+Kathryn Crumbaker I collect old Dietz and Embury wick lanterns and railroad lanterns as well as Colemans. They remind me of the very good times we had camping in the 1950's at Sequoia National Park when I was a kid. The memories come flooding back! Pop had a Coleman 220 that he hot rodded and it put out the brightest light of any of the campers. I ran it about a week ago on my roof deck for a pizza feed. He would have been 96. It gives me great pleasure to keep his favorite lantern running. The other thing about Coleman pressure lanterns is that they are dated on the bottom of the fuel font. Pop's was dated 6-50, June 1950. One look at the date and I realize how much the world has changed.
+kimmer6 that's a great story. it is a pleasure maintaining these lanterns. they have a lot of history and are superbly made by Americans and our brethren to the north. truly built to last
Thanks for this video😁. I just acquired two 639s from a yard sale,(one is nickel CP Rail model) for $10 each... now i know how to light them👍🏽👍🏽; going to try them out this weekend.
No sweat. While not as highly prized as some the 288 is an extremely good lantern. They are as reliable as any lantern ever made. Take to kero conversions well and are bright for their size. I will be posting a how to video on how to rebuild generators soon. So your 288 kero can run for a really long time before replacing the generator. Stay tuned for that video. It'll be a good one. And I think ill have the only one on you tube.
I've been watching Old Sneelocks Workshop and he's been cleaning and doing maintenance on a couple of old Colemans. I had 2 I wiped off and put up a few years ago and he gave me the itch to see just what was what. I ended up with a 220F that needs a check valve and mantels and a kerosene 237 that needs an alcohol bottle and mantles. I also have had the old standby 425B stove for over 20 years that starts and runs like a new one and a 441C dual Fuel that is almost brand new. I'll stay with Coleman products from now on. Can't beat the HSSSS around the campfire at night. Thanks for the video. I thought I knew how to light the kerosene light but it helps to see really how to do it. I like L.E.D.'s in the shop but Coleman out in the bushes.
these liquid fuel appliances are so easy to maintain and so cheap to fuel they are still in my opinion the best option for lighting at camp. I may ge biased but I truly believe it.
Truth will stand on it's own little flat feet. I wish I still had my Dads coleman stove he had in WW-2. It hadn't been fired up since then and I took it out and it lit right up after 25 years or so with the gas that was in it. Try that with an l.e.d.
I just did a kerosene conversion on one of my 288 lanterns just like the one you have all the way to the left. It was super easy and easily reversible. You should check it out!
That'll just about do it haha. Consider shopping at oldcolemanparts its online and the owner is the man tell him Dylan sent ya. If you like these type videos consider dropping a like or subscribing Thanks and have a good one
coleman does make a case that should fit this model if you go to their website and go to lantern accessories you will see a black case it is 24.99 and fits larger style lanterns. I have not tried it personally as i make my own cases out of wood and foam inserts. You may want to call coleman to confirm fitment. As far as mantles are concerned this model requires the number 11 mantle. The 21 mantle is too small and would create an over flame issue. These mantles are not currently available locally so most likely you will have to buy them online. I recommend oldcolemanparts . com to get peerless mantles. They are brighter than the coleman counterparts and much more durable. Have a good one.
Cool! I'll be watching for it. I plan on keeping this one lantern set up for kerosene, but I'm obtaining the parts to convert the other two in case of a prolonged disaster. I've been amassing repair parts for all of my campstoves and lanterns. Have you ever had to replace a check valve? I was thinking about picking a couple of those up. They're cheap enough... But the tool is a little pricey.
I have never had to replace a check valve. But I have had to pull them out and give them a soak in carb cleaner. I will say the tool is worth its weight in gold. Its pricey. I agree. But each one is hand made by one of the members of the iccc. I have right around thirty gas pressure appliances. Lanterns, stoves, etc. Ive had to pull the cv on probably ten of them. If I was goin for being totally prepared in an emergency a check valve removal tool would be on my list for sure.
I heard your comment about fuel cost, Coleman fuel vs kerosene. However I have another question. Say you have two lanterns, 1 Lantern is filled with Coleman white fuel and the other lantern is filled with kerosene. Say that both lanterns held the same capacity of fuel and you let both lanterns at the same time, which Lantern would stay lit longer?
well a lot of factors come into play. different oriface sizes, tank capacity and so on. however if all things were considered equal each lantern were 100 percent equal. a kero lantern would burn longer than Coleman fuel. it comes down to energy. kero has more energy than coleman fuel.
