Jose Taco I said the same thing & now I have made several picks and tensioner wrenches & can now unlock my house by picking the lock almost as fast as I can with the key. Plus, lock picking isn’t a bad skill to master. You never know when you’re going to have a brain fart and lock yourself out of your house.
Same thing with me. Im actually happy i found his channel. Having locked myself out of several things this overlooked skill could have saved some money. As others have said i could see this being a really addictive hobby like playing a guitar almost.
I leave mean comments I don’t know if this is the same lock. This one is the 37/80 and the one he said that was the 37rk/80. Now I have no idea if they are the same locks or not, maybe someone could answer that question.
2023 here, he is now in prison for picking the nuclear vaults at the pentagon. He made it but was dissatisfied with his timings on picking the vaults open, and went for a second round and got caught.
I used a version of this lock to protect my shed... the police turned up before the people got through the lock because... people in my garden with a saw and drill attacking the lock caused too much noise and attention. Sadly they got away... but my shed was still secure, even though I had to replace the lock. Nothing protects you from the professional locksmiths
I guess they really wanted to get into your shed? Did it have anything that visually identified it as a target? Anything visibly valuable that could be seen through windows? Because otherwise surely a lock as beefy as this one would deter thieves unless they were really determined to steal something that they knew existed.
mrk vdr your intuitive reaction is what sells high security locks and drives the technology race. however, locks are made by people, therefore people can open them. "the race" is where insurance companies, lock experts, thieves, consumers etc. find meaning. the race will never end so long as there are competing parties. so, without starting to talk about communism, I will end my comment here.
Joe Abus changed the design multiple times, so I think you can‘t really tell from the outside. However the keys are different (pronounced taper towards the very end, more cuts since there are more disks, one with LED light) and the new variant comes with a code card that says something like Plus (tm) on it.
Very awesome that you picked this. I would say there are only a handful of people in the world who could stand a chance of picking this open. You are one of them.
The spacers are really important for the functioning of the lock. The spacers is notched to have them be stationary in the core. The aim of the spacers is to prevent a adjacent disc to rotate by friction (or goo in the lock gumming it up) when you turn the key, because that would make it impossible to open the lock. The spacers also are a bit springy, to avoid the core rattling, so the discs are under lateral spring tension.
The 8th disc is a butterfly disc. Newer cores also have a butterfly at the first position. These discs prevent tensioning because they can be turned one step too far and then block the sidebar. To circumvent this, one has do tensioning on the second disc from the front or the back. But then there's still the problem that the disc is on the wrong position when used to tension. I would love to see you pick an newer version. The Abus 88/50 or 89/50 can be bought cheap on ebay and also have a removable core. It would be also great to hear something about building detainer picks at home. Keep going with these interesting disc detainer locks!!!
So I got my 88/50. Butterfly rear and front...but annoyingly, the 2nd disc in is a 6 (I'd normally call this a 0) and drives the lock, so you can tension on that if you want. But I have picked it using rear tension and setting the butterfly disc last. This is pretty difficult. I have also picked it tensioning from the front, on the 2nd disc. I have also picked it from the front butterfly. If the 2nd disc were not a driving disc (and chances are, it won't be) then I have an easy way to still pick the lock. Thanks for the advice, this is a cool lock and was pretty cheap.
As I get deeper and deeper into the archive I continue to be amazed at what disc-detainer tools looked like before LPL and Bosnian Bill made their own!
i'm super impressed with disc detainer locks, i think the mechanism is really elegant, and how they function together is very impressive, and quite an engineering feat to make sure all the discs line up just right with a key.... i also concour with the notion of if these parts are stamped by lower cost manufacturers, why don't they include false gates? my only reasonable conlustion is that the stamping process is too inacurate, and their dyes may not get to a finer depth, that any false gate, could simply act as a secondary gate, making it even easier to pick....
I really enjoy your videos. Have you seen aVe's channel? He takes apart various tools and gizmos and analyzes them the way do locks. He typically says "FOCUS YOU FUCK" to his camera whereas you said 'Come on, focus for me". You're his quieter, more mellow counterpart.
I've been looking at this lock for high value security. Many should know that any lock will do the job it is intended to do, but finding the right lock can be challenging. I like that this lock will buy some time, and may cause a burglar to move on to an easier target. Nothing is totally secure. A high value lock is useless if the burglar has the time and another part of the structure is weaker such as a wall. A $100.00 lock will not secure on a $20.00 harsp with a large window around the corner.
