What If An Alternate Versailles Led to WW2 in 1920?

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  • čas přidán 21. 12. 2023
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Komentáře • 405

  • @stephenquinn3447
    @stephenquinn3447 Před 5 měsíci +1178

    I like to think Britain is still a monarchy, George V just got so angry that he became a communist

  • @bukanIqbal375
    @bukanIqbal375 Před 5 měsíci +1898

    Average HOI4 Non historical gameplay :

  • @rippedlincoln
    @rippedlincoln Před 5 měsíci +742

    I did this all for Syria
    Did I get Syria? No
    Was it worth it? Yes

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history Před 5 měsíci +115

      100% worth it, we made the best possible lore on accident

    • @Aq_3
      @Aq_3 Před 5 měsíci +17

      totaly xd@@rewriting-history

    • @Ihatebritain
      @Ihatebritain Před 5 měsíci +14

      Absolutely Based

    • @Nn91.
      @Nn91. Před 5 měsíci +26

      Breaking News: American man turns the Third French Republic communist after disastrous peace treaty in Versailles.
      “HE WOULDNT GIVE ME MY SYRIA!!!”

    • @abewright1713
      @abewright1713 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Lol

  • @Makarosc
    @Makarosc Před 5 měsíci +299

    Mom can we have Kaiserreich?
    Mom: we have Kaiserreich at home
    Kaiserreich at home:

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 Před 5 měsíci +13

      Honestly this is closer to an Eagle/Libertyreich where the USA becomes dominant Superpower in WWI.

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@anvos658 Hes reffering to Britain anf France becoming communist. In the first video they even used the totalist (Kaiserreich Stalinist) Britain and Syndie French flags

    • @exospheriaUSA
      @exospheriaUSA Před 4 měsíci +1

      Doppelreich

  • @josephknott6174
    @josephknott6174 Před 5 měsíci +716

    This peace treaty was going so well until the whole Austria Hungary / Arabia disagreement. I think in future all sides should have to agree to the treaty as a whole at the end in order for it to pass, as long as no-one lacks the ability to compromise it should lead to better peace deals

    • @Kyotzin
      @Kyotzin Před 5 měsíci +116

      peace deal? holy mother fucking shit is that a motherfucking hoi4 reference???? hoi4 is the best game ever!!!!!!

    • @possiblehistory
      @possiblehistory  Před 5 měsíci +330

      Absolutely agree, this was meant to be the "realistic" attempt. It got off the rails at the end. Next time I will (again) attempt to keep it realistic. My idea is to have me not actually participate, but only lead the conversation - acting as the arbiter. X amount of other CZcamsrs will do the actual negotiating amongst themselves. Maybe a point system with goals could help, so there is actually a victor at the end...

    • @stupiditiusmaximus
      @stupiditiusmaximus Před 5 měsíci +5

      ​@@KyotzinJojo reference spotted.
      **Everything is a JoJo reference**

    • @thanatosexcelsior3711
      @thanatosexcelsior3711 Před 5 měsíci +52

      @@possiblehistory Next time you should invite random viewers to act as the minor parties in the peace treaty, maybe giving them 0.5 or 0.25 of a vote to balance it out or something similar

    • @josephknott6174
      @josephknott6174 Před 5 měsíci +34

      Just like to say though as that did sound a bit negative that I still really enjoyed and appreciated the content!

  • @utubrGaming
    @utubrGaming Před 5 měsíci +127

    Let me guess, the Royalists in Britain fled to Canada, where they await Reclamation, while the French Republic evacuates and establishes themselves in Algeria...

  • @rewriting-history
    @rewriting-history Před 5 měsíci +85

    Imagine doing so much for the Arabs, starting a massive European war, and they don't even join on your side to show support.

    • @bukanIqbal375
      @bukanIqbal375 Před 5 měsíci

      Very worth it ik

    • @wikiacount8697
      @wikiacount8697 Před 5 měsíci

      They would be in a civil war, arabia post ww1 has many states they need to be pacified first.

    • @ale-xsantos1078
      @ale-xsantos1078 Před 5 měsíci +5

      At least you prevent 9/11(?)

