Who will start for the Springboks in Bloemfontein and what to expect?

[@gerhardvtonder]

Missing Wilco Louw (29) we all agreed Wilco was the top 3 new signing in the URC. As a Stormer fan this is very short sighted.

[@justinnell1957]

Evan Roos for 8, Kwagga either 6 or off the bench

[@jj56x7.5mm]

Kwaga chased back to Japan take kolisi with him Faf back to Japan only play here for the nice payment

[@faniekitching8326]

Hanekom need a chance!!!! Sooner rather than later. We currently need to be honest, we need to clean up, captain needs to go, locks needs to be revisited. Jason Jenkins needs a chance. No 9, Faf is a huge concern. Fullback, give Quan Horn a chance. Just my 2 cents....

[@AC-hu3xk]

I can not agree more. 100 % ❤. Spot on... Williams is good to start and very fast . Locks I agree we need more grunt ...and specialist 8 . Not kwagga. Not natural 8 . Off the bench fantastic impact player. Lost 2 line outs with R.G ? I'm not sure why, but I'm concerned.

[@davidmagner6456]

Hanekom injured. Capt was superb last week. Jenkins will definitely get a shout when he returns. Why do you not trust the Coach? He has won 2 world cups in a row. But now you think you know better than him? I don't think you know enough to pick a Koshuis team.

[@faniekitching8326]

@@davidmagner6456 I trust the coach, time to look ahead. Wow, so you now the big expert, selector for the nursery team. Look at the average age then consider your issues again.

[@davidmagner6456]

@@faniekitching8326 no I am not the expert. I have 30 years of coaching, selection and administration to a high level, but I acknowledge my frailties compared with top coaches. But get your facts straight before you deliver your opinion- as ill informed as it might be.

[@faniekitching8326]

@@davidmagner6456 David, done all coaching levels, and all referee courses, coached more than 30 years. So please keep your opinion to yourself.
No beter no 8 than Hanekom!

[@toscabrutus1781]

Dit was swaar die laaste toets miskien moet ons vorentoe beweeg! Miskien help dit ons om nie arrogant te raak nie! Groete uit Lima Peru!

[@mountainman9145]

What we have learnt from these two tests is that Kwagga is great at jackling, ripping and getting to the break down but as Brenden points out he does not have that go forward capability of Duane or Jasper. So for me he remains as an impact player off the bench. If fit Hannekom appears to be the logical successor to no. 8.
Another obvious successor to the 10 is Mngomezulu but the powers that see him elsewhere.

[@user-qe1tv1bu2f]

Sasha threw the game away and should never have been in the 2nd test as he ,just like libbok has yet to learn bmt.

[@wouterswanepoel5753]

Frontrow: Steenekamp, Grobbelaar, Du Toit (replacements Mchunu, Venter, Trevor).
Locks: Moerat (captain, groomed as the longer term captain) and RG (Dixon as cover on the bench).
Flankers: Phepsi and Van Staden (Ruan Venter on the bench).
No 8: Evan Roos (Elrich on the bench).
No 9: Reinach (Williams on the bench, to also cover wing).
No 10: Libbok (Sacha on the bench, covering 10, 12 and 15)
No 12: Esterhuizen
No 13: Am
Wingers: Mapimpi and Fassi
15: Horn
More than enough "old heads" there for Portugal with plenty of "second stringers" getting a go. 😉

[@Theodupreez]

My team for Portugal in Bloem on Saturday:
15 Feinberg-Mgomezulu
14 Moodie
13 Am (vc)
12 Esterhuizen
11 Mapimpi
10 Manie Libbok
9 Reinach
8 Evan Roos
7 E Louw
6 Van Staden
5 Snyman
4 Moerat (k)
3 T du Toit
2 Grobbelaar
1 Wessels
16 AH Venter
17 Mchunu
18 Nyakane
19 R Venter
20 Dixon
21 Van den Berg
22 Kriel
23 Fassi
If Moodie doesn't play. I'll have Fassi on 14 and Q Horn at 23.
If you go for a 6-2 split, I'll take Kriel out and add Buthelezi.
Let us see.
Obrigado.