+LockpickingLawyer To my knowledge, in the new series, the tensioning disc can be any, not necessarily the one in the back. You would have to either use a 3-part tool or switch the prong with wich you tensions while picking.
What disc detainer pick is this LPL. Amazing video! My only friendly advice on future videos is be sure to mention what the equipment is that you're using to pick the lock! Excellent work friend!
Almost exactly like Finnish Abloy Classic. Fine picking anyway. I have re-coded many Abloy locks and it is real fun to do. Almost all the door locks in Finland are Abloy branded.
Great video! So awesome to see you pick this after seeing you once say it was beyond your ability. How would you say this compares to the Squire SS80CS in pick resistance as well as sturdiness against alternative entry methods (destructive, drilling, etc.)?
LockPickingLawyer I'm a huge fan, and this is an amazing video. What Disk Detainer pick are you using here? It's not one that it looks like you've talked about?
Great vid. After watching this video and your earlier Top 10 biggest and baddest padlock compilation, I've decided (99%) on getting this lock. Per the Abus website, the 37/80's "RK: cylinder can be re-keyed to match an existing ABUS-Plus key". I'd love to have one keyed alike with my many Abus + core bike locks, but I can't find any info on the re-keying process. Would you please explain or make a video demonstrating how to re-key this lock? Thanks.
I think the 88/40 and 88/50 still have the older design. I had one of mine apart last night and it has 9 disks. The first and last one are zero bitted and I think either one of them could be used to tension the lock. I have 2 88/40s that I know are new stock because they were out of stock when I ordered them and had to wait a few weeks to get them.
Hey there bud, iv been watching your videos for along time now. I would like to know where you got the pick your using. I cant find any picks like that except for those cheap Chinese ones.
@LockPickingLawyer no videos on how to gut an 37/55 like the Sea & Snow model on CZcams yet. So why not be the first. There are no screw under the shackle to hold the bottom plate and no obvious way to open it for a core swap.
That's amazing that you can pick this lock with the Abus plus core but what about the 20/70 or the 20/80 can you pick them also or not? and if not then why not and regarding if you can pick them or not do you believe they are quality locks worth purchasing and do you believe they are pretty secure and worth their purchase prices or not? In a prior video you said that you couldn't pick the 20/70 but I thought this lock above in this video had the same Abus plus core and I see you picking it right here on this video fairly easily so I guess I'm just a little bit confused and wondering if you could pick those two discus models with the same core or a similar core or not?
Hi, awesome channel. I was wondering if I can ship an abus granite lock to you to open . Had shipped my lock to Abus team in Arizona hoping to rekey & get a set of keys. Turns out they could not open & shipping it back to me saying a locksmith can open it replace core & new keys, not same keys though. Any hope for my luck to open ? Thanks in advance
Remember, the video's are presented by a true EXPERT on the craft of lock picking! Not one "Crook" in a thousand is ever going to be able to duplicate his "Performance". If that on in a thousand "Crook" gets into my home, after sunset? It's going to be a very bad day; For him! Great demonstration! I enjoy all these videos!
I was about to get this one because in the “top 10 heaviest and baddest” video you made you said the core of this one was some of the toughest ever to be picked and that it was beyond your abilities. That didn’t last for long ...
Hi im a construction guy and just bought a box truck. Do you think that a padlock would be a good choice ? I was thinking about ABUS 83/80 i hope its going to fit. Or i have to buy some Heavy Duty Rolling Door Lock? . I would appreciate your professional opinion. Btw great videos!
@@metamorphicorder Be sure the PUCK orientation is DOWNWARD, and mounted such that little more than room to get the key in is available. Prevent attack of the core. Also, ABUS has a nice HASP that has an integrated disc type lock, so nothing to drop in the the snow and mud. AMERICAN has a puck hasp that you can bolt a hardened steel American A2010 Padlock to. This prevents dropping the heavy puck onto your foot.
@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 yep or you can stop by a machining shop at just before close with a six pack and have them braze or weld a leash on your locks and hasp assembly. Or pay them. Whichever. Ifn you cant do thay yourself
So it took you two and half minutes, and you are one of the best. I assume the lock ist picking resistant. As I use two locks on my bike with the X Plus-Core, it won't be stolen by picking regarding the 3 minutes rule.