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 Před 5 měsíci +7

      To be fair their in the same boat as this Austria/Danube Federation of can't do jack squat.

    • @Yanxve
      @Yanxve Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ale-xsantos1078 Yes, yes it does.

  • @user-qq6mp9bp2q
    @user-qq6mp9bp2q Před 5 měsíci +58

    Bulgarian Yugoslavia seems to pop up surprisingly often

    • @Ta-m01
      @Ta-m01 Před 4 měsíci +1

      cuz its good

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před 2 měsíci +3

      It's almost like there's an ethnical reason for them to be stuffed into Yugoslavia.

    • @luki7614
      @luki7614 Před měsícem

      yeah ethnicly slavic​@@gengarzilla1685

    • @borisminchev9224
      @borisminchev9224 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@Ta-m01
      Bulgarian yugoslavia is like putting a cat and a dog in a box and kicking it

  • @Great_Olaf5
    @Great_Olaf5 Před 5 měsíci +31

    I call India taking the opportunity for independence as well, and I don't see Britain being able to take it back after the war as easily as they could their Arabian colonies.

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 Před 5 měsíci

      Well yes its highly likely an end result of the communist uprisings is the USA forcing a lot of decolonialization.

  • @whoareyouyouareclearlylost323
    @whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 Před 5 měsíci +56

    With oil becoming increasingly important and the fact that the Arabian state is thankful for the US support it would support the US demand for oil supply very cheaply (so no opec in the future) and if the Saudi would push out the British off Arabia the British wouldn't be able to stop its oil supply because these oil pumps would jeopardise the US supply and the US would try to 'mediate' meaning the Arabia state would be able to push off the British colonies and nothing would happen...

    • @andrewryan4417
      @andrewryan4417 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Funny enough, this sounds like the game lore of an RTS game where instead of Britain, America intervenes in the Middle East to push out the Germans after the puppet Sultan was caught making deals with other powers.
      Iron Harvest if you've heard of it.

    • @whoareyouyouareclearlylost323
      @whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@andrewryan4417 Iron Harvest is a gem.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper Před 5 měsíci +2

      In this scenario, the Saudis wouldn't have the power base needed to be a major player, unlike in our timeline, because the Lawrence of Arabia agreement would actually be enforced.

    • @whoareyouyouareclearlylost323
      @whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@InfernosReaper The Saudi's would never come to power, the Hejaz would stay in control a moderate faction with more ties to the west and more likely to ally with the Allies for IF WWII might happen and in times of the Cold war.

  • @peterwainio2134
    @peterwainio2134 Před 5 měsíci +138

    I would like to recommend a concept for a new series you could do. The idea is that you take the place of a historical leader, and you choose what decisions to make as that historical leader based on what would be the most beneficial for the nation the historical leader you chose ruled over. The way you would go about doing this is you would base your decisions off of the knowledge you had at your disposal at the time. For example, you could do a video where you take the place of Louis XIV and you choose how you would expand the size, influence and power of France in the 17th and 18th centuries. Or you could take the place of Louis XV and decide how you could preserve the French empire in America and India. Perhaps you could even take the place of Louis XVI and decide how you could prevent the french revolution if you were in his position. A criticism you could levy at this idea is that it’s too similar to the series you’re already doing on “What if everything went perfectly for X”, but I disagree. Firstly, this series is about making decisions as a single person, not for an entire nation over the course of hundreds of years. Secondly, with your “What if everything went perfectly for X” series, you utilize the benefit of hindsight. With this series, you limit yourself to the knowledge of your chosen leader. You Don’t HAVE to do it this way, you could utilize the benefit of hindsight for this series too, but limiting yourself this way would help differentiate this series from your “What if everything went perfectly for X” series. You might as well try this idea on for a video and see how it performs. If it performs badly, you don’t have to continue it. But if it performs well, you could have another successful series on your hands. It is low risk, high reward. With how many historical leaders there are, the possibilities for this series are limitless! Some ideas for historical leaders to make videos on are Seleucus, Justinian, Louis the Pious, John I, Charles V, Phillip II of Spain, Charles XII, Peter III, Napoleon, Charles X, Napoleon III, Kaiser Wilhelm II, and so many more!

