Iowa: Better Than Montana
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- čas přidán 13. 01. 2021
- Iowa is a great battleship, and because of the matchmaker t9 ships get it is a far more powerful ship than Montana. I recently have been on a binge of t9 ships, and found myself playing Iowa and actually enjoying myself. It was a ship I largely skipped due to liking NC more and wanting to get Montana.
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Love this series and your take on things. Thanks, man!
Imagine an Iowa buffed for tier 10 instead of a montana I'd love it
Ye we will have legendary battle between yamato and iowa
Honestly most of the Tier 9 BBs should have been Tier 10 contenders, thats how it was originally until they added overmatch mechanic and gave yamato everything else. Then they needed Montana at tier 10
@@SonOfAB_tch2ndClass but 406mm kinda shjt at tier X, maybe they will give montana speed boost to able to do flanking stuff
@@chanlamkha5766 Only artificially because of the simplistic Overmatch and Autobounce Mechanics
@@chanlamkha5766 or proximity Flak with 2 belt armor scheme
have they given the Iowa a sigma buff? what i remember from grinding it way back when is its ability to totally miss broadside yamas at around 10km.....
AFAIK Iowa sigma has always been 1.9, same as Montana and slightly worse than NC's 2.0 (but you get that dispersion upgrade). But I agree, Iowa feels much better today than when I first grinded through it over a year ago. It's either the matchmaker putting T9 as top tier more often, or I'm simply a better player now than I used to be, or both. Either way, it's a pretty solid ship and I tend to have good games in it even with just a 10 point captain.
over and over again Iowa and Mo shootin at prefect side, 10 km, net 1 over pen. Total bullshit Wows. The numbers look ok but in game does not reflect the numbers.
@@KarthikVishwamitra Didnt us bbs have 1.7 sigma way back in the day?
@@vandheerlorde6570 I'm pretty sure Iowa and Monty always had 1.9, but I know Colorado and North Carolina had 1.8 sigma way back in the day. The lower tiers were worse but they've been buffed as well.
It still trolls you nowadays too... I've had fights with cruisers or BBs even at 6-8 kms, you aim at a flat side and you get 2 pens with the rest of the shells going drunkenly in the water or sailing past the enemy. Meanwhile you get penned trying to just reposition or outright citadeled, depending on who's shooting at you.
As a fellow bb player, I 100% agree. Your vids have been popping up in my feed recently and they're quite good! Keep it up
You know how I know about the favorable tier 9 mm? From playing at tier 7...
Good vid. I especially liked the discussion of in-game tactics and positioning.
GG, fun and enjoying to watch, I agree with the fact that not having a CV in game gives you a lot more options and IMO a lot more fun.
Outstanding content!!! Love your videos and your approach to the game. Just brilliant!!!!!
I absolutely love the Iowa, it's pretty much the perfect allround battleship to me.
The guns feel decent, the survivability is not great, but all in all sufficient, the anti air works quite good enough, and what I love most about the Iowa: The combination of concealment and speed makes it so extremely versatile when it comes to positioning, adapting and controlling the engagement.
So all in all I can absolutely confirm: Even in 2021 the Iowa is an awesome ship at Tier IX.
Ever since they added Georgia I was hoping they would add an Iowa class with a speed boost. I always enjoyed have the triple 16in over the dual 18in.
Gimme New Jersey :P
One thing that really leveled up my game was to not rush in every fight. During my first year of this game I played mostly co-op to get familiar with the controls and gameplay. But that game mode heavily favored rushing into battle or you only get 1-2 hits no kills due to the AI being more forgivable.
Now in random battles I only go max 3/4 speed at the start. Which had upped my survivability a lot!
i always get extra spicy when my team blobs up like that, i start throwing some funny insults i didn't even know i would do
This map is one of those maps where sometimes the enemy just folds on one side. The bbs turn out and around and the cruisers follow and at that point its fookin harvest time. Creeping into the center, especially if you can remain unspotted or atleast move in the areas where death does not walk, you can reap a fearsome tally before the enemy can adjust. Just yesterday i slapped 4 ships that way.
great content, and yeah honestly I was more disappointed on Montana when got her I like Iowa more
Still waiting for a Shimakaze gameplay with the 8km torpedoes and torpedo acceleration so you can flex on us normal humain beings.