[@enriquenelson7184]

I made this point the other day, but I want to drive it home. Rassie loves stats.
Our team is too old. Being 35+ at a world cup use to be seen as a miraculous achievement, an outlier. Why do we have 1000s of youth playing craven week every year when Jesse wants to go to 2 more world cups. They'll never get a shot.
1. Ox Nche (age: Oct 2024 - 29, Oct 2027 - 32)
2. Bongi Mbonambi (age: Oct 2024 - 33, Oct 2027 - 36)
3. Frans Malherbe (age: Oct 2024 - 33, Oct 2027 - 36)
4. Eben Etzebeth (age: Oct 2024 - 32, Oct 2027 - 35)
5. Franco Mostert (age: Oct 2024 - 33, Oct 2027 - 36)
6. Siya Kolisi (C) (age: Oct 2024 - 33, Oct 2027 - 36)
7. Pieter-Steph du Toit (age: Oct 2024 - 32, Oct 2027 - 35)
8. Kwagga Smith (age: Oct 2024 - 31, Oct 2027 - 34)
9. Faf de Klerk (age: Oct 2024 - 32, Oct 2027 - 35)
10. Handre Pollard (age: Oct 2024 - 30, Oct 2027 - 33)
11. Kurt-Lee Arendse (age: Oct 2024 - 28, Oct 2027 - 31)
12. Damian de Allende (age: Oct 2024 - 32, Oct 2027 - 35)
13. Jesse Kriel (age: Oct 2024 - 30, Oct 2027 - 33)
14. Cheslin Kolbe (age: Oct 2024 - 30, Oct 2027 - 33)
15. Willie le Roux (age: Oct 2024 - 25, Oct 2027 - 39)
Replacements:
16. Malcolm Marx (age: Oct 2024 - 30, Oct 2027 - 33)
17. Gerhard Steenekamp (age: Oct 2024 - 27, Oct 2027 - 30)
18. Vincent Koch (age: Oct 2024 - 34, Oct 2027 - 37)
19. Salmaan Moerat (age: Oct 2024 - 26, Oct 2027 - 29)
20. RG Snyman (age: Oct 2024 - 29, Oct 2027 - 32)
21. Marco van Staden (age: Oct 2024 - 29, Oct 2027 - 32)
22. Grant Williams (age: Oct 2024 - 28, Oct 2027 - 31)
23. Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (age: Oct 2024 - 22, Oct 2027 - 25)

[@vuyaniman9440]

Eish, they will be golden oldies.

[@wouterswanepoel5753]

Agreed. I believe we'll see the "youngsters" mostly still just getting random (learning) opportunities during the Rugby Championship and the Autumn Internationals, but as from next year we'll see many of them playing more often. The old guard (those above 34 come 2027) will slowly be replaced in the starting line-ups and will agree to become mostly just mentors to the next crop. Of the older crop I think only Mostert and Pieter-Stef (because of their engines) have a chance of making it to the next RWC, and I expect Salmaan Moerat to be the settled Bok captain by 2027.

[@enriquenelson7184]

@@wouterswanepoel5753 I hope you're right. I love the legends but I think the boks need some freshness. I think they might be a bit scared in the sense that they picked a squad to play Wales and lost by a point and that made Rassie go into his shell a bit too much.

[@wouterswanepoel5753]

@@enriquenelson7184 We should actually have won that match against Wales, we just did not click properly on a few occasions (because of the 18 newcomers). But, be that as it may, Portugal is not Wales. I don't think we should be scared to play quite a few newbies.

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

We NEED a big powerful No. 8. They should give that big loose forward in the U20 a go.
Sasha FM was great but also some terrible mistakes.

[@user-hr5gn2st4k]

Brenden Nel. I totally at with you. I feel the way forward is that Spring boks have a lot of talent but the combination link is a bit of a challenge. And I feel it's time to push a New Squad. Get rid of the old guys. The rugby now is more faster and new rules. I learnt that in Australia and New Zealand . The older players need out. This how Australia rugby went down.

[@user-hr5gn2st4k]

Rather get the younger guys in . As I mentioned Australian rugby went down due to that. In New Zealand they are a Small population. But strong in grassroots Rugby. Boks can learn from a bigger pool. Missing link is combination of right players. Together. As last game seemed too individualism to get recognized for the Jersey.

[@martindekock4719]

Kwagga is no 6 and on impact, only not a starter

[@AC-hu3xk]

Deffntly agree

[@nevillechapman116]

Would be criminal not to play Sacha after the weekends performance

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

He had his bright moments but also some awful moments. Still a way to go.

[@FareedLoyiso]

Siya busy being a celebrity kwagaa is no 8

[@bjornhoffmann6008]

When will Hanekom be available after his injury?

[@robinpengelley2123]

What’s the point of putting in all the fringe players if they play well they won’t be selected starting to feel like it’s favourites and players on form overlooked. Roos played well against wales didn’t even make the bench and we needed him I felt. Just my opinion and just saying when we destroyed the all blacks marnie and Andre played together.

[@kb8796]

Cobus Reinach and Mannie Libbok for the new game that Toni wants to play Sacha on the bench Pollard is not for that Running game plan.

[@real_bakerman]

I'd love to see this! If we got rid of Pollard, Kriel and DDA, we are able to play fast, running rugby with lots of flair.