    • @jokiejook8659
      @jokiejook8659 Před měsícem

      Honestly, I would probably like this type of video.

  • @darrylbonner7208
    @darrylbonner7208 Před 5 měsíci +54

    For once PH's views didn't destroy Europe, it was him and the boys.

  • @saltyamalgamate
    @saltyamalgamate Před 5 měsíci +149

    Can you please do a "What if the cold war was switched up?" video? AKA what if the USA had a communist revolution during the great depression and what if the Russian state won the civil war.

    • @someonestupid6385
      @someonestupid6385 Před 5 měsíci +11

      depends on what government gets to power in russia if the tsarists regime its already over for russia nicolas was very against industrialization and educating his population because he thought it would cause rebelions and im sure he would clamp down on it even more kicking russia back into the dark age or the russian democratic state get to power and with that its also already over as without any forced mass industrialization like during stalin there is just no way for russia to actually compete with the usa

    • @saltyamalgamate
      @saltyamalgamate Před 5 měsíci +13

      @@someonestupid6385 It's important to also consider that communism worked so well for Russia because of where it was at industrially at the time. A communist USA would see even more political isolation and economic stagnation due to how entrenched the capitalism was back then while Russia, whichever direction it went, would see slower economic growth but also wary cooperation with the UK and France against the rising Germany. I would love to see this because the scenario seems to be a politically isolated behemoth of a US vs a huge but worn down and fragile coalition of Democracies and Monarchies.

    • @bumblebee.146
      @bumblebee.146 Před 5 měsíci +5

      ​@@someonestupid6385 russia was industrialising fast under the last 2 tzars.

    • @FedericoGrimaudo
      @FedericoGrimaudo Před 5 měsíci

      Cool idea

    • @BartoszLimanowski
      @BartoszLimanowski Před 5 měsíci

      Very good idea

  • @Poltergeist3651
    @Poltergeist3651 Před 5 měsíci +26

    In the peace deals someone should represent the smaller nation, even if they dont have a vote they might still be able to inflence by simply anoying the others till they give in

    • @snertmoskalyam
      @snertmoskalyam Před 5 měsíci +3

      Like Romania just got scammed and didn't receive anything

  • @liladoodle
    @liladoodle Před 5 měsíci +15

    This video is just the feeling of 'How it feels to play Kaiserreich/Kaiserredux for the first time'.

  • @22LongRifle
    @22LongRifle Před 5 měsíci +125

    Can you make a "What if EVERYTHING went perfect for Japan"?

    • @CheckmateSurvivor
      @CheckmateSurvivor Před 5 měsíci +1

      I would prefer a scenario without globalists.

    • @dawoifee
      @dawoifee Před 5 měsíci +1

      Didn't it in our Timeline?

    • @abuhajar4222
      @abuhajar4222 Před 5 měsíci +12

      Hell on Earth for the Indo-Pacific

    • @YahirDejesusflores-vz6gp
      @YahirDejesusflores-vz6gp Před 5 měsíci

      Sourthen vyctory alternative turtledove saludos desde México

    • @buzter8135
      @buzter8135 Před 5 měsíci

      @@CheckmateSurvivor Was the East-asian Co-prosperity sphere a globalist project? Wasn't it just an influence network of the Japanese Empire?

  • @vaultboy1469
    @vaultboy1469 Před 5 měsíci +11

    Most historical HOI4 peace deal:

  • @EldestBrick
    @EldestBrick Před 5 měsíci +136

    Both scenarios are good but I definetly think the Communists loosing makes more sence.

    • @rippedlincoln
      @rippedlincoln Před 5 měsíci +36

      As an objective and neutral observer, I disagree

    • @EldestBrick
      @EldestBrick Před 5 měsíci +27

      @@rippedlincoln The only resong I think the communists loosing makes more sence is because the British and French wouldn't have been able to switch to communisms so easily.

    • @sonderment
      @sonderment Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@EldestBrickdefinitely

    • @randomguy6152
      @randomguy6152 Před 5 měsíci +14

      ​@@EldestBrickFrance could have France almost voted in a communist party irl Britain on the other hand wouldn't have been a easy change

    • @stageblood9935
      @stageblood9935 Před 5 měsíci +8

      communism in france isnt that far fetched.@@EldestBrick

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před 5 měsíci +23

    Part 2 awesome! Love all the collabs!

