS1 or just a highlight of iconic fights throughout the series (The Boss, Liquid, Ocelot in MGS4, etc). Snake’s classic mode theme was a lot of fun, but I think it would be cool to see this too. His original classic mode final boss can remain the same or serve as a penultimate depending

  • @sojiro10
    @sojiro10 Před 2 lety

    Your ideas are pretty cool, I wish those could be in the game

  • @alicewalker3600
    @alicewalker3600 Před 2 lety

    Having bowser Jr in Byleth's route actually works, in Mario+ Rabbids kingdom battle while on the phone with his dad junior says he finished his homework well most of it,Implying he goes to some kind of school

  • @shingosawatarihgx8345
    @shingosawatarihgx8345 Před 2 lety +6

    falco's classic mode was pretty lame. it was "soar above the darkness", and he fights dark characters. not only does it have nothing to do with falco as a character, but it was already done by other characters. instead, his classic mode should have been called "personally, I prefer the air", referencing his line in brawl, which it's self is a reference to star fox 64. in this route, all of falco's opponents would have wings and all the stages would take place high in the sky. he could fight pit and dark pit in skyworld, metaknight on the halberd, charizard on pokemon stadium 2's flight variant, duck hunt on pilot wings, ridley on corneria, then team up with fox and fight wolf on venom as a reference to star fox 64. and then the boss is rathalos, because rathalos has wings.

    • @theherohartmut
      @theherohartmut Před 2 lety

      Bayonetta's route already covers the winged characters theme.

  • @SuperJamz64
    @SuperJamz64 Před 2 lety

    "Master Byleth! There are too many of them! What are we going to do?"

  • @heroessquad2019
    @heroessquad2019 Před 2 lety +2

    We need a Classic Mode+ someday. Even though it might never happen, but I can still imagine.

  • @meteorain2940
    @meteorain2940 Před 2 lety

    "How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?!" -Byleth

  • @parasitone0814
    @parasitone0814 Před rokem

    I totally agree on what you said for the sephiroth final battle rework, however I also thought sephiroth could have as a full route of fighting off lab rats/abominations (Mewtwo, dark samus, meta ridley + a fight with a bunch of doctor Mario's as to make it seem like a science development team) and make it be called "Project JS training sim". That is my idea for the sephiroth rework route

  • @yvescajou8914
    @yvescajou8914 Před 2 lety

    Bro said "lemme make this grown man beat a bunch of children's ahh" lmao

  • @georgecortes3416
    @georgecortes3416 Před 2 lety

    In terms of changes I'd implement, I'd make Wario's final fight a Dr. Mario 64 reference where he fights Dr. Mario who becomes Metal Dr. Mario upon being KO'd and the same goes for Dr. Mario where he fights Wario who soon transitions into a fight against Dracula, referencing Vampire Wario. For Sonic, I'd make his final fight against Galleom since it's the closest to a mech Eggman would use against him and perhaps the Assist Trophies can be Knuckles & Shadow as well. Finally, if I could change Fox's final battle, I'd make it a Giant Green Charizard as a reference to his Subspace fight against Rayquaza or a 2 on 2 where he and Falco fight against Bowser and Giant Diddy Kong.

  • @JonathanDiaz08
    @JonathanDiaz08 Před 2 lety +1

    If we didn't use the dlc content my idea for Pokemon trainer would be to incorporate the legendary birds. This would be a 3 on 1 featuring 3 falco's or 3 king dedede's in there respective colors

  • @Swagpion
    @Swagpion Před 2 lety

    9:40, yes it does, this is the fight to determine the fate of the world (this is the case in like 70% of jrpgs) so it will be the final fight for both, ignoring post game of corse.

  • @Big-Image
    @Big-Image Před 2 lety +1

    For Shulk's Classic Mode Route, I would replace Mega Man with Galleom or Meta Ridley to represent Metal Face. Part of me wishes Metal Face was an actual boss.