LPL is the 2019 worlds best lock picker and has certification to prove it. Expert lock pickers and good to average lock pickers really have a hard time picking this lock. It's not good if they are at it for like 20 minutes, a lock has to be picked quick, a 5-minute time frame is really maximum! I have one of these expensive locks and am not pissed at all by this video. LPL is the worlds best, so don't fret.😋💨😀
Hi LPL. Although you have placed all the removed discs in order on your tray, how do you know which way up they go when putting them back? I mean each disc has two sides right? Not only that but each disc contains a rectangular slot which could be oriented in either of two positions. So, all in all, each disc could be replaced in any of four possible orientations. Am I correct here?
It would be interesting for CZcamsrs to include the video's publication date in its title, since CZcams hasn't shown it for a long time. Especially in videos like this where it is interesting to have a time reference. Thanks. Greetings.
CONGRATS!!!!! I remember I wanted to send you a 20/80 Diskus and you said you couldn't pick it. Now, about that, there was one Disc Lock you couldn't do.... any plans for the clean sweep from the Disc Lock Series?
ganzonomy The old Abus plus core in this lock is very different from the new variants that are used today (in LPLs Diskus 20/70 also). Nowadays there is the Plus core and the X-Plus core. The 37 Granit series as well as some of the high end bike locks use the X-Plus core and locks such as the Diskus 20, 89 series brass padlocks and some medium security bike locks use the normal Plus core. Both cores tension from a random disk wich requires a specialized tool. And even if you have got that tool they are very, very difficult to pick. The normal Plus core has 6 (Abus 20/80) or 7 (89/50) disks, the X-Plus has 9 if I‘m not mistaken. Also the X-Plus appeares to can‘t tension unless the disks are lined up correctly wich would make it near impossible to pick but I‘m not sure about if and how that would work.
I was just looking at this one on amazon to see about it. My concern is the rental truck's mechanism such that I can use this lock or one another Abus lock to secure the cargo.
I use one of these with a security chain to lock my Surly Bill trailer when I'm towing it, using an Abus Granit Extreme u-lock for my e-bike. Crazy solid lock. As an amusing bonus, the chain and lock tend to intimidate passersby while you lock up or unlock.
I use that lock to secure my generator house. Question? Have you picked any Medeco locks? I’m curious? I don’t see any attempts on your channel? I have three Medeco deadbolts at my house. Unfortunately I can’t find any local locksmiths willing to install the last two deadbolts for my house? I live in Connecticut. Could you recommend a locksmith in CT. that would be interested in installing Medeco deadbolts?
Great video! Please tell me the name of the pick that you are using, and possibly the link too if available. Yet I have only the chinese disc pick which I think isn't deep enough for many locks. Thanks!
Is there a way to get one of these off without these tools? Lever bar or similar? Angle grinding is an option but I dont have a grinder. I have an abus granit lock on my old motorcycle chain (also abus) that I lost the key to. The chain cost quite a bit and I'd like to salvage it if possible. It's not attached to anything, just a lock on a chain.
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Core looks very good resistance. I think Squire locks are better, shackle is more resistant with boron.
You could often use 1 ford key to open another ford with a bit of wiggling. When at uni my friends and I used my cortina key to "steal" a girls escort and hide it in our garage. We literally had the door open in about 2 seconds and had it started just as quick. The girl of course didn't see the funny side of our joke. She burst into tears thinking her car had been stolen. :-D
"you simply couldn’t produce enough" i can bet you can use one screw to open it like in case of this padlock czcams.com/video/Br0yR9eFAh8/video.html its good quality padlock it was much easier with cheap DeFort...
Bialy, the Abus in this video has a hardened steel anti-drill disc at the front of the core. No hand turned (or even electrically driven) screw stands a chance against it, as the anti-drill disc is harder than any screw.
Are the shoulders not hollow? The 70 certainly was and bolt cropped when the shoulders shattered. If they are hollow 14mm isn’t enough to stop bolt cutters.
Are you this good with safes too? Like the walk in kind, that for example, I don't know, maybe a bank would use? I may have a job opportunity for you my man!
