2023 Chevrolet Corvette C8 Z06 vs 2024 McLaren 750S - Head to Head Review!
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- The McLaren 750S is outrageously fast with its twin-turbo 4.0L V8, carbon monocoque, and clever hydraulically linked suspension. But is the British supercar really worth twice the price of the 8600 rpm, all-American Corvette C8 Z06 with Z07 package?
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I've never seen zygrene so tense on acceleration. You can tell the amount of G's he's feeling on pull
Frankly, I've never cared for anything that I probably wont ever drive but I can appreciate the engineering of both cars
Yeah, like a Cybertruck 😂
The better comparison would be the C8 ZR1. The Z06 isn't in the same league. It sounds better though.
My friend is a mechanic at a McLaren dealership. He says they're junk, incredibly unreliable and expensive to fix, with terrible fit & finish right from the manufacturer. I suspect he's being a little harsh, obviously when they're running right they are magical. I'll take the C8 Z06 Z07 and spend the savings on track time, or maybe just wait for the C8 ZR1 to come out.
Absolutely the c8 sounds to me much better!
We have 3 mclarens and they have all been perfect. Any car can have issues so mechanics deal with those. I have multiple friends who work on mclarens and other exotics and they say they're all comparable. We've had more issues with every other marque we've had and I know tons of mclaren owners who have 0 issues
@@720sobsessed6 that may be, but there are interviews with McLaren mechanics who have said different things… But I’m sure as with any other brand there are trouble children and there are not. The question is what are the frequency of the trouble children and we just don’t know that. But the thing is if you talk to owners, they only have experience with their car, whereas mechanics have a lot of experience with a lot of cars. So I would rank the word of mechanics hire just because they have more experience in that department, and we do not have any own surveys which would kind of equalize it out.
@markw9512 all I know is I did a mclaren track day with 35 owners last year. All the way from 12cs to p1s, out of the 35 34 had 0 issues since buying the car, one artura needed the battery replaced which plagues all hybrid supercars right now unfortunately. We have more mclarens than any other marque and we've had more issues with every other marque
@@720sobsessed6 I believe you, but I don’t think the mechanics who have reported that they are problematic and that McLaren isn’t particularly helpful to its owners when they do break or also being honest, so YMMV which is good, but others have not been so fortunate. Unfortunately we don’t have access to any owners surveys to give us actual data, which is a shame because you may be correct, they may be getting a bad wrap, just don’t know.
Although not the most feedback rich nor fun to drive, few if any production cars beats Z06 in terms of performance per $. And the engine… just the sound from heaven.
And it’s a Corvette, so Chevrolet will make and sell as many as possible, meaning in a few years you’ll be able to pick up heavily depreciated ones. You can already find lightly used Z06 down around $100k. These just wait a few more years and get the best bargain supercar ever.
Feedback is good actually.Not sure why you said that.McLarens are junk.They are always breaking down and expensive to fix.I say all this from experience,mine and a few friends.
@@JackieKennedy-cv8el”always breaking down and expensive to fix” have you had a corvette? Shockingly similar experience at times
@@N3rdburgring Corvettes are not perfect but they're just as reliable as any old Chevy, plenty of them running around with 250k+ miles. McLarens have a reputation for holding up to the "hand built British sport car" stereotype for reliability
@@brandonsever2576 McLaren is absolutely one of the worst for quality control forsure but to act like corvettes past and present weren’t heavily flawed cars full of compromises for end user price’s sake that aren’t expensive to fix is just fallacy (not that it was you anyway)
I guess you get what you pay for with each of these cars. In a world of unlimited money, sure would go for Mclaren. But the appeal of the Z06 (or Porsche GT cars) is the “affordable” price.
A Porsche GT car isn't "affordable". You will be paying more for a used GT3 RS than you would for a brand new McLaren 750s. If you wanna buy a new GT car and actually get an allocation before they are sold out before launch, you need to have a lot of previous Porsche cars and be one of their returning customers.
@@Unicornpirategt4 used gt3
@@evano8312 Depends on how many miles and the year but you won't find those for under 150k
Can anyone say ZR1
Turning the AC on to keep the cameras cool 😂😂. Very good review as usual!