Just got Iowa, need some advice. What are the best new captain skills and upgrades to get for the Iowa?
Yep, I've been having a great time in t9 because its always against poor t7s. Georgia against Colorado lmfao
Anyone playing Colobado in order to grind to the Vermont ought to get used to the experience, LOL. The tiers 8-9 tech ships on that line appear to be really garbage, and frankly a good player will have more influence on a battle in pretty much any other tier 10 BB than Vermont (well I suppose FDG is questionable, especially with the awful implications of the captain skill rework).
Great review, quite educational.
The Alaska was doing Zumiez on the mini map 😂
I didn't really appreciate the Iowa the first time I played through it, that accuracy is pretty fun.
Do you think Montana would be OP if it got the USN Superheavy AP auto-ricochet modifiers? To give it something to help distinguish it at T10?
How do you set that circle with ship rotation on screen?
Great stuff man love the content! have you thought about new ship reviews?
I bought the Georgia and I had problems with the speed of the shells, I only do 50k of damage at most I have 30 games and I still do not get used to it, is there any method of aiming for the American battleships?
Just 40,000 XP to go. A nicely timed encouragement to push on and finish.
I highly encourage grinding this ship for fun. Despite having a bad hull and speed when you get her, her fully upgraded form is really scary, especially when top tier
This ship is an absolute monster. Especially with a high point captain or with Halsey or Doe as your commander. I still play her for giggles. She isn't the best tank but I've bow tanked and traded against Russian ships until they lost patience and made a mistake. Enjoy her when you get her
I recently just finished grinding through the Iowa, and it's probably the only high tier battleship that I:
a) completed the grind through, and
b) ended that grind with a positive winrate.
It's so damn consistent and I'm a lot more confident in playing it at any range because of how good the guns are, and of course the matchmaker. Whether it's brawling, sniping, or playing second line, Iowa does it all with a consistency that I've yet to see on any other BB I've played so far.
Nice vid, Potato.
I kind of agree, I prefer T9 / T8 unless matchmaking throws you in with Thunderers & Smolenks at T10
What is that angle indicator and how do I get it?
Tbh everyone loves NC dispersion, but I honestly don’t feel the difference a lot of the time. It feels like most of my shots at 12-15 km don’t group up and I regularly have massive vertical spread that makes citadeling CAs a pain. At long range, the dispersion feels like i could fit a CL between each shell.
I just asked you about Iowa vs. Montana in twitch chat the other day haha
Good video. I recently reset the American BB line and found when I got back to Iowa that I liked it a LOT more than I had the first time. Like you, I now like it much more than the very power-crept Montana which feels anemic at tier 10. Unlike my last grind, the Iowa feels a lot more like a tier 9 North Carolina.
Too bad this was pre-rework. Does dead-eye and increased accuracy in last upgrade slot provide diminishing returns on the lowered dispersion?
IF there is no carrier AND if there are no OP paper soviet boats then MAYBE we can have a nice game.
What Mod launcher and mods are you using?
I used to think Montana was powercrept, and didn't touch her for years. Just 2 months ago when I started to grind Montana for the Unique Upgrade mission that was about to end, I realised that wasn't true. She is still very strong, with a proper build and positioning. I spec for max DCP time (special upgrade slot 1, and consumable upgrade in slot 5). This makes my Montana almost invulnerable to HE spammers (38mm deck, 31s DCP time, and a very strong heal with upgrade 5). Even though conceal is a bit bad, it reminds me to stay ~15km away from enemy cruisers, reducing the risk of being over aggressive. At the end of the mission chain, I got 62% WR over 100 battles on Montana, that is surprisingly good
Don't get me wrong here, Iowa is a really strong ship, and I really love her with 300+ battles. However, I don't think Iowa is anywhere near the power of Montana in terms of tankiness and alpha dmg. The more preferable MM on tier 9 is true tho
Montana is most definitely powercrept though, just like Iowa is. Doesn't mean you cannot get good results in them.
