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  • @babesababe5885
    @babesababe5885 Před rokem +2360

    *“Lot of guys who watch this show never touched a girl in their lives.”* Destiny is this show’s greatest villain of all time😂

    • @ricodontworryboutit3296
      @ricodontworryboutit3296 Před rokem

      And a lot of guys touched his wife

    • @ianbenjiman
      @ianbenjiman Před rokem +156

      Not wrong, their chat is so brainless. Nothing but W's and L's.

    • @davidsejas8452
      @davidsejas8452 Před rokem

      Most guys that watch them have been used and or ignored by girls because they’re simps instead of focusing on themselves myron says stop being a lazy shit and complaining about problems and do something about it while destiny just makes excuses for degenerates and lazy people all the time so id rather listen to the one that told me to become the best version of myself the one that gave me the advice to move on from my toxic cheating ex imma listen to the one that helped me become the guy that was able to attract the best girl i could find and its not about looks its about mentality my current girl was with me at my lowest and she deserves everything i can give her so she deserves a complete monogamous relationship with her because she earned it im not listening to the cuck that has a degenerate relationship cus thats what it is an open relationship where you both go fkn around other people is just degenerate and fkd up no respect for eachother fucking around with other people is easy showing restraint is showing respect to your partner im not listening to the guy who has to always come up with excuses i rather listen to the one that’ll give me a game plan to be better and the one that told me im a grown adult i can make make my own decisions anything that happens to me is my fault and im the one in full control i have the power to do whats right whenever i hear destiny its always do what you want theres always an excuse thats no role model thats a grown child

    • @shadowingmirror4634
      @shadowingmirror4634 Před rokem +7

      @@ianbenjimanprobably say a lot about you to

    • @ianbenjiman
      @ianbenjiman Před rokem +52

      @@shadowingmirror4634 what?

  • @kjojo5403
    @kjojo5403 Před rokem +545

    They can’t fathom the idea that a woman would rather be single and alone than with a shitty partner. 😂

    • @BabalonNuit
      @BabalonNuit Před rokem +49

      That tired old trope about "cats"; well, better cats than an abusive selfish self-absorbed cheater.

    • @Nah-ah
      @Nah-ah Před rokem +31

      Fact of the matter is single women and married men are the happiest people in society! Have a guess who’s not happy? The married mothers!
      Yet these guys want to call single women “lonely, bitter cat women”! It’s like, sure.. whatever you say! 😆

    • @leilameow9582
      @leilameow9582 Před rokem +13

      @@BabalonNuit Cats have better personalities than a lot of men lol. My cat can tell when I'm feeling sad and comes to comfort me and respects my boundaries, he doesn't persist when i push his paw away cause im tired and don't feel like petting him. You know you are doing something wrong when a furry animal is a better companion than you.

    • @BabalonNuit
      @BabalonNuit Před rokem +13

      @@leilameow9582 Cats are definitely GREAT companions!

    • @kaylaleave
      @kaylaleave Před 4 měsíci

      Dogs are better

  • @yahussain1272
    @yahussain1272 Před rokem +665

    My mom divorced my dad after non stop physical abuse, she raised me and my siblings alone in a one bedroom apartment while my dad had a big house in the suburbs and his cars. Child support was a joke. My mom did not remarry in fact chose to stay single because she wanted to focus on us, my dad on the other hand had a bunch of affairs during the marriage and messed around after the divorce too. My mom struggled big time.

    • @sabrinastarks7868
      @sabrinastarks7868 Před rokem +69

      THIS happens far more often than not... but hear a guy tell it and it will be "I cheated/became promiscuous because I was depressed" or some other variation on "it's not my fault". It's one thing to recognize you need psychological help... it's a whole other thing to blame your bad behavior on your emotional instability. Too many people nowadays (men AND women) have let their emotions run rampant, run the show and run their lives into the ground. The only difference is men are just NOW getting to see what the emotional turmoil is really all about in all it's hellish glory. For better or worse, they are getting more in tune with their actual feelings. The ramifications are proving to be the ultimate "shyt show" for most.

    • @Kekoa552
      @Kekoa552 Před rokem +29

      I feel like it the assumption that woman get child support full percent which is not always the case
      I’ve seen people in my life single mothers leave with nothing a IN YOUR CASE ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT living in poverty

    • @someguy3414
      @someguy3414 Před rokem +40

      My parents divorced when I was an infant. The amount of child support my mom received was a joke. My dad all but checked out of my life and went on to remarry and have a successful contracting business. My mom raised me in a tiny apartment and then eventually moved in with my grandma. She worked her ass off, made a good salary with the federal government (a career that spanned 43 years), made sure I never was left without necessities, and supported my social and physical growth through sports and outside of school activities. Because of this, she wasn't able to afford buying her own home again until retirement. Raising kids the right way and doing the best you absolutely can as a single mother is end-game boss level difficult. FnF have zero basis of reality and are just scamming young and vulnerable men out of money they shouldn't be spending on poison like them.

    • @lynnespinoza4736
      @lynnespinoza4736 Před rokem +21

      ​@@Kekoa552I honestly don't know a single woman who got child support. Those baby daddies are either in jail or on the run, otherwise they would be fighting in court for their kid. Which I only heard of once, it was my bio dad and he turned out to be p3do. Thank God the court didn't grant access.

    • @oldtimer5316
      @oldtimer5316 Před rokem +14

      Your mom sounds like an amazing woman.

  • @theseeker7692
    @theseeker7692 Před rokem +190

    I love how 7:00 tells Destiny to stop being emotional as he continously shows data while F&F are saying "Trust me bro"

    • @trugoblin7578
      @trugoblin7578 Před rokem +2

      Destiny be using studies from the 90s to support his arguments lol this is why the lead attorney be whoopin him in a debate.

    • @Nish.05
      @Nish.05 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@trugoblin7578From the 90's the man says. The stats are worse now for women. do your fucking research

    • @5bandanaz
      @5bandanaz Před 11 měsíci

      @@trugoblin7578we gonna see

    • @juanvazquez5836
      @juanvazquez5836 Před měsícem

      I swear these people are living in a different dimension

    • @douglassgarvey653
      @douglassgarvey653 Před 27 dny

      Exactly! He brings facts and they don’t. First sign that someone is speaking from emotions 😂

  • @TheEvilKingStan
    @TheEvilKingStan Před rokem +2035

    Myron is the perfect example of someone who comes up with the argument and then works backwards to find evidence. I don't understand why people actually respect what he has to say since he clearly has no sources

    • @ahtech1990
      @ahtech1990 Před rokem +165

      Because people don't have critical thinking skills. You're dead on correct though.

    • @Personarose
      @Personarose Před rokem +96

      Even when he does have sources he winds up misinterpreting the information

    • @kensword73
      @kensword73 Před rokem +11

      You act like everybody doesn’t have preconceived notions. Literally every human does this at some point.

    • @SomersBugtopia
      @SomersBugtopia Před rokem +64

      @@kensword73 That’s not what they’re saying. We have biases but not everybody has to argue backwards.

    • @ahtech1990
      @ahtech1990 Před rokem +31

      @Kensword you can have preconceived notions and not have them interfere with your ability to actively reason out the truth.
      Arriving at a conclusion on personal bias is understandable, but when shown the fact of the matter, you have to put that aside.
      Myron has been challenged on this stuff before and hell be shown the truth again and again if bet but he never gets his head out of his ass.

  • @francisikwueme1688
    @francisikwueme1688 Před rokem +857

    The same guys that say women’s value decrease with age , divorcée , have kids are now saying single mums “ get wife’s up all the time smh.

    • @Erikshan
      @Erikshan Před rokem

      Because your brain cannot comprehend that those 2 can exist simultaneously. Just like value of a girl doing OF is garbage but that does not mean she is not earning thousands and millions and do not have men line up to date them.

    • @roguis3451
      @roguis3451 Před rokem +82

      @@DisinfoWatch going by the data, no there ain't

    • @JamesTheSecond01
      @JamesTheSecond01 Před rokem +7

      @@roguis3451 what data

    • @deistormmods
      @deistormmods Před rokem +5

      Those two things don't contradict. Women do have a way easier time finding a partner. They might not date them, someone else will though.