CZcams is watching what your doing in the background i swear i looked for an abus lock on walmart .com and this exact lock caught my eye and now today youtube shows me your video about the lock i could be wrong about this but its definitely strange
3 questions =) 1. Is there a way to tell between the old and new model before buying? 2. What do you think about the build material for the internals? 3. Which pick are you using? =)
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I don't plan on buying locks, picking locks, assembling or disassembling any locks, but I continue to watch all your videos.
Jose, Just wait, I think most of us were the same, yet I've bought a few sets of picks now, its addictive :)
Jose Taco I said the same thing & now I have made several picks and tensioner wrenches & can now unlock my house by picking the lock almost as fast as I can with the key. Plus, lock picking isn’t a bad skill to master. You never know when you’re going to have a brain fart and lock yourself out of your house.
Same thing with me. Im actually happy i found his channel. Having locked myself out of several things this overlooked skill could have saved some money. As others have said i could see this being a really addictive hobby like playing a guitar almost.
Its the innate facination of watching a master of a craft at work.
Jose Taco me too
In a previous video, you said this core was beyond your abilities. I guess you've been working on it. Amazing. Well done
I leave mean comments it’s actually very easy given the right tools and proper teacher.
I leave nice* comments
I leave mean comments I don’t know if this is the same lock. This one is the 37/80 and the one he said that was the 37rk/80. Now I have no idea if they are the same locks or not, maybe someone could answer that question.
Dylius01 that washis name
@@jeseniahernandez8795 I think he's trying to communicate with us
Such a difference between this tool and the "one that Bosnian Bill and I made". Really brings it home how necessary that build was.
Your skill has increased dramatically, over the history of your channel. I reminder a time when you wouldn’t touch disc detainer locks.
Greetings from late 2019! And you should see him now ;-)
Scott Williams Greetings from the middle of 2020. Boy, do I have some stuff to tell you...
Ryan the Leg Lamp hey I’m from later 2020 it doesn’t get better
@@xXFluffyBunny29Xx 2021, he doin good
2023 here, he is now in prison for picking the nuclear vaults at the pentagon. He made it but was dissatisfied with his timings on picking the vaults open, and went for a second round and got caught.
I used a version of this lock to protect my shed... the police turned up before the people got through the lock because... people in my garden with a saw and drill attacking the lock caused too much noise and attention. Sadly they got away... but my shed was still secure, even though I had to replace the lock.
Nothing protects you from the professional locksmiths
They would have been better off sawing open the shed door lol
Is the 37/80kd drill proof
I guess they really wanted to get into your shed? Did it have anything that visually identified it as a target? Anything visibly valuable that could be seen through windows? Because otherwise surely a lock as beefy as this one would deter thieves unless they were really determined to steal something that they knew existed.
@@madewithreallemons263 That would have been a lot faster too.
@@dc8890 Perhaps the size & apparent quality of the lock itself made the would-be thieves believe his shed held something of value.
My heart stopped at 1:38
It's awesome going back and seeing the technique before the LPL/BB pick was made.
You mean... "The Pick That BosnianBill and I Made"
I had the same thought! And his hand looks so uncomfortable with this one, than the one he made'
That thing is huge!
Once again, I'm amazed at the apparent ease with which you open such a formidable lock. Bravo!
I'm guessing it took him a lot longer the _first_ time he opened it.
It is only because he knows exactly how the lock works.
I agree Robert, LPL is of the Master lock picker caliber I believe. Absolutely fantastic.
There has to be a way to prevent lock picking.
mrk vdr your intuitive reaction is what sells high security locks and drives the technology race. however, locks are made by people, therefore people can open them. "the race" is where insurance companies, lock experts, thieves, consumers etc. find meaning. the race will never end so long as there are competing parties. so, without starting to talk about communism, I will end my comment here.
Looks like this is a good lock for storage sites. Most people wont have these tools and spend the time in a secured site picking this.
It is, and the new versions are even better.
LockPickingLawyer Is there a way to easily tell what the newer version looks like?
Joe Abus changed the design multiple times, so I think you can‘t really tell from the outside. However the keys are different (pronounced taper towards the very end, more cuts since there are more disks, one with LED light) and the new variant comes with a code card that says something like Plus (tm) on it.
