🔴 50mm Leica Summicron ALTERNATIVE? Leica Summitar 5cm f2 LTM
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Looking for a cheap Leica Summicron alternative lens? You should check out the older Leica Summitar 50mm f2 lens which was released after the Leica Summar 5cm f2 lens but before the first 50mm Leica Summicron lens. Video includes lens specs, price and Leica Summitar 5cm f2 LTM photos (portraits + test photos).
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I got one from post-1945 in excellent condition with no scratches/haze (!) with original front lens cap (coated, too - this lens was made coated starting with serial # 587601, mine also has the 10 blades). The Leica pocket book explains that coating in 1942 was proprietary to military only. But customers could have it sent in to Leica for coating after the war ended for a long time. Aperture and distance rings vary a lot during the time this lens was made: mine has an interesting 2, 2 (yes, twice!), 3.2, 4.5, 6.3, 9, 12.5 aperture scale. I had CLA done with mine because when I got mine at an auction it was in very dusty condition. Love the 10 blade bokeh shape. Best feature of this lens is its circular bokeh in certain conditions - it is unique and very pleasant. The lens performs well with color, too. Regarding filters, I have used mine with std 39 mm filters which I taped with two little transparent Scotch tapes between filter ring and outside front lens - works well! Prices for this lens increased significantly in the past two years. I heard that this lens can have often the issue of delamination depending on age and condition.
Hi Martin, great to hear that you have a nice copy too! Yes I got mine with my first Leica iii at the end of 2019 for a good price luckily. I since ordered the 39mm filter adapter so I can use normal 39mm caps and yellow filter in the summer. Check you don't have a rare one with the 2, 2 thing!!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Good idea to check - from an online search I found that I have a copy made post 1945 (the first list I checked with serial numbers is wrong!) which also aligns with the age of my IIIc camera (1947) which came with it. I found one other online post in the rangefinder forum a few years back asking about the weird aperture numbers starting with 2, 2. This seems more rare - normally 2, 2.2 or 2, 2.8 is used instead.
Excellent video Matt. I have this lens, form 1952, which is in nearly pristine condition, especially the glass. I agree with everything thing you said. It is a fantastic optic and renders beautiful images. I also shoot B&W film (only) at f2 mostly, and love the bokeh, which to me has a round, swirling character about the background area. And, stopped down (f5.6>) it is plenty sharp for B&W film, even compared to my v5 Summicron 50mm. I would never part with this lens, it is a life-long friend, 100%.
Hi Dan, sorry I thought I replied to this weeks ago but it says not. Great to hear you have a nice copy of this lens and well summarised! Yes nice bokeh and can be sharp too :) A keeper for sure! :)
Great review Matt. Really enjoying your videos and images. The image at 7:49 sold me on this lens and I ordered a 10 blade copy several days ago. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks John! I hope you enjoy your lens.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom you’re welcome Matt. Thanks!!
As always, super advice! It amazes me how old these lenses are, and how well they have held up over the years. Thanks Matt!
Thanks Lucy, yes agreed it's mad to think that they are so old, like some of the Leica iii cameras too!
I love the older M42 and Exacta mount , they can be adapted to the Leica too and save a lot of money , however , Matt is correct ; if you want the frame lines , or the information with the image ( digital ) you must use the Leica L39 to M Mount adapters ...B&H in New York stocks all of them and they are very reputable , other supplier is Cameraquest the Voightlander USA supplier for these adapters.
Those collapsibles are so beautiful. I only have two russian FED ones. An older non coated f18 and a coated f16 version. I really like the rendition of the older one. Hope to get my hands on a Leitz/Leica one in the future.
Thanks Andre! Yes I use the Russian lenses too. I hope you can get yourself a Leica/Leitz when you find a good deal.
Just as sharp in the center as the 9k APO summicron. Crazy beautiful lens. I have a 10 bladed coated version, always amazes.
Thanks, at what f stop would you say it’s as good as the APO? F5.6? I’m just interested, not disagreeing. Yes I love the lens too!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Hard to tell wide open, impossible by 4ish (crazy lens settings)
@@77mikehell thanks, yes I find from f3.2 it’s great (the crazy settings as you say !) :)
Totally agree! Fantastic lens! I have the 10 bladed, lens coated version on my leica iif red dial.
Niice! What a great combination!! :)
I plan on having the same combination especially after this review haha!
