American speaks Latin with MEDIÆVAL Italian Reenactors! ⚔️ 🇮🇹
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- Can these Italian reenators at a Mediaeval festival in Ceccano, Italy, understand Latin? Let's find out! In this video, I met several people ready to take the challenge! I did not coach these people prior to recording the video; their spontaneous responses to questions posed in Latin are genuine.
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00:47 Ludovico
04:09 Anita
04:55 Aurora
06:17 Roberto Adinolfi
08:51 Roberto Caligiore
11:50 What is the most appropriate reaction to this story?
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That wonderful woman who started speaking fluent latin out of nowhere like a badass was fantastic
I really enjoyed hearing your conversation
Yeah! It was a super cool surprise. I couldn’t quite believe it was happening. Normally *I’m* the one to surprise people with random Latin!
I actually got shivers from that. She had Latin classes in High School and was still that fluent
Particularly interesting as she mentioned that the Latin she’d studied in school was reading and writing rather than speaking.
Latin is a subject in every classic highschool in Italy
She wasn't really fluid, it seems only because she speaks it with Italian accent. This guy Scorpio is more fluent.
Luke should be nominated as UNESCO heritage.
I'm literally gobsmacked listening to this bloke.
So funny when you said „Belle” after he just told you about the massacre. 😅
Haha yes, that’s why I thought it was funny, I’m glad you thought so too! 😂
Hilaris est
Better saying "bellum" 😂
@@Ralminron Hilare*
A true Roman
Italians when listening to:
- Ecclesiastical Latin: "Bravo!"
- Classical Latin: "Mamma mia, che cos'è?"
Haha. This tends to be true.
modern greeks when listening to erasmian ancient greek: mprabo!
Based classical Latin, True latín.
Italians are just Mario.
@@ScorpioMartianus già noi Italiani con la pronuncia siamo cambiati, non capiamo più la pronuncia classica.
Es:
Latino antico: ave
Latino classico: aue
As a Spanish speaker, I could understand most of the latin, but less of the Italian. Fascinating
Same as a Portuguese speaker. But maybe if the Italian was in a slower pace as the Latin, we would be able to understand more.
@@renatobabka263 i think it’s because of two reasons: Luke speaks very slowly in order to make himself understood, and the people in Ceccano speak with a Roman-Central Italian accent.
@@renatobabka263 yes, very true. Especially that one guy was speaking very fast and explaining a lot. I felt like he was in a mission to use the time he had in front of the camera to teach us as much as possible haha
And while - as sb who learned Italian - I can proudly say that I still understood most of what he said, I still thought 'dude, calm down speak a little slower' :D
Really? Italian and Spanish are the same language in most contexts.
@@mrclean29 The Lazio accent is very very close to the standard pronunciation, it doesn't make it any more difficult
As a Spanish speaker, I understood most of the Latin and Italian. This is very encouraging and enjoyable.
I am Romanian, I studied one year of Latin in school (8th grade). That was around 30 years ago...
Latin sounds familiar, I understood some words "ad litteram", and almost all the meaning of the questions. :)
For example, we still use "delectaris" in Romanian (the form today is "delecta"), with the same meaning. :)
He's basically speaking the watered-down Latin, not the actual hardcore one
I speak Spanish too and I can understand the Italian better than the Latin, which surprises me because Latin is the link.
I have a friend from Latin America. Her mother tongue is Spanish. She has some relatives in Italy, a part of her family who never left to Argentina. She came to visit them in Italy. She spoke Spanish, they answered in Italian. After a week or so they could have pretty fluent conversations, each speaking in their own language.
Apparently Aurora also knows Spanish, when she heard "gratias" she replied in Spanish with "gracias a ti"
yeah no, it's just that she was trying to find a way through the Latin declinations and conjugations
In italian it is "grazie a te" so she was probably trying to imitate the italian structure
man you must be hella fun at parties aren't ya?@@xano2921
Spanish????
11:58
*Roberto:* He killed 400 people among whom women and babies, then taking the lords of Morolo hostage.
