Great video, helped me to do the job on my friend's Vauxhall Mocca Z 1.4 Turbo here in the UK. BTW, for all of us thinking in metrics, 71 inch lbs is 8 Nm for those E10 bolts.
I can't emphasize enough how much your clear and detailed instructions helped me save a ton of money for repair and get my wife's 2018 Buick Encore back on the road! I'm in no way an expert in vehicle repairs, but I was able to get this done within an hour or so. Rolled with an aluminum replacement off of Amazon and hoping it is more kind to us than the OEM plastic.
Was wondering what are had the crack in it . i dont see anything on the top unless its where the hose connects or if its underneath. but i see coolant dripping under and across to the back and then down
Just picked up an aluminum one also, hoping it lasts a bit longer...my OEM GM has what looks like 2 cracks at the elbow joints. How did your repair go? any concerns?
Wife's 2020 Sonic over heat light came on while on way home, fluid coming out of hose at nipple connection, almost as if clamp wasn't tight enough. Adjusted and got it home. This morning pulled hose off and top half of nipple is completely broken away.(have pic) Your video is going to make this repair a breeze and save this working stiff some moolah! Two 👍👍
My condolences. Been there, done that at 132K on my 2012 Sonic LT 1.4l turbo. ZZP now has a beautiful cast aluminum water outlet for the Sonic 1.4l Ecotech. Comes with gasket and temp sensor and both OEM star bolts and Allen bolts. Installed easy as pie.
I wish I had ordered the aluminium aftermarket version of the part because my dealer installed another plastic one. The plastic one had cracked at only 109,000 km. They told me that you can't trust n😅n OEM parts...
amazing video work and tutorial. one of the best how to videos ive watched. usually i still feel a little bit nervous before attempting a repair first time but this one is great
I’ve done many of these and both parts fail in the same way doesn’t really matter which one you go with but OE is always a good idea but not always available right away so I usually go with who can get me the part quicker. Also the thermostat housing on these same models fail by cracking I really don’t understand why they went with plastic instead of a aluminum housing.
Designed to fail to sell more of them and sell more labor....keeps the money coming in to pay for multi million dollar homes, yachts and planes. That good ole predatory capitalism..
hey mechanic checking in, great video and very informative. im doing a water outlet in the street later and wanted to know what tools i needed so thank you for calling the E10 out because that was my biggest question. didnt want to lug the whole set with me LOL
Thank you for your help, I ran into another issue. While removing the e10 screws all three of them broke from the thread any advice on how to remove the thread that stayed stuck?
A very good and informative video. But it drove me crazy that you worked the whole time with a wire harness in the way. I would have taken 30 seconds and moved it out.
The only concern would be quality of fitment so that you don't get problems connecting up to the rest. While metal instead of plastic construction could make for a longer life for this housing part, low cost asian manufacturing could yield new problems. If you go that route, my advice is to stay with a reputable aftermarket more expensive brand not something price driven off of Temu or AliExpress ;-)
I was tightening the bolts trying to hit 71 pounds. One of the bolts snapped so I have a broken bolt in the engine block. Going to have to try to tap it out. Anybody that tries this might want to torque them to a lesser specification.
Mine is leaking on the top of the water outlet from the line that has the retaining clip. Whenever I wiggle the hose it leaks just above that retaining clip. Would I have to replace the entire water outlet just for that? Just like the sensor, would there be an o-ring that might have cracked/split?
It's likely the plastic housing of the outlet has cracked in that area you're describing. It will be a hairline crack most likely, once the engine is warmed up you should see coolant actively oozing out from the crack area on its own. That may help determine if the leak is coming from the housing, or the hose itself.
Whats that hose piece at the top that goes to the reserve tank I had to use my old one that was in there and put it in my new one it k8nda leaks from that spot still
I believe you're referring to the small diameter air bleed hose assembly connecting to the very top of the water outlet. You leave the plastic end elbow on that hose attached, as I showed in the vid. That elbow is not serviced separately, it's part of the air bleed hose assembly.