The Z06 sounds much better and the interior is nicer too... Put the right tires on a Z06 and try again.
The amount of hurt the Z06/Z07 has put down in terms of lap times has been absolutely astonishing, even beating out the 992 GT3 RS twice, and one of those times being in convertible form. Being one of the fastest production track cars ever built, whilst still being N/A is just insane. McLarens have some of the best steering feel in the business, but I would absolutely take a 2LZ Z07 over a Mac, if given the choice of only having one.
Having that level of performance while also having a massive breadth of ability is invaluable to me, personally. I can only imagine what the ZR1 with 1,064 horsepower is going to do if the Z06 already shreds the track as much as it does.
I totally agree! He even stated the tires were mismatched on the Z06 with aftermarket wheels. I’m sure that plays somewhat of a role in how the steering feels.
@@fasttime823 Oh definitely. Had the car been left with its Cup 2 Rs, or even a set of PS4S rubber, the steering would’ve been improved. C8s have fairly light steering with not too much feedback as a whole, but mismatched tires just expound that certainly. The car should’ve just been quick to steer, not nervous.
The Z06 always put the hurt on higher priced sports cars, super sports cars and super cars. Ever since the C5 Z06. It's always been the car for bang for your buck performance.
@@Unicornpirate Indeed!
Imagine what the zr1 will do
Just wanna say I love your channel Zygrene 😊 You’re probably the only automotive youtuber I never tire of watching hehe.
@@whitegr86 thanks for the support!
Got the Z06 Z07 in June. The car does feel nervous on corner entry. You are absolutely right. I am actually going to swap the Cup 2R tires for 4S tires just to make it a little less edgy. Real world price gap: my fully loaded ZO6 was $188k. My heavy MSO 750s (should be here in October) is $652. So, it is almost 3.5X.
what do u do?
Got my Z07 in march. Immediately swapped my cup 2s for 4s. It hugs the road very well. However this is my initial entry into sports cars 😂. Recs for the nxt level car from here?
The ZO6 is obviously insane, would have one any day over so many great cars. But the 750S is clearly a whole other level above. The price is nuts, can’t afford either. But I’d take the McLaren every time. Great review!
with the 750s replacement being hybrid I’d imagine it will address the turbo lag issue… hopefully without too much weight gain… sounds like it would be perfect
Turbo lag is solved I don’t know why McClaren didn’t do it. Electric spun up turbos eliminate lag and there’s no need for waste gates
You make some really quality content!
It’s crazy a corvette is even being compared to. True supercar! The big advantage companies like McClaren, Lambo, Ferrari and Porsche have over Chevy is the chassis! Chevy can’t afford to create a fiber, Rigid chassis and still offer the car at an affordable price! Chevy are losing in the weight department the C8 platform is much heavy compared to the big dogs, if money was no problem McLaren all day but for the price nothing is beating the new C8s wait until the ZR1 comes out!
Yeah the zr1 is a different kind of beast it's gonna kill it
And yet you can see the ugly C8 chassis everywhere
I would argue the opposite... Based upon the volumes of the Corvette; I would say they could afford a carbon fiber chassis especially with modern (significantly more efficient) production techniques. Just look at what BMW was doing with carbon fiber on the i3 and i8.
@@objectivethinker3225they can afford it but it will make the car more expensive is my point, that chassis is expensive that’s why cars with it are usually expensive as well
They aren't "losing" even without a carbon chasis the Z06 lap times are significantly better than the more expensive competitors. Is what it is
It would be so cool if they made an NA McLaren. Just for the driving feel, forget the numbers. I know that's not the McLaren ethos but it would be very compelling. The combination of the lightweight chassis and high-revving NA power would be unbeatable.
McLaren F1
Having driven a 12C and having owned lots of forced induction sports cars, McLaren's turbo engines sound the best out of any turbo engine I've heard. That's because they are flat plane crank V8s (like the 458 and C8Z06) and rev pretty high for being turbo engines - 8400rpm.
To me its alll about the feel the z06 def punches up above its weight class but. Mclaren is just miles different int erms of connection to the road and the 750 takes this to another level
Another thing to note is the actual paddle shifts in the z06 are awful plastic feeling compared to Mclaren’s rocker panel with the preloded gearing and ratios from the 765
Well articulated explanation of these two of incredibly engineered and designed sports/super cars. Not surprised you declared this the best thing you’ve driven. Specs aside I can almost feel through the screen the level of feedback and sensations you are describing about the 750. Great work.
