Skydiving - Double parachute Malfunction
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- čas přidán 21. 04. 2021
- 1 Aug 20. My first high speed malfunction after 366 jumps and my reserved fired through my main risers. Had a bit of a hard landing and only sustained non life threatening injuries.
After a fun tracking jump with my coach, I broke away at 5,000 feet and commenced my deployment. My pilot chute did not deploy my main within the normal delay. I did not look back immediately to see what was happening to my pilot chute. I panicked. I commenced my EP as trained in my home country. This meant that I placed a hand on each handle. I pulled my cutaway first with my right hand, and then pulled my reserve handle very quickly, with my left hand. There was approximately half a second delay between the two pulls. My container was a Talon FS with a single RSL attached. Reflecting back to my packing, I think I folded my pilot chute differently due to a lack of concentration and haste. This may have resulted in the pilot chute delaying in its inflation and subsequent deployment. The lesson for me here is don't panic, delay the reserve pull after the cutaway. Maybe this might have been the cause of the reserve firing through the main riser or maybe not.
I was not prepared for the subsequent malfunction with the two entangled canopies. I wish I had that telescopic hook knife! Rightly or wrongly, my focus was (a) to keep both canopies stable and inflated and (b) land somewhere safe. I thought about deploying my reserve brakes but I chose not to because I feared it may have caused further instability and collapsed or wrapped the canopies. I did not have any control in direction and was at the mercy of the wind. I was lucky to clear a cemetery full of hard marble tombs and a set of power lines (about 2 meters). I pull hard on my right riser with the intent to miss the house and land in the trees. Unfortunately, it was not enough and I set up for a PLR in the farm house's driveway. As I descended at what seemed at a 1:1 ratio, I was heading straight towards the back of a car and had to abort my PLR. I put one foot out to deflect off the car, then ricocheted off the car and body slammed on the ground on my back. I did not loose consciousness but I was winded for about 3 minutes. In the end my only injury was an ankle injury.
That he both literally and figuratively almost ended up in a cemetery is rather poetic.
I don't think either way is figuratively.
Nightmare scenario for every skydiver. Glad you survived and the injuries weren't worse! Please file an incident report with USPA (even if outside the US) - they study how these types of failures can be prevented in the future, perhaps through equipment changes or training changes.
Or put it on CZcams and I can actually watch the video. Thank you for sharing this hellacious mal!
@Apostolos Ginnakidis Was?
Lesson learned not to play with gravity lol
@@Zc4sh gravity Ahahahahahahabahahahahahahahahahahah STOP parroting institutional nonsensical schooling propaganda, sapere aude!
@@nexusdrexus9361 ? Wtf dude
Glad you’re okay mate. My heart was in my throat the entire time.
That may have been the scariest malfunction I've seen on video... Glad you're alive dude!
Agreed, there's another one actually that's almost or as. Watching the reserve buffet and want to turn and praying it doesn't go past 100 degrees is mind numbingly painful!
Man. You gotta watch the american that had a streamer till the last second and it inflates but not quite fast enough. He slams the taxi way and his friends land and run to him as fast as possible.
The amazing part is he got up. Completely unscathed.
Man, when I saw the “Hard landing” caption in the beginning of the video, I didn’t expect this rollercoaster of emotions :) You’re a member of a very exclusive club buddy, glad you’ve made it
I’m a very luck man!
New nickname, Bounce!
@@mauriziodilorenzo1269, years ago, I had a friend who had a horseshoe malfunction on his main because he pulled the bridle instead of the pilot chute. When he cut away to deploy his reserve, it got tangled in the main. He bounced off a willow tree and walked away from it. Glad you're okay.
@@mauriziodilorenzo1269 My friend Simone went from skydiving to base jumping and died few years back. One of best guys i ever met in my life! I am glad you are fine, hope you kept jumping.
@@mauriziodilorenzo1269 Glad you´re ok.