Yeah. Plus you probably still want a locksmith to have a chance of opening it in case you lost the key,
LockPickingLawyer which version would you recommend KA, KD, or RK?
took longer to pick with a good lock you are familiar with than a crappy lock you picked the first time. says a lot about the design.
How long did it take you to pick it the first time?
I'd love for him to revisit this lock now that he's improved so much and has better tools for locks like this.
Super informative, as usual, thank you! Just bought the current version of the Granit 37/55 as my first "nice" lock.
What a wonderful job picking this lock. I just got mine today and I may watch this video several times to get educated. Thank you 🙏
Very awesome that you picked this. I would say there are only a handful of people in the world who could stand a chance of picking this open. You are one of them.
The spacers are really important for the functioning of the lock. The spacers is notched to have them be stationary in the core. The aim of the spacers is to prevent a adjacent disc to rotate by friction (or goo in the lock gumming it up) when you turn the key, because that would make it impossible to open the lock. The spacers also are a bit springy, to avoid the core rattling, so the discs are under lateral spring tension.
I think that is pretty obvious, but it doesnt matters for picking
fuckin nerd
You're on the road to being a great locksmith Sebastian.
Wow, I've never seen a disk detainer gutted, nice to see the insides LPL! One of these days I gotta get some picking supplies and finally start!
I see the progress You've made over all these years (in all areas of tools, video, and Your skills). This is impressive.
A tool I’ve never seen. A word I’ve never heard you use: mushy. And a lock that wasn’t pathetically easy to open. Amazing video 👏
Great video, not really able to visualize what you were doing but I understand the concept. Thanks for posting.
Great video. Love the disassembly
It is like watching Nokia 5110 in action. 😄 I'm glad that you and Bill made something more appealing.
Thanks for showing us an excellent lock like this.
The 8th disc is a butterfly disc. Newer cores also have a butterfly at the first position. These discs prevent tensioning because they can be turned one step too far and then block the sidebar. To circumvent this, one has do tensioning on the second disc from the front or the back. But then there's still the problem that the disc is on the wrong position when used to tension. I would love to see you pick an newer version. The Abus 88/50 or 89/50 can be bought cheap on ebay and also have a removable core. It would be also great to hear something about building detainer picks at home. Keep going with these interesting disc detainer locks!!!
Christian Weller Butterfly?
Because of the butterfly shaped hole in the centre.
Are the models you listed there definitely the ones with the newest cores? With butterflies front and rear?
I possess one Abus 88/50 which definitely has butterfly discs in front and rear.
So I got my 88/50. Butterfly rear and front...but annoyingly, the 2nd disc in is a 6 (I'd normally call this a 0) and drives the lock, so you can tension on that if you want. But I have picked it using rear tension and setting the butterfly disc last. This is pretty difficult. I have also picked it tensioning from the front, on the 2nd disc. I have also picked it from the front butterfly. If the 2nd disc were not a driving disc (and chances are, it won't be) then I have an easy way to still pick the lock.
Thanks for the advice, this is a cool lock and was pretty cheap.
Great picking brother. Love the Abus Ganite lock body,thanks for sharing
As I get deeper and deeper into the archive I continue to be amazed at what disc-detainer tools looked like before LPL and Bosnian Bill made their own!
i'm super impressed with disc detainer locks, i think the mechanism is really elegant, and how they function together is very impressive, and quite an engineering feat to make sure all the discs line up just right with a key....
i also concour with the notion of if these parts are stamped by lower cost manufacturers, why don't they include false gates? my only reasonable conlustion is that the stamping process is too inacurate, and their dyes may not get to a finer depth, that any false gate, could simply act as a secondary gate, making it even easier to pick....
I really enjoy your videos. Have you seen aVe's channel? He takes apart various tools and gizmos and analyzes them the way do locks. He typically says "FOCUS YOU FUCK" to his camera whereas you said 'Come on, focus for me". You're his quieter, more mellow counterpart.
I've been looking at this lock for high value security. Many should know that any lock will do the job it is intended to do, but finding the right lock can be challenging. I like that this lock will buy some time, and may cause a burglar to move on to an easier target.
Nothing is totally secure. A high value lock is useless if the burglar has the time and another part of the structure is weaker such as a wall.
A $100.00 lock will not secure on a $20.00 harsp with a large window around the corner.