@@MikesLARE I'm still tingling weeks after the drive. What a car.
18:55 my clapped out 2005 250k Toyota Tacoma X-Runner
Your famous, bro
Where? I don't see it?
@@scottcolpitts8521🤔🤷🏽♂️
Your clapped out girl lol 😂
As a car enthusiast I always look forward to your reviews. I would never be able to afford either one of these masterpiece’s and its a pleasure to see them be compared.
Z06 starts at $104k, even with the z07 package it wont pass $160k
Dealer markups push the price higher than $160,000.
There’s one at local Chevy dealer by me on showroom floor that guy backed out of …..$174k MSRP and it’s a coupe not convertible. That’s the manufacturers MSRP not with markup so definitely can go well beyond $160k, I’m thinking easily into upper $180’s considering convertible alone is $7k
the four i've seen at dealers have all been $160-184k. No one on Earth has got a 0 mile z06 for $104k lol
You can absolutely spec a Z06 to $180K
@@danieldickerson4838I just tried to spec the convertible as high as I could and hit about $174k without destination. Either some of these cars have dealer installed accessories that aren’t available to spec online, or they’re marked up and people are mistaking MSRP with the markup price.
First time I saw Zygreen keeping on wiping his sweats.
@@richardly438 both cars are butt puckering full throttle experiences
Is it the only 2 UK brands McLaren and Lotus who offer hydraulic power steering in 2024? No one else?
I'm not aware of any others
@drdoomskywalker1731 I was surprised when I got my evora gt but the mclarens steering Is leagues ahead of it which I wasn't expecting at all
If you could find someone that was able to import a lotus exile with a 475 Komotec kit that'd be great to see!
Correction-Exige
Is burnishing carbon ceramic brakes a thing? Does it take more than the 8-10 stops (60 to 5mph) it takes for steel rotors? Just go bed those brakes in, shouldn’t take more than a few minutes..
Burnishing carbon ceramics is a thing, yes.
*I wish someone would make an aftermarket round steering wheel for the C8 Corvette, what's was wrong with round steering wheels? , good thing Porsche still offers normal round steering wheels*
I never hear anybody complained about the steering wheel that came OEM in the Ferrari and Enzo or another Ferrari that was flat on the bottom and square Ish on the top. And the fact is, it really doesn’t hinder the driving experience very much, I mean look at what Formula One guys make do with. Just a nitpick in my view from people who have never driven it
@@markw9512Formula 1 max steering angle is 360º so null point. Round steering wheel is just better.
@@Kumoiwa so why did Ferrari not use round ones in their ultimate car, the Enzo, along with multiple other cars? Do they suck?
@@markw9512 The Enzo was a special car they wanted to make it look like an F1. But F1 steering and road car steering are worlds apart. All other road Ferraris have roundish wheels.
@@Kumoiwa not true, look at the 458. And I don’t give a shit what the reason was, that’s just a red herring from you. the point is, they did it. And you aren’t saying they suck for it. So shut up about the C8 then, hypocrite
See the evolution of your content has been awesome
@@anthonylee14 watching my videos from 2015 is... something else
I’m so happy to finally see a CZcamsr push this car to the redline. Almost everyone who shows themselves driving the c8 zo6 shifts at like 6k rpm like it’s the base stingray.
I was lucky enough to buy a Z06 HTC
The car is really amazing
The engine and sound are world class
I'm in love with my car ❤
Don’t forget that roll cage in the McLaren. That stiffens things up!
Also, I wonder if the custom camber settings in the front of the c8 make a difference with the steering feel and uneasy feel at the beginning of corners?
Thanks for the video. Great comparison. Such a pity modern Mclaren don't offer a proper NA option. And a manual, too. The chassis and steering quality with a proper driver's car powertrain would be incredible. A modern Mclaren with an engine like that in the Corvette would be the ultimate. As it is, the massive power and imprecise delivery of the Mclaren engine, plus the compulsory paddles are a deal breaker. The car is set up to be as fast as possible, but that's very different from being as rewarding as possible.