Dude that is one of the worst malfunction you could have in skydiving, I’m really glade you made it
Cheers. It was my first malfunction after 366 jumps.
That’s a big one to have after 366 jumps 🙂
Poster boy for two Reserves... Your guardian angel was working overtime... Thanks for posting.
Just finished my first tandem jump this weekend and I'm super interested in taking this up as a hobby. Came across your video and while I am not experienced enough to fully understand everything just yet, it's obvious to see the problems unfold (or fold, pun intended, lol). Bro my adrenaline peeked more watching your reserve tangle than it did my first jump! Glad you are still with us and great jump working the problem 👍🏻
i'd have given him my house if he landed on that Trampoline.
I'd have given him that house too.
done a good job of missing the graveyard
I thought I was going to land in there!!
What was the reason for the malfunction? Why didn’t the main risers release cleanly after cutaway? (I can see them entangled with slider..)
@@mauriziodilorenzo1269 did you report some trauma?
@@mauriziodilorenzo1269 I think you missed the pun here. You didn't die, and happened to miss a literal graveyard. My ass puckered when it wrapped full up
yeah.. between the cemetery and a backyard trampoline, I think the trampoline was a good call. Too bad you didn't make it all the way to it.
Wow. Glad you're okay. Good job maintaining the little control you had and avoiding making things worse - I kept thinking of what I would've done differently or better after the entanglement and I can't think of anything 😬. My heart sank when you reserve collapsed a bit.
Goodness. Glad your still with us. You kept your cool and kept working.
You are incredibly lucky. Glad you are alive. Those are the malfunctions they make me rethink this lifestyle.
Very glad to hear you walked away with minor injuries. That went from a not so bad malfunction to a very bad situation! Well done doing your best to stay calm and work with what you had. Reading the descriptiona and studying the video fro a second, I specultate you beat the RSL to the reserve by a long shot, especially if the PC wasn't possibly fully inflated or the main deployment sequence was still mid deployment, which might have lead to something on the reserve going through the main riser (as you can see in one frame before you get to line stretch on your reserve). Thanks for your analysis, hope another opinion helps, and stay safe up there!
Thanks for your feedback
I am glad you made it. Thanks for sharing this with us!
Glad you made it out okay brother! Thank God and God bless you sir!
Wow…that’s a rough day…stayed calm, never stopped working the problem, never quit flying. Way to go 🤙🏻
Bro you should send this vid to teem. This is definitely a Friday freak out moment. I think alot more people should see this though there's really nothing that you could of done to fix this. Prime example of murphy's law.
I agree this is one of the scariest mals I’ve seen, including all Teem videos. That being said, I know at least of one instance when the video owner wasn’t happy with how Teem handled their part of the deal when his video was submitted. I don’t know who’s right or wrong, just saying there are considerations you have to think about before just sending it to their channel.
@@Dizzyswoops totally agree, I got knocked out in free fall a couple years ago and I got my perspective as well as the meat missile that did it, but because of this very reason you mention, I never sent it in. But this mal is a perfect example of how no matter your level of training or what you do, crazy shit that is completely out of your control can still go extremely wrong with nothing you can really do. Murphy's law, if it can happen, it will. Amazing/terrifying video but I'm glad this jumper is able to tell the tale! Blue skies my friends and safe jumping to all!!
I also agree, I have never seen anything like this
Yeah I'm sure that's what he's worried about. "Better get this to the Team!" Lol.
@@canatolakhoemini6728 whuffo, you jump out of them airplanes?!
man...that was a hell of one right there bud. Super happy it worked out for you!
With only 3 tandems under my belt and doing a full class in a few months this makes me want to shit bricks. I’m glad you’re okay. I won’t act like I know anything but from what i can see and the fact you’re alive, you did a good job. These kind of videos help me and others understand what could happen and how to handle it.
Don't panic and remember your emergency procedures. I hope you never have to use them.