*Luke:* How lovely!
Is in the roman spirit! Of course it's beautifuk.
@@anti-spiral159 "beautifuk"?!
@@gawelszczytkowski1991 No! Wait! I can explain! I meant beautiful! Noooooo!
I love how the mayor at the end gives really long responses without understanding the questions lmao
I actually thought he understood the questions perfectly, and showed great skill in being able to understand the speaker (me) through context clues and the normal rhythms of conversation, despite not knowing Latin better than the average Italian. It makes sense that any politician worth his salt would be adept at this.
Pretty sure he understood "quod cibo delectaris potissimus" as "what food can we delect ourselves with"
Politicians’ handbook, Rule 1: I f you don’t like the question, answer the question they should have asked you.
@@coffeemachtspass we are doing this right now in brazilian elections. Particularly on yesterday's presidential debate.
Politicians are the same everywhere.
Scusi, ma lei viene sempre nel mio paese ad importunare la gente con il latino? Perché è una cosa meravigliosa.
I am amazed by the fact that Italians are able to understand so well latin, wow!
??
It originated in Italy and It Is the direct ancestor of italian language. On top of that It Is still teached in schools.
The CZcams algorithm suggested me this video out of nowhere, but I read "Ceccano" and I clicked on it, even if, sadly, I've never learnt Latin. I come from a place about 40 km from Ceccano and it was interesting to learn that part of the Ceccano County during the Papal State. It was unknown to me.
Io conoscevo già il canale, ma ho visto "Ceccano" nel thumbnail e ho dovuto guardare, perforza. Troppo surreale.
Sono contento se voi due avete trovato il video grazie al nome di Ceccano!
Sto studiando entrambe le lingue (L'italiano e Latino), e ho capito tanto in questo video.
Hahahae
Potere! ILLIMITATO POTERE!
@Carmel Etiam
I'm Italian, but thank you for the English subtitles!
sempre meglio di quelli in tedesco nei film cecoslovacchi😁
I truly enjoy Luke’s videos of him interacting with various people throughout Italy in his quest to find common intelligibility between spoken Latin and Italian. It’s amazing to see some Italians make the effort to understand their current language’s predecessor. Vivat linguae Latinae et Italicae! 🇮🇹🇨🇦
Glad you liked it!
I find it fascinating how similar modern Italian is to medieval and ancient Latin. It seems that the other romance languages have diverged much more from their latin source (especially French but I guess this is because it has its origins in the langue d'oïl and not the langue d'oc). The germanic languages, especially English and German (my own language) have changed much more during the past centuries. Old English or Old High German are pretty much unintelligable to modern speakers, they are completely different languages.
without adding 50% French Vocabulaire both German and English couldn't exist simply reading Beowulf does the trick...so during the 400 years of French occupation the Anglisch language became modern English same happened to German...most Germanics had no problem adapting more advanced Italian and Gallo Roman culture and language.
Italian is a bit peculiar, it was never a language of the people, at the time of the unification, 1861 only 3 to a maximum of 10% could speak Italian in Italy.... That's why we are still able to read books written in the 12th century like "la divina commedia" how it was written then.
@@lucadivezza3531 Interesting. German has a similar history, but it was much more widespread at the time of unification. To be fair, the standardisation process of New High German began quite early (in the 16th century). Except for some experts, almost nobody in Germany would be able to read texts from the early and high middle ages.
@@untruelie2640 German language was established by Martin Luther during reformation choosing the dialect around Bonn, Plattdeutsch and Holländisch used to be part of German written languages thats why perhabs you aren't able to read it..also the German aristocracy all spoke French and Primitive German to become functional needed at least 50% French Vocabulaire same as Anglisch before becoming English, Turkish has 50'000 French words to be functional...ridicoulos was when the Germans suddenly wanted to Germanize ven further French words in their Duden was stopped since nobody followed this stupidity calling Restaurants Restorants...BTW the Alt-Hochdeutsch from the Luther Bible is still spoke by Mennonites and Amish.in North America..the so called Penssylvanian Dutch is actually Deutsch. Germans grown up only speaking High German are restricted only to understand and reading High German as people speaking Alsacien, Allemanic, Walserdeutsch, Bayrisch aremore versatile and can usually speak, read and understand several dialects even Flemish.