    • @roguis3451
      @roguis3451 Před rokem +79

      @@JamesTheSecond01 " The remarriage rate is higher for men than women. The remarriage rate for men in 2019 was 31.5 per 1,000 men eligible for remarriage. The rate for women was significantly lower, at only 19.4 per 1,000 women eligible for remarriage.
      This data indicates that men are consistently more likely to attempt a second marriage than women. "
      By: berenjifamilylaw

  • @chrismizuno239
    @chrismizuno239 Před rokem +98

    "Alot of guys watching the show, have never touched a girl in their lives" Destiny for the win🎉

  • @brizzNcheese
    @brizzNcheese Před rokem +141

    He literally explained everything to them to the detail, and Myron really just repeats himself again as if nothing was said at all.
    He’s lost. Myron needs help.

    • @Sweatha44
      @Sweatha44 Před 8 měsíci +5

      Myron needs *deletion*.

    • @elijahalesana8150
      @elijahalesana8150 Před 6 měsíci +1

      As an attorney I’ll tell you now Myron is right and destiny is wrong

    • @brizzNcheese
      @brizzNcheese Před 6 měsíci +10

      @@elijahalesana8150yeah buddy, you’re called a fringe example. If you research this information, and believe it or not there are more lawyers out there, you’d realize how wrong you are.
      Sit down man. Please.

    • @elijahalesana8150
      @elijahalesana8150 Před 6 měsíci

      @@brizzNcheese 😘

    • @brizzNcheese
      @brizzNcheese Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@elijahalesana8150
      Why are you blowing me kisses? Are you like Alan Dershowitz? 🙅🏻

  • @AppleBaron
    @AppleBaron Před rokem +1312

    "It's not even debatable" damn, such a good argument, almost as strong as "It's just common sense".

    • @missinterpretation4984
      @missinterpretation4984 Před rokem +12

      I’m going to remember that one!

    • @chrisbriscoe7138
      @chrisbriscoe7138 Před rokem +17

      Trust me bro

    • @kingrainbow5432
      @kingrainbow5432 Před rokem

      Bro I know a man who got divorced and his d--k fell off

    • @MrLogs1239
      @MrLogs1239 Před rokem +54

      He's actually right, it's not debatable
      Literally every study I've seen on this shows that men get screwed less by divorce

    • @BornOnThursday
      @BornOnThursday Před rokem +27

      ​@@MrLogs1239 Have you considered how Myron feels, lol jk

  • @TonyCox1351
    @TonyCox1351 Před rokem +970

    Who does F&F think should raise the kid after the divorce? Men? Because they do a lot of “women are biologically designed to raise kids, men should go out and be the breadwinner” but after divorce it’s like “oh nooo she shouldn’t get custody”

    • @Dogan_TM
      @Dogan_TM Před rokem

      Depends on which way shits on women more at the time.

    • @Shams-fe6lq
      @Shams-fe6lq Před rokem +105

      Also in their recent vid they said it’s the mom’s fault for choosing a bad man if he leaves the children.

    • @Macheako
      @Macheako Před rokem +48

      @@Shams-fe6lq she does bear some responsibility when the guy is obviously non-committal.
      I’m not gonna let Chris browns 18 different baby mommas slide bro 😂😂❤

    • @TonyCox1351
      @TonyCox1351 Před rokem +63

      @@Shams-fe6lq there’s that good ol’ redpill accountability for ya!

    • @eigna8914
      @eigna8914 Před rokem

      Or any money.

  • @mauroblack6284
    @mauroblack6284 Před rokem +41

    Unfortunately the manosphere/rp has created a lot of guys with one of the worst traits to have as a man, being a victim

  • @thegreatestever913
    @thegreatestever913 Před rokem +168

    "Women have an abundance mindset which is why they initiate divorce"
    *Also myron: "women want just 1 man, whereas men want more women therefore only men can sleep around"
    "Women have an abundance mindset which is why they initiate divorce"
    *also myron: "men should get an abundance mindset that way both men and women can break up with each other more"

    • @thegreatestever913
      @thegreatestever913 Před rokem

      How is it that he thinks women have the power in s3x but he's trying to take that power away and give it to men to abuse it

    • @sevensages5279
      @sevensages5279 Před rokem

      Myron is an insecure, beta, goblin.

    • @grandmidoister8661
      @grandmidoister8661 Před rokem +4

      Well to explain Myron’s first point:
      If women have an abundance mindset that means they can divorce their current husband (who isn’t the “one man” they want to spend their life with) and find/get with that “one man” because they think they deserve more than what their current man can provide and that “one man” must be out there.
      I don’t understand your interpretation of the second point you noted from Myron though.

    • @nickelback3360
      @nickelback3360 Před rokem +8

      It’s almost as if he’s a short term thinker only interested in pleasure

    • @haquebe1701
      @haquebe1701 Před rokem

      Yes what that means is when they are searching for the best partner they're very picky because of the abundance mindset and ultimately when they find the best man they want 1 man. Whereas even when men find the best woman they still want other women now and then

  • @Fm83473
    @Fm83473 Před rokem +185

    Every time fresh opens his mouth i know he is about to say something stupid

    • @crowley3000
      @crowley3000 Před rokem +14

      he’s not even dislikeable, he’s just goofy

    • @kassandramarie3789
      @kassandramarie3789 Před rokem +5

      Fresh more like rancid

    • @isaacdeanda3364
      @isaacdeanda3364 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Something like "Imagine a woman is like fruit and man is like a... timeshare"🤣

    • @TheMudsnake
      @TheMudsnake Před 3 měsíci +2

      2:28

    • @sounddoctrine6159
      @sounddoctrine6159 Před 3 měsíci +1

      You are better than me if you can understand what he even says.

  • @isaiahthomas6744
    @isaiahthomas6744 Před rokem +323

    The extrapolation that b/c women initiate divorce is b/c they are playing a 4D long game is ridiculous

    • @deistormmods
      @deistormmods Před rokem

      So 80% of the time, it's the man's fault?

    • @Olyrous
      @Olyrous Před rokem +6

      Promiscuity and the option of easy divorces has made it so that women are not that discerning about whom they have children with. It's quite sad actually to see them fall for bad men all the time and forego better men because they are boring in their eyes.

    • @srslee5966
      @srslee5966 Před rokem +44

      ​@@Olyrous crazy how divorce rates have actually gone down over the last 20 years

    • @SF-op5ix
      @SF-op5ix Před rokem +35

      @@Olyrous no male responsibility as usual

    • @pvtghost117
      @pvtghost117 Před rokem +34

      @@SF-op5ix these people literally just rather go on their fefes than look at data, then turn around and call women emotional lol

  • @ChibiViolin
    @ChibiViolin Před rokem +49

    I like how divorced women suddenly turned into single moms 😂

    • @Maximum7077
      @Maximum7077 Před 9 dny

      Disney , I mean destiny trying to manipulate the conversation.

  • @ivordundic6095
    @ivordundic6095 Před rokem +20

    Isn't it Fresh and Fit who have been the front runners the last year of " men don't date single moms because they aren't worth dating because you as a man have to deal with a child that isn't yours", yet here they claim divorced moms get the better outcome as a single person after the divorce?
    They're arguing against themselves

    • @Maximum7077
      @Maximum7077 Před 9 dny +1

      They say man are getting less out of it . Where you even watching the video ?

  • @nothinguntouchedpodcast
    @nothinguntouchedpodcast Před rokem +451

    People really do think woman are getting 8k for child support for every case 😂. It's really not like that

    • @Bai_Su_Zhen
      @Bai_Su_Zhen Před rokem +43

      Why is it even an argument? Isn't child support supposed to be money you use to feed and take care of the kid? Like even if the costs of it were 20k and the women got that much, why would that ever be a win for the woman? It's just an extra responsibility to take care of a child whose dad has fucked off. It's hardly in any woman's interest to cause a break-up after she's married with a kid. Also, I don't know how it is in the US, but in my country, divorcees get half of the shit that the couple *acquired* *when* *together* . You don't get to just marry, divorce, take his shit.

    • @CousinBowling
      @CousinBowling Před rokem +16

      ​@@Bai_Su_ZhenMy friend gave like 50% of his salary to his ex for child support....

    • @johnnywalker984
      @johnnywalker984 Před rokem +11

      so the guy making 2k a month giving a 304 1200$ of it aint no problem cause its not 8k man you in for a treat in life good luck

    • @plutotech
      @plutotech Před rokem +4

      ​@@CousinBowling what was he making a year?