Always thought they were missing a trick there given the heritage being the F1 with its NA V12. Would be something to differentiate between series perhaps as otherwise they can appear quite samey
@@gazman9468 even their Can-Am heritage just buy some V8's from Chevy like back in the day and run it in their chassis and make it look like a real car not another spaceship with more boost cuz that's all they know now, their whole lineup is basically the same car just with different tunes, on one hand it's amazing engineering but on the other it's also lazy engineering.
Thank you for being an amazing motorsport auto reviewer. Reviewers with a motorsport background are more relevant to what I like in a vehicle than the typical mainstream reviewer.
Using aftermarket tires & wheels on Z06 is a Bad Idea
Mismatched tires with a track alignment and it feels "nervous". Haha
Yeah -2º of camber and wondering why is so aggressive 🤔
All that and to not bed in the brakes yet 😂
which tires did it have?
I love the Zo6 because unless you’re a car enthusiast it’s hard to tell it’s anything other than a Corvette
Comparing a mass produced yank tank, against a hand built masterpiece of engineering 🙄
See which one depreciates the most in 5 years 👍
No contest. 750S is 600 lbs lighter, way better aerldynamically, 80-90 hp more and just a better looking car
The 750s has a lot more than 80-90bhp more, McLaren's usually make the advertised power at the wheels not the crank like other brands. Theres countless dyno runs of the 720s making 690-710bhp power at the wheels (~780-800 crank hp). Brooks of DragTimes fame dyno'd his 765LT which made 769bhp at the wheels so approx 885bhp at the crank. This is why they all put in such incredible numbers and how the 765LT is doing 9.3s in the 1/4 at ~155mph.
Sorry but the corvette looks a lot better
@@proraptor4146 no need to apologise, looks are entirely subjective and differences of opinion will occur.
I love the honest feedback on how the cars drive when being pushed hard and most importantly how they compare to others cars. Having a consistent track to test them on (the canyon) is very important. This is one of my favorite car review channels and probably the one I trust the most
For $370K the McLaren should repel bigs from the front bumper. You get used to the C8’s wall of buttons and it’s not a big deal
that new V8 flat-plane sounds exactly like a Ferrari 458
No, they’re different. They do sound similar, but definitely not identical.
The Corvette Z06 is so good you have to compare with cars 2 to 3 times the value to beat it.
You should compare ZR1 vs 750s
No comparison
Price will be comparable C8 ZR1 will be 300k with markups. 1064hp ZR1 will spank the 750s on the top end.
I drive a c8. McLaren all day if i was offered both for free and you offered free maintenance, warranty etc for my ownership.
It would be really interesting to see more comparisons of the new C8 Z06 with used exotics in the same price range!
Neither of these are Miata’s tho
Think you mentioned 19 inch wheels were on the z06? Could be hurting the steering feel a bit. Tires are quite wide and may need atleast 20s to get more of the road feedback
All of the reviews make mention the Z06 has great steering but the 720s/750s/765LT is in a different league for feel and input. Not too surprising given McLaren's incredible suspension and hydrolic steering, plus the cars carbon monocoque chassis.
I'm confused about the feedback. I've heard that before from reviewers but I have a C8 and in track mode there is so much feedback. The touring mode is like a Lexus but man the track mode is fantastic.
Comparing a car that costs twice the price then declaring g it better is just dumb.
Not really! That's what corvettes are about. beating supercars.
I get car availability and all but this is one of those times when one of those gt3/gt4 regularly featured on the channel would have been a more apt comparison.
Twice the price I get, this is nearly a 3 times the price especially comparing a base z06 to a base McLaren.
Ps -also wonder how much the non oem tires contributed to the lack of feel.
Right on the money! Exactly how I feel as well having driven many McLarens and Porsche GT cars, Ferraris and Lambos. McLaren feedback, chassi, ergonomics and steering is on another level vs anything out there, especially on 675LT, 600LT, 765LT and 750S! They are the ultimate drivers supercars, modern era F40's!
You had the wrong tires, the Conti ECS tires have very soft sidewalls. Those tires give 0 steering feel.
