Ireland Edges Out the Boks in a Thriller | The Verdict Ep.02
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- In Episode 2 of "The Verdict," our Springbok legends Jean de Villiers, Schalk Burger, and Hanyani Shimange dissect the nail-biting match where Ireland narrowly defeated the Boks 25-24.
Join us as we delve into the key moments, crucial plays, and pivotal decisions that defined this thrilling encounter. From standout performances to controversial calls, we've got it all covered.
Don't miss the in-depth analysis and expert insights from our rugby greats. Watch now and share your thoughts in the comments!
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"The Verdict" is a brand-new rugby analysis show featuring in-depth insights and expert commentary from Springbok legends Jean de Villiers, Schalk Burger, and Hanyani Shimange.
Set to premiere on Monday, July 8th, this nine-episode series, sponsored by WeBuyCars and supported by Freddy Hirsch, focuses on the upcoming Castle Lager Incoming Series and the Castle Lager Rugby Championship.
The show promises to deliver detailed analysis of matches, player performances, and tactical breakdowns, providing rugby fans across South
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Another Irish listener here. Breath of fresh air this podcast! There are toxic online supporters trolling on both sides... but between the URC and the recent match-ups with the Boks... the growing relationship between Irish and Saffer teams has been the most important and enjoyable aspect of Irish rugby these last few years. Best o luck in championship... see yous in the new season! ✊
Irish fan and would like to congratulate the world champions and just say winning one game against such vaunted opposition means alot to ireland. It's a measure of the opposition. But over both games there is nothing between the teams (and hasn't been for a few years). Fabulous team the boks (that full back mngomezulu will be special), look forward tonthe next clash! Great rugby (which we got in all the matches this weekend) is what matters! Games that are in the balance at the end. Spoilt we are.
Thanks a lot my man Ireland 🇮🇪 is a scary team we wish you good tournament ahead and looking forward for good partnership with URC and world rugby international
110% Portorportor8247. WE ARE BETTER SIMPLE. THE BOKS AND THERE FANS ARE FULL OF THEMSELVES
🍀🇮🇪 IRELAND 🇮🇪☘️ IS THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE WORLD 🌍 AND NUMBER 1
@@portorportor8247Dom Kop😂.
@@portorportor8247Ire will ONLY win 6 nations and beat the Boks. You'll NEVER win WC because you don't have what it takes to win when it matters most, fact.
@@portorportor8247Talk nonsense, punching above your weight? Ire is equivalent to NZ in the number of rugby players and NZ hold 3 RWC titles! Your excuse is because more Irish do hurling? Even Australia have won RWCs and rugby isn't near their No1 sport and even in NZ, more people play hockey and soccer, same as SA by far the majority play soccer. Infact it's Scotland that punch above their weight given how few rugby players they have. If Ire were really the best then they would've beaten NZ in the RWC23
When I was a small chap we lost 2- 0 in a Test series versus Namibia. If you told me we would be winning Tours v Oz, NZ and a draw v Springboks … I would have said “ Sober Up”!
Irish rugby's Vietnam
I remember that Namibian Tour from the 1990s. We have come a long way.
The competition between Ireland and South Africa is only starting. Rugby is going to get bigger and bigger in Ireland in the next decade, at club and international level.
i mean, bigger than it is now? gees talk about a tall order... i know Irish games will always be hugely important (hurling, gaelic football and the like) but code is the main international game in ireland isn't it?
@@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905 Rugby is still mainly a middle class game in Ireland, played mainly by kids from affluent areas and affluent schools. It still hasn't really worked its way to working class/ rural communities around the country like GAA/Soccer. When it does, and if Ireland win a World Cup, rugby will take over.
@@LOGOS422 i see, are you irish?
@@ermannosorricchiodivalfort4905 Yup.