@@lucadivezza3531do you think a Roman peasant was able to speak the classical Latin of cicero? They too spoke a vernacular, a "different language", just like today.
Im spanish and i didnt know the Italians have the Camino De Santiago. Plus Ultra!!!
All Catholics do know and try to do historical pilgrimages, sometimes. Some people go to Jerusalem still. Not by feet, ROFL
Many Italians go to do the Camino in Spain,mostly young people even if they are not religious.
@@antoniousai1989 well...I did the Vía Romana from south Spain to Rome walking. Just took me 40 Days. Lmao
Sicuro, il Camino de Santiago esiste in Italia. Mio nipote ci ha partecipato.
The Santiago de Compostela has always been a Catholic pilgrimage site.
I'm amazed at how much I could understand between high school Latin decades ago and a few months of casual Italian study last year. Not that these were deep conversations but still! So much fun.
As a Portuguese and Spanish speaker I understood quite more than I expected
I am italian and i studied Latin at Gymnasium and beyond (I did classic studies). Even if years passed i can still understand pretty much everything. Italian Is very similar to latin so italians can widely understand what are you saying.
Too bad in Italy we almost never converse in latin during latin classes because Latin Is considered as Lingua Morta.
Da persona che non ha studiato latino alle superiori devo contraddirti, non si capisce niente 😅 Capisce solo chi lo ha studiato secondo me
@@darthwater999 Ambiguo, nemmeno io ho studiato latino però riesco a capire un buon 70% di quello che dice, la maggior parte delle volte mi aiuta anche il contesto però
As an American Latinist who had trouble with Vergil's Aeneid in high school, I agree with everything you said. Luke Ranieri, Daniel Pettersson of Latìnitium and many others are a great help to everyone learning Latin.
Fantastico! ❤ E bravissimi tutti!
Grātiās referō semper tibi, amorcule, quae tam bene cēpistī imāginēs vīvās!
Mihi valdē placuit hanc pelliculam. Pelliculae tuae semper optimae sunt, Luciī ❤!
Beautiful!!! I love Italy and the Romance Languages!!! Latin is freaking awesome!!
I did Latin in 1992 for one year as part of my law degree. I'm so shocked I can understand😳
Yep. Salve Juris magisterium, even from wee SEA country, i am suprised with the limited learning of Latin, i could comprehend some of the words.
You have an excellent speaking voice.
My mom's father was into stamp collecting in Poland in the 50s, 60s and 70s. He had contacts all around Europe and every year or two he’s take the family on big road trips, along the way picking up the money the contacts held for him from sales they’d done through the mail.
Where people didn’t understand German, he’d communicate in Latin, which I’ve always found amusing. My mom has many fond memories of these trips.
isnt yer mother's father yer grandfather tho
@@user-bj4nc5rd2z Yeah lol, but since like most people I've had 2 grandfathers I wanted to specify which. Though it doesn't really matter I guess.
Sounds like a great memory!
Man, can I give you an advice? Write down the wonderful memory of your granpa
Bel video Luke e complimenti a tutti! Ceccano è una bella cittadina ❤
Grazie, Maria!
Well, it is true that we study Latin with some discrepancies like the pronunciation etc., but we do learn a lot just by studying latin literature in latin. I really hope I can get to speak it freely like you do someday, even though I'm in my 4th year of high school
You can do it! Ce la fai!
Medieval Latin Luke. Hoc nōn exspectāveram.
I don't know how anyone can ever say that Latin is 'dead' language. First of all, it's still language of scholars and priests and Italian is it's direct successor language. So it's definitely more alive than Anglo-Saxon or Frankish, very hard to understand in modern English and French.
The term is referred when no one speaks it as his first language. But it is still spoken for many out there so it is not dead at all because memories remain.
true, same with old germanic and modern one.
