Unveiling the Truth: Eternal Suffering in Hell - Fact or Fiction?
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Dive into the controversial topic of the existence of Hell and the concept of eternal punishment in this eye-opening video. Join us as we explore the age-old question - Is Hell Real? Uncover the shocking truth behind the idea of eternal suffering in Hell and decide for yourself whether it's fact or fiction. Get ready to challenge your beliefs and explore a topic that has intrigued and divided people for centuries. Don't miss out on this thought-provoking discussion!
Helpful study. The message convinced me that I should be baptized and join a SDA Church.
Amen!! We're not perfect. Don't ever let people's poor representation of Christ turn you away from God or biblical truth. This is one of Satan's biggest traps. Welcome to the family! May God bless you!!
Amen
Amen!
SDA is a cult.
@@AJvictors - Inspired, heartfelt, interesting. (Excellent comment, in other words :) )
This study upsets many Christians because that is not what they had been taught in the church they belong to. In fact, some of them will refuse to read the Bible for themselves for fear of being proven wrong.
Thanks Pastor Boonstra for this great study.
Eternal Hell fire is the height of Satanic lies, and the God of Creation is not heartless , and evil!! Even destroying the wicked is a strange act for God's character!! Thanks for sharing!!
Amen🙏🏼
The wicked would become ashes under the feet of the righteous. (Malachi ch. 4 v 1-3.)
"To will" become ashes under the feet of the righteous.
Shawn, I found Authentic about a year ago and your insight has changed the way I read the Bible. I am more confident in my witnessing because you have shown me how to make disputable texts undisputable. Thank you for all you do for so many of us.
I want to love God for His goodness, not out of fear of eternal torment in hell.
So true and perfect this truth brought me into the Adventist Christian faith. In my simple mind I would think why would God start burning say an 18 yr old who rejected him say during the flood, he’s been burning all these years and satan hasn’t started? And we call God fair and Just? I share this with my Christian brothers and they tell me God can do what he wants because he is God. Do yourself a favor. Grab some paper and go through ever text and right them down, compare. It’s so obvious God will destroy evil. I had a bad accident, was in the hospital for a long time with Morphine straight into my arm. I was in SO much pain! I would lay there and think, They say God will do this for ETERNITY!!!! FOREVER. People don’t stop to think, really think. They listen to some person but don’t don’t a real bible search..God is GOOD all the Time. Praise Him. He will stop evil someday and we have a choice to be with him
One of the best explanation I've heard....Happy Sabbath
So refreshing to hear this. As a young child I never felt comfortable in a church enviroment because of misguided idiots within a congregation. When I got older I started questioning things that didnt make sense. Today I can easily detect people like that. Just because someone says its so does not necessarily mean that it is. We were given a brain for multiple reasons not just one.
Anyone I've ever seen defend eternal torment did it from a place of feeling they'd never experience it. Seeing someone burned alive in real life is beyond horrifying, I can't imagine it forever.
You don't know who is God, my friend.
You don't know.
So U think GOD is that sadistic (its even an understatement) to punish the unsaved for all eternity without end with such a horrific & unprecented kind of torture? The Bible itself suggest that only few of humans that have ever existed in planet earth (meaning even dating back to Adam ,& Eve) will be saved. What does that tell us? That majority of all mankind since the first human beings that walked the earth, are hell-bound. Anybody can go to hell. Your father or mother, your siblings, your wife or husband, your sons or daughters, your best friends, anybody that you love. Do U imagine that some of them will be tormented endlessly in hell? That's the problem with some people - they oversimplify such a sensitive topic/matter without really realising how horrific the theory that they want to believe.
Didn’t God say that if you sin you will surely die? Look in the dictionary for the word death. It says to no longer exist. And, how many times do us people use the expression “forever” for something that we know will NOT last forever. The Bible uses the same expressions. Add this to everything Pastor Shawn said & then you “got” it!
Agree sir. More often the word forever is used as a figure of speech to depict a period of time that is so long but it does not in any way means endless.