    • @womenstriving8960
      @womenstriving8960 Před rokem +25

      @@CousinBowling i mean most of your money goes to child care… that’s why people with kids can’t just go on holidays… they buy food, diapers, have you seen the price of baby clothes, a child lives in a house so rent tf, raising a child will take more than 50% of your salary especially if you want to give them a good life

  • @onyx9857
    @onyx9857 Před rokem +670

    I work in family court and i can tell you women “win” in court because women are far more likely to stick around for their kid. We get a ton of dads who haven’t seen their kid in 5 years and come in asking for 50-50 so that they don’t have to pay child support. When the judge says “No. you have to work your way up to 50-50 because you are a stranger to this child” the dad’s dip out crying about their “loss” when in fact the dad did this to himself.

    • @misha-lo9nx
      @misha-lo9nx Před rokem +138

      imagine if they actually brought in professionals with experiences in the fields they spread misinformation about, like divorce/family lawyers, psychologists, nurses/obgyns/long term care workers, sociologists, etc. so they can educate these men and show them how life works outside their podcast studio 😭

    • @srslee5966
      @srslee5966 Před rokem +72

      ​@Silver yeah that's a fantasy. Men abandoning their kids and thinking they're God's gift because they pay child support is a tale as old as time.

    • @SF-op5ix
      @SF-op5ix Před rokem +102

      @@Silverwidows Most women work…and they’re in their child’s life. The excuse of men being too busy with work to see their child more than once a year is a LIE.

    • @SF-op5ix
      @SF-op5ix Před rokem +28

      @@Silverwidows staying at home or having a part time job does not exist for single moms and single dads.

    • @johnchristopher3032
      @johnchristopher3032 Před rokem +5

      ​@@misha-lo9nx They would make Destiny look bad. He knows nothing about this topic. He sounds almost as bad as FnF for once.

  • @markharrison6498
    @markharrison6498 Před rokem +134

    As someone who’s parents divorced and my dad took the house, the car, didn’t have to pay child support and wasted all our money in court I really appreciate these talking points. We didn’t have beds or money for anything other than jam toast for dinner for months after the separation.
    Dad kept all of the 15,000 acre property he owned and we got nothing. The value of the water on that property was 10 million dollars back in the late 90s.

    • @mrgomelonsolaris
      @mrgomelonsolaris Před rokem +5

      "didn’t have to pay child support" - courts will allow that situation only if he is the one that the kids live with. Child support superseeds any kind of prenup. Your situation is some outlier.

    • @markharrison6498
      @markharrison6498 Před rokem +17

      @@mrgomelonsolaris dad lied about his income. He paid a ridiculously small amount for my sister and I. It was approximately 5 dollars per month for the two of us. My wife had a similar experience.
      Being hyperbolic of course but $100 per year for two kids is nothing.
      My Mum was a victim of a physically abusive marriage and didn’t fight hard enough in court to be fair. Dad lied about everything and used his family’s money to afford more expensive lawyers. His plan was to bankrupt us and he would have if mum didn’t eventually threaten to make a claim against the farm which caused him to back off.

    • @aaaa-xf3hx
      @aaaa-xf3hx Před rokem +7

      @@markharrison6498 your situation is still an outlier, the truth is somewhere in between I think.
      Divorce is not fun for either the man or the women, this idea that either party is living it large, loving life straight after a divorce is complete fantasy apart from very rare exceptions.
      Breaking up any sort of serious long term relationship is going to be hard for 99% of people and not just a random impulse decision

    • @markharrison6498
      @markharrison6498 Před rokem

      @@aaaa-xf3hx i 100% agree with you. I think the now commonly believed myth that men are the true victims of divorce and women generally take all the money is pure fantasy though. While worse off than they would have been if still married, generally the person who doesn’t get custody of the kids is better off financially. Kids are expensive as fuck and I’ve never heard a divorced dad whinge about a child support figure that even seems adequate enough to properly care for a child.
      The only way we were able to get out of poverty is because mum married another divorced dad.

    • @erniechipdouglas9779
      @erniechipdouglas9779 Před rokem +1

      ​@mrgomelonsolaris child support is a system anyone self employed can get round. Don't believe the lies about the system benefitting women

  • @moedanglez
    @moedanglez Před rokem +22

    All Destiny had to ask each of them is “would you date a single mom?”

    • @NoctisCaelus
      @NoctisCaelus Před rokem +4

      Exactly! They actually advocate to avoid a single mom like the plague.

  • @bramlangebeeke5330
    @bramlangebeeke5330 Před rokem +1263

    Destiny is doing gods work trying to talk sense in F&F. I would have gave up so much earlier.

    • @Scardor
      @Scardor Před rokem +1

      given*

    • @dmitrysamoilov5989
      @dmitrysamoilov5989 Před rokem

      simp

    • @cakeboss1721
      @cakeboss1721 Před rokem

      His wife gets semen dumped in her by other men and you think destiny is a good role model for men 😂

    • @aos5929
      @aos5929 Před rokem

      Destiny is a homosexual who’s his wife has a boyfriend I mean a cuck he’s degenerate he can’t do Gods work

    • @esco819
      @esco819 Před rokem +37

      What a weak man😂 imagine looking up to that blue haired lesbian

  • @Tami-po3gr
    @Tami-po3gr Před rokem +650

    It’s scary how wrong they are here. How can they influence people and be so damn wrong on easily provable things.

    • @Olyrous
      @Olyrous Před rokem +19

      What are they wrong about? Men are hurt after a divorce financially and in terms of their relationship with their children - is that not true? Single mothers may have more trouble finding a second partner afterwards and do all or most of the caretaking, but wasn't that their plan when they file for divorce? When are women going to take responsibility for their choices?

    • @ne0nmancer
      @ne0nmancer Před rokem +86

      ​@@Olyrous Women are worse off financially after divorce.
      You also seem to imply that the only reason a woman would divorce is to replace her husband, that's just stupid.

    • @brandonparedes7540
      @brandonparedes7540 Před rokem

      ​@jamestownsassacre9211 where do your morales come from? How do you decide what's good and what's evil?

    • @kylebiggles5973
      @kylebiggles5973 Před rokem +31

      @@Olyrous Show me where women arent taking responsibility for their actions by wanting a divorce. You're still missing the point entirely that a woman will not divorce and leave their child with separated parents unless it is necessary. Stop being so dense. They're not replacing their husband, they're taking care of themselves despite the challenges they'll face afterward.

    • @Olyrous
      @Olyrous Před rokem +2

      @@ne0nmancer I think the statistics might give that picture because divorces are most common among poor people. The legal system is indeed trying to financially compensate the woman for divorcing her man and then some. However, it does not always succeed because the man is so poor he can barely sustain himself on his own. And in that case women's calculation is that they would be better off finding a replacement for their poor partner rather than have to live with his limited means. How successful they are in doing so is a different matter though; hence the epidemic of delusional single women.

  • @Flyzo.0
    @Flyzo.0 Před rokem +16

    Fresh be saying “that’s the point!” So often. I don’t think he even know what the fuck the “point” is 🤣🤣🤣

  • @kuramafox1290
    @kuramafox1290 Před rokem +131

    In a room full of people of people who have opposite ideologies, and viewpoints Destiny is articulate and intelligent enough to defend himself as well as a counterattack. And that too, he holds his ground all alone with rational facts and logic, which is really commendable.

    • @JackTheCool115
      @JackTheCool115 Před 11 měsíci

      Destiny is dumb

    • @eluddite889
      @eluddite889 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Destiny is trying to argue that single moms fair worse after divorce while never acknowledging that the entire reason single moms and old women fair worse is women are hypergamous in general.

    • @kuramafox1290
      @kuramafox1290 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@eluddite889 fair enough, hypergamy is disgusting.

    • @eluddite889
      @eluddite889 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@kuramafox1290 I don't think there's anything wrong with it, it's very normal. But women don't understand that they are, meaning men on average will never be successful being hypergamous, which is why men date younger.

    • @silentwitness536
      @silentwitness536 Před měsícem

      Destiny contradicted himself. @ 0:22 vs 7:00

  • @tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957

    Average&ObjectivelyUgly ignore the fact that the majority of broken marriages are between people who were not wealthy, and therefore do not result in the woman making off with money and/or assets because there were none to begin with.

