Marvel Legends SYMBIOTE SPIDER-MAN RETRO Black Suit Action Figure Review
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2022
- This may be the best Black Suit Spider-Man figure Hasbro has made but does that mean it's actually good based on its own merits or is it just good in comparison to mediocre, run-of-the-mill collectibles?
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I HATE!!! This body! Mainly because of the neck joint I have to fix myself on every repaint they do but also for all the reasons you listed.
Bad anatomy and worse articulation.
How do you fix it?
@@julianhayden9961 Had to Dremmel out the socket on the neck and install a new double ball joint.
Like the figure because of the character itself and for Legends it doesn't need too much paint as the black plastic could look like the sybiote. Mainly worried about it breaking as a more recent figure.
@@desert_hunter83 Thanks! If see him in store for about 25, will get as long as it isn't warped. Prefer to see this one in person.
At first I used to him that Anthony was too much nit picky. But slowly I realized that they are for our good. No other reviewer goes into the nooks and cranny. Now before buying any figure I wait for a review here before making any decisions. All I have to say is thank you for your honesty and helping us out... Also these issues that you point out many of us dont find at first but when in hand. So viewing is a must
Happy to help
hey! no action figure is perfect! get use to it, either you spend shit money or just hope for a better figure worth your money!
When it comes to the eyes and the hands, while they aren't comic accurate, they are accurate to the 90s cartoon, and as such I'm using this figure to represent that Spider-Man in my collection until the day comes where we get a proper figure of him.
Mafex got one coming out in a few months.
@@vadr6383 That one is based off of the comics, not the 90s cartoon.
@@xeanheart Exactly because the huge body is a bit muscular and the rectangular white mark on the whole hand indicates the shape of the cartoon, not the comic
Pretty much agree with you on everything,it is the best black suit but that aint saying much the other ones are just okay at best,as far as the body id be happy with a lil sculpt detail at least if they keep reusing it what i do hate is the stupid torso joint i hate breaking the spider like that having those 2 point pf articulation reversed would look and work so much better,same with the new venom thats coming out and i mention this every time.
Was looking forward to this review. Love ya content Anthony.
Thanks a lot
Love that you mentioned liking the source material on the card a lot more and the spikey design on the legs as opposed to the one they gave the figure. Ive always preferred that design myself and Mark Bagley has the best comic art imo of the symbiote spidey, venom and carnage. In all honesty im not excited about this figure after seeing reviews and what it turned out to be. If they had nailed that look on the card I wouldn't hesitate to buy.
Edit: articulation could also be much better im sure. my dream six inch version of this black suit spiderman would be the mcfarlane spiderman body maybe 10% more bulky with the bagley design
Definitely would love a better body or mods on this body-execute the double ball peg of the neck properly,remove that ugly cut behind his neck,add a waist cut,allow the drop down hips to have better rang, and lastly, add toe articulation (which they did with the upcoming Renew Your Vows 2-pack) for him to properly execute the 4 point crouch pose.
This body is fine for now and it’s certainly better than a lot of other Spider-Man bodies but if it’s ever redone I hope hasbro considers increasing elbow articulation, improving the double ball in the neck and replacing the ab crunch with another ball. Personally I really like the tasm 2 suit so if they include those features on the upcoming figure that would be a dream come true.
Thanks so much for your reviews and your honesty, I think I’m gonna switch my collection to Mafex going forward
This is my favorite Spider-Man and got 2 immediately. One to wear the joints out playing and posing and the other one as a back up.
Why got to love this channel over many others, brutal honestly on the figure…granted he stats very clearly this is the best version of the black suited symbiote spider man, then he tears it a new a-hole telling you what is so messed up with it and maybe how it should been made, but yet still better then the other ones out there so get it. No fluffing me up with oh this is the bomb, it’s perfect, blah blah blah, just the truth. It’s not perfect but best we got to this day so if want it get it otherwise hope for a better version in future.
I always appreciate the Photoshop sections because you perfectly capture what Hasbro SHOULD be capable of doing. I haven't gotten this Spider-Man or the first one with this body mold because at first glance, yeah they look fine but once you dig deep into them, the problems really start to stick out. And now that MAFEX announced their new repaint, there's no need to get these
You’re also comparing a 20-30 dollar figure to a 90-100 dollar figure but you are right
But not everyone has the budget for the Mafex tho…
This. This right here is the comment that constantly gets me. Obviously for $60+ you should get a better figure with Mafex ( In theory). Its like saying thats why I love my Benz over my Toyota. Yeah no shit
Thanks for the honest review
Seeing how this one is has me worried about the Spinneret 2-pack. It's already hard enough to find a Spidey msrp priced so I gotta make sure the one I get is good enough. Thanks for the review as always, great insight.