  • @Vexillogically
    @Vexillogically Před 5 měsíci +10

    Achievement Unlocked: How did we get here?

  • @nitalova8819
    @nitalova8819 Před 5 měsíci +8

    but...what happens to german samoa? D:

  • @requiem6465
    @requiem6465 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Least chaotic HOI4 alt history mod

    • @konnosx1213
      @konnosx1213 Před 3 měsíci +2

      unironically, Red Flood is WAY more insane

  • @tannersplace321
    @tannersplace321 Před 5 měsíci +7

    A what if scenario I’d like to see is what if Japan purchased Alaska? I just think it’d be interesting to see the scenario because Alaska has a lot of resources the Japanese Empire needed and went to war over.

  • @affdafwfwa
    @affdafwfwa Před 5 měsíci +9

    What if you guys do the peace treaties for these ones too LMAO

  • @shavayconnell1437
    @shavayconnell1437 Před 5 měsíci +12

    Can you make a video what if everything went perfect for Britain

  • @barsukascool
    @barsukascool Před 5 měsíci +10

    What if EVERYTHING went PERFECT for Lithuania?

    • @P0PG03S
      @P0PG03S Před 5 měsíci +1

      Y e s.

    • @snertmoskalyam
      @snertmoskalyam Před 5 měsíci

      1.didn't lose Wilno to poles
      2.anyway be conquered by soviets and germans

  • @thesovietsarecoming
    @thesovietsarecoming Před 5 měsíci +2

    Ngl this would sound like the BEST alternate history hoi4 scenario out there. Imagine being able to play as france and hold off 3 major powers and a civil war. Or you could be a minor, such as Bulgaria, and have fun watching the world explode.

  • @matthewhill8144
    @matthewhill8144 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Please expand upon this idea, it's really really interesting.

  • @zooman_expeditions8984
    @zooman_expeditions8984 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Great video Possible History! I loved the other video and this was amazing!

  • @carlose4314
    @carlose4314 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I could see the Danubian Federation in the second scenario transition into a more EU-like alliance.

  • @ChariTheAlternate
    @ChariTheAlternate Před 5 měsíci

    This is / was amazing!!!

  • @Twiggydyls
    @Twiggydyls Před 5 měsíci +6

    Wow some more Kaiseriech lore😁

  • @moredac2881
    @moredac2881 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Video idea: “what if the US joined the League of Nations?” Is there any feasible scenario in which WWII could be a avoided or changed significantly?

  • @scouttrooper3123
    @scouttrooper3123 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Question. Do you use custom maps or are these map available somewhere for public use/viewing? Also, what program/asset do you use to edit the maps?

  • @sutrajaiz
    @sutrajaiz Před 5 měsíci +10

    Sick video so far. Would love to see a continuation of some of the older collabs too.

  • @davimendesboni8777
    @davimendesboni8777 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Average kaiserreich gameplay

  • @Gabeslicor
    @Gabeslicor Před 5 měsíci +2

    I've been waiting for this for months!!

  • @GL1TCH.LOVES.MAPPING
    @GL1TCH.LOVES.MAPPING Před 5 měsíci +1

    I love watching PH

  • @revantobias8567
    @revantobias8567 Před 5 měsíci +3

    But does italy build any more canals?

  • @thatguyoverthere225
    @thatguyoverthere225 Před 5 měsíci +9

    (2nd scenario) Even though it's the most likely option, the idea of the US fighting for the king of England specifically, and not the English as a whole, is insane. I could see America just copy-paste our government system onto the UK and France afterward. It wouldn't last more than a few years in England before another monarchy would be created (English tradition and blah blah), but I can see it lasting to present day in France and the rest of the UK.

  • @muhammadhabibieamiro3639
    @muhammadhabibieamiro3639 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I have been waiting for this video

  • @Lifi210
    @Lifi210 Před 5 měsíci

    What app did you use for editing the map and where did you find the map?