Would love to see the Iowa get a bit better rudder shift and a big AA buff against Tier X CVs and I'd be happy. I find it can tank pretty well nose-in when it's speed has gotten you a bit too far forward while the rest of the team is still in the J/I-Line 5 minutes into the match. Just finished grinding exp for Montana but I'll still be playing Iowa until I can afford the Monty.
edit: I must have missed the unsporting behavior of that Kitakazi. Maybe you should stick to ranked if you don't understand that random in random matches also applies to skill level.
I "fixed" the AA problem by going secondaries on it. All the secondaries :|
It buffed the AA a bit too, at least now it swats some of a Shokaku's squadron away before he drops me instead of just watching them approach and waiting to get slam-dunked.
What mod is the radar time counter?
Georgia is the real beast. What a blast to play!
Can you make video on Sovetsky Soyuz ?
Anyone notice that there are More non cv games resentlly? Like less than usual. I feel like am finally having fun.
I played 8 games yesterday and not a single cv game
it was me got totally crushed by that kitakaze
I had the absolute opposite experience - I did not like the NC at all but felt like a god once I got the Iowa. It still is my all time favorite BB.
Iowa is phenomenal. It only has one major drawback. Its a long, long, and did i mention, long ship. Rudder Shift is almost mandatory.
I mostly play tier 10 cruisers i have zao petro and yoshino and 1 bb kremlin. Iowa was always a great ship. Whenever i see an enemy iowa i always try to kill it or run away.
I hated playing with NC. Loved Iowa though. Still have it in port and play it often.
What.mod are you using that gives you ship angles.?
World of warships ModStation
WHAT TYPE OF ZOOM ARE USING ? A MOD?
11:10 Probably just 4-5 pens. There was no heavy damage message popped up after all.
Hit another Iowa with my Iowa today in 1 salvoe 14 km (65k) 3 of them citadels... So idk it is good or bad :)
Tier 9 is the sweet spot in this current meta.
Disregarding Georgia and Alsace's speed boost, Iowa is the fastest BB of her tier. It can even chase down Destroyers provided it doesn't have to make too many turns.
You should make a new "Brawling" guide with the new skills update.
That would be easy. "Brawling guide for new captain skills: DON'T BOTHER".
;-p
I can agree with loving t9 ships
nice
T9 will be fun to play until they add the t9 cvs back as premiums :D
IOWA IS MY FAV SHIPS ON LEGENDS
Bless my Missouri.
Nice
The Iowa is amazing. I tried the German and Sovjet battleships; but the guns on the Iowa are so much better. First time I played the Iowa I made more than 150 k damage for the first time ever. North Carolina and Iowa are the easiest BB´s to play in the game. Great!
Love the NC, Bama, Mass, Georgia and Monty. Never really liked Iowa and Miss
But Mr. Potato sir! Iowa is old! It can't possibly be good!
Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
The Iowa may be fast
But the Georgia is faster
The iowa is my favorite ship to play, after the atago. It beats my Jean bart. I really love its speed. its what makes it more fun than the NC, for me at least. Keep up the good work PQ. im loving your calm content that takes a different perspective on this game
12:40 too many battleships have had their citadels lowered, and I personally don't like that.
my iowa have 12.7 km detect range
Iowa or Izumo?
I have that ship. My guns dont do that. miss bounce 1350 damage. thats what they do.
lol same bro
Love your videos BTW. On a side note, I noticed you comp'd one player, and gave negative karma to two others........why the negative? I understand people can make mistakes (Lord knows that's me for sure), but why do that? I guess I always thought it was better to give others the benefit of the doubt (and I am unfortunately one of those poor souls that pays attention to Karma).
i only play t9 now. t10 feels like running head first into a brick wall over an over again.
World of Thunderers at T10
@@Foxbat2929 That and smolensk, every damn cv... the list goes on
You have a bit of misplay here, you didn’t push in early
T9 is why I like Neptune more than mino
For me, the Iowa is the best tier 9 for now.
try georgia
Grinded us tech line and stopped in iowa, much better than monty
do you still feel the same way about Iowa?