Can you explain why they do the swivel cut at the calf on these figures? I hate it. It’s like trying to achieve something the ankle should be able to do
Yup, another good one. Nice add-on to the Photoshop that you compared the silouettes all in black, that makes it very clear. It's still incredible we see Spider-Man figures that can't do the split xD
I agree with your critiques. He looks great with the poses you did though! Thank you for the excellent review and photoshop Anthony❣️😻😽
I kinda wish they would use a ball joint for the waist with the ball joint torso instead of ab crunch. I think that would give him the best articulation. Also, fix that double ball neck. Just as you say, large ball in the neck and not seated so deep in the neck.
Answering QOTD: I'm fine with this body, it's kinda one of their best.
The biggest problems tho are his weird engineering in neck area and shoulders being too low.
Thigh gap could be smalled too but other than that it's pretty much perfect buck for someone like Spider-Man or maybe Daredevil someday.
They should use the new Vulcan body for daredevil, since this one might be too small
@@pedrorosas3842 true, I'd want that scenario instead too but knowing Hasbro they might just reuse this one.
Personally I would add a balljointed waist to the crunch and upper balljoint, kinda like the toybiz spiderman. Because that would allow you to also twist the upper torso, making some kneeling hand-on-the-floor poses possible.
Or just do a double barbel upper and lower torso and take out the crunch, lol.
Damn, the photoshop always slaps you silly when you see it. I wish I could make the ML team take a good look at it. So yes, I definitely want a better Spidey mold.
I’m torn on the body, it is an upgrade but the head peg bugs the absolute hell out of me with the gaps.
Really wish they gave it a blue-ish tint or something. Like they did a while back with that Bullseye in the Man Thing Wave.
Is there any way to remove the figure from the packaging without damaging the retro card itself? Thanks.
I’ve seen shartimus cut the bottom out with an exacto. If you’re careful enough, you can probably make it somewhat collector friendly and be able to display on card again after taking it out
An X-acto knife
I showed this technique in one of the early ml retro reviews.
are you wanting to preserve the bubble as well, or just the card?
for the bubble, I use a knife to make a cut along the bottom, that way I can slide the plastic tray in or out, without hurting the look.
if all you want is the card, take a knife and (carefully) cut along the edge of the bubble, where it Meets the cardboard. do that all along the edges and just take the plastic off, and you'll have a nice card back without plastic! hope that helps. 😊
This
I dont mind it that much tbh since I preferred the romita-styled body, so seeing the black suit in the style makes me happy
mine has been on preorder and pushed back so many times idk if ill ever get one
Zup Anthony, I actually stop purchasing these marvel legends, and saving my money for a more high end one, not gonna pay $25 for the same, and not improved figure, thanks for the video 😎
Just patiently waiting on the Mafex version to release next month. Which will be the definitive black suit Spider-Man IMO. So yeah easy pass for me.
The hips don't lie!! I wish they would give us vertical hinge gripping hands for web swinging. Does anyone know if it is possible to add sculpt to the legs and shoulders, instead of having to kit-bash? Ive never tried and really never seen it b4. hopefully u just got a bad copy, this paint is hella sloppy, I have one on order from BBTS. I had the OG one when secret wars came out when I was a kid, I gave to my cousin. Haven't had once since and am hyped for this, but it is still disappointing.
from the comments im reading, my paint job is better than most.
Although the Eyes and Spider logo are nothing like what they're showing on the box art, it is comic accurate
(1st appearance wise).. Other than that, great review as always!
Nice review, much appreciated.
I agree on most all of your reasons and have basically quit collecting all Marvel Legends due to price point and the new packaging ordered 2 of the Wolverine animated series because wayched when was a kid but both copies came with a defective head sculpt so cancelled all my other orders may still get 1 copy of the rest of the main characters but only because of the fact I loved watching when was a kid. However I am only going to collect the Sh figuarts from now on or NECA, Hot Toys the real nice ones just cant see spending the money on Marvel Legends anymore just not enough there to really want me to get them all unfortunately
I love the articulation but the obliques on it don't give it that v taper so he comes off more blocky than a spiderman should I guess?
I actually really like this body. But always open to new moulds.
Really love your videos.
the poses you made look sick tho!
I really want this figure because it has the 1980s Secret Wars vibe with the small eyes for the black suit, But I would pick up the retro Ben Reilly Sensational Spider-Man because I don't have a super posable Spider-Man figure, Thank you for the video.
Hasbro need to hire you to design action figures!
Love the in depth review and yea personally definitely been disappointed by this release after getting it and feeling it out. Does not help that mine is loooooose.
How do you remove your figures out the packaging?