  • @shavayconnell1437
    @shavayconnell1437 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Can you make what if everything went perfect for Britain

    • @bukanIqbal375
      @bukanIqbal375 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Stop spamming😭😭

    • @ruin8891
      @ruin8891 Před 5 měsíci +1

      All of humanity would have bad teeth

  • @danever159
    @danever159 Před 5 měsíci +4

    i recomend what if everything went perfect for uk/france/italy and if spain stayed at #1 most powerful country for longer.

  • @Stormgamer-xb7gv
    @Stormgamer-xb7gv Před 5 měsíci

    Merry Christmas Everyone! 🎄🎁 🎅

  • @migclar-sy5vz
    @migclar-sy5vz Před 5 měsíci +1

    the new remaster looking fire, maybe I'll go play the original and dlcs.

  • @haloreacondeltareach2738
    @haloreacondeltareach2738 Před měsícem

    Hey I have a question. What is the application you use to edit these maps and what do you use to get maps that you edit

  • @casssaph2287
    @casssaph2287 Před 5 měsíci +1

    the de-facto freedom of movement between the federation, serbo-bulgaria, romania, and poland, as well as de-facto freedom of trade (due to overlapping federal law as well as treaties between federal crowns) seems very interesting to me...
    could be the foundation of an eastern european union :o
    other nations would likely end up joining as well, due to their struggling economies (looking at france and the uk... probably everyone in europe as well, honestly.)
    i wonder who would end up being the greatest economic power and who would end up "leading"?

  • @dogsittinggay7273
    @dogsittinggay7273 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Could you do a video about what if everything went perfect for the Ottoman Empire after the siege of Vienna fails

  • @ammazer1229
    @ammazer1229 Před 5 měsíci +34

    The second timeline is by far the more likely one. America would never just let France & especially Britain become communist.

    • @wires-sl7gs
      @wires-sl7gs Před 5 měsíci

      Same with the Middle Classes in France and Britain, Strong Middle Classes being the reason Communist only Emerges in Semi-Industrialized/Non-Industrialized Nations or through conquest

    • @cosmo1851
      @cosmo1851 Před 5 měsíci

      I think it's somewhat unlikely. If only because I don't see a reason as to why France, and Britain, would suddenly declare war on THE USA, of all places, while also in the middle of a civil war.

  • @user-rp5ir1wi9f
    @user-rp5ir1wi9f Před 4 měsíci

    Please do something like this again but as a live stream

  • @andreasvargamadsen3127
    @andreasvargamadsen3127 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I don't think there is a so big romanian population in transylvania. The North side of the region was inhabited by a group of people cold "szèkelys" who was really stubborn and aggressive. I don't think they would likely accept that they have stronger bonds to a nation, who's people came to transylvania a lot after them, even if they came in large numbers.

  • @chococ_
    @chococ_ Před 5 měsíci +1

    honestly im surprised the unification of Bulgaria and Serbia even happened, i expected a civil war to break out almost immediately

  • @user-bo6ru6rk3d
    @user-bo6ru6rk3d Před 5 měsíci +9

    wow, this video just shows how 5 people can competently reorganise Europe without any consequences!!1!11

  • @filberttheodorus3040
    @filberttheodorus3040 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I think, with the conclusion of the scenario in this video, the Asia region will become more interesting, especially for the British and French colonies in South and Southeast Asia. as in our timeline, most of colonies break off from their colonial overlord, due their overlord cannot sustain the heavy damage of the war fought before. and with this timeline, I think there's possibility that either Indochina will free on their own state (Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos) that eventually influence by either Thai, or the Japanese. British colonies will become more interesting, especially with the Raj and Malaya, that can break up or just release by the British from their colonial status as independent state, and have possibility to become more united and cohesive nation rather than break up into multiple nation determine by ethnic line, and will form the commonwealth organization/association that are similar with the one that we have in this modern world. I think you should go have more discussion of the region of south east and south Asia as they are interesting and impactful to the world history as well and the East and West Asia region. Love your video tho.

