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  • Home & Away credits with Thames News trail
    Thames Television Presentation endcap
    This Is Your Life trail
    The Time The Place slide
    Adverts for:
    Batchelors Micro Chef
    Kellogg's Corn Flakes
    Des O'Connor Tonight trail
    Thames News with Andrew Gardner, Liz Pike & Graham Miller
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Komentáře • 53

  • @jcampton1
    @jcampton1 Před 2 lety +43

    *“And we'll be back again tomorrow because, despite our own television drama, it's business as usual”* Well said Andrew Gardner representing all at Thames News who held their heads high right through til the very end.

    • @grahampearson5670
      @grahampearson5670 Před 2 lety +10

      Andrew took early retirement when Thames Television ceased transmission. Sad to report that he passed away in 1999 at the age of 66.

    • @richardbutler4488
      @richardbutler4488 Před 2 lety +9

      Such a warm close, considering it must have been a really difficult program to but together that night, and team must have been demoralised from then on.
      Pity Thames withered away over time! Wonder how it would have played out if they held onto the franchise, quality of programming would surely have been better for rest of the network. Imagine they would have probably have outputted some exciting programs and might very well have snapped up other regional companies. Certainly itv would be in a different place today, if they survived as an regional franchise holder somewhere.

  • @JasonC1782
    @JasonC1782 Před 2 lety +31

    Full credit to the way that Thames News reported on the outcome in such a professionally balanced way despite being the major losing company.

  • @pak8606
    @pak8606 Před 2 lety +13

    16th October 1991 was a sad day for ITV. 31st December 1992 was probably the saddest day of all.

  • @rajnirvan3336
    @rajnirvan3336 Před 2 lety +22

    Saddest day in tv history when Thames lost franchise. This also brings back memories of switching between both Australian soaps every afternoon

  • @andrewclarke8723
    @andrewclarke8723 Před 2 lety +14

    Thames Television one for the finest broadcasters and producers ever! Terrible decision that ITV has never recovered from. Carlton could never match Thames and that was proved right. Carlton and ITV even tried to ensure Thames could not have its archive repeated for 10years! Outrageous ! The names Thames lives in to this day.

  • @markofsaltburn
    @markofsaltburn Před 2 lety +21

    There’s not enough Andrew Gardner on CZcams

  • @adamstamps3568
    @adamstamps3568 Před 2 lety +9

    they mention quality of programmes from the new companies that we havent seen yet

  • @jaydeeman2008
    @jaydeeman2008 Před 2 lety +2

    I had the pleasure of meeting the TN team and Andrew Gardner in the studios at Euston Road. Great broadcaster. Sad that we lost him so early

  • @carlingblacklabel2864
    @carlingblacklabel2864 Před 2 lety +11

    Imagine being told you'll eventually get fired then having to report it on TV.

    • @gavinmartin5151
      @gavinmartin5151 Před 2 lety +1

      well Kathy Taylor from tv-am was on maternity leave when tv-am lost to sunrise aka GMTV, so i don't know who told kathy she will be out of a job in december 1992

  • @simonjohnstone6671
    @simonjohnstone6671 Před 2 lety +7

    Almost 30 years ago this happened, interestingly Greg Dyke who was at LWT at the time went on to become director general of the BBC

  • @Scatscar1985
    @Scatscar1985 Před 2 lety +9

    The Australian Television Network was actually what the Seven Network originally called itself... and now they're back with Seven again....

    • @DisneyStudioNetwork
      @DisneyStudioNetwork Před 2 lety +2

      Now Seven’s production arm marketed as either Seven Beyond or Seven Studios

  • @briansergeant
    @briansergeant Před 2 lety +6

    October 16 1991. The day ITV changed forever.
    At least LWT survived until the inevitable. My region was one of 3 who came through that day unopposed.

    • @omegaman6494
      @omegaman6494 Před 2 lety +2

      Wonder how LWT execs felt about Thames disappearing

    • @paulhayes5724
      @paulhayes5724 Před 2 lety +2

      @@omegaman6494 Dyke does talk about it quite a bit in the ITV 50th series and in his book.

    • @AlexanderEdoh2013
      @AlexanderEdoh2013 Před 2 lety +1

      A sad day for ITV.

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 Před 2 lety

      @@omegaman6494 LWT had a terrible relationship with Thames from 1968 to 1991. LWT hated Thames, as they always felt Thames wanted a seven day week franchise, and wanted LWT to fail so they could swoop in and take over. Thames always placed a terrible programme on a Friday night before LWT took over at 7pm, which is why in 1982 the LWT start time changed to 5.15pm. Thames also enraged LWT by lowering their advertising rates, enticing companies to advertise on Thames and not on LWT who in their early years had a poor schedule and severe financial problems. All of this led to a toxic relationship between both companies, meaning they never cross promoted their shows. However from October 1991 all that ended. LWT had won, and they called it quits, a truce. They became more warmer and friendly to each other. LWT may have been treated badly by Thames, but they did not agree with the franchise auction decision.

  • @PerryCJamesUK
    @PerryCJamesUK Před 2 lety +5

    When I was a wee nipper I knew the tunes to all the different region indents and I'd make up words to them. Everything is so homogenous these days.

  • @AlexanderEdoh2013
    @AlexanderEdoh2013 Před 2 lety +6

    and regional ITV would never recover from this...

  • @lbyrne74
    @lbyrne74 Před 2 lety

    Fascinating video. Thanks for posting. The news anchor is the image of Frank Bough. The lady who said that the television broadcasting act in 1990 was single most destructive act in the history of broadcasting was correct.

