Dear Agadmator, I've been watching your content for a long time, but this is my first time commenting. Today, it was revealed that Péter Lékó will once again sit at the board and Richárd Rapport will compete again in Hungarian colors at the Chess Olympiad, which is being held in Hungary. I would be happy if you could say a few words about it, even a throwback content about Lékó's return. Thank you for your work!
8:46 Don't overlook the genius of the move Ka6. Foreseeing like 10 moves ahead that when white's queen would land on d8 (at 9:34), it would come with check if the king was still on b6
Magnus playing and beating the opponent where it hurts. He always goes for the throat. Imagine the pressure on playing this game against magnus with you having this disadvantages. A true champion
Unfortunately we can't tell whether Ding has gotten over his problems. A 9-move Classical game ending in a repetition is about as bad as it gets, basically an agreed draw.
@@pineapplesareyummy6352 but still it was against Magnus, and based on Ding’s performance this a draw is not a bad start to getting back to where he used to be
@@marcmaster7911except that it is very bad because he was in a losing position against someone with 3 less minutes than him. Lol. Not the end of the world, sure, but bad.
There has to be a way to deal with these ridiculously early draws somehow. 100 push-ups after the game but before Armageddon, minus one for each move made? Play on a treadmill that gets 0.1 mph slower for each move made, starting at 5 mph?
Chess has become so boring with easy draws, even armageddon is boring because one player doesnt push for a win. Chess should adopt the football scoring system, 3 points for a win, 1 for a draw and 0 for losing, to make games more exciting, rewarding attacking chess.
That can't work cos people will play safe to avoid losing and you'll replay the same game 100x. It happened in a championship once where they played first to 6 wins it had to be abandoned@@pedroroque829
I liked your comment without really understanding it. People don’t have to show up and play or watch. Yet it is a very popular event. So maybe it’s made for Magnus since he lives in Norway?
@@LukeLongboneOfficialOP asserts that the format is made for Carlsen because it begins with classical, where Magnus is the strongest player living, and ends with an asymmetrical rapid time format where Magnus is the strongest player living
This will probably be one of the last games I watch. agadmator I’ve been watching you since college. You really made the game interesting. Thank you for all you have done! A true gentleman and scholar
There’s nothing the world has to offer me and I’ve given all I can, but my fire is out, like Charmander in the rain, and there is no savior to rescue me. I believe I came across this channel about 7-9 years ago. I can’t remember. I had no clue all this stuff was happening, that there was so much rich history in the chess world. agadmator’s channel is my favorite other than RDCWORLD1. I’ve been watching Mark for about a decade or more. Spent a lot of hours on their content. Thank you guys so much
@boopy12g I am so sorry that you have been in so much pain. This world sometimes can be a cruel place indeed and yet it can be the most beautiful if you just give it a chance. Its kinda like chess itself, doesn't really matter if you are in a worse position you have to make the next move and even if that doesn't work, you move on to the next game right away. Its like when you are on a losing streak for too long and losing rating left and right, you think you will quit playing after each game but the inherent beauty keeps attracting you and once you get of the longest losing streak of your life, you gain your highest rating ever and it feels amazing to even look at that loosing streak as a highlight on your profile but now you know that it doesn't matter. No matter how bad it gets, there is always hope in life. Please don't do something you can't ever undo. Talk to a friend or a family member or seek professional help if possible. I don't know what you are going through, but I know for a fact that you will get to the other side ❤️
@@boopy12g If your fire was truly out, the you wouldn't have mentioned any of this. You wanted us to ask, you wanted to announce your demise. And that means there are still things left that mean something to you. So, ask yourself again before doing the final step and be honest about it.
So Magnus effing Carlsen managed to exchange all of the minor pieces without giving up any pawn and without having to move his king from the middle. Against Ding Liren, who is not a bitch. He might genuinelly be the best chess player ever.
@@aphextemper44 playing with your advantage isn’t cowardly. Who tf ignores their advantage just to prove a point? Nevertheless Ding could never win against magnus bro. He can’t even win against Wesley So. The fact that Ding could never get close to Magnus when he was the reigning champ speaks volume
50 years onwards, no one will know that Magnus could become a world champion for a couple of decades if he wants to. No one will talk about how overpower a player he is.