@@AllIsWell_22 the fronts were ECF. Rears were ECS
They have stiffer sidewalls and more feel than Michelin PS4S.
Should drive one on factory rubber. It’s tuned for that.
@@kyletice811Agreed. The balance and oversteering nature is probably more tires than not.
People tend to underestimate tires , but they are one of the most important. They can greatly affect understeer/oversteer balance.
Soft sidewall tires just suck all around. I HATED the Cup 2’s that come on my GT4. So soft. The car is 100% sharper, more direct and confident inspiring when I moved to both SC3 and Yoko AD09’s.
Also remember that ALL C8 Corvette OEM tires are run flats , this by default gives them a much stiffer sidewalls.
ECF sucks. GY SC3 would be ideal for the car. I like them better than cup2. ECS02 is my favorite wet tire hands down.
I'm still choosing the 750s every single day. The problem is being able to afford one 😂
Ok but you could buy 2 to 3 cars for a collection or one mclearn . Than a mclearn out of warranty if a hudge mess . They always act up .
@@krisi.2011 I got a 2015 650s and it hasn't act up once yet 🙏🏽
@Emadavid that's great news . I hope you have great luck with it my next car is gonna be a 720 or 675 depends at the time I am hoping in 2 years
My takeaway from this review is that you've validated: with each of these two cars, you definitely get what you paid for!
If you're playing the Zygrene video game, our boy just leveled up
Great review and breakdown of both cars.
The new GT2RS coming in 2026 will be monster can’t wait to order one
@@joshuapounds7646 you drive a Volkswagen GTI and you’re gonna have us believe that you’re gonna order a GT2 RS? 😂
@@markw9512like seriously lol i had that in early 2020 sold it the same year i own a cayman GT4 now i have a better job smh 🤦🏼♂️
@@joshuapounds7646 Mmm hmmm…. and yet you have no videos posted of it, weird… So a GTI was worth filming but a GT4 was not?? And even if you do on a GT4, it costs about 1/5 the price of a 2RS, *and* Porsche just doesn’t sell those cars to anyone off the street… There’s a process to go through, you have to buy multiple cheaper Porsches to even get on the list for one, so unless you’re a CEO who has a garage full of Porsches, you ain’t getting one.
That doesn't sound like a fair comparison. First, the Corvette Z mode was adjusted to another guy's liking. Every complaint you had was an adjustment that he had made, steering set to medium, Brakes not burnished in, steering set to medium and camber adjustments modified, smaller wheels ,different tires.
The McLaren is extremely lighter, carbon stiff tub.
And twin turbo And twice is expensive.
Match that against the ZR1 turbo for turbo.
So theZ06 is running an alignment in excess of the recommended track alignment. This will make the car twitchy when not fully loading the chassis which you’re not able to do on the road.
The C8 ZO6 steering is electric, not directly connected to the front wheels like the previous are, thus the wired steering feel. I can’t afford a ZO6, but if I could I’d get one. And road trips can be made due to the shortage areas.
Heck yea we got the z06 on the channel! I already know this is gonna be good
Thanks for an especially special comparison review! The Z06, as always, is the bang-for-buck champ but your effusiveness for the McLaren says it all. Kudos to the boys in Woking!
Have you driven the Jesko - how's it compare to the McLaren
I've never even sat in a Koenigsegg. Hopefully some day soon.
The car does not apply full boost until the tire/wheel is completely straight. That may have something to do with the turbo lag or what felt like turbo lag.
Man idk what it is but I could just feel how great that car must feel just through watching this video
Which rides better or more comfortable in normal driving? The z06 has to be good at that too. How about practically? Reviews tend to leave that info out. Thanks
For the z you need to have in track mode or atleast turn the steering to the highest setting in z mode for proper feedback. I can see on the dash it’s in the middle. Middle and low setting is way too soft.
So happy you said the 750s makes Porsche GT cars seem like a joke. There are other great cars to drive.
It's the truth I don't get how nobody sees that, gt cars are great at what they do, but it's not comparison
You can't beat carbon fiber chassis
GT cars can drive around the track all day & night at redline in any temperature with an instant throttle response + linear power curve whilst retaining factory warranty in fact my local Porsche dealer is constantly inviting me to their track days for local and interstate events, I didn't get this type of encouragement from my local McLaren dealer when I had the 600LT
If you want brute power and handling go test drive a 991 GT2RS....name a road legal McLaren that is faster than this around Nordschleife?