  • @ale-xsantos1078
    @ale-xsantos1078 Před 5 měsíci +7

    I prefer the first scenario, not because it would be a better world(it would not) but because if we go with "well a revolution wouldnt have succeeded in France and Britain" then we would have to discard the rest of the premise since logically it wouldnt have been accepted
    So if we take that the agreements made in the previous video stick, including the revolutions, I think the 1° is the logical outcome as the US was already too war weary and it had just fought Germany, so fighting both Britain & France after that as well as Russia feels like it'd be too much for the public to tolerate

  • @propernoun1583
    @propernoun1583 Před 5 měsíci

    What happened to your perfect axis video plan?

  • @Chorusier
    @Chorusier Před 5 měsíci +11

    I still find it funny how this just became Kaiserreich when though it was originally about Versailles.

    • @minestar2247
      @minestar2247 Před 5 měsíci

      Any timeline with the West turning communist during the inter war ends up like kaiserreich

  • @kiravatheargonian
    @kiravatheargonian Před 5 měsíci

    That first Scenario is just like a solid fourth of my ATLs 😂

  • @NewDealChief
    @NewDealChief Před 5 měsíci +1

    Average first time Kaiserreich/redux gameplay:

  • @Das-ist-k-ein-VIRUS
    @Das-ist-k-ein-VIRUS Před 5 měsíci +1

    Super video

  • @babaganoosh138
    @babaganoosh138 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Scenario Idea: what if history went perfect for the Qing Dynasty

  • @pirukiddingme1908
    @pirukiddingme1908 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Honestly I think the civil wars in france and Britain would be quite a bit more drawn out, there would definitely be ways to form a coalition supporting a revolution at least in Britain, considering places like south wales and east London were electing radical leftists even in 1945. You could even say that most of the mining towns and industrial cities would be more favourable to revolution if ww1 didn’t go as it did in our tl

  • @Jarzatontheman
    @Jarzatontheman Před 5 měsíci +2

    Communist ending:a United soviet world
    Revolution put down ending:capitalism
    Conclusion they both end up in more war from religion and language

  • @CARL_093
    @CARL_093 Před 5 měsíci

    good job bros

  • @tommasocoronese9988
    @tommasocoronese9988 Před 2 měsíci

    Would love to have friend to do this kind of alt history map😂

  • @VirgoShelter
    @VirgoShelter Před 5 měsíci +2

    If I understand this correctly, you got American not wanting war by having Britain surprise attack their ships to cripple the USN in one go?
    We saw with another island based nation that that leads to the opposite results

  • @floor737
    @floor737 Před 5 měsíci +12

    This video might be awesome, but do you know what else would be awesome? A "what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario"
    (Please make a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)

    • @GwainSagaFanChannel
      @GwainSagaFanChannel Před 5 měsíci +4

      Norway was not even an independent country untill 19th century so you would have to start this with it being during the medieval ages when the Norway was still a major power

    • @ruin8891
      @ruin8891 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I would rather want to see Sweden

    • @TheEpikalREKT
      @TheEpikalREKT Před 5 měsíci

      norWAY!

    • @sebe2255
      @sebe2255 Před 5 měsíci

      So basically what if Norway won the Battle of Stamford bridge

  • @bradleydelay
    @bradleydelay Před 4 měsíci

    A couple small caviats:
    - Communist EU politics would in all likelihood be very chaotic. A sociaoist france would already be a strange beast with the conflict in power between the party and the CGT, and Britain entering would also bring ideas of Keynsianism. On top of that, adding in other forces like the KPD and all of their factions, the CPI and all of their factions, including mussolini, and all of the different communist and national communist movements across former Hapsburg territory. European politics would be at a crossroads between coping with and ending factionalism, which would firmly decide whether this new state would be a more federalist one or a twin to the Soviets. Theres also the issue of the economic model, as you cant just assume theyll follow the Soviet planning model, as Europe is far more industrialized than the USSR, especially by the 1920s. Even if European politics would vecome a one party anti-factionalist Bolshevik style state, theur economics would undoubtedly be different, likely with more emphasis on labor unions (subservient to the state or not) being the backbone of the industrial economy.
    - Secondly, I don't entitely understand why the USSR would not have intervened in the european war. Britain and France declaring revolution ends up validating internationalist thought, which would entail more effort on the part of the USSR to intervene. How would the ensuing peace work if the USSR entered the picture?