😂 captured en passant an hour ago, the dude I'm playing against told me no way. He returned back the pieces and said he knows en passant but it's optional, I should have said beginning of the game we should involve that rule. Since we didn't agree to involve that rule in the game it's not going to happen. I jumped up from chair laughing and screaming. 😂😂😂
Bidding in Armageddon is where the players have a chance to bid a time to play as black. The reasoning is that black is superior in this time format, only needing a draw and thus black is the preferred colour. Starting at an equal time, for example, 15 minutes, the players would need to choose the amount of time they think they need to play for a draw/win as black. For example, Player A chooses 9 minutes 32 seconds (9:32) Player B chooses 10 minutes (10:00), Player A gets the black pieces in the game. Whoever bid lower, would have the black pieces for the match. On the other hand, white would get the full 15 minutes to play for a win. Think of it like bidding for an auction, but instead of whoever is higher, its whoever is lower.
White is in must win situation in Armegeddon which is why Magnus got the points because he was Black all he had to do is draw and be credited with a win
Do Armageddon games count for Blitz ratings? It shouldn't, because the players don't start with the same time on the clock. It is not the same thing as a regular game.
I see your camera format changed. Is this the new camera in the old frame? When I watched your recent video with the new camera it did occur to me that the wide screen format was taking up screen real estate without showing anything extra that would be interesting. Plus that picture frame is now a part of your established "look" and dropping it was possibly a bad idea.
when was armageddon introduced to settle drawn classical games? or was it always the norm? i just find it odd that a short format is used to settle a game in a long format
what do you propose if a long classical game always gets drawn? another classical match? or settle it in another time format with a huge chance of getting it settled. white needs to win in an Armageddon and blacks just needs a draw, doing Armageddon settled things just fine
Every tournament has their own way of settling draws. There isn’t an international standard. Norway chess has used Armageddon for a while. So do countries like Russia.
8:40 perhaps it would have been better for Ding to consider some sort of D4 pawn break. Sure you would lose a pawn, but it seems like the infiltration near the black king could be a good try when black’s rooks are in such a passive position. Maybe put the queen on g3 and rooks on c1 and c2 and then try for d4? Seems at least a bit more complicated than just opening up the h file for Magnus’s rooks.
#Suggestion I know it might be too much work, but if possible can we get a head 2 head score between the players whose games are being analyzed? atleast the classical games between them. That would be a great addition to an already great content. Thanks Agadmator!
1:30 - "You are a reging world champion, but you play Magnus Carslen" xD Like in the joke: "You know why God took the name God? The name Chuck Norris was already taken"
Was so glad the live stream showed up in my recommended today, saw this played live and it was interesting position, I had not seen it before. Found it interesting how it was described as "checkers" by the commentators and it makes sense
isn't that rule of 3 fold repetition kinda outdated with how deep we can analyze opening with and game database ? it feel like for high level player it's "easy" to force draw to play safe or avoid taking risk towad wining.
The Armageddon game is intended to make the game less of a coin flip because at the highest level the players are so strong and well versed in theory that the evaluation bar is usually 50/50 through the entire game. It’s already a coin toss so they’re trying to make it more dynamic and interesting.
Any armageddon game in any tournament means that the player with the white pieces (Ding) needs the win to get the extra point, while the player with the black pieces (Magnus) only needs a draw to get the extra point
They play normal classical game..... If Classical game ends in a draw they don't get half points each like other tournament...they will enter a format called "Armageddon" Where black will have less time and a draw/win counts as a win for black..and white should win a game to get a full point....
All good answers. Just adding that the concept was invented in order to make classical chess more entertaining and engaging. Similar to Fischer Random but changing time and win rules rather than piece set up.
What is the points system for this tournament? Do players who win the Classical game get an advantage over players who win by Armageddon? They really should, otherwise. It is supposed to be a Classical tournament before it is Armageddon. Players should not be able to draw every Classical game in a snooze fest, but win the Armageddon just because they are a better speed player.