Thank you Pastor Shawn
I've had your book and a couple more for a long time. I found them well written and filled with truth.
Wow there's no truth better than this , unlocking the signes is also very helpful
Thank you ❤
Very interesting program. 🙏 I recomend it strongly to everyone!
Makes so much sense...
Well elaborated message, thanks Shawn.
Thank you for your clear explanation. God bless
Thankyou for Sharing.
Awesome explanation
Excellent. Well organized. I've often struggled to break this study into simple enough steps to share it effectively. This was organized well enough, that I think I can get there now.
Hi, and the other passages, in the New Testament, that say: [...] the fire of hell that NEVER goes out/is NEVER quenched/Extinguished.
It actually means it burns until nothing is left. Sodom was also burned in eternal fire.
@@lisadavis4834 no it does not
@@ivanhuertas5307Yes it does. Sodom is not still burning today.
Great video! Keep giving people Bible truth 🙏
I would also point out that when you die, the body returns back to the ground and the Spirit (life) returns back to the Giver (God).
Should the last part of the sentence read - "...and the Spirit (breath) returns back to the Giver..." ?
@@noraenssor
Yes, you are correct but also see John 6:63: It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they.are life".❤
@@noraenssor
Yes, you are correct but also see John 6:63: "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they.are life".❤
thank you
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and sulfer, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Rev20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Yes, this is the truth.
A well-balanced presentation 🤓.
The wages of sin is DEATH but the gift of God is ETERNAL LIFE through Christ. Clearly, eternal life is only promised to the righteous while DEATH is promised to the wicked. To say the wicked roast in hell forever means they also experience eternal life although in hell. You either PERISH or have everlasting life--not burn forever
That’s not what the Word says, that’s what you want it to say, I pray that your eyes will be open before it’s too late 😢
@@augustcarvalho2162 I think this applies to you. When you read about eternal or everlasting fire, you use your own understanding instead of allowing the Bible to explain itself. The Bible explains eternal fire as what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah (Jude 1:7). If we go by your understanding of eternal fire, then Sodom and Gomorrah will still be burning today. However, the Bible shows that eternal fire means fire that has eternal or everlasting consequences, since these cities have been destroyed forever and can never be rebuilt. There are two options, you either PERISH OR have ETERNAL LIFE (John 3:16). To say people will live in hell forever means they will also have eternal life (albeit in hell). God will destroy both body and soul in hell (Matt 10:28). Study this a bit further please. It is not as simple as you think. May God be with you.
@@markowusu6511 I agree that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed but I disagree that Sodom was destroyed forever. Concerning Sodom, God says, in Ezekiel 16:53, "“I will restore their fortunes, both the fortunes of Sodom and her daughters, and the fortunes of Samaria and her daughters, and I will restore your own fortunes in their midst,." Sodom will be restored after being eternally destroyed. Sometimes in the Bible "eternal" doesn't mean what we think it means.
@@alwaysadawg6488 It is normal to disagree Bro. So how do you explain Jude 1:7 and 2 Peter 2:6 regarding the final fate of the wicked?
@@markowusu6511 Looking at Jude 1:7 in a literal translation of the original Greek NT, I see that it says the these cities experienced the "justice of fire eonian". Essentially, the justice of fire for an age. Looking at the 2 Peter passage in the literal translation, I see nothing that would establish eternal fire or permanent destruction.
Very interesting show!! God bless you!🙌
Thank you very much. I am getting closer to my answers that I am searching for but not there yet. Will have to continoue my search.
We were created with the capacity to sin. This resulted as it had to in sin. This means that death had to be preplanned which also would mean that god was willing to sacrifice some/many of his creation. A question one could ask is if god was surprised by how many would succomb to sin which then could place a question if he really knew what the end would be at creation or if that only came along slowly afterwards.
Even today there is so much perfection to be seen resulting from the creation. It is hard to believe that the creator of this could be suprised by anything.
But that again opens the question of how much of his creation was he willing to loose to the evil side and ultimately to destruction.