Cut a flap in the bottom of the outer blister
We can’t have a perfect figure it’s impossible like how there isn’t perfect people
I love this spider man it’s solid I have the mafex one too I feel honestly mafex did a great job but they need to beef him up a bit like this one
We love you brother
Marvels tentpole character...
Bad boys toys needs to ship this asap. Can't get a Mafex or a Mezco at a reasonable so this is what I have to contend with.
Agree with the shoulders, though on this body it isn't too obvious. However the Legends Wolverine has the much smaller shoulders compared to the arms. Like your reviews!
Thanks. At least with wolverine the small shoulders are needed to fit the shoulder pads.
Hasbro be tryna embrace that “spider geek” w every spidey release
I'm probably getting the Mafex release of the black suit Spidey.
I put a pre order in back in April I’m still waiting smh
I recommend you change his shoulders with the ml black panther shoulders
I’m only picking this up to have it on the card.
“SHOCKERRRRRR!!!!! YOU CANT ESCAPE ME!!!!!”
Need a brand new body for sure!! Shoulders should be slightly higher/broader...thighs should be way less muscular and less gappage between them...waist muscles less chunky also. Personally I'd even prefer a well designed ab-crunch which follows the lines of the ab muscles so not to look unsightly. Would be much better than a hideous diaphragm cut right across the center of the figure fgs!
I got a new still in packaging one and it had tons of paint mishaps with alot the spider logo missing legs lol
Had that happen to me on the back of the logo filled the missing lines in with a ball ink pen
@@MrLeerolljankins I used some white paint I usually use for D&D miniatures. It worked fine but still that initial dissapointment sucked
So i know this is late in the game this figure hacing come out a yr ago, but i saw on instragram someon had replaced the shoulders of this spiderman with those of the newer black panther comic version shoulders, the one black panther with the plastic cape and grey gloves and boots, so i did this swap and … i dont know if its anatomically correct, but to me, it looks a whooole lot better and my spider is Beefier looking as a result!
I'm sure it looks better. Send me a pic on social media
@@AnthonysCustoms will do
@@AnthonysCustoms sent on Instagram
Love your reviews and your honesty and you are right in what you say, you have always said that your job as reviewer is trying to save us money on bad figures this figure came out at least 3 months ago maybe more by the time of your review, all of us who wanted the figure already have it, whether it is good or bad I like your videos but most of the time your reviews are very late
That's not true. Other than when there are shipping delays, my reviews come out when the figures get released.
You know i buy my figures like any collector, right?
Yes you right, sometimes your reviews are late not always and I know you don’t get figures for free that’s why you’re the only one I trust when I want to buy a figure, you doing a great job 👍
Lol Anthony why did you delete my comment? The figure DID come out in February.
My figure’s torso isn’t sealed so if I were to bend him back or forward too far, he’ll fall apart. Had to display him immediately.
Took 3 figures to get decent paint apps on this one.
waiting on the Mafex version.
If Hasbro decided to spend money on a new mold why haven't they done it properly?
That is the million dollar question.
I100% agree with your critics, thanks for the review.
I like this buck for spiderman. But it could be a lot better if some things were retooled. The droopy shoulders bug me. And the neck joint is poorly done.
A new Spider-Man body with the mafex figure proportions would be great, the retro buck looks weird.
I’m fine with the body articulation besides maybe the elbows. For me the problems lies in the aesthetics. This is way to buff for me personally, and I prefer the skinnier look from the pizza Spider-Man, even though that molds articulation sucks. The retro mold is more romita inspired whereas I’d prefer something in the style of Mark Bagley or J. Scott Campbell.
Are the blacks the same? They look pretty different to me in the video. For example, the head looks very mat versus the body which looks very shiny
They're as "same" as any ml. Not perfect but not terrible. The pvc parts are less shiny than the hard parts.
Hate this mold, hate the drop down hips, they have never worked in my figures, lol.
Retro Spidey: Only one of the legs can move down, the other doesn't do anything.
Symbiote: Same issue as the retro.
Ben Reilly: Both of the legs seem to move down but they are basically stuck.
The old one reminds me of the McFarlane style black cloth suit tbh
I like the body just not the uppermost torso because I feel like the diaphragm, neck and arm joints could be so much better and the
I like how in past fan firsts the marvel team at hasbro talk about how they have the best engineers for their figures yet they couldn't go back on this mold and edit the hip articulation to make the legs do the splits. Even more so with that new U.S. Agent. That's pathetic.
i think they should make a spiderman body with a diaphragm and a ball joint at the waist, and they really need to fix the small shoulders on sunfire and instead use the comic shang chi or falcon shoulders
My favourite spiderman suit!
Does this figure have the magnets in the feet? If not can you provide a list of which ones do?
Watch the review
Seems to me it's just a sunfire body mold with re-tooling in the chest and torso.