If you can magically transport Bobby Fischer to the modern era, but you don't allow him to study all the knowledge accumulated in the last 50 years, he'd lose against any super-GM in the modern era. Chess is like any other intellectual subject. Modern players have the advantage of all the knowledge discovered by people before them. Even a high school science student know more physics than Isaac Newton did. Modern players also have the benefit of studying with engines. They know which opening lines are sound. They have a repertoire of new opening traps that older generation players wouldn't have known. As for natural chess ability, then no one can possibly know. One would not only have to bring back Fischer, but other greats like Paul Morphy, Adolf Anderssen, Mikhail Tal, etc.
yeah the black king running behind his pawns refusing to attack was pathetic. Magnus is an egotistic coward, that´s why he never will be as respected as Fischer
I feel like forcing a draw should win you 0.4, and your opponent gets 0.6. You prevent your opponent from winning a full point, but give them slightly better standings
@@IExistSometimes It is objective to say who repeated the position a third time. But you’re right, that doesn’t necessarily mean they forced it. and the context can change during the game. Forcing a draw when you only have a king, that’s commendable and we should encourage it. Forcing a draw when you still have winning chances, less so. I think what I’d like to see from this rule change is situations where a player is down material, but can counter the attack by forcing them to repeat. If the attacker fall into repetition, they only get 0.4, but if they avoid repetition and find a new way to push the attack, they still have winning chances. That would encourage dynamic play. In addition, when players are tempted to go into a theory heaven Berlin defense and draw by repetition on move 25, it’s no longer an even trade. Maybe the 0.6 should always go to black? Maybe whichever player has less material?
Ding made a huge mistake by allowing Magnus to force a draw in Classical when he knows he will get black in the Armageddon. Magnus is still clear number 1 and everyone knows it, including Ding.
@@LukeLongboneOfficial In chess it's a valid question if a draw is required or not when there's a three-fold repetition. I could be wrong. I now think you need the repetition AND at least one player to claim it, even though it's assumed you claim it just by playing in practical terms. So perhaps agadmador was right too.
@@jason.arthur.taylorI Don’t know too many official tournament chess rules but there are a few games in which a draw isn’t allowed until like move 40 so a repetition doesn’t necessarily end the game unless it’s claimed as a draw by the players
Clash of the world champions! Will they play it safe, or will they do something interesting? Oh dear, they uh... they played it very, very safe. So very safe.
It’s aimed at favoring the audience by forcing players to play aggressive, attacking chess as white. It also give each player a fair chance at playing as black. So it is objectively fair.
Yo did you make the algorithm mad. Gotham chess been spamming my feed and made me miss your tourney break downs. Come to find out I am somehow no longer subscribed? Did you change channels or something?
Tal would not do well in modern times simply because gms have engine lines and are overall better defensively. Fisher another person answered above and countless times b4 but boils down to 'it depends' and 'who knows' as your answer.
The Black move 3...h6 is CRAP!! (And I do NOT care if Magnus Carlsen played it!) It is a SYMBOL of what happens when you PREPARE your openings with Computers!)
They don’t bid the times at all, it’s 10 minutes vs 7 for every game
Oh, my bad! I thought they bid 😅
With same colours
In Armageddon they get the same color as they did in the classical game!
So if this guy is right how did you know the bid time of magnus??!!@agadmator
@@hosseinmohammadi8776 because of the click times at start, I would assume..🤷🏻♂️
"you are the reigning world champion, but you are playing the best player in the world"
"You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of master."
Ding isn't even top 5 atm.
It may seem weird but it has happened in other sports that champion isn't the same as #1, quite a few examples in combat sports for sure.
😂😂😂
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 Yes,in other sport
But it almost never happen in chess except some case
Dear Agadmator,
I've been watching your content for a long time, but this is my first time commenting. Today, it was revealed that Péter Lékó will once again sit at the board and Richárd Rapport will compete again in Hungarian colors at the Chess Olympiad, which is being held in Hungary. I would be happy if you could say a few words about it, even a throwback content about Lékó's return.
Thank you for your work!
Lol, Hungary.
@@jestice75what’s funny about it
@@zooniba ahhhhhhhhh hahahahahahaha
Magnus building a Great Wall against Ding...the irony.
Yeah it's very ironic because the chinese build a big wall to keep the norwegians out
lol
Ha! That was EXACTLY what I wanted to write. The irony that a Norwegian won (at least by drawing) by building a Great Wall against a Chinese player.
why Irony? Did Ding build a wall?
@@sublimeade Building a "Great Wall" against a chinese player ? Don't see the irony here ?
Agadmator is the final Boss...alwys entertains us
Holy shit.... Game just ended minutes ago
and there is already a video
Holy shit, does everyone have to write this comment on all of his videos?
8:46 Don't overlook the genius of the move Ka6. Foreseeing like 10 moves ahead that when white's queen would land on d8 (at 9:34), it would come with check if the king was still on b6
The best comment 👍
No, he was just repeating moves and waiting ding to break through, since Magnus only needs a draw.