@@bobmarlowe3390 Hey mate I have my first skydive with an instructor next week in Sydney and I am absolutely shitting myself. I can’t stop thinking about what happens if the parachutes fail. I am seriously considering cancelling my appointment. Any advice?
@@Getsumsimm, don't cancel it! Just pay attention to your instructor, know your emergency procedures, don't lose your head, and you'll do fine and enjoy the hell out of it.
@@bobmarlowe3390 I’m not jumping alone I’m going to be attached to the instructors harness. Do you mind telling me how many jumps you’ve had and how many parachute malfunctions? Just watching this video has my heart beating through my chest I seriously think I’ll pass out on the plane. This is scarier than shark attacks for me.
@@Getsumsimm, I did 4 tandems, which is what you'll be doing, plus 3 AFF jumps. I had to give it up due to lack of funds and our local DZ closing. I had no malfunctions. The worst problem I ever had was some minor line twist on a couple of my AFF jumps, but that was easily corrected because I paid attention to my instructor. Malfunctions can happen, but they're rare. I know several people who probably have a few thousand jumps between them with no malfunctions.
That went from unnerving to terrifying as the reserve started folding up.
OMG. Dude, that was the hardest thing I've ever watched in a skydive video. Glad you're okay!
Me too. That was too crazy! Have you practiced skydiving after that?
Thanks for sharing your exploits I'm glad you're ok.
Scary. I'm glad you made it man.
Glad he's alive to tell the tale
I'm sure it was one of the strongest emotions yet I envy you, wonderful sport.👏
Fken shit mate! That sucks. Glad you're still alive.
Very scary Mal, so glad you're okay and can share this. I was reading the comments below about the double sided RSL, not something I have seen before. Blue Skies though, hopefully you'll be back, it couldn't get much worse than that one!
No double RSL. I never knew those existed.
Me either
Nice work!! Your analysis is fantastic. I've never seen a mal like that before. Everybody's worst nightmare for sure not knowing if any new input would make it better or worse and knowing there is nothing you can do to resolve the issue without that telescopic hook knife. Would have been too ironic had you gone in, landing in the cemetery. Talk about some dark humour. Glad you walked (hobbled?) away.
Glad your ok !Amazing !
Glad you got through this!
I hope this is the first and the last time when you post something like this... God bless you!
Me too! Thanks!
omg, what a thrill. glad that you are okay. and still kept the handles ;-)
Kept your handles like a boss!
I did! It was mainly due to my terror, rather than conscience though. haha
Good to see that he didn't finally end up in the graveyard (figuratively and literally speaking).
Those gravestones in the cemetery to the right of the approach looked VERY HARD INDEED!
Well... nice to see that you're fine, in the end. AND to see that even the most nightmarish scenarios seem to always let you a chance of surviving haha
Let's take it that way.
THAT was a bad one! At least it held him upright + or -. I jumped a Delta wing back in the late 60s. Opening shock would crack your neck. I suffer from it today but this guy made that look like child's play.
Wow! Wow I'm shaking like a leaf! Holy shit! Bro .... Glad you're still here. I couldn't imagine the intensity of every passing second seeming like an hour just waiting for the reserve to give out and collapse or spin! I had a pilot chute in tow on jump 210 and just pulling the reserve into the pilot chute in tow seemed like a 5 minute deal until it cleared. Again, wow.
Cheers. Me too!
Dude, that is nightmare scenario… great job not panicking. Good thing you didn’t land in the nearby cemetery.
Amazing. Amazing. Amazing.
Cool. Calm. Collective. In a very shitty situation.
Over 1k jumps and my brain blanked out seeing that mal.
Thank you for sharing. Glad you are alive and not hurt too badly. Handled a very bad situation very good.
Hey mate I have my first skydive with an instructor next week in Sydney and I am absolutely shitting myself. I can’t stop thinking about what happens if the parachutes fail. I am seriously considering cancelling my appointment. Any advice?
@@Getsumsimm get off of CZcams. Stop watching skydiving videos.