5:12 I felt like I was watching a nuke! That lantern is fantastic! I have 2 dual fuels, but now I need 2 or 3 of these! I love kerosene. It’s so much cheaper and safer than white gas
My dad passed away a few years ago. He loved camping and I remember these lanterns going when I was a kid. He has several of these which take the Coleman fuel but he also has one like this that uses Kerosene. This may be a dumb question but can I use K1 Kerosene from my local gas station in this?..or is it better to use store purchased Kerosene?
Would be nice to not have to keep matches.... Can the alcohol be lit with a coleman spark ignitor??? I'm new to collecting. I have a 242c ordered and I'm thinking about converting it.
Yo knew I should have picked up a couple of the 214 lanterns before they were discontinued. I already have 4 of the 288 coleman fuel models. The 214 used the same globes... And to my understanding the same mantles and the same case. That's a big deal to me since I have a decent stock of those items on hand. Oh well.
well if it makes you feel any better all you need t do to make your 288 burn kerosene is pre heat the generator with a torch and it will burn kerosene just fine. The 214 was a bit of a dog lantern. It wasn't super bright and was finicky to get going well. I would suggest if you wanted to make a dedicated kerosene burning lantern convert one of your 288's. Add a 201 preheat cup made of copper. And follow the procedures of this video and your 288 will be good to go. 288 generators are still available cheap and the fuel savings over coleman fuel would be pretty good. even if you had to replace a generator every 20 or 30 founts full. or better yet learn to rebuild them. Its super easy and ill have a vid up soon on how to do it. Have a good one.
Well could be a few things...firstly make sure you are burning the mantles in correctly their are a few videos on youtube describing how to install a mantle. Secondly when you first turn the lantern on open the valve slowly dont just crank it open. And thirdly and probably the reason this is happening is Coleman mantles generally kinda suck. Try the peerless brand from mike over at old Coleman parts
Us fire heads like fire and analog light not the alien light of LED.. I use LED head lamps and small flashlights I use the UCO candle lantern in my tent to keep the condensation down and thus keep a decent environment inside the tent dry during mid fall on to late spring. this keeps the chill down as well. Car camping emergency light Coleman. A can of White gas will outlast any battery even rechargeable. A well stored moth balled Coleman will fire right up after sitting for 30+ years. Backpacking or camping off the Motorcycle Snow Peak Gigga lamp with one canister of fuel last me a five nights. Nothing wrong with LED it's a thing of we like old tech while hissing away and the glow of the mantle.
The only dislike I have with kerosene is having to carry something extra. By that I mean the bottle to fill the cup. I dont want to get to my fishing spot and realize I forgot that bottle then tear it down and have to use some fuel out of the lantern to preheat. Which you're probably not supposed to do but that's what I would do.
They are very simple. pressure is added to a tank which forces kerosene through a small hole. Turning it into a vapor and making it ignitable. The mantle is composed of rare earth metals that glow when heated. And that's really about it.
+XxKnivesNGunsxX LOL, Great internal antiseptic, too ....It can turn a shitty day into something to smile about. I might become a prepper. A couple of cases of that stuff should be great barter material when the doo doo hits the propeller.
if your stomach can survive it, always just scoured out my stomach, not like the 80 proof stuff. I remember fooling around with white gas as a kid in the '60's and switched over to propane and wouldn't go back. And what is this pre-heating stuff about, I never did that.
We had those when our place were without electricity and running water yet. Now it became a fucking city, traffic and noise and the fields became concrete jungle 😠😠
Could anybody tell me why those lamps are still usable? They are hot, dangerous, not good for use in tents, the white net eventually falls apart and it's expensive. Today we have LED lamps that produce better light, have infinite life, are cool, energy-efficient, bright, safe. Is there any advantage gas laps have?