@@LOGOS422 if one goes by the number of rugby players, Ireland has a lot compared to the total population, many more than bigger countries such as Italy or France comparatively
Irish fan here - enjoyed your review great players all yourselves - Ireland had to rely on a moment of genius to level the series - two great teams very little between them but your RWC record tells a different story but I believe our time on that stage will come
I love how they would not watch the drop goal, despite talking about it for ages as it's just too painful 😂, great former Boks and fun episode
Great honest analysis of the game, from an Irish fan, always fantastic games and so enjoyable, all players putting their bodies on the line. Happy to beat the world champs in close game, til next time.
If Ireland didn’t win that match there would be a lot of talk about South Africa’s second last kick at goal given it wasn’t a penalty. The ball was tapped back by a South African to an Irish player and the ref gives South Africa a penalty
I have looked at that incident myself and the more I look at it the more I think there was a penalty given for accidental off side. The South African player knocked it back I think and I think Mc carthy caught it in an off side position. There was no Irish knock on which everyone thought the penalty was given for. I don’t think we can have any complaints to that particular kick penalty. At the time I was roaring at the ref.
@@anthonylennon8331 If it was an Irish knock-on, and McCarthy caught it, that's a penalty for offside. It was, as the replay shows, an SA knock-back meaning mcCarthy was on-side and perfectly entitled to play the ball. Wrong call by ref and TAs. TMO apparently tried to contact the ref but "communications failed"...
@anthonylennon8331 ja its only offside if the Irish knock the ball on, if Sacha knocks it back then McCarthy isn't in an offside position. So refs got that one wrong, like so many other calls
@kristian762 you're offside of the ball and player. U need to be ahead of the ball.
@@daithimacsuibhne7522 Clearly it wasnt. But then you probably think the cheat Kolbe was tripped.
Great conversation guys and good luck in the Rugby championship. As an Irish fan, I was happy with 1-1, would have liked a 3rd test, but it wasn't to be. It was Ireland's last game in a very long 55 week season. It was nice to end it with a win. I'm glad we won the 2nd one rather than the first. I do think of what might have been if JGP and Hugo Keenan were in the squad, might we have got 2 wins, but who knows now?. It was a very enjoyable spectacle between two titans of rugby. Boks and Ireland both deserved their respective wins. Congratulations to the teams and all the fantastic fans. I just have to go to South Africa for a holiday now. Great people who like a beer!🍺🇮🇪🇿🇦🇮🇪🇿🇦🇮🇪🇿🇦
Very fair analysis. Great games. Good luck in the championship from Ireland.
Much appreciated!
You would have to say Ireland had the better of this series they drew away and scored a try or more in both games.
Great chat. Love listening to these three lads. Thanks to SA for a hell of a test match.
Both of these matches were phenomenal, the first one of the greatest attacking games I have seen. and the second some unbelievable defence and brutal competition.
Still shocked that we were able to stop the boks getting a try in that match.
SO GOOD!!! WE NEED A DECIDER!
No the irish were tired in the second half even though they were still attacking with precision but it was a fair result the 3rd test would have ruined it
Superb analysis. Respect from Ireland.
The SA pundits are so much more humble and gracious then the AB pundits, no excuse making or sourness. This new rivalry between these teams is what world rugby needs. SA is a great rugby nation with great people. Its a massive honor for us to get a draw down there.
Go and watch S.A mag rugby analyst show
watch how they reacted to irelands W.C QF exit
That will change your mind
They were the ones mocking and laughing at ireland when they got knocked out of the QF
Singing rassie in your head lol
Even though it wasn't S A who knocked ireland out
The S.A Dj in the 2nd test was playing zombie a few times not because he loves the song
and made strange sound noises when Frawley missed his kick
Saffas sing and play zombie now everytime they win
So thankyou ireland for giving them a victory song
NZ don't do that,
just too let you know,
when the ABs win
kiwi music is played,
out of joy and happiness for victory
S.A play zombie out of petty and spitefulness absolute sore winners
Remember every S A fans and pundits all wanted a white wash series, they expected it
They gave you guys no chance to win
Before Game 2 every pub in S A had zombie ready, locked and loaded, the windpipes were well tuned, ready to go expecting 2-0 series
It didn't happen, and now they gutted because they have to park their pettiness in the garage and be humble lol
@@kelsyn21, it's funny how the Saffers still singing that song 6 months on only suggests the Irish are living in their heads rent free, which is quite ironic when you think about the lyrics.