  • @SuperCaptureDevice
    @SuperCaptureDevice Před 2 lety +1

    Sora being in Byleth’s Classic Mode doesn’t make sense since Sora was the last DLC character to come out after Byleth.

  • @nicksterdisneyandpixarclub
    @nicksterdisneyandpixarclub Před 5 měsíci +1

    9:59 Woody laugh 😂😂😂

  • @LordShonji
    @LordShonji Před 2 lety +1

    What's kinda funny about Corrin being there is that you can technically call their spear attack a Lance

  • @RFD1996
    @RFD1996 Před 2 lety

    I have a few ideas i had in mind for classic mode ideas. One was Fighting a giant Enderman in the Dive into the Heart Section with tiny Mr. Game and Watches with Fragments of Sorrow, referencing The beginning segment to The original Kingdom Heart tutorial.

    • @RFD1996
      @RFD1996 Před 2 lety

      Another was for Terry,a route based on his arcade run in the first Fatal Fury,with some ideas that plays on some of the later FF games. However given the set up,I couldn't make the order be exact with the actual run since we don't have all the tracks. But I can try to make it fit as a Fatal Fury Run. The Route of the name being called "Hey, Come On!" "Fatally Furious" Or "Let's Go to South Town".
      Stage 1:Blonde Alt Pit (Andy), Skyworld Omega (Looks like Italy I guess), Pasta (Andy's Stage theme)
      Stage 2:Yellow Alt Male Wii Fit Trainer (Joe Higashi), Kongo Jungle Omega (Close to his Stage), A New Poem that The South Thailand Wants to Tell (Joe's Stage Theme)
      Stage 3:3v3,Pit and Wii Fit help you in this fight (Team Southtown in KOF '94), Red Alt Kirby, Red Alt Sheik, Red Alt Greninja (Team Women Fighters Yuri, King, Mai), New Donk City Omega (It reminds me of the London stage from KOF 94), Ne! from KOF '94 (Their Team's theme.)
      Stage 4:Blue Alt Incineroar (Raiden), New Pork City Omega (Very close to his home stage), Tarkun and Pikun (Raiden's/Big Bear's Stage Theme)
      Bonus Stage
      Stage 5:King Dedede (The closest I could think of to reference Billy Kane), Moray Towers Omega (It's close to his home stage), London March (Billy's Stage Theme)
      Stage 6:Ganondorf or Kazuya (Geese Howard), Fourside Omega (Very close to Geese Tower besides New Donk City or Moray Towers. This stage just fits the almost end fight), Soy Sauce for Geese Fatal Fury Special (Geese's Stage Theme)
      Final Stage:Orange Alt Ryu,Yellow Alt Ken, or Mii Brawler with Ryo Sakasaki's Mii Outfit (Ryo Sakasaki's Secret Dream Match in Special), Mishima Dojo (Kyokyugen Dojo), Art of Fighting Ver 23000000. 0 (Ryo's Theme in FF Special)

  • @eldritchboi2695
    @eldritchboi2695 Před 2 lety +1

    Lucas' route should be a reference to chapter 7 of Mother 3, The Seven Needles
    Round 1: Giant Pink Yoshi on Luigi's Mansion, reference to Oh-So-Snake and Osohe Castle, the first needle's location
    Round 2: Bowser (or Ridley) on Distant Planet, reference to Ultimate Chimera and Murasaki Forest, the second needle's location
    Round 3: White Donkey Kong on Summit, reference to Steel Mechorilla and Snowcap Mountain, the third needle's location
    Round 4: Wario on Brinstar Depths, reference to New Fassad and Fire Mountain, the fourth needle's location
    Round 5: Three Robs on Spiral Mountain, reference to Barrier Trio and Tanetane Island, the fifth needle's location
    Round 6: Three Mii Gunners and Mega Man on Gerudo Valley, reference to Pigmasks, Masked Man and Argilla Pass, sixth needle's location
    Final Round: Against Mega Man, then Lucas with alternative costume similar to Claus on Northern Cave, reference to final fight against Masked Man and Cave of the Future, the last needle's location