@@erichartke4331 haha sorry for the GAS! It is nice though :)
Good vid! I have a Summitar SN/7532 ... according the database that puts it around early 1949. To be honest I shot one role of transparencies (unprocessed) and am now shooting through B&W roll as soon as a finish the B&W roll I will get them processed. I have a German Summicron with which to compare.
I was told that the Summitar is sharp in the center which suites me just fine. It is coated as best as my poor eyes tell me; I see three distinct colors: red, blue and maybe green.
Hello sorry for my late answer and thanks! Yes my Summarit is sharp especially from f3.2 and in the centre. I tend not to look at the corners in my images. I hope you get some nice results.
Had a coated 10 bladed version for a short while and it was a stunning lens. Very swirly bokeh and sharp as well.
The later 6 bladed versions used the irises from the earlier Summar. Leica found a box full of them apparently and decided to use them up before bringing out the Summicron. Not particularly struck on clickless tbh, but at least you can get half, third or even quarter stops. Better than the full stops of the Elmar 5cm f2.8. Given the choice again I'd get another Summitar instead of the Elmar. I still have an orange filter for one.
Thanks Rhys, yes good info on the Summar, I read something similar too. Yes I prefer clicks like you and yes agree I prefer this to the Elmar I have. Someone else just mentioned filters to me too! Are you UK based? I actually ordered the 39mm filter adapter after making the video so I can use normal lens caps and 39mm filters.
Great review, which inspired me took for this lens. Got lucky on ebay and just bought one from 1949, 10 blades and coated, so best of both types. Plus it came with the filter adapter, vented round "clip-on" hood (12585H), and ltm-to-M adapter. All for $400. Can't wait to try it on my M2. Kind of afraid to try it on my Canon ltm cameras, though, as I'm afraid if I collapse it, it might hit the metal shutter or light baffles.
Great find Andrew! You did well there. It should be fine on older cameras just not later ones like the Minolta CL or Bessa as they have smaller internals.just collapse carefully. You can’t break anything if go slow.
I appreciate that Canon made so many great LTM lenses to choose from. I have use the Canon f1.5 Sonnar lens and its really special having a silky smoothness rendering.
Thanks ah very nice! I’ve not got or tried the 1.5 but I hear it’s nice!
Hi again, Matt! Another first rate presentation. I have a coated version of the Summitar in question. Of particular interest: it stops down to f16. I think you stated that yours only stopped down to f12.5, a rather strange figure. The lens was originally mounted on a Barnack iiif. I found the camera, in virtually unused condition, in the basement of a Washington house and since I was the only person who knew what it was I carried it off as a gift. I have not used it much, as my standard lens is the 35mm Summichron on my M3.
I would love to bring the lens over your way if I could borrow a few of your amazing women.
Hi Jeremy, ah yes the later lenses say f16, mine is an early one. Great find in the house! Lucky you. The amazing women are hard to find. I normally have to fly to find them myself! Worth the effort though. If we are ever in the same city maybe I can run a workshop and find some girls for you (that’s what I do for overseas workshops)
I found an inexpensive Summitar to 39mm filter adapter from a great seller on eBay, put an inexpensive 39mm metal hood and a good UV filter on it, and it is now my primary Leica lens by far. Be it on Barnack, M body, or Fujifilm via adapters.
Thanks Daryl! Yes I’ve ordered the adapter too and already have a 39mm hood so that’s my plan too :)
By coincidence I bought the summitar last week. WOW you are right, it's astonishing. Unbelievable for a '40 lens (used on M240)
Congrats!! Yes such a great find aren't they. I've been really happy with mine.
Great video! It is a wonderful lens. I have one from 1947, 10 leaf coated and never seem to put another lens on my 3F. Sharp in the center but soft on the edges. Greens and reds look great on colour film, though other shades seem somewhat muted. Leica 42mm e39 lens cap seems to work fine. Thanks.
Thanks Timothy, great combination and thanks regarding the colours.
Thanks about the cap also! I ordered the 39mm adapter so can use a regular cap/ filter but great to know thanks.