If this is a big portion I start having a problem with love, as I know the future and still am willing to create humans in a way where I would loose so many and would have lost all if not the intervention of Jesus would have happened.
Is there any good literature that helps bring this in perspective?
I believe there is a difference between being "created with the capacity to sin", and being created with the freedom to choose to be obedient or to be disobedient.
What about how Jesus described hell
One more thing. As for the story of the rich man and Lazarus, consider this made up story from WW2. A column of Sherman tanks was ambushed in France and one of them was hit by a Panzerfaust rocket propelled grenade. The tank immediately caught fire and only the tank commander was able to exit the tank, though his body was wrapped in flame - leaving him screaming in agony. However, he spotted an infantryman. With a coherent voice, he commanded the infantryman to dip the tip of his finger into his canteen and place a drop of water on his tongue, which the infantryman did. Instantly, the tank commander felt relief from his pain and he was able to make a full recovery back at the field hospital. This is essentially what Evangelicals have to accept as plausible if they want to interpret the Rich Man and Lazarus story literally. What good would a drop of water on the tongue do for a person whose body is wrapped in flames - and that, molten earth?
Shawn are rivers really sprouting up in the middle east like the bible says will happen in the last days , internet says it's already happening ??
How come you are getting ur data from the internet not the bible
@@hereistand6178 how come u DNT understand it was a question
Amen!
I was led to believe that the our never dies and he will torture the sinners even though they cannot die and he can torture that soul with no end. Can you explain this?
quick question: does the sinner burn for all of his sins ie if his sins were totaled up the made 300 years would he burn for 300 years? or is it just a death.
Can you do a video about the great white throne
I understand hell in a different way now. Hell does come to an end however, what happens to those in hell at its end. Will they simply stop existing.
Yes like Sodom that was burn in eterna fire, but not burning today.
@@lisadavis4834Hell .... the grave
To share with you another clue about this subject, we need to read Romans 6:23 where Paul the Apostle says...."For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." This seems a great opportunity for Paul to say "The wages of sin is eternal punishment in hell,"....but He does not say this does he? Also, if a person is going to receive eternal life as a gift from God through Christ Jesus, wouldn't it be feasible that a person suffering in hell for all eternity would have to be given eternal life also? Eternal suffering in hell came about through the medieval church accepting the Greek philosophy that we have an immortal soul and that soul is tormented in hell shortly after death. But the bible says nothing of mankind having an immortal soul whatsoever. So, according to Paul's message here, God gives a repentant person eternal life through Christ Jesus as an eternal gift and an unrepentant sinner will not receive the gift of eternal life, but only death awaits him. According to Paul, all a sinful person would have is eternal death because he does not have the gift of eternal life given to us through Jesus. And if a person receives the gift of eternal life through Christ....Then he would not be in hell whatsoever! Any comment on this?
“But fear Him who is able to destroy both body AND SOUL in hell.” So we humans cannot destroy the soul, only the body. But God can destroy both.
Revelation 14:10-11 (NLT)
"This torment will continue day and night forever and ever, for those who worship the beast and its statue, or who accept the mark of its name."
This passage is often interpreted to suggest an eternal consequence for those who engage in acts of rebellion against God, emphasizing the lasting nature of the punishment described.
Amen 🙏
What about the people who were sinners and died before this future event. Will he bring them back too so they will also be burned to stubble? I do not understand this. I was raised to believe that a spirit cannot ever die so if one goes to hell, their spirit will burn forever.
When Christ comes back, he will raise everyone from the dead and if they’ve heard about him and chose to take him, that is, if you understand Christianity, you either get destroyed by fire or inherit the new Earth revelation says it all
1. Matthew 25:41 (NLT):
"Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, 'Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons.'"
2. Revelation 20:15 (NLT):
"And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire."
These verses are often interpreted to convey the idea of a place of eternal punishment.
NO!; there is no choice after death or before; our body deteriorates in the grave and our spirit goes to Heaven. That's it! When you finally believe that there is no hell doesn't mean you have to start believing annihilation! ... because annihilation is also false.