    • @esco819
      @esco819 Před rokem +4

      But the guy still has to pay child support and alimony😂 no matter if he's rich or not

    • @tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957
      @tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957 Před rokem +23

      @@esco819 the amount you pay is proportional to how much you earn though... Often zero, if the guy doesn't earn over a certain amount
      Meanwhile, the mother is burdened with the children regardless

    • @esco819
      @esco819 Před rokem +1

      @Tarqin Quentinsson - obviously not my real name doesn't matter because he still has to get a job and who cares about the single mom. She should've dated a better man. It's on them lol

    • @lac7141
      @lac7141 Před rokem

      Fit really is a hideous individual, looks like some kid of pug/human hybrid. Wish more of the guests on his show would make him aware of this

    • @tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957
      @tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957 Před rokem +15

      @@esco819 what are you talking about? The father isn't mandated by the state to get a job and earn enough so that he meets the threshold to pay child support
      Is it not the man's responsibility to be "high value" enough, so that the mother of his children doesn't leave him?

  • @verberus5277
    @verberus5277 Před rokem +136

    They are stuck in this "Men vs Women" mindset. They feel divorce fucks guys, which it can, so it MUST benefit the women. But the reality is, Divorce fucks both parties and Destiny is correct that historically it fucks women harder. Sure, women may get custody and child support and in a minority of cases alimony, but Children ,as great as they are , are a burden in time and money. Alimony and Child Support are at then end of the day a loss because while married they had access to the totality of their partners resources generally now they have reduced access to those resources. FnF are framing it as "Man has 100, Wife has 0 and post Divorce Man has 50 and Woman has 50, so the woman only gains" but that's simply not accurate. Realistically Divorce, even if necessary, is just a loss for both sides, and if a woman doesn't have an established career and has to take care of a logistical burden, it's worse for them. Doesn't mean the guy is doing great, but the negatives just are more for the women.

    • @malimal4972
      @malimal4972 Před rokem +4

      women don't realize or believe it will be worse and if they are unhappy for one day think it's ground for a divorce and that they will be better off with a kid , but they find out that isn't always the case

    • @Silverwidows
      @Silverwidows Před rokem

      divorce ultimately fucks the child the most, coming from a divorced family, i have the experience to see and feel it first hand. Both my parents are doing fine, im fucked in the head

    • @chibaby800
      @chibaby800 Před rokem +23

      @@malimal4972 stop thinking with the mentality that women are just oblivious to the consequences of divorce because they think there’s some benefit to it. Most women thay divorce hate it and might have even been persuaded to leave a toxic situation by people who care for them . People weigh their options but just know that staying in the relationship is worse for them than leaving

    • @malimal4972
      @malimal4972 Před rokem +3

      @@chibaby800 you think every women who divorcés is better off is just ridiculous

    • @srslee5966
      @srslee5966 Před rokem +10

      @@malimal4972 the majority are. It's incredibly common for divorced women to say(and act on) never remarrying at all because their husband's were more of a burden

  • @boylamont3449
    @boylamont3449 Před rokem +12

    “Real men shouldn’t be emotional”
    “Life after divorce is really hard on men and we should care about their feelings so they don’t Roblox themselves.”

  • @missinterpretation4984
    @missinterpretation4984 Před rokem +104

    They piece together a story that could be true and then that’s the narrative and it’s “undebatable!” They’ll hear no facts to the contrary 😂

    • @johnnyb5534
      @johnnyb5534 Před rokem

      Destiny just takes whatever the left's position is and then scours to web to find evidence that supports it while ignoring the overwhelming evidence that goes against it. His takes are generally terrible, he just says them with confidence.

  • @modernlegacy5555
    @modernlegacy5555 Před rokem +80

    Destiny coming through with common sense 🙌🏾.

    • @esco819
      @esco819 Před rokem

      Weak ass fan girl😂

    • @uruinsec1624
      @uruinsec1624 Před rokem

      liberal soyboy sense

    • @VARMOT123
      @VARMOT123 Před rokem +7

      @@uruinsec1624 as opposite to conservative domestic violence sense

    • @laurencameron3150
      @laurencameron3150 Před rokem +7

      @@uruinsec1624 I thought it was facts over feelings tho

    • @happilyevernever4289
      @happilyevernever4289 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@laurencameron3150
      More like delusion over delusion. Both sides can be extremely blind to facts.

  • @Solar-Atlas
    @Solar-Atlas Před rokem +150

    Dating a single mom is not for me personally, but I would never look down on a man willing to take on that responsibility. The fact that they are willing to take on that responsibility is admirable and there are plenty of success stories where the child grows up and looks back fondly on their step parent being an important part in their lives as a parental figure. Calling them simps is just ridiculous. Sometimes they are good men with good values believe it or not.

    • @ihanakaunotar2741
      @ihanakaunotar2741 Před rokem +37

      Honestly, I think a man willing to marry and raise a good citizen even if the kid isn’t theirs is quite honorable.

    • @Sevr-ln7kk
      @Sevr-ln7kk Před rokem +7

      its not "admirable" at all. that makes no sense.

    • @elpanin5113
      @elpanin5113 Před rokem

      Honestly in its entirety no fucking shit it's admirable to raise a child that didn't ask to be in this world you're supposed to do it idiotic thinking bro smh.

    • @roninthesecond3600
      @roninthesecond3600 Před rokem

      A man dating a single mom is mistake

    • @oliverivers
      @oliverivers Před rokem +16

      @ Sev3r333 That’s kind of like your opinion, man, so it doesn’t have to make sense to you. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t make sense to the rest of us who are NOT judgmental.

  • @elenhin
    @elenhin Před rokem +144

    Awesome job Destiny, finally cutting through these lies.

    • @EB-db9de
      @EB-db9de Před 8 měsíci +1

      Too bad they'll just continue on spewing these lies. It's their entire brand.

  • @2ndsebringsucks
    @2ndsebringsucks Před rokem +119

    Here’s the thing with F&F: Even when they’ve got a decent theory on something that could plausibly be true, they hardly ever have data to back it up. The argue on the side that they feel they should based on their ideology and whatever is in Tomassi’s book.

    • @Otingocni
      @Otingocni Před rokem +10

      And destiny didn't show one statistic the whole video either so not sure what your point is supposed to be. We all can fall in the trap of just blindly trusting some sources while demanding proof of every minutia from those we do not trust.

    • @Kuroganemk2
      @Kuroganemk2 Před rokem +5

      @@Otingocni That's what he does, it's a debate tactic. It's kind of their fault for not being able to back it up even if what Destiny is saying is probably not the whole truth either. I'd argue that a single mom still has an easier time finding another man vs the daddy that's under child support lol

    • @willenhall12345
      @willenhall12345 Před rokem +9

      @@Otingocni He told them exactly what to look up to find the statistics but they didn't, who's fault is that?

    • @ne0nmancer
      @ne0nmancer Před rokem +7

      ​@@Otingocni Destiny had a data driven debate with these guys like last week or something, the data for most of his points here is there.

    • @Otingocni
      @Otingocni Před rokem

      @@ne0nmancer that is irrelevant to this particular thread so why bring up an old point?

  • @lilryry664
    @lilryry664 Před rokem +29

    That's so true about child support where I grew up dudes would be bitching about having to pay like $50 a week, and it's like it your kid bro lol

  • @thebruh9547
    @thebruh9547 Před rokem +11

    "Women are capable of experiencing hardship"
    " W H A T ! ? "

  • @eroegen987
    @eroegen987 Před rokem +101

    The way Destiny used Myron's logic against him was lovely.
    Especially the single mom argument

    • @i.o4766
      @i.o4766 Před rokem

      Actually, that argument made no sense lmao. They get child support. The women fare way better

    • @eroegen987
      @eroegen987 Před rokem +5

      @@i.o4766 so they get child support. They're still a single mom. Men for the most part don't want single mom. So she is a woman, single, with kids but she doing better cause she gets child support. So she's doing better than a man that will still have options and still be able to start over.
      Yeah ok

    • @i.o4766
      @i.o4766 Před rokem

      @@eroegen987 she has options too lmao. Wtf you mean? There are govt programs that take care of women. My aunt did the same thing and so did 2 of my sisters. They ended up being in better positions than the dudes. One of my sisters now works for the govt. You're going to really say there's no help for these women? You're out of your mind lmao

    • @MoonMoon-fx1op
      @MoonMoon-fx1op Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@eroegen987😂😂 don't even start speaking common sense

    • @user-ff2dy1wt7r
      @user-ff2dy1wt7r Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@i.o4766 and just because they get it doesn't mean that the dude pays it

  • @Shams-fe6lq
    @Shams-fe6lq Před rokem +42

    These people always talk about numbers where it benefits their narrative.
    Now when it doesn’t in case of divorce they bring up rare things like suicide and then also “men are probably more depressed after divorce” without any evidence and also always make fun of mental health stuff specially sneaky.