[@Bobbydyland]

SA is in the unique position that we have the depth to field 2 "full strength" teams. We need to get thise 2 team system up and running so that we can rest key players week-on-week and not suffer a dip in performance. And I'm not talking about an A and a B side, I'm talking about 2 A sides.

[@user-kk4lw4mr6i]

Tbh I think we'll see Manie and either Siya, Sacha, Hendrikse at 10 coming off the bench. That way at the end of year tour we can give any of those 3 some more game time. Aus is young team thats when we'll see Pollard again warming up for Nz. This is my prediction, so probably Hendrikse or Siya seeing as they are out and out 10s and Hendrikse looking like the likely candidate as he is younger than Siya and had more seasons in urc to prove himself.

[@nevillechapman116]

Hopefully no more Jordan this year , don’t see why they want to invest in him with so many options for 10

[@kobusdutoitbosman6240]

…Taking both Siya and PSDT away from the centre in going wide, doing tramline duty, exposes both Faf and Kwagga
Thus, there’s increased pressure
If Kwagga goes back to flank it’ll be fine
Kwagga is one of our fastest ‘loosies’ if not THE?
A pity Malcolm cannot play eight man
We need a Marx quality at agsteman
What went wrong in our line-outs?
Got more questions than answers at this stage
After Sat’s Test, all of a sudden the Bokke appear to be somewhat vulnerable
NEVER believed that before, the ‘invincability factor’ kind of thing
It messes with one’s mind ~ STACKS
• WILLIE WAS SORELY MISSED‼️
Bring in Reinach and Sach and Williams
it’ll be good
and, yes, do NOT forget about Manie
It’ll be a mistake
Think Eben needs a rest now
Who else i do not know
Open to anything which brings solutions rather than heartache…😳⁉️
Speak your mind
Thanks
👊🔥
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[@byr0nuser]

How about a left field option leading into the next world cup or two: Move Malcolm Marx to No 8? We're missing Duane at the back of the scrum, that's for sure.

[@mountainman9145]

That's an interesting move , I believe Marx began his rugby journey as a loose forward.

[@duanejonker3858]

Yes Malcolm played flank a couple of games for lions. Might be incorrect. I like when Malcolm plays because he is a poacher.

[@byr0nuser]

I'd go so far as to say, when he's fit and in good form, he's our best forward. Let's see what the Doc decides though. Kwagga is a great impact player, but I don't see him as a long term starter at No 8.

[@user-qe1tv1bu2f]

Funny, we miss one player and it's the world ending, Ireland had Five or six and still beat us 😂😂😂

[@user-qe1tv1bu2f]

And we won't win the next rwc

[@Tokengesture]

Brendan what happened to Wilco Louw ? Did he pick up an injury?

[@kobusdutoitbosman6240]

Can support that one ‼️👊🔥
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[@ivanvanrooyen7605]

In all honnest to disapointed in the boks at Durban to care its like blowing out hot air they cant take back that disapointment they were suppose to dominate ireland now what we should be happy for a 3 tear nation nah will invent my emotions somewhere else this weekend

[@theultimatesharpshooter6734]

Who cares about this game? We all know Rassie has his favourites and will lose the RC on the backs of them.
Hope he proves us wrong.

[@LB_die_Kaapie]

Bro what happened to you? Haha

[@theultimatesharpshooter6734]

@@LB_die_Kaapie Still alive xD

[@user-jh8uh3ki3i]

faf past he sell by date

[@ethancroft5512]

Bongi doesn't even deserve to be in the team. On Saturday, he made 1 run for 0 meters in 46 minutes of rugby. There are too many passengers in the Bok team who are riding on reputation alone. Bongi, Faf and Kolisi should all be replaced by more competent players.

[@JPF468]

Play the full team and put 150 points on the board. This will show world rugby how much of a farce this game is.

[@christianloots495]

As long as Faf is in the squad no one cares anymore. Rassie keeps on picking his friends, the guy needs to wake up.

[@JPF468]

U20’s can beat Portugal

[@user-qe1tv1bu2f]

Quite frankly, who gives a toss.
We could put the Boland 15 in there for all I care. The boks are nothing more than 2nd place losers to a 2nd team depleted Ireland.

[@kb8796]

Why do you pain this is just there 3 game Rassie is building towards 2027 WC in and building process. You will lose some and win some

[@duanejonker3858]

@@kb8796agree. We are building the foundation. New coaches/New system. I care about the loss but it is gonna be reflected in the long run.

[@Alias-gy3tz]

@@kb8796 The Ireland game was a must win in my opinion. I'm very disappointed in the Boks for losing that game.

[@barbarawright7983]

A loss gives the boks a wake up call ..