+LockpickingLawyer To my knowledge, in the new series, the tensioning disc can be any, not necessarily the one in the back. You would have to either use a 3-part tool or switch the prong with wich you tensions while picking.
I use Abus Plus core locks on both my motorbikes, and its encouraging to see how tricky they are to pick!
Another great vid. Thanks for posting these.
What disc detainer pick is this LPL. Amazing video! My only friendly advice on future videos is be sure to mention what the equipment is that you're using to pick the lock!
Excellent work friend!
Almost exactly like Finnish Abloy Classic. Fine picking anyway. I have re-coded many Abloy locks and it is real fun to do. Almost all the door locks in Finland are Abloy branded.
Great video! So awesome to see you pick this after seeing you once say it was beyond your ability.
How would you say this compares to the Squire SS80CS in pick resistance as well as sturdiness against alternative entry methods (destructive, drilling, etc.)?
Well LPL, when you started picking disc detainers, you sure didn't cut any corners! VERY nice job!
Link for the pick? Searched but cant find it?
LockPickingLawyer I'm a huge fan, and this is an amazing video. What Disk Detainer pick are you using here? It's not one that it looks like you've talked about?
I'd watch you do a "first time pick" on one of these locks.
Damn, that tool you used looked interesting albeit a little crude. If only bosnianbill and you were to makea more refined version...
LPL - This is tricky to pick.
Me - I am buying that lock!
I like to listen to your videos while I try to sleep
Bruh why is this lock so complicated to take apart
“Made in germany”
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German here: i approve this comment
@@Gulliolm Hitler.
@@eriklarson9137 what about him?
@@Gulliolm He would have approved this comment also.
@@Gulliolm hello fellow German
Great job as usual. This padlock looks like my Artago 68, a spanish high quality padlock.
Insurance rates everywhere went up when this video was released lol.
The LPL has incredible dexterity and sensitivity, it's mesmerizing.😳
Hooray for the metric system.
That's a nice lock. I've decided not to judge locks on how LPL and some others pick them with ease. They are just real good at it from mucho practice.
No lock is 100% secure, they just delay time or are too hard to even care about
You should have a go at the abus granit 8008 disk lock. Really curious to see it since they say it’s one of the most secure disk locks out there.
One of the best paddocks without spending crazy money They can be got used on Ebay too. Along with Abloy my favourite padlock
Nice one LPL! But did that bad lock bite your finger??? :-)
And this was before the new disc detainer pick...
Not bad LPL I thought that thing was as pick proof as an Abloy Protec I'm impressed
you are ACE ! Gratz !!!
Great vid. After watching this video and your earlier Top 10 biggest and baddest padlock compilation, I've decided (99%) on getting this lock. Per the Abus website, the 37/80's "RK: cylinder can be re-keyed to match an existing ABUS-Plus key". I'd love to have one keyed alike with my many Abus + core bike locks, but I can't find any info on the re-keying process. Would you please explain or make a video demonstrating how to re-key this lock? Thanks.
Holly smoke! If this guy cannot get in your house, he will probably find a reason to sue you for locking your own house.
This is just amazing....
Thanks for the video!!
Hi LPL, Did you design/make the picking tool used in this video or is it a commercial item? Thanks for sharing!
Worlds Best Security 🔓
LPL : hold my disc detainer
I think the 88/40 and 88/50 still have the older design. I had one of mine apart last night and it has 9 disks. The first and last one are zero bitted and I think either one of them could be used to tension the lock. I have 2 88/40s that I know are new stock because they were out of stock when I ordered them and had to wait a few weeks to get them.
Spiffing, Absolutely Spiffing!!!
Hey there bud, iv been watching your videos for along time now. I would like to know where you got the pick your using. I cant find any picks like that except for those cheap Chinese ones.
Brilliant!
@LockPickingLawyer no videos on how to gut an 37/55 like the Sea & Snow model on CZcams yet. So why not be the first. There are no screw under the shackle to hold the bottom plate and no obvious way to open it for a core swap.
This is the video that made me buy this lock.
The new ones cant be disassembled. The pin is replaced with 2 allen screws that get a hardened steel ball bearing pressed into them after assembly.