I played the Iowa stock to save credits, and even stock it feels better than the Monty. Monty straight up needs a buff, sure it has potential as people say, but so does every ship. The stats don't lie, it's a great deal below average.
so basically NO CV = fun games
Tier 10 is just god awfull boring. And has been for a long time
I enjoy Iowa more, I find Montana more reliable...
I find NC REALLY strong, but I found Iowa's guns better, doesn't get as randomly wide horizontal shells at times and they have better ballistics...
The thing is T9, T8 is a lot more fun right now...
I've been OVER T10 for such a long time, gameplay is stale AF
me when exposed citedel
iowa has the most curved bow of the us bb line ... so u eat those cits from an otherwise angled position.
Miss the old days when ALL BBs other than the Germans were like NorCal still is in that if you misplay and get caught you take citadels/monster damage.
These days WG of course dumbed it down, chasing the lowest common denominator, hence you see plays like that Jean Bart sailing absolutely broadside on without getting slaughtered.
I suppose one might have pretended WG did it to encourage movement since the penalty of advancing and being flanked isn't as great, but we all know that's not the real reason.
The captain skill rework is going further to entrench static, long range, bow in, HE spamming dull garbage. I suspect that's because, in WG;s thinking, that's how people play and it's far easier for WG to move the meta to suit how people play than have players need to understand good v bad play. In other words, I suspect long range bow tanking sniping and HE spam simply reduces the influence of skill, and we know WG doesn't like skill to be TOO important because they believe mass casual "don't understand much nor do we care" player doesn't like it if they have to learn too much. Maybe they're correct.
On the plus side, I suppose all those Mongqueror players you see at the back of the map on full health at the end of the battle they lose will have plenty of company, LOL.
Lol @ reporting the Kita
Iowa best t9 bb
Too bad not all t9 ships are that good. Is the best mm in game by far cause t10 really isn't that great. Tnx for the vid.
Tbh i'm so bored from t10, that i mainly playing t6-t9.
Better than montana? I'm unicum in both, love them, but definitely not.
I think the Problem ist the historical 16Inch-Guns. The Colorado has them, die North Carolina, the Iowa and the Montana. T7-T10 all have the same caliber and the same penetration of armor. The Montana is a fictive ship. It was planed but never build or planed to the end. Maybe they should give the Montana 18Inch-guns instead of the 16inches.
This makes sense, because in this game the germans build bigger battleships than the Bismarck/Tirpitz and the japanese more Yamatos and bigger guns. The normal progress ist, to optimize the own new ships this this threat. And this was normaly done with more armor (panamacanal, not possible) and more caliber-guns, which should be possible. Or besser Ammunation for more penetration or damage.
North Carolina and the previous class had 16-in 45 caliber guns and the Iowa's have 16-in 50 caliber guns.
I love georgia more tho
MMGA
i remember hating 7+ tier USA battleship guns for having the most terrible ballistics when i played this game . dont know how ppl can enjoy them after german and japanese bbs =) .
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Why are the videos so bark
How to try out Slava for yourself, and see if it's worth the grind (spoilers: it isn't): Step 1: get an Iowa. Step 2: Put Artillery Plotting Mod 2 on instead of MBM3. Step 4: hang around middle distance. Step 5: Don't grind for Slava anyways and have fun with Iowa
Slava has insane dispersion at LONG range and insane pen, Iowa has none of that
T9 ships are more unique but still very powerful. T10 homogenizes things and many T10 ships can argued to be worse than T9.
The n carlonia is better than the iowa idk what your on lol
Yeah true. I get more damage on n carlonia :)
Never better than Montana....Jesus...
👎👎👎👎 are u kidding me?? my montana is the best BB in the game even better that thunderer overall, toxic players everywhere.
after having 2M XP with my montana and around 1.5m in others i still say MONTANA is the best fucking BB in the game.
I guess that's the reason why Monty has recently been dominating both CBs and ranked. Oh wait...
Why does everyone use the wrong units for armor thickness? The units are cm not mm lol. 30mm of armor is like 1 inch.
I know but it’s mm mate