Very nice review of the Summitar! I just would like to add that you don't necessarily need to buy a very early uncoated Summitar in order to avoid that hexagonal aperture. The very late coated Summitars have again a ten blade aperture. My lens has the No. 797722. It combines high contrast and flare resistance with beautiful bokeh 🙂 And the smallest aperture is 16 instead of 12.5
Thanks Alexander, great info!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I just took a handheld selfie with the above mentioned coated Summitar adapted to my Sony A9 via Techart LM-EA9: flic.kr/p/2nSiZZe
My arm was just long enough, the Techart adapter extends the close focus to approx 50cm 🙂
Another advantage of the coated post war version: The normal vented hood of the Summicrons fit on it because they late Summitars have the same groove around the front:
flic.kr/p/2nSgFhX
Got my summitar for a couple of years now really nice lens for adapters I go for the k&f ones not expensive and thy work perfectly for leica m fuji x etc
Great, yes a really nice lens! I mentioned it in the new MrLeica.Com blog post only yesterday!
Got one at a low price and now learn how to use it on my nikon z5 with the Urth M39-Z adapter. It certainly has a great character! Also got the Nookyhesum, but need to practice more with that one. Thank you for the suggestion!
Thanks Jacob, congrats oon the lens!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom the lens is perfect, amazing, but the Nooky Hesum is not ideal - since I am using it on my nikon mirrorless, I just have ordered an nikon z extension tube set for close focus. Will let you know the results!
@@jacobjurg3746 hey Jacob, yes or something like the 7Artisan close focus adapter that I now have for a Leica M to L mount.
Just recently I got really into Barnack cameras and sold my M3 to replace it with a III Black Paint and a IIIg! Your videos have been super useful since there are not a lot of screw mount related videos available! Thank you : D Would love if you ever are able to review the Summar lens, that’s one I’ve been looking into buying and it looks even more beautiful than the Summitar (plus it was Leica’s first f2 Lens)
Thanks Daniel, they are amazing aren't they! :) I didn't get the Summar after getting the Summitar as it is a softer version of. But if I ever get to test one I will share the results no problem. Thanks for the feedback.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yes…I was not expecting to like them since I’ve been always using the M Mount but I fell in love with them and that’s all I use now. I got the elmar 50mm f3.5 in nickel and chrome and it’s such a sharp lens, but I was searching for one with more ‘flavor’ wide open like the Summar or the Hektor 50mm f2.5 : ) The summarit unfortunately is not available in nickel I believe..
BTW I also highly recommend the SBOOI finder, it makes the experience of shooting close up portraits sooo much better.
Great as usual Matt!
Just like to add a couple of points, the highest serial number 10 blade Summitar i have seen is 799873. So any from 601,000 to there (and probably a few earlier) will be coated 10 blades, your best choice.
Also filters, as you know, a great way to go is a Summitar-39 adapter, cheaply available on the Bay from the Middle Kingdom. But really if you are using an uncoated, or even single-coated, lens with a filter it is best to go with multicoated filters. B+W are great but a tad pricey. I have found that Hoya makes great multicoated (HMC) filters and are less costly. I would also use a larger standard size (40.5, 49 or 52) with stepup rings. It is a balancing act between size and lens versatility for what you choose. I have standardized on 52mm with step up rings (eg 39-52) that cover many lenses up to 52mm filter size (34-52, 39-52,49-52,40.5-52,43-52, 46-52, 48-52,49-52 and 52)
I carry in a little folding wallet the following multicoated 52mm filters; UV, Yellow, Orange, Red, Green, circular polarizer and 3-stop (8) neutral density. These seven filters cover just about anything you would want to use with black and white film for exposure and tonal control. Pick the stepup rings that you need for the day’s lens choices and you are good to go. In fact step up rings are so light and inexpensive a additional set in your vehicle might be a good idea...
Whoops! In the above list I included 49-52 twice. One should be 40-52 which is my most used with several Canon ltm lenses.
Also the Summitar is the safest collapsible F2 lens to use on a V Series Canon (VT, VT deluxe (all variants), L-2, L-1, L-3, VL, VL2) or Canon P.
(Still waiting on your L-3 review, Matt.)
Thank you Adam!! And very sorry for my late answer. Yes I bought the 39mm adapter after the video actually so thanks. Very interesting about MC filters. I've never come across this before. I have many filters and step rings but I have no clue which are MC. Also did you see my latest recap video? A super nice guy sent me 4 filters!!! Crazy. I hope to use those when I can get out and then have the adapter coming for use with modern filters/hood.