Both countries have good and bad shows.
Fully agree with that comment, they are a lot more gracious than the NZ pundits. I have said it before about NZ . Anyone in NZ who has a Sir in front of their name should debate their nationality.
As an Irish fan watching the game more importantly we nearly threw that game away. Our discipline was crazy. Our error count was unacceptable, we fell off tackles, our ruck defence was slow, Frawley pulled us out of the fire in the death. We got lucky.
Ireland would have won the first test had it not been for terrible officiating
debatable, but the boks would have won the game in Dublin in 2022 if it wasn't for terrible officiating so I guess it's swings and roundabouts huh?
Half way through the podcast. Good stuff. Looking forward to the boys playing kolbes DIVE in slow motion and discussing it in detail at the end.
Also, you fellows need to watch the game in a little more detail. You say there were no obvious ref mistakes. The linesmen disagree. The boks were gifted three points in the second half when an Irish player didn’t even touch the ball.
A small miracle that we won - forget about luck - we had no Bundee Aki, no Jamison Gibson park, no Hansen, No Hugo Keenan, no Dan Sheehan, Craig Casey concussed.
An imperfect second half but hanging on despite the injuries AND a yellow card holding the world champions back from getting any tries…pretty impressive performance.
Boks are still incredible athletes, nothing to dispute there. But as an Irish rugby supporter, I couldn’t be happier!
Henshaw played
That’s a not a miracle . It’s called adapting
@@daveh2344 fixed it 👍
it was GLADATORIAL ... a real test match. No 1 and 2 and, as you rightly say, small small margins,
And ireland mising Hugo Keenan, Gibson-Park, Matt Hansen, Dan Sheehan, Aki, Crowley, Jack Conan
PS glad ye enjoyed the breakfast!! Best wished from Ireland
The lads doing a match breakdown, in the chopshop 😅
Going back to where they highlighted the tap and go at the end..... The Springboks got a penalty and 3 points for an offside when the Springbok player knocked a catch backwards and was regathered by an Irish player. There was no Irish player even contesting the kick to even suggest it was offside. There's missed calls on both sides that's just the game.
Ireland fan here world rugby f...ed up imagine the excitement of a 3rd test....also as an Irish fan I love the SA teams in the URC it really helps the rivalry between the two teams and thats good for our sport.
JdV is such a respectful guy, thanks for the great podcasts JdV and co.
Agreed he’s Brillant to listen to
all 3 are great pundits fair and balanced
Great analysis from an Irish fan, very fair and balanced..best of luck in the rugby championship 🏆
Love to see Ireland have more tours in South Africa, amazing atmosphere and great country
Awesome show guys. Thank you for all the work you have done.
I’ve looked at that Kolbe slip and it you slow it down you can see there was NO contact with Doris
Great to hear a detailed technical analysis for the other side. Both sides analysis have been extremely fair to each other.
2 skillful heavyweights going at it. I'm really loving this rivalry grow at international and provincial levels.
Like this format of the Verdict, keep it up guys!! 💚
love you guys. Can't wait to vist next year with Connaught. SA involvement in URC has helped bring us all closer together, great analysis!
🇿🇦 I don't think the Boks were in the game. They were completely outplayed! We were kept in the game by penalties but outplayed by the Irish!!
The Boks definitely miss Nienaber and Felix Jones in the coaching team. I am not so sure Tony Brown is doing it for them!
Missed the tap back from SA player to Joe Mc. Ref gave penalty to SA. 3 points to SA. Where was the video ref. Ref in general good but some mistakes on offside for both sides . Good game though . See you in Dublin .