Magnus playing and beating the opponent where it hurts. He always goes for the throat. Imagine the pressure on playing this game against magnus with you having this disadvantages. A true champion
i saw this live and was just waiting for your video
thanks agadmator
Welcome back Ding
Unfortunately we can't tell whether Ding has gotten over his problems. A 9-move Classical game ending in a repetition is about as bad as it gets, basically an agreed draw.
@@pineapplesareyummy6352 but still it was against Magnus, and based on Ding’s performance this a draw is not a bad start to getting back to where he used to be
@@marcmaster7911except that it is very bad because he was in a losing position against someone with 3 less minutes than him. Lol. Not the end of the world, sure, but bad.
@@aronianspigonian8589 compared to loses he took I think it is good
There has to be a way to deal with these ridiculously early draws somehow. 100 push-ups after the game but before Armageddon, minus one for each move made? Play on a treadmill that gets 0.1 mph slower for each move made, starting at 5 mph?
You are a genius... This would work perfectly. And btw, best comment i've read today
Chess has become so boring with easy draws, even armageddon is boring because one player doesnt push for a win. Chess should adopt the football scoring system, 3 points for a win, 1 for a draw and 0 for losing, to make games more exciting, rewarding attacking chess.
Or like Morphy times where a draw didn't count
There are tournaments with that format, but not many.
I think that is the scoring system in this tournament, except that if they draw they play armageddon and the winner gets 1/2 point extra.
Similar to ice hockey OT 1 extra point.
That can't work cos people will play safe to avoid losing and you'll replay the same game 100x. It happened in a championship once where they played first to 6 wins it had to be abandoned@@pedroroque829
The format in Norway Chess is made for Magnus Carlsen
I liked your comment without really understanding it. People don’t have to show up and play or watch. Yet it is a very popular event. So maybe it’s made for Magnus since he lives in Norway?
@@LukeLongboneOfficialOP asserts that the format is made for Carlsen because it begins with classical, where Magnus is the strongest player living, and ends with an asymmetrical rapid time format where Magnus is the strongest player living
Every format that exists is tailor made for Magnus
Yeah, Carlsen is a coward and went for a draw... that´s why he won´t never be as respected as Fischer.
Carlsen is the Floyd Mayweather of chess.
@@aphextemper44God help us, mere mortals are trying to undermine a divine chess force
'I think I believe in fortresses now' ~ Magnus Carlsen
This will probably be one of the last games I watch. agadmator I’ve been watching you since college. You really made the game interesting. Thank you for all you have done! A true gentleman and scholar
Why would it be one of the last?
I hope you're good, bro?
There’s nothing the world has to offer me and I’ve given all I can, but my fire is out, like Charmander in the rain, and there is no savior to rescue me.
I believe I came across this channel about 7-9 years ago. I can’t remember. I had no clue all this stuff was happening, that there was so much rich history in the chess world. agadmator’s channel is my favorite other than RDCWORLD1. I’ve been watching Mark for about a decade or more.
Spent a lot of hours on their content. Thank you guys so much
@boopy12g I am so sorry that you have been in so much pain. This world sometimes can be a cruel place indeed and yet it can be the most beautiful if you just give it a chance. Its kinda like chess itself, doesn't really matter if you are in a worse position you have to make the next move and even if that doesn't work, you move on to the next game right away. Its like when you are on a losing streak for too long and losing rating left and right, you think you will quit playing after each game but the inherent beauty keeps attracting you and once you get of the longest losing streak of your life, you gain your highest rating ever and it feels amazing to even look at that loosing streak as a highlight on your profile but now you know that it doesn't matter.
No matter how bad it gets, there is always hope in life.
Please don't do something you can't ever undo. Talk to a friend or a family member or seek professional help if possible.
I don't know what you are going through, but I know for a fact that you will get to the other side ❤️
@@boopy12g If your fire was truly out, the you wouldn't have mentioned any of this. You wanted us to ask, you wanted to announce your demise. And that means there are still things left that mean something to you. So, ask yourself again before doing the final step and be honest about it.
Agadmator. Fortress of magnustude. Puns bro
That quote from Hikaru on top of the screen sounds like something Agadmator would say .
So Magnus effing Carlsen managed to exchange all of the minor pieces without giving up any pawn and without having to move his king from the middle. Against Ding Liren, who is not a bitch.