It has no native speakers, it's dead
Defending a dead language by bringing up other dead languages. You aren't very bright
@@apollo1694 The Vatican City is the sovereign state where Latin is the official language. Tens of thousand people speak Latin fluently. Compare that with Anglo-Saxon and Frankish. They're not just dead, they're buried in deep tombs and most people don't know about them at all. Tens of millions use Latin quotes in comments at least, even if they don't understand them correctly. And I wouldn't be surprised if some ambitious parents even taught kids to speak Latin from the start. So really, if not alive, then undead language. But not dead.
I quite appreciate that all in some way understood and answered fairly well to the questions, especially with jovial attitude.
(Even about speaking about a small massacre ;) )
Really enjoyed the conversation with Ludovico and Anita.
Even the mayor was pretty excellent, even though with too much Politichese probably, but that's his work.
Keep up the wonderful work!
Salvete ex Aternum et Anxanum!
you found one of the best latin speaker in all Italy. Nobody after Liceo Classico and after 40 years remember such things and it's a pity. By the way, during high school nobody speaks so fluent anyway!
Thanks for this one, Luke, I enjoyed following both the Latin and the Italian in this one. Amazing how much the two languages are comprehensible to each other.
It would be interesting to see the same style of conversation in Sardinia. It is claimed Sardinian is the closest living relative of Latin.
Wonderful, i like this videos
Thank you so much Luke
This series is truly fascinating!
Great video, as always!
Man. I love Italy! I have to go back for a visit soon.
I love your videos where you just speak in Latin. You made me pick up latin as my 6th language! Thank you! 😃
Grand!
Très belle langue, bravo à ceux qui comprennent le latin et le parlent !
Latin sounds so so awesome 👏🏼
this makes me want to learn Latin now its such a beautiful language.
You can right here czcams.com/play/PLU1WuLg45SiyrXahjvFahDuA060P487pV.html
@@ScorpioMartianus thank you I'll most definitely watch the playlist :D
While you’re at it, you should also learn how to use punctuation marks.
Wait, we in Italy don't speak Latin, we can understand a lot of it, but speaking Latin is different. The point is that for us Latin is like (but I don't want to be disrespectful with the Old King) an old clothes, a one that however old and worn out you'd never throw away for it's part of you, of your identity, of your intimate history as human being, we may say that Latin is part of our soul and we not even know it is.
I really enjoyed this video as lot of people, at least, were able to understand and reply to your latin words!
Once in a while I watch to your vids and they're very interesting from different points of view.
VALDE BONA VERBORUM!
I don’t know why, but I couldn’t help but smile while watching this video. It was so wholesome! Thank you so much for this ❤
Thanks for watching!
Your videos are oddly calming to my heart.
I've learnt Latin for 3 years on school while barely keeping up with the homework.
Still it gave me an advantage to intuitively understand a bit when people speak Spanish or Italian.
But I've never really come across actual Latin ever since school.
It's satisfying to listen the first Romance language that I've ever learnt.
So nostalgic
And it's nice to hear it instead of reading.
(Even though this accent already sounded a lot more like Italian than your usual Latin)
Thanks for these nostalgic feelings.
I never expected it would unleash such feels
This video is gold!
This was really nice. Thank you for doing this.
Thanks for watching!
Very cool finding out that the mayor is from my city, Siracusa!
Awesome videos!!!
Love these videos. The Latin subtitles help a lot.
Anita was absolutely adorable, and smart as a whip!
Wonderful! As an Italian who went to the classic school you unlocked lot of memories, and now I really hope you put some ancient Greek subs too 🤗
so glad you're in my beautiful province! enjoy your stay :)
Have you ever tried, out of sheer curiosity, to read and investigate a little bit about early medieval Italian? The Placiti Cassinesi, the Saint Clement and Sisinnius inscription, the Veronese Riddle... All before the year 1000 and considered as the first examples of Italian language. It's fashinating, to notice how they still remind the latin roots, but they start to march toward the full medieval italian and then, the modern italian.