Thanks for that lads. Irish fan. Enjoyed your analysis. 👍🏿
Great two tests. Where is number 3? Crazy planning as ever. In my opinion, best 2 sides in the world and the world is watching and loving these tests. How is that not great for Rugby.
Love this analysis, legends ☘️
Congrats to Ireland, they came to play, and play they did. They deserved the win. Very disappointed in the Boks, this loss hurts. I hope Rassie and the Boks take the RC seriously, if they play like they did against Ireland we can forget about winning the RC. I'm not convinced that the new assistant coaches are the right fit for the Boks.
No one's sayin battle of the coaches!
First test match SA 27-20 Ireland
Second test SA 24-25 Ireland
Net score for series SA 51-45 Ireland.
Aggregate scores only count with home and away games or 2 games in a neutral venue
34:56 you can’t pick an incident of offside and call it as the difference. You’d have to go through every missed or marginal call over the 80 minutes. And tot all those up. There was a point SA were given a penalty 3 points for a knock on that was actually came off an SA hand. So that’s minus 3 for SA. 🤷 If 1 point is good enough to win a World Cup it’s enough to comprehensively beat the boks! Thanks for your analysis. Till next time.
Think that was an offside rather than knock on
Great breakdown lads. Cracking podcast. Kiwi living in London here. Loving the big rugby games and the analysis before and after on great shows like The Verdict.
Appreciate you :)
The Irish were magnificent. SA played some brilliant rugby. Thrilling Test.
Great analysis, but Schalk is right, how could you not show the drop goal? It's now part of folklore.
On the Doris red card, Etzebeth and Snyman go through the ruck tackling McCarthy off the ball, illegally preventing him clearing out, Etzebeth then continuues to hold him forcing Ryan who was about 8 yards away, had the ref blown for that penalty, Ryan would be nowhere near the ruck and no yellow card. Absolutely the period where SA got a hold, forcing penalties from a tired 14 men. The other key moment was SA going in front for the first time, Nash was penalised for a knock on when in fact he missed it and Sacha Feinberg knocked it backwards, once again a refereeing error awarding points at key moments. Without these Ireland would have stayed well in front.
Great show guys...hard one to swollow. Portugal are coming to South Africa at the complete wrong time!!! The team that will be picked will be a running team and with young players given the opportunity to show the coaching team that they need to be in the starting 23 for the next world cup!!! Ps. I know We Buy Cars is one of your sponsors but ask them to keep it professional, noice and people in the back😂
Really good and insightful analysis. Irish fan here and fan of this show too!
Can we all agree that Rugby is the real winner!
The fact that the series was 1:1 means their next encounter is going to be and absolute monster of a game...
Love your analysis boys , enjoy your banter , keep it up boys !!
Love this show, such appreciation for good rugby, whatever the results.
I think South Africa should count their blessings there wasn't a third game in the series. Right now South Africa can breathe a sigh of relief with the draw but imagine the impact on your national psyche had you lost the third game to Ireland too. Remember South Africa are world champions and they had more pressure on them than Ireland did. Sometimes we have to be careful what we wish for.
Its great listening to u guys..thumbs up from me.
Score is 2-1 to Ireland! Group stage World Cup-Ireland and 1-1 in Saffa land
The team lacked the spark, especially in the first half. There was not intensity. Recently Boks don’t do back to back games very well especially when playing the same team.
Mbombela to Ellis park vs the AB’s.
Rugby Aoteroa's Bryn Hall reckons this was more of a Bok loss than an Irish win. No bias there. Admittedly, Ire showed the value of analysis and preparation
Few comments about small things that went wrong for SA, what about the offside penalty that have them the lead, when the Irish player never touched the ball, but the SA player knocked it back to Joe Mc. Ref gave offside penalty. TMO was trying to tell ref and ref never acknowledged he just said i can’t hear you🤷🏻♂️. We shouldn’t have needed the second drop.