Well yes they actually have tons of use. First thing you mentioned is heat. A downside to some a pro to others. Your power is off and its 10 degrees out. I would rather hover around the 10000 btu mini furnace than the led "lantern". Second is safety. While some precautions need to be required having a kerosene lantern burning is no more dangerous than a couple candles burning. burning. Even if there is a kerosene spill it's likelihood of catching fire is almost nill. Kerosene is much less volatile than gasoline or coleman fuel. The little bags you mentioned are called mantles. They can and do last for years and can last for pretty much ever if you don't bang the lantern around. If they do break they are quite easy to replace and cost less than 2 bucks for 4 of them. Let's talk economy for a minute. This kerosene. It's 4.00 a gallon this lantern will burn over 6 hours non stop on 2 pints. That's roughly 24 hours of constant extremely bright(much brighter than led) light. A plus to this is it doesn't need recharged just a quick refill less than 2 minutes and its ready again. Then there's reliability. These lanterns last...and last......and well they last.. I have videos on lanterns that have been around since world war 2 and they still operate perfectly with almost no maintenance. Led lanterns would be long dead before that simply due to there batteries and relatively cheap construction Rechargeable batteries have a relatively short lifespan. Maybe 500 charges before becoming pretty much useless. Operating conditions are also to be considered. These lanterns work in every condition known on earth. Is it negative 40 and snowing Yep no problem. Is it 120 and raining yep. No sweat. Try getting your led lantern wet a few times. Even (waterproof) ones fail. You are correct however on inside the tent use. I don't recommend this lantern be used in the tent. An led of some sort would be adequate there.
Also the cost difference between the two upon initial purchase is simple. One is made of plastic in China. And the other is still made of steel in Wichita Kansas by Americans. One of these could be used a lifetime and be passed and used another lifetime. And I'll give a hint. Is the one that runs on kerosene
+WeAreThey I haven't measured it with a measurement instrument, but I owned exactly the gas lantern in that clip, and I also own LED lanterns and my LED lanterns are way better. My LED lanterns seem to give good amount of light, are safe, last longer, no recurring cost except of recharging batteries, and the light is white and not yellow. And no noise either. I see zero advantage in gas lanterns. I understand that people are nostalgic and prefer old ways they know already.
+Andy Hoffman Firstly they don't last longer. No LED lantern can put off an equal abount of lumens this 500 cp beast can put off for the same run time. This runs off kero for 6 hours with no degradation in lighting. the highest rated lead lantern I found is at 150 lumens(that's pretty bright) for 2.5 hours. Then you have to replace the expensive CR123 batteries(ouch) or buy some 18650s with protection circuits built in. Or wait for the 18650s to recharge. I don't want to depend on electricity for my outdoor lighting needs. that's the point point of being outdoors. I don't want to run inside and hook my lantern up to the socket. I want to refill with fuel taking about 2 mins and have light again. As far as yellow light on these models. Try peerless mantles. They are super cheap more durable and put off a super white light compared to the wal Mart special mantles haha
+XxKnivesNGunsxX I hope you didn't take my remarks personally. That was certainly not my intention. I should have said too expensive for me. I'm retired with zero liquid cash flow.
Joe Sanders no offense taken. I can definitely understand when pricing doesn't appeal to somebody. I would never pay 150 for a coach wallet no matter the quality. But I'd spend 150 on a gransfors bruks axe any day. Different strokes for different folks.
I love lamps like these, they make you feel connected to the world again.
their is definitely something special about carrying a portable sun around.
+Kathryn Crumbaker
I collect old Dietz and Embury wick lanterns and railroad lanterns as well as Colemans. They remind me of the very good times we had camping in the 1950's at Sequoia National Park when I was a kid. The memories come flooding back!
Pop had a Coleman 220 that he hot rodded and it put out the brightest light of any of the campers. I ran it about a week ago on my roof deck for a pizza feed. He would have been 96. It gives me great pleasure to keep his favorite lantern running.
The other thing about Coleman pressure lanterns is that they are dated on the bottom of the fuel font. Pop's was dated 6-50, June 1950. One look at the date and I realize how much the world has changed.
+kimmer6 that's a great story. it is a pleasure maintaining these lanterns. they have a lot of history and are superbly made by Americans and our brethren to the north. truly built to last
Thanks for this video😁. I just acquired two 639s from a yard sale,(one is nickel CP Rail model) for $10 each... now i know how to light them👍🏽👍🏽; going to try them out this weekend.
Heck of a find some of my favorites
Thanks for encouraging me to do the conversion .
No sweat. While not as highly prized as some the 288 is an extremely good lantern. They are as reliable as any lantern ever made. Take to kero conversions well and are bright for their size. I will be posting a how to video on how to rebuild generators soon. So your 288 kero can run for a really long time before replacing the generator. Stay tuned for that video. It'll be a good one. And I think ill have the only one on you tube.