Saying that in my group of friends the GT2RS is the scariest to hve fun on on the street, the turbo S a little too boring but the GT3 wins in the smiles per miles hands down without needing warp straight line speed...I thought it was all hype until a friend was selling his GT3 so i thought let me try it & can confirm I don't miss the McLaren turbo power train
@adjrasta9365 that's very dealer centric. My dealer had me bring the car in they looked at it for 30 secs and certified it for the track. What mclaren is faster on the nurburgring? None, because none have been there. Watch a video of a Porsche nurburgring time, the interior of the car is completely stripped out, there's a race car driver at the helm and a full crew spending says for the perfect lap, same with lambo. Do you really think the svj is faster than every ferrari/mclaren around the nurburgring? The 720 did a 7:06 with an autosport driver going out to do a lap and that's the fastest lap recorded for a 720. That's not apple to apples, look up a 720 vs a 991.2 gt3 rs lap times, u will get a list of every track recorded and see how close it is.
Love me the c8 zo6 ❤ that engine and power is awesome 🤩. I can’t wait for the ZR1 1064 hp in 2025. 😮😮😮
I'm curious - Why are people watching his channel? I'm not sure anyone would want to take his advice or opinion on someone that I don't feel has the capabilities to drive a supercar correctly. He was sprint on the straight and then panicking in the corner. Please share what I'm missing with this reviewer?
I think the C8 ZR-1 is a better car to compare to the 750s on power to weight and higher price tag
The thing is that a Z06 here in Europe is not much cheaper than a Lambo Huracan Technica.
I think the Z06 is only good value i US.
You even have to import it to most countries so it loses the value proposition
Corvette finally pushing forward. Hope they never lose that dependability.
First time watching one of your videos. I really appreciate the fact that you put the cars through their paces even though we don’t see the speed. We see the gear and we’re seeing the performance in real world conditions. You cannot beat the Z06 in terms of performance for the money. Hands-down, there is nothing on this planet that comes close for the price. That’s the way Corvette has always been. The fact that it’s even being compared to McLaren says everything. The Brits have had about 25 years of creating McLaren perfection. That’s hard for anybody to beat. But Just wait, 2030 Z06 beats anything at any price.
I do hope that the 2030 Z06 can beat other supercars but it's worth pointing out how far the engineering will need to advance to not only catch-up but surpass the likes of McLaren. The other element would be the 2030 Z06 would likely have to cost a huge amount to beat the competition. If you look at the likes of McLaren's carbon monocoque chassis as an example, you can see how much cost is required to create these components that can provide the best possible Z06. If they aim to beat anything at any price, the Z06 will need to be at the same price point as the market leaders like the McLaren 7x cars.
I think the biggest Achilles heel of both of these cars has to be the looks for me. They are both technical marvels and extremely proficient, but I find neither particularly attractive. I’d give it to the Vette just based on value, but my heart would pull me in another direction entirely if I was in the market for a super car.
Interesting comparo. In the end, the Z06 is, IMHO, the better car for the money, especially when you consider that it does, in my estimation, 95% of the McLaren. As it has NO engine lag, it's easier to predict and work on a fast winding road. Turbo lag sucks. Driving therefore becomes smoother, easier to predict placement on the road and allows the driver to go at it harder w/less planning due to no turbo lag. It's also a hell of a lot easier in maintenance, which puts a smile on your face vs. a scowl due to exorbitant prices for R/R on the 750S. The Z06 is THE winner here. Also, this guy does not have any credentialed driver experience, so his opinion is moot.
Ferrari 296 GTB is more a contender for the McLaren?Love to see a video on 296 tho.
@@romaan843 I'd love to experience the 296. I love how it looks.
Price points are night and day. Two completely different companies
Engine swap the 750s with a LT6 V8 and you have the perfect supercar?