Yet did do to get back. Thanks Mr Reff
Handre and Willie go together. When Willie went off, Handre (senior to Sacha) was suppose to give direction to the attack. He just can't. In World Cup playoffs it seems it doesn't matter between World Cups it does matter. Decisions need to be made around the personnel that will drive our attack outside Willie. Who is the creators, who see space the best?
Ha ha, c'mon guys you are clutching at straws with that series of play with thhe Lowe mark and the offside call, if thats how petty you are getting its sad. In reality SA barely created an opportunity all game, benefitted from a couple of 50/ 50 penalty calls and even then failed to lose out the game.
Was a fun game, genuinely thought us Irish threw it away, but snuck away with the win in the end, I'd say 1-1 was fair on balance, but as everyone else says when's the decider??
Great new show. You didnt however mentioned the dodgy penalty awarded to boks by the ref. Where was the Tmo? It was never an Irish knock on in the air but he awarded boks 3 points. Why no SA analysis mention this.
Well they don't have the balls to mention it😂😂😂😂
Ireland Edges the Springboks 🥴🥴🥴
Ox got the reach around
Irish hand *in* the ruck
@@JastorKeane-ln2tzwahhhhhh
Hold up…did yous really not watch one of the best drop kicks in rugby history just because it would hurt your guys’s ego? Lads yous are professionals and yous just ignored watching the kick and Kolbes dive. Ireland embarrassed you this isn’t an analysis it’s sad boys talking about how South Africa made mistakes. Ireland gave noting for you and that penalty at the 10 metre line when the ref said Calvin nash hit it forward and McCarthy was offside, it never even hit an Irish hand so it should have been Ireland by one in the last 80 minute but the rugby gods wanted Frawley to have his moment 💪🏻
STFU and show respect. Watch the video a 2nd, 3rd or 4th time if you need to. They showed praise all throughout this for the Irish. If you watch any of Schalk Burger or JDV's analysis in other videos, they always do that and highlight things that need to be improved on. Schalk out of all pundits is extremely objective and fair with his analysis. Don't come in here spinning 💩 mate. True purist rugby fans know what's up.
2022 vs Argentina we had a sell out as well
Yes, we all know you're the world cup champs and deservedly so.... but you haven't dominated any top sides. Winning every world cup knock out match by only 1 pt is ample proof of that and you won the final against 14 men.
The last 5 games between Ireland and SA ---- 4 wins for Ireland and ONLY 1 win for you boks. You absolutely cannot say you're better than Ireland with that record. Ireland kept you tryless at the weekend on your home patch. I hope you're enjoying your humble pie.
"dominating" top sides almost never happens these days chief (apart from the 35-7 thrashing we gave the ABs last year), take your 1 point win and be gracious about it.
@@craigweideman6194 Ireland dominated France in this years 6 nations, chief!
If SA go on to win the Rugby Championship , this game will be one of the reasons. Ireland ar a very difficult side to beat, and SA have lost 3 of the last 4 games between them.
"Luck of the Irish" has to be the greatest oxymoron in history. Saffas in denial.
Have the Boks gotten lazy as a result of the 6/2 and 7/1 split?
This is such a biased review and coming from rugby player it just feels not right. Ireland over 80 minutes were by far the best team the first 30 minutes of rugby in that game was faultless by Ireland , I don’t think the boks in their wildest dreams can play rugby like that. SA scored 12 points when Ireland were down to 14, they never even looked like scoring a try and although it was a drop kick that won the game just before it Ireland were camped out on the SA line with a try held up. Ireland were better and considering the disadvantages they had to put up with it they won with a better game of rugby…
"I don't think the Boks in their wildest dreams could play rugby like that...".