Yes absolutely
Another example of how incoherent the Evangelical understanding of Hell is is found in Matthew 5:29-30. It is better for one of your members to perish than for your whole body to be cast into Hell.” Evangelicals teach that it is the soul, or psyche in the Greek, that goes to Hell immediately after death. But Jesus says that it is the body, or soma in the Greek, that goes to Hell. Which is it? Because you can visit the grave of many infidels and find their bodies if you are inclined to dig them up. And for the pain associated with burning to occur, means that the heat is literally damaging literal nerve endings. If the physical matter responsible for the physical pain is not actually being consumed, there is no mechanism by which the physical pain can occur, or for there to be any smoke to go up forever and ever.
Fire of love ur get it but live it don't talk it.
Can you explain this.
When satan was defeated and sent to the bottomless pit, the beast and the false prophets was cast into the lake of fire. Then after a millennia satan will be released and be deafeted again and finally cast into hell were the beast and the false prophet were and are already there for 1 thousand years and they still exist to join satan
Revelation 20:10 KJV
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Why didn't he yahweh stared all over when Adam and eve's sinned
Ok. But what about KJV Revelation chapter 20:11-15? The Devil being casted into the lake of fire where the Beast and the False Prophet ARE…
And about Lazarus and the rich man, if it was a parable Jesus always started out saying that “I tell you a parable…” but he never states that when speaking about this.
I’m not trying to refute or contradict.
Would you please clarify these for us?
Or has it been addressed in your book?
I look forward to hearing from you!
Thank you!
Respectfully,
George
Was your question ever answered? Not specifically by him, but over time did you discover the answer?
I like your approach and the exposing of the error of eternal conscious torment doctrine. You are just a short step away from universal reconciliation theology. I think the bible is clear that all are children (offspring) of God and in Him we live and move and have our being. It also indicates that at some point every tongue will gladly and voluntarily confess Jesus Christ as Lord to the glory of the Father. According to Paul's writings, this results in salvation.
You may or may not arrive at that conclusion but there are a question or two that you may want to address for your followers.
One is, who are the wicked that you suggest will be terminated and burnt up? For example; one who lived a pure life, visiting the prisoners, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, but had incorrect theology and failed to "accept Jesus as Savior". Would their fate be the same as Hitler for example?
And, explain how Paul's example of fire burning up wood and hay and bringing the gold and silver through the fire unharmed. Both these conditions are in reference to one individual that has both wood and gold in their life.
FYI next time you read through the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, consider Judah who has the royal scepter and also has 5 brothers, and Lazarus whose name in Hebrew, is a form of Eliezer, who was the Gentile servant of Abram. It is an interesting story and those representative characters add some depth to your presentation of it.
Have a great day.
Eternal torment is a wicked demonic heresy that promotes God as a Sadist.
So what about the Rich man and Lazarus. Luke 16:19-21… where Jesus says the man was in hell tormented in agony and fire and asked Father Abraham to allow Lazarus to come and dip cool water on his tongue. Why would Jesus refer to hell in this way if there is not a current place of hell or it’s not for eternity.
Best way to look at it.. no one knows for sure what hell will be like.. best thing to do is to avoid it at all costs.
But But a fear might be the only thing to get somebody to her pen, but it doesn’t lead to true repentance. Also, free will internal burning doesn’t compete with Christ/God basically say do it my way or be tortured Never-ending
Let's say an averaged sinner lives his life here on earth for 100 years. So for 100 years he hasn't live the kind of life according to the will of GOD. So in the afterlife he goes to hell & will be tormented there forever without end. Remember, we are just talking here of an averaged sinner. We aren't talking here of the Adolf Hitlers, the Joe Stalins, the Saddam Husseins or the Pol Pots. How can an averaged sinner get that kind of punishment so horrible & with no end? It simply defies the very basic logic & rationale.
Whether eternal or not am not sure burning is what you want
“Didn’t our hearts burn within us as we walked by the way? Didn’t we know that it must have been the Lord?”