He might genuinelly be the best chess player ever.
He is the goat, i mean his legacy proved it already. No player can come close to his stats and achievements
Nah he´s a coward because he closed up shut and went for a draw. He knew he couldn´t beat Liren face to face
Ding was very complicit in that, at least 2 of those minor pieces were placed in a way that helped Magnus exchanging them
Magnus is the GOAT,ding will never have 17 titles.
@@aphextemper44 playing with your advantage isn’t cowardly. Who tf ignores their advantage just to prove a point? Nevertheless Ding could never win against magnus bro. He can’t even win against Wesley So. The fact that Ding could never get close to Magnus when he was the reigning champ speaks volume
Great video. Thanks for always keeping us beginners in mind.
#suggestion
Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa VS Alireza Firouzja | Norway Chess 2024 | Round 1 Armageddon
50 years onwards, no one will know that Magnus could become a world champion for a couple of decades if he wants to.
No one will talk about how overpower a player he is.
#suggestion: Double Brilliancy game
Anna Muzychuk Vs Lei Tingjie Round 1 Armageddon
"Fortress of Magnitude" maybe the best episode title EVER!
😂 captured en passant an hour ago, the dude I'm playing against told me no way. He returned back the pieces and said he knows en passant but it's optional, I should have said beginning of the game we should involve that rule. Since we didn't agree to involve that rule in the game it's not going to happen. I jumped up from chair laughing and screaming. 😂😂😂
Well played, still! Not too boring the 2nd.
Tht was quick
"..or oppent is cheating." 😂 I played that move against a friend, who didn't know that was possible, and she really thought I was cheating
H i! Could you explain how bidding works in armageddon ? just in general
Bidding in Armageddon is where the players have a chance to bid a time to play as black. The reasoning is that black is superior in this time format, only needing a draw and thus black is the preferred colour.
Starting at an equal time, for example, 15 minutes, the players would need to choose the amount of time they think they need to play for a draw/win as black.
For example, Player A chooses 9 minutes 32 seconds (9:32) Player B chooses 10 minutes (10:00), Player A gets the black pieces in the game.
Whoever bid lower, would have the black pieces for the match.
On the other hand, white would get the full 15 minutes to play for a win.
Think of it like bidding for an auction, but instead of whoever is higher, its whoever is lower.
it´s a rule set designed to help Carlsen
Imagine showing this game to your friends at the Bar and the Library.
Idk why they call it "armageddon" when a draw for black still counts as a draw. They drew both so they're both on 1 in the standings
White is in must win situation in Armegeddon which is why Magnus got the points because he was Black all he had to do is draw and be credited with a win
Do Armageddon games count for Blitz ratings? It shouldn't, because the players don't start with the same time on the clock. It is not the same thing as a regular game.
@@pineapplesareyummy6352ofc it doesnt
@@pineapplesareyummy6352yes it is not
I see your camera format changed. Is this the new camera in the old frame? When I watched your recent video with the new camera it did occur to me that the wide screen format was taking up screen real estate without showing anything extra that would be interesting. Plus that picture frame is now a part of your established "look" and dropping it was possibly a bad idea.
when was armageddon introduced to settle drawn classical games? or was it always the norm? i just find it odd that a short format is used to settle a game in a long format
I agree with you I don’t like the idea of
It's been standard in the Norway Chess tournament for a while
what do you propose if a long classical game always gets drawn? another classical match? or settle it in another time format with a huge chance of getting it settled. white needs to win in an Armageddon and blacks just needs a draw, doing Armageddon settled things just fine
@@NVDumpit classical armegeddon
Every tournament has their own way of settling draws. There isn’t an international standard. Norway chess has used Armageddon for a while. So do countries like Russia.
8:40 perhaps it would have been better for Ding to consider some sort of D4 pawn break. Sure you would lose a pawn, but it seems like the infiltration near the black king could be a good try when black’s rooks are in such a passive position. Maybe put the queen on g3 and rooks on c1 and c2 and then try for d4? Seems at least a bit more complicated than just opening up the h file for Magnus’s rooks.
New mic sounds strange when your voice raises. Sounds tinny or clangy as if it's clipping and slightly distorted.
People still getting mixed up between the World Championship title and historically accumulated ELO ratings again here. Weird.
#Suggestion I know it might be too much work, but if possible can we get a head 2 head score between the players whose games are being analyzed? atleast the classical games between them. That would be a great addition to an already great content. Thanks Agadmator!