  • @singam7436
    @singam7436 Před 5 měsíci +4

    We should also note that since Marxism at this point of time tended towards anti-imperialism, we could possibly see at least an accelerated decolonisation, with the former colonies possibly becoming Communist puppet states (even if the cause of the revolution was that France and Britain didn't get mandates)

    • @singam7436
      @singam7436 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Or, perhaps to make this lore even more cursed, India becomes integral British territory in the same way Algeria is with France

  • @BamBamAbraham
    @BamBamAbraham Před 5 měsíci +1

    Nice

  • @SteelRyan
    @SteelRyan Před 5 měsíci +3

    Isn't it hilarious that it is the US f-ing around in the middle east all over again causing this! XD

  • @Sutton-vp3bf
    @Sutton-vp3bf Před 5 měsíci +1

    Do a peace conference based on if the entente negotiated a fair treaty after Russia fell

  • @PeterChadwell-bz5xn
    @PeterChadwell-bz5xn Před 5 měsíci +2

    I liked this scenario

  • @thomwg7452
    @thomwg7452 Před 2 měsíci

    The only WW2 scenario where Italy is not the sore underbelly of Europe.

  • @Xilir2009
    @Xilir2009 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I find the anti communist win scenario almost perfectly ballaces and managed. Germany ist humiliated and still keeps a moderatly large militery and is set up for majore economic boom once the shadow of ww1 fades. The habsburg empire is almost perfect with how its set up. They can crush every single enemy of them isolated and if they ream up. The twin german nation kann help. Italy isn't humiliated and with all the majore new territory like tunisia and dalmatia is set up to survive the economic collapse and most likely doesn't fall to fascists. The twin german nations can curb soviet expansion and beat tgem back. The revolution in the entante has bean crushed and even if they fall to revanschist regimes like always the twin german nations can stop them. I feal like in this new world that the twin germans will almost be like the police of europe and keep order in it.

  • @Icantstop850
    @Icantstop850 Před 5 měsíci

    I WAS JUST WATCHING IT 🤯

  • @kristoffervalen2935
    @kristoffervalen2935 Před 5 měsíci

    Chiang Kai Shek was actually friendly with the Soviets until Stalin for some reason until Mao's long march since the KMT was accepting German arms while fighting the Imperial army of Japan.

  • @propernoun1583
    @propernoun1583 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Here’s an idea: completely Balkanized Europe over ethnic lines.

  • @heavymetal3264
    @heavymetal3264 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What would WWII look like?

  • @stargazer-elite
    @stargazer-elite Před 5 měsíci

    5:38 Switzerland wheat from 😎🍿🥤 to 😳😨😤

  • @mininoble2253
    @mininoble2253 Před 5 měsíci

    The Maimed fighting the blind in 1920.

  • @DavidEspinoza-gy6fx
    @DavidEspinoza-gy6fx Před 5 měsíci

    This should really be a HOI4 mod.

  • @TELOSgamer
    @TELOSgamer Před 5 měsíci

    # 5:20 you forgot Italy's border on (Istria I think)

  • @Julianist
    @Julianist Před 5 měsíci +1

    Omg finally ❤

  • @Spaceplayzsfs
    @Spaceplayzsfs Před 5 měsíci +1

    One thousandth like!Wow!I never get that opportunity!

  • @Lamberto2024
    @Lamberto2024 Před 5 měsíci

    What my mom thinks will happen after I miss 1 day of school:

  • @pjolex5896
    @pjolex5896 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Look at kaiserreich mod for hoi4

  • @gerwaltspodnovigradu5508
    @gerwaltspodnovigradu5508 Před 5 měsíci +6

    The second one by a mile, I think - with pilsucki as the most influential person in poland - he would push for uniting poland with galicia, I could also see polish and western relations sour a lot beacuse poland was promised an independent state with sea Access which they didn't get

    • @finnmuller9079
      @finnmuller9079 Před 5 měsíci

      I think maybe the Habsburgs would "sell" Galicia for support against the Nationalists revolutions and maybe some trade stuff. Maybe only northern Galicia where German majority regions are rare. The rest could then join up with the Slovakians. Also I don't think the Czechs would get their own crown, but rather be Germanised over the next few decades.