It would be very obvious where any of the cooling hoses would be leaking with such a large tear or split in a coolant hose. With a large leak it should be easy to locate visually. But any component of the engine cooling system could be the source. Reservoir, radiator, primary hoses to the radiator, secondary hoses to the engine and heater, engine block, cylinder head, or the water pump are all possible sources. There's alot of places to check, and it has to be a visual inspection by someone experienced in finding these kinds of problems as it can also involve a missing fastener or clamp. Not something that can be diagnosed over a comment forum.
Trying to help my mom save money, they told her that the coolant hose behind the turbo is leaking. That would be this correct? Trying to help her find the part online since the dealer says they don't have it and don't know when it will be in. Hers is a 2019 chevy Trax
There are more than one design of these engines, this video is for the option codes listed in the description. Some of the part numbers are different between the two model engines (the later 1.4L design started in 2016 but was only used on some GM models. Other GM models continued to use this same 1.4L engine I show here thru 2020). You cannot replace just the one part, as the turbo has to be removed to replace that coolant line, and as a result a number of gaskets, fasteners, and related parts must also be replaced as they are one time use only in design.
I'm just not a fan of using aftermarket parts. Despite the longevity issues with plastics, genuine OEM parts are going to have superior fitment. This is particularly true for the combination thermostat/housing where these two are molded into a single assembly by GM. I view these sort of coolant leak repairs as just part of the maintenance cost of owning a GM Ecotec 1.4L (along with the myriad oil leakage issues these engines have). I advise their owners _If you bought the car because you loved it, you have love all its faults as well._ ;-)
I believe you're referring to that large diameter rubber air hose. If so, that's a part unique to the Sonic, when compared to the Cruze and other GM models, installation of the Ecotec 1.4L engine. It's a _charge air outlet_ hose that routes to the intercooler. GM part 95182749. Here's a couple of affiliate (#ad) links where you can find it online amzn.to/3rAbnVT or ebay.us/z2r7xe
I think this is what mine is doing must be a crack like this since its a tiny leak not big just yet . so the whole thing needs to come out then ? , not sure why they make everything plastic that gets that hot could it be the gasket that is leaking or is that something that doesnt really cause the leak i was wondering . Thanks for sharing
Once they crack they have to be replaced yes. Since it's made of plastic, and contains a very hot fluid under pressure, there's no lasting repair to the housing that can be made other than full replacement of the part with an original GM one (links are in the description).
I got to bring it in to a car place and have them look and fix it . not a big job just have to cool the car and have the right tools and know what your doing m that clamp thing you have is really handy for those tight spaces. that is really nice to have.. is it better to drain the coolant first so it dont get all over the engine or no ?
When these vehicles get over a certain age, trying to release the coolant petcock, or removing other hoses, often leads to more damaged and broken plastic parts. So as you saw me do in the video, I don't bother with that on vehicles over a decade old. Just catch the lost coolant and recycle it, it's hazardous to wildlife. Be sure to let the engine completely cool before starting the job, to avoid getting burned. And when the job is done, be sure to hose off any coolant residue from the engine compartment with water.
Ya my car is 8 years old with 54k miles chevy cruze i guess they are noted for this problem i just read about .. every day i find a half a teaspoon of coolant on the garage floor so its not to bad yet but i dont want it getting worse .. i may tell them to replace that upper and lower hose to so its all new and clean as well ..