    • @ARTDEVGRU247
      @ARTDEVGRU247 Před rokem +2

      Yep they're clowns

    • @Fm83473
      @Fm83473 Před rokem

      It's sneako😢

    • @sucram1018
      @sucram1018 Před rokem +2

      Right! But when women brought up exceptions to the rule. Myron, Fresh, Sneako and others part of the FreshandFit or if they were guests included would dismiss the women's points, exceptions and say they're talking in generalities. Now all of a sudden FreshandFit are for the exception to the rule. 😂😂😂

    • @deistormmods
      @deistormmods Před rokem

      Do you need evidence to prove that most men will be depressed after losing custody and half of their assets?

    • @sucram1018
      @sucram1018 Před rokem +6

      ​@@deistormmods Yes, because if your going to make a claim in a debate, back it up. But when women bring up generalities y'all want to dismiss the exception to the rule when it doesn't benefit the FreshandFit argument.

  • @SasKP
    @SasKP Před rokem +48

    That ending was legendary, just perfect

    • @johnnywalker984
      @johnnywalker984 Před rokem

      yeah it proves everything he said is cap. Men arent even getting laid

    • @Queef_Storm
      @Queef_Storm Před rokem +9

      @@johnnywalker984 No, just FandF fans

    • @creyzi4j
      @creyzi4j Před rokem

      @@Queef_Storm ahahah..burn!

    • @EmeraldaKasim
      @EmeraldaKasim Před rokem

      @@Queef_Storm Nah, like 60% of men 18-30

    • @Queef_Storm
      @Queef_Storm Před rokem

      @@EmeraldaKasim Can you provide a source for that?

  • @poadude
    @poadude Před rokem +82

    Myron is obsessed with this “power struggle”. Along with the idea of “holding frame” I don’t get how this doesn’t just feel of insecurity to anybody who has had a serious relationship. Unironically saying things like “I want a girl who loves me more than I love her”. It’s weak and pathetic.

    • @lilstevechan8427
      @lilstevechan8427 Před rokem

      I don't think Myron has ever had an adult relationship. Most of his opinions come from some halfassed assumption on how things work based on the framework of "men are persecuted by society, women are soulless manipulators." He can't rationally fathom the inverse ever being true.

    • @phantasticmrphasma9874
      @phantasticmrphasma9874 Před rokem +7

      It’s very revealing of his weak history. F&F are what i call ‘first time losers’. They spend their life trying to validate their early-life failings

    • @yasuke3020
      @yasuke3020 Před rokem

      Because Myron is the kind of nigga that wants to be the victim, at every turn. He CANNOT operate from a position of power, he HAS to be the victim.
      Can't have pity for a clown that listens to this garbage and takes it as truth. You WILL be alone forever, or end up a rapist. You deserve it.

    • @darkrood
      @darkrood Před rokem +3

      He doesn't wanna feel vulnerable or be at a position "NOT THE ONLY EXPERT".
      FnF would never have a panel of ACTUAL researchers with DATA showing their points. Myron would get chewed out so many times for lying, FROM ALL SIDES.
      It's way easier to dunk on young girls who barely graduate from colleges.

  • @ediewyse
    @ediewyse Před rokem +10

    I’ve heard them say on this very show, that women who have kids aren’t preferred in the dating market…bro like what??? Did they change their minds?! I wanna see them wife up a single mother. I don’t believe it till I see it.

  • @saga685
    @saga685 Před rokem +25

    They keep ignoring the fact that alimony & child support is spent on the children. Ex wives aren't living it large on these payouts, and if the guy got custody, he'd be spending that money on the kids anyway.
    And even with men paying alimony, on average they're financially better off than women in the long term.
    These guys care more about winning than the well being of their children.

    • @uns33n
      @uns33n Před rokem +4

      Alimony is for the wife. child support is for the child. I agree with your main point, but alimony is spousal support.

    • @Lipanj92
      @Lipanj92 Před rokem +1

      ​@@uns33n No, it's not. Look it up. Or you're just assuming.

    • @saga685
      @saga685 Před rokem +1

      @s33n I was under the assumption it was for women who have had children, but you are right. However, it still isn't the gold-digging opportunity Fresh & Fit make it out to be.
      Its arbitrated by state in the US, but Alimony is either awarded temporarily, to rehabilitate a spouse, to reimburse them for expenses during the marriage, or for life. The latter would only be awarded in very specific circumstances that probably don't apply to 90% of divorces. In most cases it seems like it's intended to redress the financial imbalance in the relationship, not for women to "cash out".
      That also doesn't counter my original point. The ex-wives will likely need that money, because otherwise it impacts their ability to care for the children.

    • @uns33n
      @uns33n Před rokem

      @Saga yeah I definitely think fresh ND fit are wrong and morons. Just wanted to point out that alimony is specifically spousal support and is not tied to children whatsoever. And if there are kids involved the alimony money is not earmarked for their care.

    • @silentwitness536
      @silentwitness536 Před měsícem

      No. ITs usually spent by the mom on drugs, alcohol, fake boobs, etc

  • @womenstriving8960
    @womenstriving8960 Před rokem +71

    This is insanity 😂 They really think single mums are balling 😭 Your entire life is about that child bffr 😢 My mum wouldn’t even date when we were younger because she was either working, doing child care or resting! It was hell for her…. I wish my dad dropped some money because it was a sad situation

    • @esco819
      @esco819 Před rokem +2

      Blah blah blah

    • @aguy9071
      @aguy9071 Před rokem +1

      It’s not about balling. It’s about living a lifestyle that someone else is funding. For no other reason than she’s a woman.
      If a husband makes 60k and his wife makes 40k, by the time they divorce, the man will be worth like 30/40k and the woman worth 60k/70.
      Imagine making 50% more in wages just because you divorced your husband

    • @lampad4549
      @lampad4549 Před rokem +14

      ​@@aguy9071yeah you only get that if your lawyer is super bad, if the wife has a steady income and job while being married she doesn't usually get any money post divorce.

    • @jostnaleman3738
      @jostnaleman3738 Před rokem

      funny tho, after my parents divorce my mom was whoring with a lot of dudes while my dad was getting poor, dying of cancer and dependant of my grandmother

    • @Saiyaninterloper
      @Saiyaninterloper Před rokem

      The point is not about "balling"....

  • @douglaswhalen7065
    @douglaswhalen7065 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Myron is clearly not equipped to argue with someone who has even the slightest bit of knowledge about any subject. This dude just bullies 19year olds all day long and thinks he's an influencer. what a joke

  • @Big-Papa-Smurf
    @Big-Papa-Smurf Před rokem +58

    Another point Destiny forgot to make is that when it comes to single dads, a "high value woman" for them could just be some 18yo bimbo straight out of highschool. That's far more attainable than a single mom trying to find a wealthy/attractive single man. Single moms are competing with an entire generation of younger women. While single dads have already narrowed the competition by being financially stable and still reasonably attractive to most women. Especially if a single dad is able to demonstrate that he loves and cares for his kids, that can actually be very attractive to a lot of women.

    • @bigdawglilnuts6107
      @bigdawglilnuts6107 Před rokem +2

      In what world does a single dad have it easier than a single mom to find a relationship again? The negative connotation with being a single dad is way worse than a single mother. I don’t see very many single dads out there in the dating market being successful. And how would they be secure in their job and financial stable? Especially having a kid and being young. My mother had time to go to college and further her education and had an easier time getting a job my father did not further his education and could barely get anything. Women inherently have more opportunities now in todays age financially and education wise so I don’t know where you get that from.

    • @Big-Papa-Smurf
      @Big-Papa-Smurf Před rokem +28

      @@bigdawglilnuts6107 Why not just google before asking me? Two major factors. Single fathers earn more on average, and they tend to be older, on average, than single mothers. This means that men tend to be more financially stable after a split. As a result, the remarriage rate is much higher for men than women. This is non-controversial, just raw statistics.