Thanks, sorry about the L3!! I will try to give you a shout out when I finally make it. It's the dire lack of models and no travel that is delaying so many videos. (Need Covid to hurry up!) :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Ken Rockwell discusses filters here:
www.kenrockwell.com/tech/filters.htm
@@AGL93311 thanks Adam! P.S a friend is trying to get me to buy a Canon P! I won’t promise but that review may still follow too ;)
At 4:48. line the inside rim of push-on caps with medical cloth tapes you can find at drug stores. It will create a soft friction and will hold on. I do that with series filters on vintage large format lenses.
Great tip! Thanks for sharing this.
Love my summitar 5cm on my M262
Great to hear another supporter for this lens! Thanks
I just acquired an uncoated version of this lens, and I found a third party Summitar to 39mm adapter on fleabay, just waiting for that to arrive
Nice! Good lens, I did a recent video with the Summar too
your vids are helpful, do you clean your own haze on these lens? what do you use on this old glass? i have a couple of assorted lenses that i need to clean haze.
Hi Bob thanks, sorry i'm not that smart. I sent one away for repair last year as I don't have the tools or skills.
Character. That's what I'm looking for! And the Affordability factor makes it even more attractive!
Question 1: when the lens is pulled out (uncollapsed?), can it be locked in place when adjusting aperture and focus? Will it accidentally slip and collapse inwards and - God forbid! - damage the internals of camera bodies that aren't supposed to use collapsible lenses (eg. M5 and CL)?
Question 2: Is the 6-bladed one 'bad'? I see many commenting/raving on the 10 bladed one.
Hi! Yes this lens gives you character! Yes it locks out so no issues. I've not tried the 6 blade. The 10 is very nice and will give smoother bokeh.
Later versions also go down to f16 vs f12.5. I have a 97X serial number version
Thanks Frank! Yes I’ve not seen f12.5 on my lenses before!
Matt do you use it on a digital M also and is it safe to collapse it with M8 or M9p (my Ms)? With which camera did you take the presented shots
Yes I used my M240 or film
Hello, I enjoy very much your lens review. Have you ever tested the Summnar f2 collapsible lens?
Thanks Paolo, no I’ve not tested it yet but I understand the Summitar is better (sharper).
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Ok thanks for answering
You take great photos the woman you shoot are superb
Thanks so much.. yes I travel trying to find the best models to work with for my taste.
The Summitar was my first Leica lens! There was something dreamy about the images it produced. It is long gone but I still have 4 filters for it, 3 Leitz: the red Rm, blue PF, and yellow 1; and 1 B+W green 1. Let me know if you can use them.
Hi Zippy thanks for your kind offer! Very kind of you. I'm sure I can use them of course but you might want to sell on eBay instead as they are pretty expensive these days.
One alternative that might help the pocketbook: I have the essential yellow filter, but it is a push-on fit on the rim of the lens barrel. I was concerned about possible vignetting, but this appears to be negligible. This type of filter might be cheaper and easier to find.
@@jeremykeller211 thanks. I bought on actually but it wasn’t a good fit. I ordered the 39mm adapter so that I can use standard caps, hood and filter. Thanks for noting though and good point.
A re-make of the Leitz/Leica SNHOO Adapter is presently offered by some few sellers on Ebay in the U.K. Of course, it is not the original, but if it is identical and does the same job, then I see no reason not to use it.
Thanks Philipp, great spot
have you ever tried the helios 44m m39 mount ? only asking as it has that famous swirl and recently discovered that there is a leica compatible version!!
I have the M42 version and yes the swirl is great! Search Helios 44 and you should see it.
Top video ... Look like a killer lens :-)
Thanks Jerome! Yes if you can find a clean 10 blade they are full of character. A keeper!
Amazing review! I'm curious to know, would this lens work on a Leica M240 with LTM to M mount adapter? Or does it protrude too much collapsed and cause damage to the sensor? I noticed you referenced the M240 with the Leica Summitar 5cm f2 LTM lens instead.
Hi B, yes it works absolutely.. these lenses always work if not collapsed.. just dont collapse on some bodies to be safe. I think M240 is OK from memory.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Hi Matt, thank you for the reply. Agree, I would never collapse such a lens without knowing if it would cause damage, hence my inquiry. I know it would work extended, but it would be reassuring to know if it would be an issue collapsed for those "oops" situations. I'll drop a message to Leica and ask for comment. Will update here if I hear back.
@@bwest6275 Did you already clear your question? I am also thinking about using it on M240.