These vehicles take on a lot of heat in every day use and in today's economy i would step up the maintenance schedule quite a bit to help combat the slow and long term damage that mediocre service would produce. I have been doing my own work most of my life and have learned that the owners manual isn't always the best guide to follow. Foe example the owners manual in a Chevrolet Spark says change the transmission fluid every 45000 miles. While the car is sold in 36 countries around the world nowhere is the demand of high speed driving and yearly miles is greater than the USA. A CVT gets hot on a long drive at highway speeds and adjusting your service interval might be wise. I'm always bothered by the fact the service manual is written before the vehicle hits the road in great numbers and not having any real idea how maintenance plays out in real world driving. In my opinion the 3.6 Pentastar Dodge Jeep service manual should be overhauled because the amount of plastic parts on and around the higher and hotter locations of the engine. You Tubes ' I Do Cars" is a case exploration of of one engine after another failing from the lack of understanding how clean motor oil is supposed to work. Oil has two jobs. Right away some of you are going what? Why do you think people cook with oil. It transfers heat. Any liquid has a point of absorption. You can put sugar in water and it will only absorb what can be diluted, the rest sits on the bottom of the glass. Adding water will dilute the rest of the sugar and it will no longer be seen on the bottom of the glass. I like to think motor oil should be changed while it is still clear to some degree and able to carry away the solids that stain the metal in the engine before it's unable to absorb the particulate in the oil. Using a high quality oil doesn't mean leaving it longer. Coolant should be changed at some point before it looks old and dirty. The fluid in this video was left unserviced a long time from the color of it. Why don't people keep driving until the tires pop. Do you honestly believe there are transmission fluids that last the life of the transmission. Every 30-35k people. Don't drive the transmission until it pops. Plastic and other parts like sensors go bad with heat exhaustion. Not the kind of heat you see on the water gauge on the dash. The gradual heat from extended service, The I can't remember when kind of heat that only comes from the heart while no real service records are kept or thought about as long as the car seems fine. It's not fine people. its the loss of years driving from excessive wear. Add those car payments up. Most in America don't know service intervals and often your lied to about them from those wanting you to believe they sell a super car. The GM at a Toyota dealer said they recommended 10k mile oil changes. I said to his face " Sure you do, Your in the sales business not the ownership business" Their mismanaged garage had me back 3 out of 5 times for something left unfinished. I'm sure the senior mechanics probably put a lot of abuse onto the new guys. The kinds of stuff left unfinished. No management.
I don't understand why most people talk bad about chinese parts when we all.know if parts were made to last like it should,we wouldn't be replacing them to start.
In a professional business environment you learn _quickly_ that aftermarket parts last far less than OEM, fit worse if it all, and _always_ cause customer drama. It's a huge scam for the uninformed public in being able to buy those inferior low quality parts, which are imported en masse from asia. You do at times get OEM parts where there is a design flaw, or where the engineers did not anticipate conditions that result in premature failures in the field. But even in those cases, the OEM version of the part will consistently outperform the imported counterfeits, imitations, and copycats in fitment and longevity. In repairs, DIY is a labor savings on your wallet. It's not about cutting corners on the parts and tools. The OEM part may initially cost more, but even if flawed in design, it will not have to be replaced as often. And will fit without further modifications and get the vehicle back on the road without further drama.
I have to thank you once again my friend for such a wonderful breakdown and assembly video. You got me through this feeling like a pro. And thanks for the links you are a true blessing.
Great video, helped me to do the job on my friend's Vauxhall Mocca Z 1.4 Turbo here in the UK. BTW, for all of us thinking in metrics, 71 inch lbs is 8 Nm for those E10 bolts.
I can't emphasize enough how much your clear and detailed instructions helped me save a ton of money for repair and get my wife's 2018 Buick Encore back on the road! I'm in no way an expert in vehicle repairs, but I was able to get this done within an hour or so. Rolled with an aluminum replacement off of Amazon and hoping it is more kind to us than the OEM plastic.
Was wondering what are had the crack in it . i dont see anything on the top unless its where the hose connects or if its underneath. but i see coolant dripping under and across to the back and then down
Just picked up an aluminum one also, hoping it lasts a bit longer...my OEM GM has what looks like 2 cracks at the elbow joints. How did your repair go? any concerns?