    • @bigdawglilnuts6107
      @bigdawglilnuts6107 Před rokem +4

      @@Big-Papa-Smurf It doesn’t matter how much the man makes after or how much older he is. The fact is a woman’s options vastly outnumber a man’s. Whether she has a kid or not she will have more options. The dating pool for a man is already smaller and introducing a kid into a man’s life is already shrinking the small pool he has to choose from. Just based off that alone he would have a much harder time finding a relationship.

    • @toeplus1293
      @toeplus1293 Před rokem

      They agree with that and never said single moms will have better dating chances lol. Destiny was arguing that since men make more money following divorce they “do much better” doesn’t take into account the bias that family courts have when it comes to men. The men generally were making more money to begin with, so it’s a non argument. Then they are legally bound to pay child support or alimony in some cases, on a percentage basis, which is just ridiculous. IMO that’s why it’s a “nonnegotiable”. whoever earned more has more to lose, which is generally men. Then custody is a whole different story on top of it

    • @Ni-boo
      @Ni-boo Před rokem +6

      ​@@toeplus1293 child support is what the father was and would be paying anyway for his child/ren if there wasn't a divorce, no?
      I keep seeing other people posting this but apparently the whole point of alimony being a thing in the first place was because the wife didn't have any income due to her not working or having a career. I'm assuming that means if the wife works while in the marriage she doesn't qualify for alimony?

  • @jcdaniel55
    @jcdaniel55 Před rokem +14

    F&F always use the most extreme outliers to support their arguments. The just don't live in reality.

  • @wileyreid5420
    @wileyreid5420 Před rokem +15

    Listening to F&F try and cope is pure gold

  • @Channel99899
    @Channel99899 Před rokem +8

    "A lot of men who watch your show have never touched a woman in their lives" 😂😂😂😂😂 So true

  • @sng9846
    @sng9846 Před rokem +44

    I want god to rethink fresh's existence and the point of it.

    • @MrWolfy08
      @MrWolfy08 Před rokem +7

      why? he exist to make you feel smart

    • @greensciencegeek
      @greensciencegeek Před rokem +10

      That is the best insult I’ve ever heard….

    • @cephas5053
      @cephas5053 Před rokem

      Thank God that he feels the exact same way about tou

    • @uruinsec1624
      @uruinsec1624 Před rokem

      So you are a brokie soyboy, i get it

    • @maam-yj8ph
      @maam-yj8ph Před rokem

      I think I would be happy enough if God would just permanently damage his microphone 🎤.

  • @missinterpretation4984
    @missinterpretation4984 Před rokem +72

    Sneako said 85% of child support is paid by men and then said men pay child support in 85% of divorces. I don’t even think he knows those are two different things. I’m seeing 63% of custodial mothers and 38% of fathers so it’s more balanced than they think and it’s very obviously who is willing to take majority custody. If custody was so great, men would fight harder for it.

    • @esco819
      @esco819 Před rokem +8

      Found the lonely feminist

    • @creyzi4j
      @creyzi4j Před rokem +2

      You are right m. The womans’s sacrifice is bigger.

    • @creyzi4j
      @creyzi4j Před rokem +4

      @@esco819 you are wrong

    • @TheGavrael
      @TheGavrael Před rokem +7

      There's a lot you're missing. First, Destiny is off on the average. It's actualy $598-604/month average. That's a 30% error. Second, this number is further skewed by payments actually recieved.
      Most never actually pay it. If you're a woman, you have about a 33% chance of actually recieving your child support payment. If you are a man, that number is less than 9%. That's means women are 300% more likely to recieve payment than a man. And these figures include ANY form of payment, even a partial payment.
      No, it's not a windfall unless you're divorcing a .1% man. But if you are both average, court outcomes and payment schedules favor women without question.

    • @creyzi4j
      @creyzi4j Před rokem +6

      @@TheGavrael if you’re making 600/month average the court of law will not ask you to pay child support by 400/month.

  • @NathanBonline
    @NathanBonline Před rokem +8

    Its so weird that so many black men don't push back on the single mom thing, most of us were raised by single moms and i dunno about you lot but I wasn't living the good life till i could work.

  • @Tam-Ruh4856
    @Tam-Ruh4856 Před rokem +11

    They clearly don’t know how child support works. Like Destiny said. A man bringing in $1,000 a month (which is insanely low, how are they even taking care of themselves) would not be paying $400/mon in child support. He’d probably pay $100 if that. I have a family member who only gets $18 a month because the man is unemployed 🙄.

  • @typehazard
    @typehazard Před rokem +9

    How can they say single moms fair better in the dating scene and then say to all the men don't date a single mom?

    • @JamesTheSecond01
      @JamesTheSecond01 Před rokem

      Because single moms will have more options to sleep with than a single man
      & they say don’t wife a single mom because the kid comes with extra expenses , maybe baby daddy drama , & most of the times you won’t be able to discipline the kid because it’s not yours , or the kid has a I don’t need to listen to you you’re not my dad mentality. So the manage risk you wife a woman without kids and raise your own family.
      Two things can be true at once

    • @deistormmods
      @deistormmods Před rokem +1

      I'm not sure why you don't get what they mean? You can have both cases.

    • @MsLittlet97
      @MsLittlet97 Před rokem

      LOL when men are picking a women they basically never say “oh I want a single mum” that’s just so not true. Whereas, single dads are seen as attractive if they still have resources. Women lose time. Most women are in there 30s/40s when divorcing!! Everyone knows men find that group of women in comparison to a 20 something less attractive. Women defiantly lose more then divorce.

  • @BornInsane0
    @BornInsane0 Před rokem +28

    They should just do a study stream or something where they compare statistics, its not even that hard to setup.

    • @adamthemyth
      @adamthemyth Před rokem +9

      They need to do a whole series where they go through all the Redpill talking points and corroborate them with replicated studies.

    • @deistormmods
      @deistormmods Před rokem +1

      @@adamthemyth They link the studies.

    • @ne0nmancer
      @ne0nmancer Před rokem +1

      They already did like this or last week

    • @BornInsane0
      @BornInsane0 Před rokem

      @@ne0nmancer It wasn't with Myron tho, it was with other dudes

  • @princepsbellum3413
    @princepsbellum3413 Před rokem +9

    Myron really got his ass handed to him on this one. His only defense was a sneaky tactic (equating sex options with relationship options, which he himself always separates in other debates) and not even that worked.

  • @raidenmochi3315
    @raidenmochi3315 Před rokem +6

    Child support is for the child. Not for the mother to live a lavish life because of the money given.

  • @Douglas-nt7jd
    @Douglas-nt7jd Před rokem +15

    Fresh and Fit don't seem to realize the average person's situation

  • @jessewills7441
    @jessewills7441 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I think Destiny is the clear winner in this debate.
    Fresh and Fit have a habit of using the extreme 0.1% of the time outcome as the "majority."

    • @silentwitness536
      @silentwitness536 Před měsícem

      Destiny contradicted himself. @ 0:22 vs 7:00. He's a dumb guy's idea of an intellectual.

  • @ampatrao
    @ampatrao Před rokem +11

    Myron takes the loss here. I'm 49, married 19 years. In every divorced couple that I know, just in terms of new relationships, not even touching financial stuff, every guy I know eventually found a far better and more fulfilling partner after divorce. Across the board happier and more content men. All but one friend who does extremely well financially and is constantly dating new women. He isn't exactly unhappy with his situation lol

    • @francisikwueme1688
      @francisikwueme1688 Před rokem +2

      Exactly isn’t that why Kevin samuels considered himself high value ? Even though he was in his 50s , two time divorced with a kid and found his career peak much later in life . Now a woman the same age and circumstance FandF would pronounce post wall and no value . So how can they say women fair better. How. An fresh say the women win because they end up primary or custodial parent in most cases . Does he account the cost for groceries, medical costs , extracurricular activities , day care etc ? Why do some men complain about minimal child support when it is their duty and something they would do if marriage continued . They would be paying the same and more. I Have seen so many men not even fully use their time sharing because they like and want their space. Women are more nurturing and men go out to brace the terrains of the world to bring home the bacon . So most men keep ascending in their careers and increasing their sexual market value. How can they say men don’t care about a woman’s career or what she makes , yet if she stayed home to care for kids and home and have a 15-20 year employment gap they are shocked when the burden of child care may fall on the man smh

    • @ladistar
      @ladistar Před 3 měsíci

      Dude if you’re middle aged and still dating like you’re 20-something you’re an overgrown man child, regardless of how much money you make. It’s honestly really pathetic and cringe.