I've been watching Old Sneelocks Workshop and he's been cleaning and doing maintenance on a couple of old Colemans. I had 2 I wiped off and put up a few years ago and he gave me the itch to see just what was what. I ended up with a 220F that needs a check valve and mantels and a kerosene 237 that needs an alcohol bottle and mantles. I also have had the old standby 425B stove for over 20 years that starts and runs like a new one and a 441C dual Fuel that is almost brand new. I'll stay with Coleman products from now on. Can't beat the HSSSS around the campfire at night. Thanks for the video. I thought I knew how to light the kerosene light but it helps to see really how to do it. I like L.E.D.'s in the shop but Coleman out in the bushes.
these liquid fuel appliances are so easy to maintain and so cheap to fuel they are still in my opinion the best option for lighting at camp. I may ge biased but I truly believe it.
Truth will stand on it's own little flat feet. I wish I still had my Dads coleman stove he had in WW-2. It hadn't been fired up since then and I took it out and it lit right up after 25 years or so with the gas that was in it. Try that with an l.e.d.
I just did a kerosene conversion on one of my 288 lanterns just like the one you have all the way to the left. It was super easy and easily reversible. You should check it out!
Did you make a video? Do you have a link?
Nicely Done, Best Video on YT for Setting up Coleman Kerosene Lantern. Thanks
Thank you. And your welcome!
I always wondered how these worked on kerosene. Thanks for sharing. I want to find one!
Thanks very much - good job - I'm ready to give mine a go. Always had white gas . . . but no question, that stuff can be dangerous.
Great presentation.
Thanks much
gr8 video..thx for posting...very helpfull
So kerosene generate less smoke.. nice.. I've learn a few thing from this vid..
Cool thanks for the reply!! Maybe I'll pick up some preheat cups, generators and alcohol bottles!
That'll just about do it haha. Consider shopping at oldcolemanparts its online and the owner is the man tell him Dylan sent ya. If you like these type videos consider dropping a like or subscribing Thanks and have a good one
nice would you use this inside of a house for emergency lighting purpose .
nice found one dads shed cleaning out how long do they go for on a tank of fuel thanks for the vid know how to light it now
it's nice man! thx!
Do they make a plastic Sade for that model? Also does it take the #21 mantles?
coleman does make a case that should fit this model if you go to their website and go to lantern accessories you will see a black case it is 24.99 and fits larger style lanterns. I have not tried it personally as i make my own cases out of wood and foam inserts. You may want to call coleman to confirm fitment. As far as mantles are concerned this model requires the number 11 mantle. The 21 mantle is too small and would create an over flame issue. These mantles are not currently available locally so most likely you will have to buy them online. I recommend oldcolemanparts . com to get peerless mantles. They are brighter than the coleman counterparts and much more durable. Have a good one.
Cool! I'll be watching for it. I plan on keeping this one lantern set up for kerosene, but I'm obtaining the parts to convert the other two in case of a prolonged disaster. I've been amassing repair parts for all of my campstoves and lanterns. Have you ever had to replace a check valve? I was thinking about picking a couple of those up. They're cheap enough... But the tool is a little pricey.
I have never had to replace a check valve. But I have had to pull them out and give them a soak in carb cleaner. I will say the tool is worth its weight in gold. Its pricey. I agree. But each one is hand made by one of the members of the iccc. I have right around thirty gas pressure appliances. Lanterns, stoves, etc. Ive had to pull the cv on probably ten of them. If I was goin for being totally prepared in an emergency a check valve removal tool would be on my list for sure.
I heard your comment about fuel cost, Coleman fuel vs kerosene. However I have another question. Say you have two lanterns, 1 Lantern is filled with Coleman white fuel and the other lantern is filled with kerosene. Say that both lanterns held the same capacity of fuel and you let both lanterns at the same time, which Lantern would stay lit longer?
well a lot of factors come into play. different oriface sizes, tank capacity and so on. however if all things were considered equal each lantern were 100 percent equal. a kero lantern would burn longer than Coleman fuel. it comes down to energy. kero has more energy than coleman fuel.
5:12
I felt like I was watching a nuke!
That lantern is fantastic! I have 2 dual fuels, but now I need 2 or 3 of these!