1:30 - "You are a reging world champion, but you play Magnus Carslen" xD
Like in the joke:
"You know why God took the name God? The name Chuck Norris was already taken"
Why did the stars fall from heaven? (Revelation 6:13)
Chuck Norris looked up into the sky.
the position of thumbnail is actually 7:24
twelve munites ago..
Sir Can you do video on a painting called the checkmate....
Was so glad the live stream showed up in my recommended today, saw this played live and it was interesting position, I had not seen it before.
Found it interesting how it was described as "checkers" by the commentators and it makes sense
no no nooo, we want a brutal game😢
I could easily out bid Magnus. Doesn't matter if I am white or black, the same result will happen.
Why don't you put the time of game so we can see how it takes a player for making his move
This game is probably not epic enough to get it's own name but "Helm's Deep" would be appropriate
isn't that rule of 3 fold repetition kinda outdated with how deep we can analyze opening with and game database ?
it feel like for high level player it's "easy" to force draw to play safe or avoid taking risk towad wining.
Really clash
Tal throw up in the grave from this game
Agad can u plz in the next video on the Amagadon can u put time .we are fine on classic just Amagadon so that we see the time pressure moves
Lol, "Armagadon". It's probably a typo, but it's a good one because it mixes "Armageddon" and "Agadmator"
Quality setting of this video is unavailable. First time I'm seeing this
armageddon is more similar to a victory via flag than a real game of chess, might as well flip a coin
The Armageddon game is intended to make the game less of a coin flip because at the highest level the players are so strong and well versed in theory that the evaluation bar is usually 50/50 through the entire game. It’s already a coin toss so they’re trying to make it more dynamic and interesting.
if Magnus gobbles up more pawns it will still end in draw? a draw is 3 repetitive moves if I heard correctly?
Antonio, your Hikaru quote has a typo. "an I am" should be "and I am". Thx
it just seems to me like they draw on purpose to go to Armageddon and to hopefully get black pieces which has an obvious advantage.
Why did Ding need to win while Magnus was ok with a draw? I don't know how Norway chess works
Any armageddon game in any tournament means that the player with the white pieces (Ding) needs the win to get the extra point, while the player with the black pieces (Magnus) only needs a draw to get the extra point
In armagedon black wins in case of a draw, but have less time at start.
They play normal classical game.....
If Classical game ends in a draw they don't get half points each like other tournament...they will enter a format called "Armageddon"
Where black will have less time and a draw/win counts as a win for black..and white should win a game to get a full point....
All good answers. Just adding that the concept was invented in order to make classical chess more entertaining and engaging. Similar to Fischer Random but changing time and win rules rather than piece set up.
What is the points system for this tournament? Do players who win the Classical game get an advantage over players who win by Armageddon? They really should, otherwise. It is supposed to be a Classical tournament before it is Armageddon. Players should not be able to draw every Classical game in a snooze fest, but win the Armageddon just because they are a better speed player.
Whats the point of bidding time? Seems like magnus just always gets low time.
That's quite weird. Essentially, Ding Liren (The world champ) is playing the strongest player in the player.
U missed the "china wall" as a caption🙂↔️
There's a little error in the Hikaru quote. The word is 'and', not 'an'. Kinda of a sad Armageddon game.
Carlsen went full stone wall. He feared Liren. Such a coward
Uhhh why not break through in front of black king w/ A3????
Ding's title looking more hollow by the day.
Haters will hate
By drawing with Magnus? 🤔 Less hollow surely.
#suggestion pragg vs alireza armageddon game.
Did they even wake Magnus for either of these games?
what does CNG stand for?.... i am assuming the NG is for new game... if so, what about C?
completely new game? as he always say
There was no bidding.All Armageddons Fixed at 7 minutes for black and 10 minutes for white. Players keep original colors
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In your opinion how would Magnus do against Fisher
If you can magically transport Bobby Fischer to the modern era, but you don't allow him to study all the knowledge accumulated in the last 50 years, he'd lose against any super-GM in the modern era. Chess is like any other intellectual subject. Modern players have the advantage of all the knowledge discovered by people before them. Even a high school science student know more physics than Isaac Newton did. Modern players also have the benefit of studying with engines. They know which opening lines are sound. They have a repertoire of new opening traps that older generation players wouldn't have known. As for natural chess ability, then no one can possibly know. One would not only have to bring back Fischer, but other greats like Paul Morphy, Adolf Anderssen, Mikhail Tal, etc.