    • @silentwitness536
      @silentwitness536 Před měsícem

      so youre saying, men get destroyed by their first wife, thus proving Myron's point that women control marriage once a man is in one. o.0

  • @thanatosonpluto5098
    @thanatosonpluto5098 Před rokem +4

    What's funny is they don't even pay attention to the large majority of men who don't even pay their child support, that is how my dad did it.

  • @coriettapadilla9977
    @coriettapadilla9977 Před rokem +27

    Wow! When my parents divorced my mom literally had to pay my dad's debt and he never paid child support. We struggled and my dad just did his own thing. I don't know a lot of women in my world that scored a bunch from a divorce.

  • @MelissaSVice
    @MelissaSVice Před rokem +8

    Fresh: "Single moms get wifed up all the time."
    Also Fresh: "If you're a single mom the chances of you getting a guy is practically zero."
    🤨🤨🤨🤨

  • @Amuse-bouche
    @Amuse-bouche Před rokem +2

    That last line killed me 😂

  • @sergioleal613
    @sergioleal613 Před rokem +11

    “It’s not debatable”
    *gets totally destroyed debating it*

  • @Jaymaul009
    @Jaymaul009 Před rokem +8

    Destiny needs to start asking these men how much they’d need to be paid to be the primary caretaker of their child. Dad has to pay mom for his share of the work involved in raising the child when he is not there.

  • @KZSoze
    @KZSoze Před rokem +7

    Yes, men often get screwed in divorces. But yes, Destiny brings up the other aspects which these guys apparently failed to consider in their echo chamber. Especially seeing as they tell men to avoid single mothers altogether.

  • @abshaheen5713
    @abshaheen5713 Před rokem +15

    How is Myron saying this about single mom. Wtf his whole thing is about how womens value is being young and hot

    • @ARTDEVGRU247
      @ARTDEVGRU247 Před rokem

      Facts. He's stupid

    • @kylerBD
      @kylerBD Před rokem

      Saying what?

    • @abshaheen5713
      @abshaheen5713 Před rokem

      @@kylerBD that they fair better after divorce.

    • @kylerBD
      @kylerBD Před rokem +1

      @@abshaheen5713 Oh my bad im completely cooked. I don't think he is taking in account the dating market. He is only looking at the on paper outcomes for divorce, alimony, child support, child custody etc. Which are generally won by women in divorce. But how much of that matters when single moms are 9/10 skipped over by single men and chances are that they wont find another partner, and if they do find one they wont be a high quality partner/ her settling just to find a partner.

    • @deistormmods
      @deistormmods Před rokem

      @@kylerBD He is taking into account the dating market. Single women can often find a man more quickly. Just compare the amount of men willing to be step dads vs the amount of women being step moms if the dad has custody. And if the kids are preventing her from finding a husband, she should exchange custody, but that doesn't happen because she does end up finding a new husband.

  • @TheBlindArcher.
    @TheBlindArcher. Před rokem +6

    They’re arguing two different things. Women fair better FROM the divorce. Men fair better AFTER the divorce. F&F PREACH not not wife up single moms. Single moms struggle post divorce even though they may have gotten the house, child support, and alimony but relationship wise they’re used goods. A single dad is back to being a bachelor, doesn’t have custody of the kid and can refocus on his career

  • @missinterpretation4984
    @missinterpretation4984 Před rokem +29

    They say getting the kids is fairing better only because women primarily get the kids. If me. Had to do full time childcare and got on average $400/month, they’d be raging about how unfair that is.

    • @malimal4972
      @malimal4972 Před rokem +2

      did you divorce your husband to get $400 in child support ?

    • @bloodyjar3273
      @bloodyjar3273 Před rokem +3

      ​@Silver The average family both people are working.. What are you talking about?

    • @srslee5966
      @srslee5966 Před rokem +1

      ​@Silver In the average family both couples work while the woman still does the child rearing

    • @bloodyjar3273
      @bloodyjar3273 Před rokem +1

      @Srs Lee Yeah that's pretty obvious I don't know what this guy is talking about.

    • @berrymckockiner5883
      @berrymckockiner5883 Před rokem

      and if you're earning 900 a week just to pay 400 of that 900, to the kids you never get to see, then you would be crying about how unfair that is.

  • @mauroblack6284
    @mauroblack6284 Před rokem +8

    I always hope women don’t get to discouraged when they see a lot of the garbage online, I can completely see them thinking men are bottom of the barrel, or if you were looking for a reason to confirm that, a lot of this stuff along with those channels chats/commenters will absolutely seal the deal for you

  • @GTS-dh9wj
    @GTS-dh9wj Před 7 měsíci +2

    Myron Gaines owns 18 properties
    2 Restaurants
    2 Grocery Stores
    2 Delis
    2 gas stations
    2 Laundromats
    2 Cleaning businesses
    2 auto repair shops
    2 homes owned by Richu & Gurkirat

  • @strangemanjams3853
    @strangemanjams3853 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Maybe there are less unhappier women after divorce because THEY WERE UNHAPPY IN THE MARRIAGE? And men were happy during marriage. If only men would take in consideration the happiness of their partners through the marriage, divorces would be less frequent

  • @IGiveTheBestTakes
    @IGiveTheBestTakes Před rokem +7

    My mom got absolutely fucked by divorce at one point we were at the brink of literally living on the street while my dad was chillin literally bride order delivery from the philippines my moms still working 2 jobs while hes already started a new family....

    • @deistormmods
      @deistormmods Před rokem

      Same. But our mothers are the exceptions. In most households, both parents are working.

    • @sp6990
      @sp6990 Před rokem

      💯

    • @sandornibba9794
      @sandornibba9794 Před 4 měsíci

      Kind of a doubled edged sword how the government helps women a majority of the time with winning custody over the child/ren

  • @Sashique86
    @Sashique86 Před rokem +4

    I looked it up and here's a copy/paste:
    "Statistics show that while women initiate divorce almost twice the rate that men do, women are also much more likely to greatly struggle financially after divorce. This is particularly true if children are involved. Often, the personal growth found by dissolving a toxic relationship is replaced with the crushing financial and emotional struggle of being a suddenly single parent. However, women tend to be much more adaptable to change during stressful times and often have a much more extensive divorce support group than men."

  • @btowhidi_1713
    @btowhidi_1713 Před 4 měsíci +1

    These guy’s reference for real work relationships is Tinder 😂

  • @datadood
    @datadood Před rokem +1

    "What bro? What!? What, bro, what?!"
    *Stutter ensues*
    FNF everyone

  • @LuckiestManAlive
    @LuckiestManAlive Před rokem +8

    The contradiction is insane. I watch F&F because they're actually pretty entertaining in a Jerry Springer sorta way. But it's crazy to me that they'll say a single mother has way less value to man, and when a woman argues back saying "I see plenty of single mothers find happy relationships", they completely dismiss the anectdote and say "generally speaking, single mothers aren't getting long-term relationships with men." Which I would expect. Because if they agree, then their whole belief system about womens value falls apart.
    But then Destiny uses the exact same argument in a different subject, and now they're saying single mothers are out here finding long-term partners with no issue?

    • @mitchrapp5214
      @mitchrapp5214 Před rokem

      With High Value Men is their point. The guys women want. There are millions of simps they can settle for.

    • @LuckiestManAlive
      @LuckiestManAlive Před rokem

      ​@@mitchrapp5214 It's amazing to me that you can throw out the word "simp" while simping for them in the same statement.
      Here I am referring to a show that I watched, and without you even knowing which show it was, you immediately jumped to their defense as if you knew the entire context of the conversation.
      To be clear. No, that wasn't their point. I'm referring to a particular show that I watched where the woman clarified that she understands that high value men wouldn't want a single mother, and then followed up that statement saying she knows a lot of single mothers who end up in long-term relationships with the average man. F&F doubled down and said what they said applies to all men.

    • @LuckiestManAlive
      @LuckiestManAlive Před rokem

      @@DisinfoWatch Obviously. Nobody's disagreeing with that. Whether people are simps or not is besides the point.
      The point Destiny was making was that single mothers aren't doing as well as F&F think they are after divorce.
      People can't say that men with high incomes are rare, then turn around and say these single mothers are getting with men with high incomes and end up doing better than the men they divorce. It's ridiculous.