You obviously didn't watch SA vs France in the WC my friend. 😂
And your comments not biased? as a fellow Irish man, your forgetting this is a fair analysis from their perspective on where they felt they went wrong or should have done better. It was a game of two halfs and in fairness we didn't play our best game either in that second half we gave away far too many penalties, something we usually have better discipline on, what we did have to make up for it was sheer dogged determination, to claim one side was clearly better then the other when there was a single point difference is a little arrogant as it could just as easily went the other way had frawley missed that shot.
Cool your jets Dave! The bias is half the craic and their analysis is quite good anyway.
Yeah, you guys played well. No questions. But few behind the show tactics are part of Irish Rugby but intelligently done ref was cluless 😅. Not been mean . But you guys are good. Now, can you win a Qtr final. 😅
This comment here just proved my point I've made about most irish fans & media, its like they have an insecurity & always trying to prove that they are a "great" rugby nation/team even if we give it to them their recent years success its like they always want to be part of the big boys conversations. We see u guys & we acknowledge ur recent years success but for me its more embarrassing losing to a team like ireland given what we have!
Rassie planned to set up his old squad for defeat but they just wouldn’t lie down. In the first test he ran them ragged with Japanese style attack then in the second he re-selected all 1000 caps to do it again.
Luckily Ireland sneaked a win in the second game otherwise Rassie wouldn’t have been able to turn the churn for another year and we would have fallen behind on project World Cup V
Ua guys doing a great job.in the first half boks didnt do their best potential but second half they fought back hard an leading the match.as true world cup campion .as rassie told the day better team won th match. For boks nothing to worry learn from failures and move on from now . Good luck boys
🇮🇪 🇿🇦
Great 2 test matches. But, it’s Hard to take you lads seriously while you’re selling second hand cars and shoving biscuits down your pie holes. Seems to be that you live in some type of alternative reality where you find it impossible to accept that Ireland may possibly be a better team than SA. Or worse, one than that was more physical than you lads.
Oh give us a 3rd test ...😅
My verdict...I acknowledge is new plans & I understand the thinking behind it, but from the 1st game I've been saying that this game plan missed Manie & Willemse! Given where Pollie is in his career one should've thought trying to get him back into the style of rugby he played in his youth will maybe take longer, then working on Manie's kicking defects🤷 all n all no panic alarms, just the embarracement of losing to ireland which sits on the same level as losing to Japan personally.
You're comment is an embarrassment and you cannot spell, Japan clipped you once, that irish team has done you 4 out of the last five test matches and well while most south Africans will appreciate that, you're obviously the exception to the rule, you're wonderful country doesn't need supporters like you, best of luck in the rugby championship 👍 🇮🇪🇿🇦
14 out of 20 ?
bullshit SA 7/10 if they win it’s 9/10 under what barometer? are u marking no mistake in a test match is a 10 never happens this was as good a mach as anyone has seen or played in the standard of this game was true the roof I laugh at 7 out of 10!! everything from an SA perspective but what do you get from 3 Box’s
Biased as fk! SA have a nassive team with a massive bench. Ireland don’t have that and we have players missing. Ireland are in your backyard and don’t have the crowd or backing compared to South Africa. Ireland done brilliantly in this second test and you can’t hand it to them?? I love SA and so much respect, just wish SA can have the same in defeat 🤡.
Absolutely love the analysis of you 3 lads, always spot on. Great series lads, this rivalry is here to stay and I'm grateful for it!
You’re holding a lot of pride in springboks coming back in the second? A lot of that was you playing against 14 men for 10 minutes and also ref awarding you penalties for Nash not even touching the ball in the air for the offside pen, and then not awarding Beirne and Kelleher with hands on the ball and then giving a pen against Ireland for offside a moment later, sprinboks got some very fortunate reffing in that second half which is the only reason Ireland didn’t win by more, would’ve been an absolute robbery had the officials guided the sprinboks to a victory in the second half
The amount of ref blaming by the paddies in this series is off the charts. I'd always been led to believe it's the saffas that blame refs,seems paddies are working hard to claim that title