  • @omegaman6494
    @omegaman6494 Před 2 lety +4

    The beginning of the end of proper ITV. I was only 5 when they made the announcement.

    • @MrThecarebear
      @MrThecarebear Před rokem

      The beginning of the end of proper ITV was 1st January 1988 as far as I am concerned.

    • @madmurdock100
      @madmurdock100 Před rokem

      @@MrThecarebear your view is not valid

  • @thepowerman1000
    @thepowerman1000 Před rokem

    I remember this well and even think I recorded it on tape. At the time I was 13 and the whole business fascinated me. I recall Andrew's closing words clearly. Also, not only is he now dead, but on the trail at the start so is Jeremy Beadle and Des O'Connor.

  • @mrhammadmossop1988ul-haq
    @mrhammadmossop1988ul-haq Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you Neil

  • @chrisrowe7503
    @chrisrowe7503 Před 2 lety +2

    Luckily most of the presenters from TVAM switched to GMTV. Even Mike Morris got his own Sunday spot. I think Carlton took on a lot of Thames staff as well. The one who is still laughing even now is Lorraine Kelly.

    • @gavinmartin5151
      @gavinmartin5151 Před 2 lety

      Lorraine Kelly has being with breakfast tv since 1984 , so she has outlive everybody that work on breakfask tv at itv . i guess she is still in touch with Kathy Taylor from tv-am , Lorraine Kelly sent Kathy a pre-recorded video message in may 2021 wishing her well because Kathy was retiring from QVC . they are good friends and they did share a dressing room at tv-am. and Carlton did take on thames tv announcer mark lipscomb by the way. no idea about the rest of the thames tv staff

  • @jacksugden8190
    @jacksugden8190 Před 2 lety

    Remember this like it was yesterday 30 years on from 1992, plus Home and Away, the news has changed, no COVID then, interesting how our circumstances have changed in all those years, nice to to have seen the late Andrew Gardner again, remember him at ITN.

    • @peterwilliamskelhorn6675
      @peterwilliamskelhorn6675 Před rokem

      +Jack Sugden I'm too young to remember the franchise war.
      It's nice to not hear about Covid all the time.

    • @jacksugden8190
      @jacksugden8190 Před rokem

      @@peterwilliamskelhorn6675 I wish I was younger then, as might have been better opportunities, now 66 on and a Old Aged Pensioner.

  • @robertcomer2767
    @robertcomer2767 Před rokem +2

    What the hell was in that Carlton application to get them through the quality threshold because I don't remember anything of quality between 1993 & 2002.

  • @TheImatube
    @TheImatube Před 2 lety +1

    A sad time, then we had more to come. 😢

  • @JamesRodwell-dc3jb
    @JamesRodwell-dc3jb Před 5 měsíci

    1:47 Paramedic Josh Griffiths from Casualty 🚑

  • @AmaanStorm
    @AmaanStorm Před rokem

    Uh, that Home & Away theme tune was the best! Particularly the last flourish of the theme where the date shows.

  • @AntarcticaTelevision
    @AntarcticaTelevision Před 2 lety +2

    The Day of Reckoning.

  • @johnking5174
    @johnking5174 Před 2 lety +2

    Thames Television spent their final 14 months on air with dignity, keeping their regional obligations and going out in a blaze of glory! Over at TV-am, they rotted off air, with their MD Bruce Gyngell choosing to go on a mega cost cutting agenda for 1992, closing TV-am news and handing news output to Sky News. TV-am just rotted off air during 1992 with no dignity at all.

  • @colinwright4488
    @colinwright4488 Před 5 měsíci

    For the advert for The Time The Place, is that Brian Wilde (Porridge & Last Of The Summer Wine) doing the V/O?

  • @CARLIN4737
    @CARLIN4737 Před 2 lety +1

    Mike Morris died from a cancer related illness in 2012......

  • @rtcp2020
    @rtcp2020 Před 9 měsíci

    Sad, but it was a canon event

  • @Redsleather
    @Redsleather Před 2 lety

    I wonder if Liz Pike was sitting there wishing she’d stayed at Central News, alongside Bob Warman, still in a job?

  • @wmbrown6
    @wmbrown6 Před 11 měsíci

    Looks like Link 110 cameras at 9:52.

  • @robertcomer2767
    @robertcomer2767 Před rokem

    Why was that licence not revoked and readvertised?

  • @343Floridamain
    @343Floridamain Před 2 lety +1

    i f**king hate this auction

  • @guypalmer7961
    @guypalmer7961 Před rokem

    So sad watching this knowing that Thames Television would be informed that their broadcasting licence would not be renewed after losing to Carlton Television in the 1991 ITV franchise battle. Of course, Thames would continue as an independent production company of programmes for other channels as well as ITV after their closure at the end of Deember 31st 1992, which was the expiry date for their broadcasting licence as an ITV broadcaster.

  • @soavesw1884
    @soavesw1884 Před 5 dny

    So sad Thames lost their franchise. Thames News was far superior to the sensationalist and tabloidy London Tonight with Alistair Stewart. Loved it when BBC's KYTV parodied Carlton's idents 😂

  • @thejobinterviewcoach9901

    Carlton failed miserably

    • @Redsleather
      @Redsleather Před rokem

      Network programming was awful, yes, but regionally London Tonight in its early years was far superior to Thames News. Carlton were also more experimental with their local London offerings, Thames always seemed a national broadcaster who had the inconvenience of a local audience

  • @noka1979
    @noka1979 Před rokem

    Home and away 🤢🤮