    • @gerwaltspodnovigradu5508
      @gerwaltspodnovigradu5508 Před 5 měsíci

      @@finnmuller9079 the entire region of Galica (exept lyiv) had huge ukrainian minorotiy, Poland had historic ties with the region and without Independent ukrainian state the region would be given to Poland instead of slovakia in this scenatio beacuse I highly doubt slovakians would want to have do many ukrainians, Poland had already many ukrainians who - exept a few crashes irl - very much liked being in Poland and we - in contrast to popular believe - were treating them like poles, czechs I highly doupt would get completly germanized, it isn't easy to assimilate completly different culture and language, I could easily see Czech nationality survive another couple hungred years

    • @finnmuller9079
      @finnmuller9079 Před 5 měsíci

      @gerwaltspodnovigradu5508 well I agree. It is fiction in the end and I just created my own Austria-Hungary ending. If I were the Austrian Government I'd disperse the Czechs in the empire and mostly resettle those lands with ethnic germans and minorities in the empire (greatly dispersed ofc) so they would have to convert their culture (yes this is ethnic "cleansing" and yes this is a crime against Humanity but this is fiction and I'm the evil guy around.) The Ukrainian and polish population in Galicia isn't really interesting to AH as it only caused unrest (unrealistic I know, but I like my big bad evil AH). The Empire would hang onto the entire Karparts tho as they are a great natural border. Maybe a population exchange with Polands germanised people and settlers in Posen would happen. I would also see ethnic cleansing in Majority Romanian lands and or trying to create a separate transylvanian Identity in "southern Transylvania" (I know this ain't a real thing, but think of the hoi4 province).
      That is my AH ending.

    • @gerwaltspodnovigradu5508
      @gerwaltspodnovigradu5508 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@finnmuller9079 that was the biggest problem for Austria hungary, if they only tried to clear out one minority every other would start revolting, that's why they didn't do it

    • @finnmuller9079
      @finnmuller9079 Před 5 měsíci

      @gerwaltspodnovigradu5508 I know, I know. But as this happens in a time after AH basically was dead and now is revived I see those regions under heavy military occupation. Maybe the "cleansing" is even Supported by the north germans and Poles (who would gain most of Galicia). I also see this AH, North Germany and Poland in a close relationship as they were the ones defeating the communists in this timeline while also partially fighting for the same side in WW1.
      Italy on the other hand took lands of AH so I wouldn't see them as as close.

  • @natescoolplace
    @natescoolplace Před 5 měsíci

    Finally scenario where Austria-Hungary is involved

  • @user-qd7cc4wd9g
    @user-qd7cc4wd9g Před 5 měsíci

    Can you do “What if everything went perfect for Romania”?

    • @Tovalokodonc
      @Tovalokodonc Před 5 měsíci

      It already did in our timeline. You joined, did absolutely nothing, lost, yet still gained more than 100% your territory

  • @Strqwberriez_
    @Strqwberriez_ Před 5 měsíci

    W video (love ur videos)

  • @solelak
    @solelak Před 5 měsíci +2

    Hey, at least austrian painter doesn't get the wrong idea and make the world go back to shit for 6 years, so better than versailles anyway.

  • @ooi97
    @ooi97 Před 5 měsíci

    Soon: *Kingdom of the two Polands*

  • @AyroTysk
    @AyroTysk Před 5 měsíci

    The french guy should get racket to the downside of a 1700s imperial boat.

  • @MGamerYTBoyMemer
    @MGamerYTBoyMemer Před 5 měsíci

    Average aoc2 player's scenario be like:

  • @matthiuskoenig3378
    @matthiuskoenig3378 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What if the Grand Dutchy of Lithuania had a PU with Moskovy instead of Poland. Creating the Russo-Lithuanian commonwealth/Empire instead of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth.

  • @dragon-ksp
    @dragon-ksp Před 5 měsíci

    please do if everything went perfect for poland (the 2nd RP)

  • @alishermukhametkali9230
    @alishermukhametkali9230 Před 5 měsíci

    Blessed timeline

  • @Lawfair
    @Lawfair Před 5 měsíci +1

    Having just watched the previous video, I am wondering how long Britain and France can survive a war with America, given they are completely broke.