Listen to your instructors, ask questions as many times as you need if things are not clear.
Breathe and have fun. It will be an amazing experience you’ll always look back to.
Don’t look for answers online. Talk to your instructors, they are so eager and excited to help you.
omfg, nightmare! Congrats on surviving that.
So glad you made it thru that, If I'd been underneath that looking up I honestly wouldn't have known what else to do, when the slider on the reserve pulled all the way up and the nose closed up I honestly thought I was watching a fatality in progress. Still can't quite work out how the main got hung up, maybe the rsl was involved? If it's any consolation, I had a pilot chute in tow on an old free fall round with a chest mounted reserve and, beyond looking round and dipping a shoulder to try and clear it, I absolutely did not hesitate getting the reserve out. I was a student with 50 jumps at the time, and the student drill on rounds is completely different - no cutaway! Having come to a dead stop from terminal on deployment of the tiny lifesaving but leg breaking I24, I watched as my main bag broke free and tumbled away underneath me and then very lazily began to inflate despite my efforts to try and pull it in. I assumed I'd be OK, round on round. What could go wrong? The main started spinning counterclockwise wise and wrapping itself around the reserve like it was on a mission, it had a mind of its own, it made one full turn around and started collapsing the reserve before I managed to separate them, after which the main continued spinning for the next two minutes. I landed in a heap with a massive knot of main risers above me and a shakey wobbling reserve bouncing off the main in front of me. No injuries other than some lurid bruises! So, nothing compared to what you went thru, I saw the rate of decent toward the end and thought this is probably going to end badly, and next to a cemetery, appeals to my grave humour😂 But seriously, main/reserve entanglement square on square is not good, so glad you made it. Blue skies😊
Cool as ice. Still kept his handles. Great job man! Glad your ok!
Yeah thanks
Are you serious?
Keeping the handles worth 50 bucks max, might take your life because it distracts from the really important actions. 🤓
When I saw the handles I was grinning. Yikes, that could have been so much worse. What a ride.
"In the end my only injury was an ankle injury." happy to read that , thx 4 sharing )
Holy shit!!! at 1:50 I started screaming. You are a lucky man!
Yes. I sure am! Thanks.
WOW!!!!
Thanks for the feedback........
This could have gone so much worse... my god. Glad you are okay. Really scary stuff 😫
I know man! I was very lucky!!
You dont realize how lucky you are. Blue skies my friend
And he still hung on to those handles.🎉👏🙌🥳
💪
'Kin lucky !!! Scary when the reserve starts collapsing !!!
Graveyard or trampoline? You went for the trampoline of course 😆! Glad you’re alive to tell the tale! Blue skies
😁
Boss moves 🙌🏽✨
Reason I believe myself and not using RSL or Skyhook. Glad you are alive brother. Blue Skies.
Such a hard decision to make! I've been thankful I've not needed one, but I am a big fan of the skyhook!
Jeeeeesus Christ I’ve never ever seen anything like this! Wow. Glad your ok.
Thanks.
Absolutely terrifying. Out of sequence emergency procedures can happen quite easily in the heat of the moment if you have your hands on both handles. Glad you’re okay!
That's exactly why my drop zone teaches you to do each step with both hands.
@@jaffacalling53 yeah, I think its the safer way AS LONG as you have an rsl/mard and an aad
what is the cause of that malfunction?.. i didnt get it.
@@nacerwahid6009 pulling your reserve handle before or at the same time as your cutaway handle
@@ov4457 ah ok.think you
Well, - Thank God - there is a Miracle !!!
At least you didn't have to go look for your main. Glad you alright chief.
I love the way you kept hold of the reserve handle 🤣 that would’ve been the last thing I was keeping
😂 but I dropped my cut-way. As luck would have it another skydive found it in a field a few weeks later.
Graças a Deus que foi só um susto, cara. Fico feliz que esteja bem. 👊🏽🇧🇷
Me too! 🙏
Similar malfunction years ago due to the double RSL on a Racer container and fotunately same happy ending
Lol Racer! Never saw the point.