  • @KenAgaro
    @KenAgaro Před 2 lety

    Aaronitmar: Everyone who wears glasses likes school, right?
    Me who wears glasses irl: *walks up to his window and opens it* NO!!!!! *close it back and walk away*

  • @MariuigiKhed
    @MariuigiKhed Před 2 lety

    Can I suggest a Luigi's Mansion based route: of course we can start with Kirbys rappresenting the Boos, then we can have a rappresentato for the ghost Boss (we could even go for the main bosses) from each game, like... A giant Ness for Chauncey, a giant purple Game and Watch for Boogmire, Robin for the Poltergeist, 5... I dunno... White Bayonettas for the Possessors, Ludwig for Amadeus Wolfgeist (get it, both named after musicians?), Wario rappresenting Ug, Piranha Plant as Fishook and a giant Kirby as King Boo.

  • @victorromero8010
    @victorromero8010 Před 2 lety +1

    One fix I would like to see to Classic Mode is the 3 2 1 Go opening countdown from VS mode. That's how 1P mode was in Smash 64 and I hate how so much was changed for the worse since Melee.

    • @TheKitKatThe
      @TheKitKatThe Před 2 lety

      not a fix just old

    • @victorromero8010
      @victorromero8010 Před 2 lety

      @@TheKitKatThe Well I want the old for consistency's sake!

    • @TheKitKatThe
      @TheKitKatThe Před 2 lety

      @@victorromero8010 things change it's pretty simple

  • @darc5925
    @darc5925 Před 2 lety

    I could see Bayonetta be remade where it's called "A Witch with No Memories"
    Round 1: Pit hoard on Umbran Clock Tower with the red and white bayo skin as an ally
    Round 2: Giant White DK on Reset Bomb Factory representing the Beloved enemies
    Round 3: Giant White Charizard on Norfair since Fortitudo can control lava
    Round 4: Gold Meta Knight on Umbran Clock Tower with the timer item spawning
    Round 5: Red and White Bayo on Fourside representing the final Jeanne Fight
    Round 6: Black suit Kazuya representing Rodin. If there's no DLC then white Bayo to rep Loptr
    Round 7: Same Giant Palutena

  • @victorhale
    @victorhale Před 2 lety

    To be fair…Pit is learning how to read those inputs XD.

  • @legomaster2538
    @legomaster2538 Před 11 měsíci

    One change I would make to Roy’s classic mode is make the route’s boss Ganon. Roy’s classic is titled *A Journey of Swords* so it would have been perfect for him to fight Ganon who uses two swords.

  • @dimitriwarchief301
    @dimitriwarchief301 Před 2 lety +1

    “We’re gonna make blyth a teacher so -“
    I think I like this guy already. His simple

  • @slateoffate9812
    @slateoffate9812 Před 2 lety

    For Meta Knight: Meta Knightmare Ultimate! Fighting characters that didn't debut in Kirby, but still have connections to Kirby, like Mario and Peach in Boxing Ring to reference Spring Breeze, Samus and ROB from Dream Land 3, Ness in Dream Land like in SSB64, and etc. The boss would be Master Hand and Crazy Hand, referencing their fight in Amazing Mirror.
    Dedede's would be called The Great King, referencing Bandee's nickname for him. He'd fight baddies like Bowser, Ganondorf, and Ridley, with their respective heroes fighting alongside Dedede.
    Lucina's could center around time travel, facing duos whose lives were greatly distanced, like Ness and Lucas or Richter and Simon, and characters with Sequel alts, like Cloud and Bayonetta.

  • @RetreoJosh
    @RetreoJosh Před 2 lety +2

    0:27 He's Hacking! He's Hacking!

  • @francisnguyen6349
    @francisnguyen6349 Před 2 lety

    Excellent job.

  • @martin.reviews
    @martin.reviews Před 2 lety

    Congrats on 250k