I love kerosene. It’s so much cheaper and safer than white gas
My dad passed away a few years ago. He loved camping and I remember these lanterns going when I was a kid. He has several of these which take the Coleman fuel but he also has one like this that uses Kerosene. This may be a dumb question but can I use K1 Kerosene from my local gas station in this?..or is it better to use store purchased Kerosene?
K-1 from the gas station is good to go as long as its not colored
Would be nice to not have to keep matches.... Can the alcohol be lit with a coleman spark ignitor???
I'm new to collecting. I have a 242c ordered and I'm thinking about converting it.
I've lot em with fero rods so I'd imagine the spark ignitor would work if you could get it close enough
I have a question? Are you can able to refill the kerosene while is on your lantern?
No. Do not refill when the lantern is still hot. Wait for it to cool then refill.
Nice !
How much fuel does the kerosene lantern burn compared to the dual fuel? Same runtime on each?
About the same.
Yo knew I should have picked up a couple of the 214 lanterns before they were discontinued. I already have 4 of the 288 coleman fuel models. The 214 used the same globes... And to my understanding the same mantles and the same case. That's a big deal to me since I have a decent stock of those items on hand. Oh well.
well if it makes you feel any better all you need t do to make your 288 burn kerosene is pre heat the generator with a torch and it will burn kerosene just fine. The 214 was a bit of a dog lantern. It wasn't super bright and was finicky to get going well. I would suggest if you wanted to make a dedicated kerosene burning lantern convert one of your 288's. Add a 201 preheat cup made of copper. And follow the procedures of this video and your 288 will be good to go. 288 generators are still available cheap and the fuel savings over coleman fuel would be pretty good. even if you had to replace a generator every 20 or 30 founts full. or better yet learn to rebuild them. Its super easy and ill have a vid up soon on how to do it. Have a good one.
What about ether
I ordered a new one from Coleman. It has blown out both of the mantles, nickel sized hole in them. What am I doing wrong?
Well could be a few things...firstly make sure you are burning the mantles in correctly their are a few videos on youtube describing how to install a mantle. Secondly when you first turn the lantern on open the valve slowly dont just crank it open. And thirdly and probably the reason this is happening is Coleman mantles generally kinda suck. Try the peerless brand from mike over at old Coleman parts
Both mantles???? Coleman kerosene lanterns have only ONE MANTLE.!!! Did you use kerosene in a white gas Lantern? Can't do.
Us fire heads like fire and analog light not the alien light of LED..
I use LED head lamps and small flashlights I use the UCO candle lantern in my tent to keep the condensation down and thus keep a decent environment inside the tent dry during mid fall on to late spring. this keeps the chill down as well.
Car camping emergency light Coleman.
A can of White gas will outlast any battery even rechargeable.
A well stored moth balled Coleman will fire right up after sitting for 30+ years.
Backpacking or camping off the Motorcycle Snow Peak Gigga lamp with one canister of fuel last me a five nights.
Nothing wrong with LED it's a thing of we like old tech while hissing away and the glow of the mantle.
The only dislike I have with kerosene is having to carry something extra. By that I mean the bottle to fill the cup. I dont want to get to my fishing spot and realize I forgot that bottle then tear it down and have to use some fuel out of the lantern to preheat. Which you're probably not supposed to do but that's what I would do.
This lantern would mimic a nice little cooker. :)
At one time coleman offered a cooker that fit to the top of the lantern. Haven't seen them in quite awhile though.
@@XxKnivesNGunsxX I meant you can turn this lantern into a cooker. Be creative. :)
I heard u can mix kerosine to Coleman fuel 80/20
how do these work?.
They are very simple. pressure is added to a tank which forces kerosene through a small hole. Turning it into a vapor and making it ignitable. The mantle is composed of rare earth metals that glow when heated. And that's really about it.
We need to put spirit? ?
why put spirit? it burns hot enough to pre heat kero
+XxKnivesNGunsxX
I preheat my 639C with Bacardi 151 rum. Some for me, some for the preheat cup. Pretty soon we're both toasted.
+kimmer6 lmao dude that's great...well the other food news that 151 makes a kickass antiseptic and pain reliever in an emergency as well
+XxKnivesNGunsxX
LOL, Great internal antiseptic, too ....It can turn a shitty day into something to smile about.
I might become a prepper. A couple of cases of that stuff should be great barter material when the doo doo hits the propeller.
if your stomach can survive it, always just scoured out my stomach, not like the 80 proof stuff. I remember fooling around with white gas as a kid in the '60's and switched over to propane and wouldn't go back. And what is this pre-heating stuff about, I never did that.