Wife's 2020 Sonic over heat light came on while on way home, fluid coming out of hose at nipple connection, almost as if clamp wasn't tight enough. Adjusted and got it home. This morning pulled hose off and top half of nipple is completely broken away.(have pic) Your video is going to make this repair a breeze and save this working stiff some moolah! Two 👍👍
My condolences. Been there, done that at 132K on my 2012 Sonic LT 1.4l turbo. ZZP now has a beautiful cast aluminum water outlet for the Sonic 1.4l Ecotech. Comes with gasket and temp sensor and both OEM star bolts and Allen bolts. Installed easy as pie.
Hi where did you find that I can't seem to find any thanks
I wish I had ordered the aluminium aftermarket version of the part because my dealer installed another plastic one. The plastic one had cracked at only 109,000 km. They told me that you can't trust n😅n OEM parts...
Thank you for being so through and even advising to clean up the coolant so the wildlife don’t get poisoned. A++++
amazing video work and tutorial. one of the best how to videos ive watched. usually i still feel a little bit nervous before attempting a repair first time but this one is great
This was a fantastic step but step. Replaced the manifold and look like a hero haha. Thank you.
I’ve done many of these and both parts fail in the same way doesn’t really matter which one you go with but OE is always a good idea but not always available right away so I usually go with who can get me the part quicker. Also the thermostat housing on these same models fail by cracking I really don’t understand why they went with plastic instead of a aluminum housing.
Zzp has an aluminum one
Designed to fail to sell more of them and sell more labor....keeps the money coming in to pay for multi million dollar homes, yachts and planes. That good ole predatory capitalism..
hey mechanic checking in, great video and very informative. im doing a water outlet in the street later and wanted to know what tools i needed so thank you for calling the E10 out because that was my biggest question. didnt want to lug the whole set with me LOL
I know this is late but its an E10 Star Socket. You could also use an 8mm standard Socket if you don't have the E10.
Thank you for your help, I ran into another issue. While removing the e10 screws all three of them broke from the thread any advice on how to remove the thread that stayed stuck?
A very good and informative video. But it drove me crazy that you worked the whole time with a wire harness in the way. I would have taken 30 seconds and moved it out.
Dr. I understand there is an Aluminum upgraded replacement part for this, is there any reason NOT to use it and keep using the GM plastic version?
The only concern would be quality of fitment so that you don't get problems connecting up to the rest. While metal instead of plastic construction could make for a longer life for this housing part, low cost asian manufacturing could yield new problems. If you go that route, my advice is to stay with a reputable aftermarket more expensive brand not something price driven off of Temu or AliExpress ;-)
I was tightening the bolts trying to hit 71 pounds. One of the bolts snapped so I have a broken bolt in the engine block. Going to have to try to tap it out. Anybody that tries this might want to torque them to a lesser specification.
@@jibblyjump I'm going to assume you tightened it to 71 FOOT lb and not 71 INCH lb like the video says?
Mine is leaking on the top of the water outlet from the line that has the retaining clip. Whenever I wiggle the hose it leaks just above that retaining clip. Would I have to replace the entire water outlet just for that? Just like the sensor, would there be an o-ring that might have cracked/split?
It's likely the plastic housing of the outlet has cracked in that area you're describing. It will be a hairline crack most likely, once the engine is warmed up you should see coolant actively oozing out from the crack area on its own. That may help determine if the leak is coming from the housing, or the hose itself.
I had this same issue. An o ring fixed the leak.
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Hi, that can make don't work the cooling fan? Because my sonic have this problem.
Whats that hose piece at the top that goes to the reserve tank I had to use my old one that was in there and put it in my new one it k8nda leaks from that spot still
I believe you're referring to the small diameter air bleed hose assembly connecting to the very top of the water outlet. You leave the plastic end elbow on that hose attached, as I showed in the vid. That elbow is not serviced separately, it's part of the air bleed hose assembly.
Thank you!! Yeah that's what I'm talking about
If it just the hose it self will it lose coolant all at once?
It would be very obvious where any of the cooling hoses would be leaking with such a large tear or split in a coolant hose. With a large leak it should be easy to locate visually. But any component of the engine cooling system could be the source. Reservoir, radiator, primary hoses to the radiator, secondary hoses to the engine and heater, engine block, cylinder head, or the water pump are all possible sources.