Are you looking forward to trying the new M 35 apo summicron nought . 3?
If I can get one to test I’ll be sure to share my thoughts here!
Hi Matt, thank you for this video review. I'm looking to buy this lens but do you know if the Summitar 5cm in its collapsed form would be safe to fit on a Leica m10?
Hi Paul, yes I get asked this a lot. I'm not sure if I show it in this video or others but yes I collapse it on my M cameras including M240 so it should be fine. (Just not crop bodies like CL I use - too small).
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you for taking the time to reply to me. really appreciate it!
Hi Paul, just a followup question, did you manage to try it with the M10? Is it safe? Thanks!
8:24 .... sorry Matt - which lens are you talking about?
Hi! "This lens" - sorry I meant the Summitar 50 f2. (The 3rd good lens is the Summarit 50 1.5 but the video was made before I had mine cleaned).
The ltm lens collapses no problem with an adapter? I tried the canon 5cm f1.9 collapsible and it catches the roof of the camera when trying to collapse or extend. You have to partially dismount the lens to extend or collapse.
With Ms I’ve had no issues (see some of my other videos and you’ll see it, perhaps search Elmar 5cm f3.5
With Ms I’ve had no issues (see some of my other videos and you’ll see it, perhaps search Elmar 5cm f3.5
I have a iiib with a Summitar which my father bought 2nd hand a long while before I was around in the 50’s. It still has its original cap and hood. The serial number is 66****, shuts down to f16 with 10 aperture blades. It looks un coated but I recall my father saying he had it coated for colour in the 70’s by Leica.
I’ve used it occasionally on my M10 and M9 but it’s pretty irreplaceable to me and these days lives on its iiib in my vintage cabinet. Thinking I might start using it a bit more.
Oh dang, I got the NOOKY HESUM, but i got a pristine IIIG and guess what, is sure doesnt fit viewfinder height 😂 story short, I need to get a pre IIIG Barnack Leica as well 😆
Hi Bruno, oh no sorry to hear! Yes that makes sense. I have the G but use it less than the others as bigger. Hopefully you can you it as an excuse to buy your iiig a little friend! :)
Just picked up this lens on your recommendation
Eeek! I hope you like it! :) I love mine :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom yes it's awesome. One film through it so far and like the results
@@emmysphotobook thanks Emmy! Happy to hear it :)
I had a coated Summitar. Still flared a lot and it had modern f-stops - 2, 2.8, 4, etc.
Yes some of these old lenses flare badly (especially if any small scratches too)
Can it be used for the Leica M10 without problems
Yes all Leica M/LTM lenses can be used on M cameras
I have the SL-2 and just bought for $679 US the Voigtlander 35mm f/1.7 that Matt recommended for high IQ cameras.
Since the SL-2 has a whopping 47mp and IBIS, I thought this aspheric lens would be just right combo
Hi I hope it works well for you. I must admit I've not tried it on a SL-2 / M10R so I hope it holds up. To my eyes it is similar to my 50mm Summilux. UI will use mine a lot more when we can go out again.
Hey Matt have you done a summicron version comparison? I've thought About buying one before it there's so many different versions and I hear they all give you a little something different
Hey Jon, correct. I only own 2 Summicron 50s and yes they are in 1 video but not a direct comparison image wise. The DR is popular but then so are a few others. Tricky one!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom yeah it's hard to tell which one is the best to invest in. Down day the bokeh king one but others say it's not that great? Who knows?
@@jonfassnacht9309 all I can say is try to buy one and try. Buy used and you won’t lose money if resell
Uncoated Leica lenses need a rectangular lens hood to keep out extraneous light, especially when using colour film.
I prefer my black Jupiter 8 50mm f2 at all apertures.
Great tip Neil thanks!
Hey Matt. What about the Leica M 50mm f2 Summicron Collapsible? Is that any good? Characteristics??
Hi Daniel, It's said to be sharper than the Summitar but i've not tested one. I only have the later DR and V5 versions. I would expect the Summitar to have more character and is sharp stopped down.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yeah I saw that the Summitar has nice classic renderings with lots of character. Any idea how this type of lens would perform on an SL body? Looking for something to contrast my 50mm SL APO Cron
@@danielfeatherstone674 will be fine on SL. I use on m240
Any focusing issues using this lens on an fsu body?