We had those when our place were without electricity and running water yet. Now it became a fucking city, traffic and noise and the fields became concrete jungle 😠😠
Huh? You don’t need alcohol.
You do on kerosene lanterns. Unless you use somthing else to pre heat the generator
Plastic case.
Could anybody tell me why those lamps are still usable?
They are hot, dangerous, not good for use in tents, the white net eventually falls apart and it's expensive.
Today we have LED lamps that produce better light, have infinite life, are cool, energy-efficient, bright, safe.
Is there any advantage gas laps have?
Well yes they actually have tons of use. First thing you mentioned is heat. A downside to some a pro to others. Your power is off and its 10 degrees out. I would rather hover around the 10000 btu mini furnace than the led "lantern". Second is safety. While some precautions need to be required having a kerosene lantern burning is no more dangerous than a couple candles burning. burning. Even if there is a kerosene spill it's likelihood of catching fire is almost nill. Kerosene is much less volatile than gasoline or coleman fuel. The little bags you mentioned are called mantles. They can and do last for years and can last for pretty much ever if you don't bang the lantern around. If they do break they are quite easy to replace and cost less than 2 bucks for 4 of them. Let's talk economy for a minute. This kerosene. It's 4.00 a gallon this lantern will burn over 6 hours non stop on 2 pints. That's roughly 24 hours of constant extremely bright(much brighter than led) light. A plus to this is it doesn't need recharged just a quick refill less than 2 minutes and its ready again. Then there's reliability. These lanterns last...and last......and well they last.. I have videos on lanterns that have been around since world war 2 and they still operate perfectly with almost no maintenance. Led lanterns would be long dead before that simply due to there batteries and relatively cheap construction Rechargeable batteries have a relatively short lifespan. Maybe 500 charges before becoming pretty much useless. Operating conditions are also to be considered. These lanterns work in every condition known on earth. Is it negative 40 and snowing Yep no problem. Is it 120 and raining yep. No sweat. Try getting your led lantern wet a few times. Even (waterproof) ones fail. You are correct however on inside the tent use. I don't recommend this lantern be used in the tent. An led of some sort would be adequate there.
Also the cost difference between the two upon initial purchase is simple. One is made of plastic in China. And the other is still made of steel in Wichita Kansas by Americans. One of these could be used a lifetime and be passed and used another lifetime. And I'll give a hint. Is the one that runs on kerosene
+Andy Hoffman I have yet to see any LED light that comes close to one of these Coleman lanterns.
+WeAreThey
I haven't measured it with a measurement instrument, but I owned exactly the gas lantern in that clip, and I also own LED lanterns and my LED lanterns are way better.
My LED lanterns seem to give good amount of light, are safe, last longer, no recurring cost except of recharging batteries, and the light is white and not yellow. And no noise either.
I see zero advantage in gas lanterns. I understand that people are nostalgic and prefer old ways they know already.
+Andy Hoffman Firstly they don't last longer. No LED lantern can put off an equal abount of lumens this 500 cp beast can put off for the same run time. This runs off kero for 6 hours with no degradation in lighting. the highest rated lead lantern I found is at 150 lumens(that's pretty bright) for 2.5 hours. Then you have to replace the expensive CR123 batteries(ouch) or buy some 18650s with protection circuits built in. Or wait for the 18650s to recharge. I don't want to depend on electricity for my outdoor lighting needs. that's the point point of being outdoors. I don't want to run inside and hook my lantern up to the socket. I want to refill with fuel taking about 2 mins and have light again. As far as yellow light on these models. Try peerless mantles. They are super cheap more durable and put off a super white light compared to the wal Mart special mantles haha
Nice lanterns. Way too expensive.
to each their own I suppose I don't think 80 dollars for an American made lifetime tool is too expensive but that's me :)
+XxKnivesNGunsxX I hope you didn't take my remarks personally. That was certainly not my intention. I should have said too expensive for me. I'm retired with zero liquid cash flow.
Joe Sanders no offense taken. I can definitely understand when pricing doesn't appeal to somebody. I would never pay 150 for a coach wallet no matter the quality. But I'd spend 150 on a gransfors bruks axe any day. Different strokes for different folks.
gr8 video..thx for posting...very helpfull
Your welcome