There's alot of places to check, and it has to be a visual inspection by someone experienced in finding these kinds of problems as it can also involve a missing fastener or clamp. Not something that can be diagnosed over a comment forum.
Trying to help my mom save money, they told her that the coolant hose behind the turbo is leaking. That would be this correct? Trying to help her find the part online since the dealer says they don't have it and don't know when it will be in. Hers is a 2019 chevy Trax
There are more than one design of these engines, this video is for the option codes listed in the description. Some of the part numbers are different between the two model engines (the later 1.4L design started in 2016 but was only used on some GM models. Other GM models continued to use this same 1.4L engine I show here thru 2020). You cannot replace just the one part, as the turbo has to be removed to replace that coolant line, and as a result a number of gaskets, fasteners, and related parts must also be replaced as they are one time use only in design.
Does the same apply to a1. 8 litter
Not directly, very different engine - different parts.
I've replaced 2 on my cruze .
would like to know your thoughts on using a aluminum version of this and using a aluminum thermostat housing as well.
I'm just not a fan of using aftermarket parts. Despite the longevity issues with plastics, genuine OEM parts are going to have superior fitment. This is particularly true for the combination thermostat/housing where these two are molded into a single assembly by GM. I view these sort of coolant leak repairs as just part of the maintenance cost of owning a GM Ecotec 1.4L (along with the myriad oil leakage issues these engines have). I advise their owners _If you bought the car because you loved it, you have love all its faults as well._ ;-)
Love a Cruze? Bahahaha...you're funny!@@DrShock
At the 2 min mark you pointed out an Air hose. What is this hose called? I’m having a very difficult time finding a replacement
I believe you're referring to that large diameter rubber air hose. If so, that's a part unique to the Sonic, when compared to the Cruze and other GM models, installation of the Ecotec 1.4L engine. It's a _charge air outlet_ hose that routes to the intercooler. GM part 95182749. Here's a couple of affiliate (#ad) links where you can find it online amzn.to/3rAbnVT or ebay.us/z2r7xe
Yeah that’s the one I was talking about but I have a 2018 trax
I have one and I find oil on the big hose you just remove it do you know why is happened
eco valve cover is plastic and warps over time. I replaced the valve cover for 80$ and it fixed the "leaking" oil.
I think this is what mine is doing must be a crack like this since its a tiny leak not big just yet . so the whole thing needs to come out then ? , not sure why they make everything plastic that gets that hot could it be the gasket that is leaking or is that something that doesnt really cause the leak i was wondering . Thanks for sharing
Once they crack they have to be replaced yes. Since it's made of plastic, and contains a very hot fluid under pressure, there's no lasting repair to the housing that can be made other than full replacement of the part with an original GM one (links are in the description).
I got to bring it in to a car place and have them look and fix it . not a big job just have to cool the car and have the right tools and know what your doing m that clamp thing you have is really handy for those tight spaces. that is really nice to have.. is it better to drain the coolant first so it dont get all over the engine or no ?
When these vehicles get over a certain age, trying to release the coolant petcock, or removing other hoses, often leads to more damaged and broken plastic parts. So as you saw me do in the video, I don't bother with that on vehicles over a decade old. Just catch the lost coolant and recycle it, it's hazardous to wildlife. Be sure to let the engine completely cool before starting the job, to avoid getting burned. And when the job is done, be sure to hose off any coolant residue from the engine compartment with water.
Ya my car is 8 years old with 54k miles chevy cruze i guess they are noted for this problem i just read about .. every day i find a half a teaspoon of coolant on the garage floor so its not to bad yet but i dont want it getting worse .. i may tell them to replace that upper and lower hose to so its all new and clean as well ..
I see some aftermarket brands are made aluminum. Whay is your opinion?
I'm from the go OEM or go home camp. ;-)
Could you tell me what torque did you tighten the bolts to? thanks!