Scariest malfunction video I've seen. Glad you got away with that one my friend
Me too!
Cutaway and ensure separation. I was just stuffing a Sabre 150 into a container that was too small. I was deploying and facing delays that I didn't understand at first. I would get steep and reach back to help the deployment go. I thought, maybe, it was pin lock. I firmly believe the d-bag that I forced into the tray was being held in by the friction. I wonder if that's the problem you were having. otherwise, it could be a collapsed pilot chute; or old pilot chute with too much porosity and too tight of a closing loop. a good pilot chute can pull just about anything.
Glad you're ok ! A total followed by a main-reserve entanglement is terrifying. After reading the other comments about the reserve being pulled too soon after the cutaway, I stepped through the video and that looks to be the case. Looking at the time on the video, you cutaway at 1:11 and pulled the reserve at 1:11 (i.e. less than a second) - below are links to the screen grabs of cutaway and reserve. I was originally taught the 2-hand cutaway procedure, but then switched to the 1-hand cutaway... there are pro's and cons for both. An advantage of the 1-hand cutaway is that you have one hand ready on the reserve handle before cutting away. This reduces the risk of struggling to find the reserve handle after you've cut away i.e. back into freefall with the added risk that the reserve handle could move to a different position. A disadvantage of the 1-hand cutaway is the risk that you pull the reserve out of sequence or too soon after cut away... the later is shown to happen in your video. There's also different methods to handle a total - either go straight for the reserve, or cutaway then pull the reserve (as you did). An advantage cutting away then pulling the reserve (like you did) is that it keeps your EP the same, so in a high stress situation where you have to act quickly, you don't have to think about which procedure to perform. The disadvantage is that when the reserve comes out of the container, theres a risk the main could come out. postimg.cc/CZP7RX54. postimg.cc/4ntvGm6P
Thanks for your detailed analysis. I will be definitely delaying my reserve pull from my cut-away.
@@mauriziodilorenzo1269 Thanks for sharing the video, it helps others learn and has made me think about how I would handle the same situation. I've had 2 mals (out of 1,060), one was a line over when I was a student and another was a brake fire which in hindsight I should have been able to clear had I known at the time. But a total is more stressful and requires a quick response.
I am convinced that the two hands EP with a clean LOOK, REACH, PULL, LOOK, REACH, PULL sequence for both hands on cutaway first and both hands on reserve second would have avoided this situation.
I learnt this routine at Lake Elsinore at Jim Wallace’s skydiving school and it‘s never let me down.
Repeat this actually grabbing your handles before every jump so your routine is bulletproof.
Saves lives!
I have seen EPs gone wrong because people didn’t look at their handles, grabbing suits fabric that would have died without their Cypresses!
Train in the airplane on your way up every single time!
Stay safe! 🍀👍
And always pull cutaway it might save your life if the main decides for what reason ever to deploy after a total!
You never want to have two out!
They need to teach civilians how to do a parachute landing fall like the Army does. Glad you're alive.
they do, its hardly a secret
landing 30 meters from the cemetery ... you're a lucky guy 👍😃
My butt clenched so hard at the end mate god damn you are lucky
Don’t I know it!
And landed right by the cemetery, glad it all came out ok. We do have a Higher Power watching over us. Thank God for that!
"Bob you wouldn't believe it, a guy parachuted in my back yard!"
-sure thing John, sure thing.
Are you ok?? What happen ??? Very scary the reserve close for moments
Bless U ❤
you almost landed in the cemetary next door, dammm!
Man, thank goodness you're ok.
Thanks!
@@mauriziodilorenzo1269 Of course, sir!
I've recently become passionate about skydiving and watch as many videos as I can on the subject as I want to learn as much as I can.
So thank you for posting this video about your experience. You were in a vulnerable position and it's truly generous of you to share it with us!