Revelation 20:10 (NLT)
"Then the devil, who had deceived them, was thrown into the fiery lake of burning sulfur, joining the beast and the false prophet. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
I want so much to believe this but there are too many of verses that talk about people burning in hell forever. Mark 9:43
And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to h***, to the unquenchable fire.
Jude 1:7
Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
Revelation 20:15
And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Dozens of Bible verses talk about the punishment of h*** so I am hoping that the version represented in this teaching, is true.
@@bellerhea445 Matthew 25-46 clearly explains about eternal punishment and eternal life which refers to eternity. You explanation contradicts this particular verse.
@@dicksonkuma8286 I don't think you read the verses that I posted. You and I are saying the same thing.
Mark 9:43
And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to h***, to the unquenchable fire.
Jude 1:7
Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
Revelation 20:15
And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Jesus never never spoke about hell Gehenna was mis-trasalated
I gave you a like and there’s a lot of proof that centers don’t get tortured Eternally Take free will for example if sinners got tormented without end Christ and God basically would’ve been saying do it my way or being in Pain all eternity
I was using voice text in the phone won’t pick up the word sinner
They're in hell but not in the lake of fire. Hell is just a holding cell until the final judgement. Then hell will be thrown into the lake of fire
The Bible didn't say it was parable and Jesus didn't use names in parables
Hell is hell, be careful who you listen to, just because they teach it in a different way doesn’t mean it’s right, read it yourself and ask Jesus to show you, after all, you wouldn’t want to die and wake up in hell, you can scream, curse, say it’s not fair, whatever, no one will hear you, and you will have to deal with it forever, why don’t you follow Christ and not sin, if we do He will forgive when we repent, or do you want hell to be the way it’s being taught here so you can have your cake and eat it too?..
Or you’ll be the one saying it’s not fair when sinners are forgiven. The sinners who were never religious on earth but walked in love will be confused to find out they are sheep. The religious hypocrites who condemned sinners will be confused to find out they aren’t. Notice how the sheep do not say “minister” but the goats say “minister.” The sheep actually fed the hungry & visited the sick & imprisoned while the goats only “ministered” to them.
He's wrong!
How?
He is right
Very wrong
Jesus never thought about hell, he was talking about Gehenna the valley of Gannon that is located in Jerusalem. Stop the lies about hell
Jesus Christ knows GOD sends sinners to he'll
I've seen hell
Was just dropping 3 dark souls in
Your god not the God of the Bible. Final destruction is what is promised. Eternal life is only for the righteous in Christ. Nahum 1 vs 9. KJV Isaiah 33:14-15
14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;
For one to be kept alive eternally would mean that God gave them immortality.
@@IanChrist-os3od sorry but that’s not biblical I’ve seen the same thing about souls dropping to a lower portal to the devil but it’s probably to deceive
I'ma Baptist an I know the truth about hell. The truth being that it never existed and will never exist. But; I think I'll remain "Baptist".... even though it's a label that doesn't make it to Heaven. Our spirit goes to Heaven; no labels.
Yes BUT THEY MIGHT NOT BE IN HELL BUT THEIR IN TORMENT!!
A place of TORMENT!! SO YOU MIGHT BETTER RETHINK THAT !
Unfortunantly Hell exists and its eternal
@@filippigl-sg1se the effects of the fire are eternal not the wicked
U put your life on a story.
I was given all and tryed to
Give it to u.but I am Thomas
Do I take it all back becouse
My name.if u say lier lier about me
Let u not no me or my word
So u can not be helped by me a dam lier.
I told u but u said no to me so no u get
Yes, eternal is hell
It said ur blow smoke.hihihi.u do no what that is don't u.
I can't stand religions, all religions
LISTEN YOU DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT JESUS AN THE 12 apostles taught was for the JEWS ONLY !!! PAULS OUR APOSTLE!! PAULS GOSPEL IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE SAVED !! UNDERSTAND THIS PEOPLE!!!! IF YOU FOLLOW THIS MAN YOU WILL FOLLOW HIM STRAIGHT TO HELL !! BECAUSE HES OTW !!!
Sudo.mean take over don't it.