  • @kevonslims7269
    @kevonslims7269 Před rokem +4

    They’ve been pushing out these generalizations for so long that when Someone give them some actual facts and numbers their arguments and talking points looks ridiculous.

  • @valhalla6991
    @valhalla6991 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I love how Myron chokes on his own words and reapeats the same thing over and over again like braindead 😂 He has literally no argument and lacks the humility to admit it

  • @suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261

    8:28 Destiny mercilessly destroys the entire audience of F&F with one single comment… 😂

    • @natediaz1863
      @natediaz1863 Před rokem

      Funny thing is his own audience is probably way worse. Destiny himself calls his audience incels all the time.

    • @t99709
      @t99709 Před 6 měsíci

      @@natediaz1863at least he’s self aware unlike these goofballs 😂

  • @jinlin8641
    @jinlin8641 Před rokem +36

    Out of all the women that got seperated from their husband most of them were because their husband was a deadbeat father, an extra child or an abusive partner and when they did the math, raising the children as a single mom was a far better deal, you also have the scenario where both parties agreed to move on their seperate ways.
    Of course you have those who cheated and left the guy for better but it appears this is usually a minority. Most people are not jerk but the minority is usually the loudest hence the feeling they're everywhere. The rest of us just go on silently about our lives.

    • @francisikwueme1688
      @francisikwueme1688 Před rokem +8

      Also women may initiate the divorce more because they tend to be more organized thus why they fill most admin or executive/personal assistant roles. Most women will be the custodial parent thus have to start planning their future and creating stability for their kids. Most men want to have their cake and eat it to, they may like presenting the image of being married to society or for events even if marriage is dead . They also will enjoy access to their kids everyday so they can come and go even if the women is unhappy and they have cheated and birthed other kids. I am Nigerian trust me I see this play out all the time . Women are more nurturing by nature and most men would not even want full custody outside of abuse or neglect so they can pursue careers and enjoy the bachelor lifestyle

    • @Olyrous
      @Olyrous Před rokem

      Why do women give children to bad men? That is the question. They seem to fall victim to good looks, deceptive or bad boy/macho men they find exciting, when in fact these men have very little to offer as parents. Women should be held accountable for their bad choices in mates.

    • @ihanakaunotar2741
      @ihanakaunotar2741 Před rokem +2

      Yep, I have actually heard that from some women and it’s sad, they’re so exhausted physically and emotionally not getting anything positive recognition of what they do that they would rather be single and only worry about the kid and herself. Cleaning after a dirty male who never respects the work you put in keeping the house clean is incredibly exhausting.

    • @emilyblanzy7426
      @emilyblanzy7426 Před 7 měsíci

      I think this is right right on.

  • @user-co8uy5rb2s
    @user-co8uy5rb2s Před 7 měsíci +5

    Destiny's open marriage backfired! 😅😅😅

  • @mannyencarnacion5120
    @mannyencarnacion5120 Před 9 měsíci

    I like how they think going "WHAT!??" is an arguement 😂😂

  • @NairuOnLife
    @NairuOnLife Před rokem +2

    The 85% of men having to pay child support number was used SO much in this to defend their positions. They felt so much comfort using that as a debate piece when clearly women are put in the position of being the caretaker in the family most of the time, leading to a hampering of their financial position in life. It's insane that one can say women want to be the nurturing partner that takes after the kid while the man goes out and hunts and gathers, while also saying that men fair worse than her financially after divorce because he has to pay out each month to the person who took a hit on their career potential to support the needs of the household.
    So much entitlement.

  • @tsa_Yama
    @tsa_Yama Před rokem +3

    F & F 🤯 when they don't understand basic divorce dynamics.

  • @thefogiscoming00
    @thefogiscoming00 Před rokem +4

    As somebody who has divorced parents, my mother has custody of me and my brothers, she has a great job with a degree and I help her pay for things with the money I make from my part time job, and we are still struggling.

  • @Sfumatura
    @Sfumatura Před rokem +2

    $1k every 2 weeks "is a lot of money for a lot of guys watching the show right now." And somehow they think women are getting into relationships with them while planning for the financial windfall they'll get in a divorce? What planet are these guys on?

  • @SolidCheshire
    @SolidCheshire Před rokem +6

    Do F&F realize that when they say stupid shit like that there are immediatelly hundreds of people that have the experience to know for a fact that they are wrong even within their own community? My parents were separated for 7 years and my mother had it 100 times worse.

  • @huntershillingford9946
    @huntershillingford9946 Před rokem +3

    It’s crazy. They’re arguing stats and averages with “there’s some guys” statements and pure rhetoric. They talk like they’re sure but they didn’t back up a single thing they said.

  • @ericlygaming2167
    @ericlygaming2167 Před rokem +7

    My brain is getting smoother and smoother every time I hear F&F try to talk their way out of solid points.
    I don’t know if they have kids or not but I feel like they don’t since they think any amount of money a month is enough to support a child whether it be $400 or $2000.
    A child’s needs scale up based on the caretakers circumstances. Food, clothes, childcare, school, extra on utilities, insurance, emergencies. Not to mention time. I could go on and on.
    Divorce affects both parties terribly but in many cases, the mother retains custody of the kid(s) putting extra burden on her so it would be kinda dumb to think women come out better than men (assuming they’re the ones to assume custody).
    They cite stats and numbers but when Destiny brings up different stats and numbers, it’s all “I feel like…”

  • @drdaddydarkie164
    @drdaddydarkie164 Před rokem +12

    F&F really either know nothing about the subject they speak on, or are so hopelessly married to their spot on the internet they cannot think reasonably.

  • @JuliaMarieH
    @JuliaMarieH Před rokem +1

    They so often conveniently switch between talking about average cases and extreme cases to support their arguments. It’s wild once you notice it

  • @badgerrunner7774
    @badgerrunner7774 Před rokem

    That last comment that D made was so hilarious.

  • @jamiealfenso737
    @jamiealfenso737 Před rokem +3

    Most abusers do not need to leave their relationships. Most of the time the victim is the one to leave.

  • @CandyBM9
    @CandyBM9 Před 11 měsíci +3

    They never fact check their opinions before spewing out nonsense. This is why Destiny is needed

  • @sam_3249
    @sam_3249 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I just looked it up. A child in the US costs about $1,334 a month. So how is the average man having to pay about $450 a month the loser here?

  • @karlasantos3147
    @karlasantos3147 Před 8 měsíci +2

    As a women, I respect all those single moms out there. I know a few who are really struggling. And I also respect all those men who were raised by single mothers. They are some of the most respectful and generous men Ive met. Truly appreciate what their mothers have done for them.

  • @chancemenard1753
    @chancemenard1753 Před rokem +5

    I always think it’s interesting how he never pushes back on Destiny talking over him.

  • @supernova7848
    @supernova7848 Před rokem +32

    Destiny doing the Lord’s work , annihilating RedPillers one house of cards at a time 😂😂

    • @zackbrown5201
      @zackbrown5201 Před rokem +4

      No he is not

    • @roguis3451
      @roguis3451 Před rokem +9

      @@zackbrown5201 how? He just destroyed them in this video using data and they only responded with feelings

    • @zackbrown5201
      @zackbrown5201 Před rokem

      @@roguis3451 data can be manipulated to fit an agenda. Google is a search Engine and not a truth Engine . Data also revealed about covid deaths and we know it played out lol

    • @savagegamer2292
      @savagegamer2292 Před rokem +3

      ​@@roguis3451lol you funny.

    • @dannygillmusic
      @dannygillmusic Před rokem +2

      Dudes got blue hair lol

  • @martysmenitations
    @martysmenitations Před rokem

    "it's not even debatable" as they continue to debate it.

  • @sptzk7133
    @sptzk7133 Před rokem

    Last 15 secs is the best part 😂

  • @comecombat5060
    @comecombat5060 Před rokem +3

    Destiny: 'so we're gonna use suicide as a metric?' I mean we are talking about who's affected worse by divorce. I've never really heard Destiny make a good argument, not once. And the comments section just goes to show that if people like you in relation to other people, if they're your "fans", you don't need to have good arguments, you just need to talk and they'll agree.