That's amazing that you can pick this lock with the Abus plus core but what about the 20/70 or the 20/80 can you pick them also or not? and if not then why not and regarding if you can pick them or not do you believe they are quality locks worth purchasing and do you believe they are pretty secure and worth their purchase prices or not? In a prior video you said that you couldn't pick the 20/70 but I thought this lock above in this video had the same Abus plus core and I see you picking it right here on this video fairly easily so I guess I'm just a little bit confused and wondering if you could pick those two discus models with the same core or a similar core or not?
Very well done LPL, I thought that Abus DD locks had more false gates all around the disks?
Hobby Picker the newer Models have
You are a pro!
Hi, awesome channel. I was wondering if I can ship an abus granite lock to you to open . Had shipped my lock to Abus team in Arizona hoping to rekey & get a set of keys. Turns out they could not open & shipping it back to me saying a locksmith can open it replace core & new keys, not same keys though. Any hope for my luck to open ? Thanks in advance
I started to think I was at the dentist when he began picking the lock!
Just bought this. It weighs over a kilo! Sadly it won't fit in the lock box on the shipping container I wanted to lock with it!!
You make it look easy.
Remember, the video's are presented by a true EXPERT on the craft of lock picking!
Not one "Crook" in a thousand is ever going to be able to duplicate his "Performance".
If that on in a thousand "Crook" gets into my home, after sunset?
It's going to be a very bad day; For him!
Great demonstration! I enjoy all these videos!
I was about to get this one because in the “top 10 heaviest and baddest” video you made you said the core of this one was some of the toughest ever to be picked and that it was beyond your abilities. That didn’t last for long ...
newer models changed up the design.
Ghorda9 Meaning, for the better or the worse?
Hi im a construction guy and just bought a box truck. Do you think that a padlock would be a good choice ? I was thinking about ABUS 83/80 i hope its going to fit. Or i have to buy some
Heavy Duty Rolling Door Lock? . I would appreciate your professional opinion. Btw great videos!
For the money you would spend a high quality puck lock, if it would fit the hasps or latches on your truck might be a good idea.
@@metamorphicorder Be sure the PUCK orientation is DOWNWARD, and mounted such that little more than room to get the key in is available. Prevent attack of the core. Also, ABUS has a nice HASP that has an integrated disc type lock, so nothing to drop in the the snow and mud. AMERICAN has a puck hasp that you can bolt a hardened steel American A2010 Padlock to. This prevents dropping the heavy puck onto your foot.
@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 yep or you can stop by a machining shop at just before close with a six pack and have them braze or weld a leash on your locks and hasp assembly. Or pay them. Whichever. Ifn you cant do thay yourself
Look up bossnianbill high security locks. He goes through the good ones.
are the locks as easy for you to put back together as they are for you to take apart? (Im assuming that u re-assemble them)
Wouldn't adding false gates on a worse quality metal result in them eventually becoming true gates with normal use wear?
So it took you two and half minutes, and you are one of the best. I assume the lock ist picking resistant. As I use two locks on my bike with the X Plus-Core, it won't be stolen by picking regarding the 3 minutes rule.
LPL is the 2019 worlds best lock picker and has certification to prove it. Expert lock pickers and good to average lock pickers really have a hard time picking this lock. It's not good if they are at it for like 20 minutes, a lock has to be picked quick, a 5-minute time frame is really maximum! I have one of these expensive locks and am not pissed at all by this video. LPL is the worlds best, so don't fret.😋💨😀
i got abus steelochain with plus core 🙏🙏
Hi LPL. Although you have placed all the removed discs in order on your tray, how do you know which way up they go when putting them back? I mean each disc has two sides right? Not only that but each disc contains a rectangular slot which could be oriented in either of two positions. So, all in all, each disc could be replaced in any of four possible orientations. Am I correct here?
It would be interesting for CZcamsrs to include the video's publication date in its title, since CZcams hasn't shown it for a long time. Especially in videos like this where it is interesting to have a time reference. Thanks. Greetings.
A gem from the days before The Pick That BosnianBill And I Made, first of its name
CONGRATS!!!!! I remember I wanted to send you a 20/80 Diskus and you said you couldn't pick it. Now, about that, there was one Disc Lock you couldn't do.... any plans for the clean sweep from the Disc Lock Series?
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The old Abus plus core in this lock is very different from the new variants that are used today (in LPLs Diskus 20/70 also).
Nowadays there is the Plus core and the X-Plus core.