Magnus scared of facing Ding while Ding scared of facing Anand .. while Anand scared of facing Magnus ..... the comical unholy trinity
The 5 times world champion is sooo scared of a china man lmao
yeah the black king running behind his pawns refusing to attack was pathetic. Magnus is an egotistic coward, that´s why he never will be as respected as Fischer
@@aphextemper44 ok grandpa
magnus every time use the word 'but'
We all really know , who's the real champion.
this comment section is drunk
So many with a hard time accepting nuance and that not all chess is attacking.
When was this?
That event is such a farse. 2200-2300 strength players competing for the same prize pool as super GMs...
? Is there an open section? I thought Norway was just this closed shop...
Nobody can consistently beat Magnus on demand……that’s too much to ask for
This is why I wanted Hikaru to win WC title.
I feel like forcing a draw should win you 0.4, and your opponent gets 0.6.
You prevent your opponent from winning a full point, but give them slightly better standings
Which player forced the draw is not objectively knowable
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It is objective to say who repeated the position a third time. But you’re right, that doesn’t necessarily mean they forced it.
and the context can change during the game.
Forcing a draw when you only have a king, that’s commendable and we should encourage it.
Forcing a draw when you still have winning chances, less so.
I think what I’d like to see from this rule change is situations where a player is down material, but can counter the attack by forcing them to repeat. If the attacker fall into repetition, they only get 0.4, but if they avoid repetition and find a new way to push the attack, they still have winning chances. That would encourage dynamic play.
In addition, when players are tempted to go into a theory heaven Berlin defense and draw by repetition on move 25, it’s no longer an even trade.
Maybe the 0.6 should always go to black? Maybe whichever player has less material?
can we start just calling magnus the real world champion, i think it would help to be honest
I don't think Magnus played in the last classical World Chess Championship, so that would actually be dishonest.
More like Fortress of Magnus-Dude amirite?
Ding made a huge mistake by allowing Magnus to force a draw in Classical when he knows he will get black in the Armageddon.
Magnus is still clear number 1 and everyone knows it, including Ding.
A fortress of... _extraordinary_ magnitude? Anyone?
did they agree to a draw or was it by repetition?
It was a three peat repetition
@@michaelmassaro4375 ok so the video is wrong. thanks for confirming.
Why don’t we just agree to disagree on that?
@@LukeLongboneOfficial In chess it's a valid question if a draw is required or not when there's a three-fold repetition. I could be wrong. I now think you need the repetition AND at least one player to claim it, even though it's assumed you claim it just by playing in practical terms. So perhaps agadmador was right too.
@@jason.arthur.taylorI Don’t know too many official tournament chess rules but there are a few games in which a draw isn’t allowed until like move 40 so a repetition doesn’t necessarily end the game unless it’s claimed as a draw by the players
Has Magnus ever lost only needing a draw?
Clash of the world champions! Will they play it safe, or will they do something interesting? Oh dear, they uh... they played it very, very safe. So very safe.
Dull
Real World Champ vs Fluke😂😂
This weird chess format only favours black which isn't really fair
It’s aimed at favoring the audience by forcing players to play aggressive, attacking chess as white. It also give each player a fair chance at playing as black. So it is objectively fair.
is a rule set designed for Carlsen. Carlsen is a coward for deliberately trying to force a draw.
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You sound less energetic today. Everything alright?
gg
Finally
Yo did you make the algorithm mad. Gotham chess been spamming my feed and made me miss your tourney break downs. Come to find out I am somehow no longer subscribed? Did you change channels or something?
No way these Guys beating Fisher or Tal🤔 😤
Tal would not do well in modern times simply because gms have engine lines and are overall better defensively. Fisher another person answered above and countless times b4 but boils down to 'it depends' and 'who knows' as your answer.
Magnus had the higher ground
Actually, it's Magnus who was scared
I will wager Hikaru has something to say about this game.
Mjerkam te mjerkam posle svirke cekam.
The Black move 3...h6 is CRAP!!
(And I do NOT care if Magnus Carlsen played it!)
It is a SYMBOL of what happens when you PREPARE your openings with Computers!)
Magnus - he knows well, how to be boring
His style sucks. He plays like a computer and went for a draw. Carlsen knew he couldn´t beat Liren head on
#Suggestion Lets try to be healthy alltogether ^^