The entire trunk is different
How to you take out the figure from the beautiful package without ruining it? 🤔
cut a flap at the bottom
the hands have longer rectangles to match the animated series.
What you said. I hate this spider man body, but is the best tho
Aside from the neck with the bad ball joint and proportions on the shoulders and waist. I like this body alot compared to the pizza spider-man body because the articulation in the hips are so much better
Not necessarily a new body, but I wish hasbro will incorporate toe articulation especially for an agile character like spiderman
But I do know that the new 2 pack spiderman set have toe articulation
I'm just waiting until he does more MK videos in the future
Very soon
Arnt we getting 2 new Spider-Man body molds soon? I really don’t like this mold.
As ugly as the neck is, I really wish they just shortened the peg. Raise the ball in the double dumbbell up to the top of the neck, widen the bar. It doest fully fix the ugliness, but it would both increase the range and reduce the risk of snapping. Like, that double bar bell scares the hell out of me given how thin and flexible it is. Don’t get me wrong, its a WAY more sturdy feeling plastic than the first one, but its still garbage and restricts range like crazy. With all things considered though, I’m happy with it. Way more so than the first Retro Spidey
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This was a cash grab, they knew people would buy this and only gave us the minimum accessories with the 3 sets of hands. They totally could have budgeted in some web lines.
Would also love an update video on your Rival Clans line, I know it's a slow process, but any updates would be nice.
Not gonna watch this vid cuz I like this figure and want to continue liking it. 🤣 But imma like n comment cuz you the man. I just don’t want the truth rn.
Lol
Did this figure come from BBTS??
Yes. Finally
@@AnthonysCustoms oh mine hasn’t come yet
The photoshop makes this Black Suit Spider-Man look way more intimidating than usual
Like Kraven when he borrowed the suit in Last Hunt.
Hasbro says thats its the black costume spiderman, so its ok if they put it on the worst body mold i will sell well.
I dont like this mold. The torso in particular I prefer the other way, hinge neck, diaphragm crunch, swivel waist. But I actually like this figure, being solid black fixes so many issues I had with the retro and the build feels more appropriate to the symbiote. The head is a push, it's fine. Even though the old sandman baf head looks out of scale for this body, it just looks aesthetic better especially in the eye shape. And yeah hand mark should be a trapezoid not a square. Overall, it'll be my black suit figure and there's some older accessories that look good with it like the bearded Peter head.
I am ok with this body, but it still does not feel ideal for a Spider-man. The arms cant reach higher without rotating either the shoulder joint or the bicep swivel. Those drop-down hinges in the hips do not provide any major help in the articulation.
Its 20 bucks. What do you expect? Sideshow?
1 they aren't 20 bucks. 2 this review wasn't about my expectations at all.
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I am okay with this body design, but the neck feels like such a rookie design. IDK who okayed that, and that would be something I would expect to see on a late 90's or early 00's figure. Terrible.
The small shoulder bothers me a little, but I like this body, and I would love to see a daredevil with the classic red suit in this body
I despise the legs, it doesn't make any sense for his quads to be that bulbous and warped and for the obliques to be that big it looks like abeer belly, this all feels like a design disaster
Hey
The neck on this Spider-Man body is completely trash. The new one hopefully is better
The body is not good. I remember when the original one hit with the new body. It's like they'll go one step forward, two step back. It's like... ok, sloppily implemented diaphragm joint. Cool. Cut the accessories in half. Do nothing with the hips. I bought it. Was so disappointed with the original, I gave the figure to a friend who couldn't find it and sold the rest of my Spiderman collection because they kept, purposefully, half-assing every figure. The stupid part is, people act like this figure is the second coming of Christ...
A lot of people do seem to be overly happy with it.
I personally feel the arms and legs of the body are fine but the torso needs some reworking in order to have more effective articulation.
I really enjoyed the body mold of the Spider Armor MK1 Spider-Man. I felt the body was most apporiate for Spidey. Maybe Hasbro can take inspiration from that mold and make an upgraded Pizza Spidey body with better articulation and more accessories as well, like alternate heads and web effects.
I saw this figure in the pegs, I knew it was going to be hard to get, I skipped it because I hated the retro one so much, terrible and so over rated.
Why the heck does he have thwip hands the webline comes from on top of the fist out of the white rectangle part. His thighs are to big and the white spider logo needs to come down to allow for the spiders mandibles.
Because in the comics, after he got rid of the alien suit, Black Cat gave him a cloth version of the black suit, but with that one he obviously needed his web shooters, so he was still doing the twipping pose to shoot his webs.
This body is a few changes away from being "perfect" (for a marvel legends)
Im happy with this figure as well and the Ben Riley figure