Damn that last branch helped alot lol,so fcked to have both parachutes so tangled around for landing nice to see It didnt ended 2 bad at the end
vi mal o eso que se ve al final, al costado de donde caiste es un cementerio? ahi con las lapidas y cosas de marmol no era para un aterrizaje forzoso, alguien de arriba te dio un empujon para que no caigas ahi. Saludos y espero que estes bien.
After getting into many a debate regarding EPs and parachute systems, people mostly baulk at my decision to forego any type of MARD device. This video is a perfect example of why I removed my RSL all those many years ago after jump number 10........ Well done, you were very lucky, very lucky. Blue skies!
Me too. Fuck RSL and skyhook.
Glad you're ok. This is one of the worse situations. Not only is this scary, but at time 2:49 that looks like you were about to land in a cemetery. Even worse!! lol
Any thoughts on using a hook knife while the main was still in reach ?
( if you have one )
So many things done wrong! This person is definitely lucky to be alive.
1. Pulling while angle flying/tracking is never a good idea.
2. They could have attempted to grab the main canopy’s risers after the reserve deployed to undo the knot or cut it off entirely while there was still altitude. They literally sat there and waited for the problem to get worse.
3, as they realized the reserve canopy was collapsing, they still didn’t even bother to pop the toggles to have the canopy fully inflate.
It’s amazing that they’re still alive
Hindsight is a beautiful thing. And yes, I am lucky.
Have you recognized he has landed just NEXT to the cementery?
Double luck?
Love this
Jeeeezuz! That would’ve been scarey AF!!
It sure was!!
Is it in the Loire Valley ?
Thats a real sick maker..
Watching this I was like. OK, this sucks, but good if it stays this way. And then the chutes got mangled anymore. I was like oh man that sucks. And you couldnt even steer for that water. Literally nothing you couldve done - but you did the right thing, stay calm and do what you can.
Still got the reserve handle in your left hand. I'd of chucked it and started praying 😂
Friday freakout material!
@1:12 in one exact frame the reserve pulled him so hard that the camera image became yellow tinted for a split second
At least he kept the handles!
"Handles?" You meant "ripcords," didn't you...
@@701CPD we call them handles in the skydiving world.. I guess the reserve would be a ripcord, but the other one is a cutaway handle.. so you could say handles for both of them.
@@thomasaltruda Well, Tom, when I was skydiving from the early 1970s to the early 1980s, we called them ripcords, whether they were on mains or reserves. "Handle" may have occasionally been used as a slang reference to a ripcord ("I couldn't find that damn left-side handle on that [surplus] rig!"), the way "rag" was sometimes used as a reference to one's main ("Damn rag had a line-over!"). I never heard "handle" used as a reference to a ripcord, though, in ten years of jumping, certainly not regularly.
I was praying your silk would hit those trees cushioning your fall. Glad you made it anyway.
So was I! Haha
Ugly one! Glad you made it!
Did you break anything?
Wow how lucky for you that you survived what a horrible feeling to be in it looked like the chute slowed you up enough although you couldn’t steer or flare , I wonder do you still skydive today ? Good luck for the future I hope you have no more scares like this one .😊
I haven’t jumps since this one. I do hope to jump again one day.
Got me thinking Again... About 2 Reserves... 'Nuff said!!!...
Looks like he landed right next to a cemetery! Scary and I'm glad you survived and didn't end up in there
Me too!
Thank God for 3 open cells and an apple tree - We take what we can get sometimes 😂
Impressive
What a nightmare...Good to know you are ok! One question: It was possible to cut-away the main parachute even when the reserve was already opened?
Good vibes from Rio - Brazil
I needed a vey long knife. :)
That was a cut away, but the reserve popped through the risers of the main.
Thought you bought the big one.
Never had one man wanted to hit a tree so much!
That looked like a living nightmare.
It was in deed.
I don't skydive so I am not sure what's happening. It seems that two parachutes are open at the same time ?