I don't recall off hand, but it is in the video within the _installation_ chapter.
What are the main tools to use?
These vehicles take on a lot of heat in every day use and in today's economy i would step up the maintenance schedule quite a bit to help combat the slow and long term damage that mediocre service would produce. I have been doing my own work most of my life and have learned that the owners manual isn't always the best guide to follow. Foe example the owners manual in a Chevrolet Spark says change the transmission fluid every 45000 miles. While the car is sold in 36 countries around the world nowhere is the demand of high speed driving and yearly miles is greater than the USA. A CVT gets hot on a long drive at highway speeds and adjusting your service interval might be wise. I'm always bothered by the fact the service manual is written before the vehicle hits the road in great numbers and not having any real idea how maintenance plays out in real world driving. In my opinion the 3.6 Pentastar Dodge Jeep service manual should be overhauled because the amount of plastic parts on and around the higher and hotter locations of the engine. You Tubes ' I Do Cars" is a case exploration of of one engine after another failing from the lack of understanding how clean motor oil is supposed to work. Oil has two jobs. Right away some of you are going what? Why do you think people cook with oil. It transfers heat. Any liquid has a point of absorption. You can put sugar in water and it will only absorb what can be diluted, the rest sits on the bottom of the glass. Adding water will dilute the rest of the sugar and it will no longer be seen on the bottom of the glass. I like to think motor oil should be changed while it is still clear to some degree and able to carry away the solids that stain the metal in the engine before it's unable to absorb the particulate in the oil. Using a high quality oil doesn't mean leaving it longer. Coolant should be changed at some point before it looks old and dirty. The fluid in this video was left unserviced a long time from the color of it. Why don't people keep driving until the tires pop. Do you honestly believe there are transmission fluids that last the life of the transmission. Every 30-35k people. Don't drive the transmission until it pops. Plastic and other parts like sensors go bad with heat exhaustion. Not the kind of heat you see on the water gauge on the dash. The gradual heat from extended service, The I can't remember when kind of heat that only comes from the heart while no real service records are kept or thought about as long as the car seems fine. It's not fine people. its the loss of years driving from excessive wear. Add those car payments up. Most in America don't know service intervals and often your lied to about them from those wanting you to believe they sell a super car. The GM at a Toyota dealer said they recommended 10k mile oil changes. I said to his face " Sure you do, Your in the sales business not the ownership business" Their mismanaged garage had me back 3 out of 5 times for something left unfinished. I'm sure the senior mechanics probably put a lot of abuse onto the new guys. The kinds of stuff left unfinished. No management.
I don't understand why most people talk bad about chinese parts when we all.know if parts were made to last like it should,we wouldn't be replacing them to start.
In a professional business environment you learn _quickly_ that aftermarket parts last far less than OEM, fit worse if it all, and _always_ cause customer drama. It's a huge scam for the uninformed public in being able to buy those inferior low quality parts, which are imported en masse from asia.
You do at times get OEM parts where there is a design flaw, or where the engineers did not anticipate conditions that result in premature failures in the field. But even in those cases, the OEM version of the part will consistently outperform the imported counterfeits, imitations, and copycats in fitment and longevity.
In repairs, DIY is a labor savings on your wallet. It's not about cutting corners on the parts and tools. The OEM part may initially cost more, but even if flawed in design, it will not have to be replaced as often. And will fit without further modifications and get the vehicle back on the road without further drama.
@@DrShock THE SMALL HOSE CONNECTED TO THE THERMOSTAT HOUSING.. HOW IS THIS REPLACED?? 1.4 TURBO SONIC
A plastic water outlet. Seems like a good idea. 🙄 Anyone have any experience with an aluminum replacement?
Zzp has an aluminum outlet for about 30 bucks
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sure sold then a hose for no reason
Can you say that in Chinese 😮
I have to thank you once again my friend for such a wonderful breakdown and assembly video. You got me through this feeling like a pro. And thanks for the links you are a true blessing.