Yes! It’s fascinating
It's fun to find someone who can speak ancient language, keep discover our ancestors heritage.
The Catholic Church made a huge mistake, taking out the Latin.
I hear so many younger people commenting how much they like Latin. There are Catholics going, for the first time in their lives, to a Latin Mass, and are in awe.
Interestingly, I am far from being a "traditionalist," but there are certain things that have been traditionally the same for centuries, for many good reasons. It takes one group in one generation to change that forever?
They had to take down latin because they realized that people didn’t understand a word anymore, so it was kinda blasphemous to attend mass without truly comprehending the Lord’s word. It was a merely practical decision which has been followed by the use of local languages (right now known as dialects) in public administration too
@@MarcusKrank
In the missal there was native language on the left page, and Latin on the right page.
Every one I knew at the time had a pretty good understanding, and could go to any other country, while being able to follow the mass.
This is mind blowing !
Grandissima la signora che ha fatto il classico!
Love your channel! ❤
Thanks for watching!
This was so damn fascinating to watch. LOVE seeing the dots being connected between an ancient language and its descendant.
Molto bello il video. Bravi i vari intervistati a capire le domande e bravissimo chi ha risposto in latino.
Un saluto da dove il fiume Sacco inizia il suo percorso. 🙂👋🏻
This is great!
Very interesting. Love Holst's Mars at the end.
Thanks. It’s the theme song for this channel.
This is a question somewhat unrelated (ok completely unrelated) to this video, but have you ever considered visiting anywhere else in the mediterranean region to see (& talk to us about) old roman ruins outside of Rome/Italy? There are roman ruins in places like Beit She'an (Israel) or El Djem (Tunisia) that are absolutely incredible.
Indeed. I don’t get to travel often so it won’t be anytime soon
@@ScorpioMartianus Oh so you actually live in Italy? I guess that makes sense. I always thought you lived in the US and flew over periodically.
Lucas professor, urbs haec pulcherrima est: me Ierusalem commemorat.
Dang! Ceccano! That brings back memories to me!
I went there several years ago for a concert!
It was really a weird day. It was June, but still I had the misfortune of running into a downpour and cold weather. In the end I also felt unwell because of those (and other) small mishaps.
But I will always affectionately remember Ceccano.
Lucius, se ti capita di passare dal Piemonte ti offro un caffè. Sei troppo forte. 💪
This was a fun video. I am surprising myself with how much of the Latin I am able to comprehend. Same goes for the Italian. My first language is English, second is Spanish. I never studied Italian or Latin but I am able to figure most of it out. The subtitles in Latin actual help as I recognize the root word of the English or Spanish word and figure out the meaning. I have heard the Latin mass many times never thought I understood it. Maybe I learned more than I realized.
Fascinating!
Great video
Como hispano parlante, me sentí más cómodo escuchando el latín, me pareció más similar a el Español a veces que el propio italiano. Pude entenderlos ambos muy bien debido a que he tomado clases de vocabulario italiano, y tambien por que usas un acento muy claro y entendible. Felicitaciones, eres un ser humano increíble.
I love this video ❤️
Amazing 😲
This is exquisite!
Loved how they knew some Latin!
As someone who speaks Spanish, Portuguese, English and a little Italian. It’s interesting to listen to Latin. Some of the words are understandable enough to make out what he is trying to say
The Lady in the beginning was a joy to hear! As a Romanian, I understood 50 percent of the Latin, since I'm fluent in Italian, Portuguese and Spanish plus we had compulsory Latin classes in high-school . But boy, what I joy to hear it properly spoken... How I wish we had teachers like you back then.
I actually had a time in my teens when I was attempting to read books in Latin, really not the best way to learn since the text was far too difficult and without proper references to modem life.
Secretly, I still have a lot of love for old languages...
I don’t speak any Latin language and English isn’t my primary language but it was fascinating to watch, thanks!
Very impressive to remember so much from high school. I took four years of Italian and could barely speak a word of it the day after graduation. My brain fights me on learning new languages, much to my dismay.