No it should be fine. I use FSU bodies too but might not have used this combination. At mid distance and aperture especially I don’t think you will notice
I wonder if the best alternative to Leica 2/50 isn't the Apo Voigtlander 2/50.
That video will come! I delayed testing it sue to lockdown.. it depends want you want. I expect the APO will be like the Leica APO - sharp. The Summitar has more character than both is my expectation.
Is it possible to mount the lens collapsed on a digital M?
Yes no issue from my experience. See my ‘smallest Leica lens’ video for a similar visual.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks!
your shots look much sharper then mine, wide open at f2 🤕 any suggestions? maybe need to screw it together tighter or something .... eek. shooting on an m8 btw
Hey sorry to hear it. It’s less easy on M8 as if calibration slightly out it won’t be pin sharp. (Do you use 1.4x magnifier eye piece to help focus?) Also some lenses might be less sharp and I edit mine sharper so a combination. (More contrast makes look sharper too*)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom ahh nice! Right now just using the finder as is. A 1.4 is a great idea. I think I just have some getting used to to do. Second day already the portraits are coming out nicer. Really interesting sensor…exposure has to be spot on for wonderful results, otherwise my color images are not great. The b&w’s are indeed strong on this lens/cam combo. I am getting some ghosting artifacts from the lens wide open. My version does have the coating however. Could be that old flare coating.
@@corwingarber yes I think you’ll get used to it and results will improve
How would this lense work on an M8?
Hi Johny, will be great. No issues 👍🏻
Do these collapsable lenses hit my camera sensor?
Depends what camera you use. See the sharpest 50 video and I show it on m240 and CL
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I'm using a Fujifilm X E2 and a Sony A7II. Thanks for the reply
@@TheoDahlemPickups I’m not up to speed on these cameras but I’m sure some Sony shooters have told me some of the old lenses fit. I would expect like the sharpest 50 video and the CL where it won’t fully collapse.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanx bunches
The question is , where the hell did you find a good copy without fungus and especially haze?
A lense that old will most of the time have lots of haze.
I can't find a good copy anywhere,
And the ones that are on ebay sell for way too much money ans aren't in good condition and I'm gentle.
Hi Arthur, I bought it with camera so it was a nice complete set rather than just a lens (we are often in worse condition). I bought before they became more popular but keep looking and hopefully you will find one.
Weekend highlight / Ulf
Thanks Ulf! 🙏🏻😊
Kind Sir, The Six blade Iris is actually a Non -Planar, 16 leaf, SPHERICAL aperture. Remove the outer elements to reveal that the leafs form a spherical surface to correct for well...spherical and achromatic aberration (smile). I am a retired biophysicist who has used and developed existing optics from Zeiss, Leica, Nikon Olympus technology for discovering neuroscience. This Iris was too expensive to manufacture, the the Physics of a Spherical Aperture is AWESOME!
Respect, you are correct about every light aspect of these lenses, Thank You.
Thanks Mark!
They are lovely lenses!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom They certainly Are ! Thanks for all the insight and Experience,
Vintage look .....?
It is the fata morgana of most photograpers who live now.
Almost impossible as long as they mount their favourite lens on a digital or an analog camera.
Todays black and white films can not show the vintage look.
Forget all modern black and white film developers.
Thou shall not push nor pull a film.
Multi Grade and RC papers have a plastic look.
The negative and reversal colour films of today are too clean.
Do not scan the negatives and do not make digital prints.
All you need is the craft and arts.
Plus the right equipement, films, ppapers and chemicals.
Buy BW films without the anti halo backing.
Buy colour negative films without the red masking.
Orthochromatic halftone single layer BW films are a must.
Do not use T grain and Delta BW films.
Panchromatic BW films need to be exposed via a blue filter.
Never do a pre wash before the developing of the film.
Do not tap or bang the developing tank on the table.
Rodinal or Adonal 1:50 and 1:100 are the best developers
for BW negatives.
Print on BW chlorobromide paper, non clossy, double weight, made by Forte.
A Viradon rinse for 10 minutes gives a vintage colouring of the print.
I only read the first 4 lines and I said “Jaco” lol, I checked and it was!
Your thumbnail is looking weird
Thanks Vikas, sometimes CZcams show them
Big with writing overlaid and it can make the bottom half go weird. In other views it should look normal.
Six bladed aperture is ugly
Yes more blades tends to always look nicer