The 37 Granit series as well as some of the high end bike locks use the X-Plus core and locks such as the Diskus 20, 89 series brass padlocks and some medium security bike locks use the normal Plus core.
Both cores tension from a random disk wich requires a specialized tool. And even if you have got that tool they are very, very difficult to pick. The normal Plus core has 6 (Abus 20/80) or 7 (89/50) disks, the X-Plus has 9 if I‘m not mistaken.
Also the X-Plus appeares to can‘t tension unless the disks are lined up correctly wich would make it near impossible to pick but I‘m not sure about if and how that would work.
@@BL-yj2wp the granit has a seven disc plus, the 20 diskus has a 6 disc plus. I have both, and love them.
I was just looking at this one on amazon to see about it. My concern is the rental truck's mechanism such that I can use this lock or one another Abus lock to secure the cargo.
would it make sense to lubricate internals enough to help muting the movement of each plate when lock is being picked?
I use one of these with a security chain to lock my Surly Bill trailer when I'm towing it, using an Abus Granit Extreme u-lock for my e-bike. Crazy solid lock. As an amusing bonus, the chain and lock tend to intimidate passersby while you lock up or unlock.
I use that lock to secure my generator house.
Question? Have you picked any Medeco locks? I’m curious? I don’t see any attempts on your channel? I have three Medeco deadbolts at my house. Unfortunately I can’t find any local locksmiths willing to install the last two deadbolts for my house? I live in Connecticut. Could you recommend a locksmith in CT. that would be interested in installing Medeco deadbolts?
Wow, that was impressive as usual. As a picker I know feel totally inadequate 😂😂😂👍
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Great video!
Please tell me the name of the pick that you are using, and possibly the link too if available. Yet I have only the chinese disc pick which I think isn't deep enough for many locks. Thanks!
It’s made by Jaakko Fagerlund in Finland.
Amazing lock
Is there a way to get one of these off without these tools? Lever bar or similar? Angle grinding is an option but I dont have a grinder. I have an abus granit lock on my old motorcycle chain (also abus) that I lost the key to. The chain cost quite a bit and I'd like to salvage it if possible. It's not attached to anything, just a lock on a chain.
Core looks very good resistance. I think Squire locks are better, shackle is more resistant with boron.
2.5 minutes in LPL time is like 10 years for a human !
Reminds me of the old lock systems Ford (in europe) has used. They could be opened with a screwdriver and brute force though
You could often use 1 ford key to open another ford with a bit of wiggling. When at uni my friends and I used my cortina key to "steal" a girls escort and hide it in our garage. We literally had the door open in about 2 seconds and had it started just as quick.
The girl of course didn't see the funny side of our joke. She burst into tears thinking her car had been stolen. :-D
No chance on this one, you simply couldn’t produce enough for by your won to open it!
"you simply couldn’t produce enough" i can bet you can use one screw to open it like in case of this padlock czcams.com/video/Br0yR9eFAh8/video.html its good quality padlock it was much easier with cheap DeFort...
Biały
I don’t think it would work... this locks are incredible robust!
Bialy, the Abus in this video has a hardened steel anti-drill disc at the front of the core. No hand turned (or even electrically driven) screw stands a chance against it, as the anti-drill disc is harder than any screw.
Hey LPL I got an abloy finland 341 with a U shaped key way. You ever picked one?
Are the shoulders not hollow? The 70 certainly was and bolt cropped when the shoulders shattered. If they are hollow 14mm isn’t enough to stop bolt cutters.
Are you this good with safes too? Like the walk in kind, that for example, I don't know, maybe a bank would use? I may have a job opportunity for you my man!
CZcams is watching what your doing in the background i swear i looked for an abus lock on walmart .com and this exact lock caught my eye and now today youtube shows me your video about the lock i could be wrong about this but its definitely strange
How does this compare to the Abloy? Maybe you can do a video comparing them since it seems like they are the two best.
Quality padlock, but if I use one on my motorcycle the thieves will just cut the chain. shorly the padlock is only as good as the chain. ?
Just curious if most of these are just as easy to put back together as they are to take apart? Points to ponder from a newbie.
3 questions =)
1. Is there a way to tell between the old and new model before buying?
2. What do you think about the build material for the internals?
3. Which pick are you using?
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