These people understood latin better than the ones in Rome!
as only an english speaker, it was awesome to hear so many similarities to english in latin(obviously it was based from it). makes me want to learn it beside spanish
What a nice video! The lady in the beginning... Now - since "i fagioli" appeared in Europe after the end of the Middle Ages (a.D. 1492), what phaseolus were eaten? Maybe fava beans (Coptic falafel from ancient Egypt) or Vigna unguiculata, sort of running beans not so popular. Bellissimo video Luke!
Εῦγε! Macte!
Ϯϣⲉⲡϩ̀ⲙⲟⲧ, ⲡⲁϣⲫⲏⲣ!
I spoke Italian briefly as a kid and could get the gist of everything being said - nuts!
Se ti piacciono i festival medievali, ti consiglio quello di Volterra che è incredibile. Centro storico di Volterra mozzafiato, centinaia di persone in costume, cibo medievale, musica medievale dappertutto, perfino le monete (durante la festa è possibile fare acquisti soltanto tramite una finta moneta "antica")... Sembra di stare in un'altra epoca.
Sapresti dirmi in che periodo lo fanno? Se posso ci vado.
What a lovely town!
Hai ascoltato il mio consiglio. Bravo.
Any italian can understand simple Latin. Italian is de facto modern latin. And in upper grade school in italy Latin is studied.
Direi di no, non senza una base. E non in tutti i licei viene insegnato il latino.
@@simon20002 secondo te come mai tutte e dico tutte le persone del video hanno saputo capire le domande? Sono tutti studiosi di latino? E poi si in tutti i licei classici e scientifici si studia ancora
So.. the Greek ευγε is written euge just pronounced a bit different e ou ge.giusto? I really liked this episode. Ottimo!
Wow i love this
You are doing a wonderful job Luke! Everything is wonderful! Except the lady who loves beans among the ancient foods. Apart from some similar species of Chinese origin already present in ancient times, the beans we know were imported into Europe guess from where? From America, after its discovery. Well after the Roman Empire and even after the Middle Ages.
Ego habitō in Vīcō Latiī, māter mea Alātrīna est, nōn exspectābam vidēre Cicānum in hāc pelliculā! Spērō ut faciam plūrēs pelliculas in prōvinciā Frusināte. 💖
Sei di Frosinone??? Io di Terracina fra!
Io sono al terzo anno di liceo classico tu?
@@imperitalica Terzo linguistico al Pietrobono ad Alatri, non so se hai presente, tra Frosinone e Fiuggi per farti capire
@@LorenzoF06 si,si ho presente! Marò parli il latino meglio di me!
@@imperitalica Nah, ma le quantità me le sono comunque andato a cercare per sicurezza, stessa cosa per "ut", lo conosco ma non so usarlo. Da solo avrei potuto fare una frase tale da farmi capire ma volevo scrivere un commento tutto in latino fatto bene. Ah, e la maggior parte delle cose che so le ho imparate da Luke o per cavoli miei, considerando che il latino del linguistico è comunque quello che è
Good stuff
Gratias Maximas. Ego hic Sud Brazile Sum.
Aqui no Brasil, sinto que o fim do ensino do latim nas escolas, contribuiu para que a população falasse um Português cada vez mais errado.
I'm currently crunching through LLPSI (after having memorised the inflection tables), currently in capitulum XV. Trying my best to ignore the English subtitles, I'm kinda starting to get the gist of the sentences (in Latin, not in Italian 😀). It is a wonderful feeling!
Next time, would it be possible to put the subtitles in the actual CZcams subtitles, so that it is possible turn them on/off?
All you have to do is pinch/zoom out on an iPhone and the Latin subtitles alone are visible.
@@ScorpioMartianus Clever, didn't think of that. Thanks!
I'm a spanish speaker, back in 7-12 grade they gave Latin translation as an optative(which I picked) and compulsary philosphy too from grade 8-9 to 12, I'm really thankfull for it, Latin is the most beautifull language I know.
This is where my Family is from. Surprised to see Ceccano in a video LOL