Absolutely not. The M840T is an incredible engine, it was originally created by Nissan for their Le Mans race car. The engines are built by the legendary Ricardo who produce many world class engines for various motorsport worldwide series. The engines in the 7 series cars are incredible, very light (170kg) and capable of far more power (downpipes and tune and it will make over 1000bhp). The sound is also fantastic in real life but they never sound great on CZcams videos but with that said the LT6 makes incredible noises. Both fantastic engines in different ways but the LT6 would likely make the 7x McLaren's a worse car.
@@LeeXRV objectively a worse car, but subjectively? I have heard both in real life, the LT6 does sound better. Can’t get away from turbos muffling the sound of that V8.
@@n9athan to add a LT6 to the 750s it would need to be supercharged anyway to my mind as the 750s has a huge amount of extra power over the NA LT6, what do we think the ZR1 will sound like?
@@LeeXRV ZR1 also sounds muffled unfortunately
If the z06 has the same steering ratio as base c8 then I love that steering ratio for cornering
Mclaren need to put a high reving NA motor, manual trans 400 hp. Ultimate drivers car.
180k for an American made car is wild
I mean the zo6 had after market wheels and tires which downgraded the driving experience
Wheels and tires drastically improved street driving experience vs the factory Cup 2Rs
345/30r20 on 13's and 285/35r19 on 10.5's are the ideal track as well as street size, just that 395mm front rotors are the maximum for safe caliper clearance.
For the price of the Mc, I can get the Z06, a Mustang Darkhorse and a GMC AT4x.
i thought 296 gts is better or close to mclaren 750. those short gears are awesome on street ans going straight. on track i hope those shifts are shift as it will shift often. i track a c8z and sometimes the shift scare me as the rough shifting i am afraid will break loose the back end
l like that you say 750s make those gt3 gt4 a joke. i have same feeling when i drive 720s at the same time i own v12ferrari v8lambo 997.1tt 900kit some sti cosworth 600hp
I would like to think that the continental tires really decreased the corner entry confidence on the Z06, some proper tires would really do it justice. Nice vid!
I like that these vehicles are being compared. Respect for GM and the Chevrolet Corvette Z06.
I wonder why the owner swapped the Carbon wheels for Alu.
can i take the older zr1 just for looks
Amazing review as always. Just a suggestion given I think you have the best reviews on CZcams for real enthusiasts. You have a very unique perspective given your driver focus and amount of performance cars driven. It would be great to get comparisons of the car dynamics if you can make them. For example you highlight the engine note vs the 458, which is helpful. You also noted the corner entry feel and lack of steering feedback. Really curious if you can draw any parallels to cars like the alpha chassis Camaro steering (dead feeling) or maybe the cayman (turn it), or whatever you think the cars cars compare to. Feel free to totally ignore me as well. Great job again
Price for price the ZR1 would be more comparable. But obviously isn’t out yet
The new zr1 is on another level. And the c7 zr1 is pretty amazing
It's too bad Chevy couldn't shave 600 pounds off of the C8 Z06. Never understood why chevy's vehicles are heavier than most of its competitors.
Because at their price point a carbon fiber tub is simply not in the cards. And they managed to put in exceptionally fast laptops even with the extra weight, so not that big of a deal.
@markw9512 it's a very big deal. Look at the difference between chevy's rwd C8 , Ford's rwd MK IV , and McLaren's rwd 765lt. Ford and McLaren out eccellerate the Chevy no matter what is done . Look at the top speed on the C8 Z06, 195 mph , vs the Gt3rs or the audi naturally aspirated V10 R8 , 205 with less power and torque. Weight is a big deal
@@g4do Firstly: the Z06 is not designed to have fastest possible top end. It IS designed to be a track car with excellent performance on race tracks, and to that end has aggressive aero designed to give it more downforce for better high speed cornering. This accomplished by increasing aerodynamic drag on the car to generate this downforce, which also lowers top speed.
This is true in Porsche GT3 RS as well. Its top speed with 520 horsepower is 184 mph at 3200 pounds. The 992.1 2022 911 GTS weighs 3399 pounds and with 467 horsepower topped out at 193 mph. So despite being about 200 pounds heavier and down 53 horsepower, the GTS is 9 mph faster at top speed. Because it, unlike the GT3 and GT3 RS, does not have high-downforce aero all over it. Same with GT3 Touring model, which is a GT3 without all of the aero bits. Top speed: 197 mph, with 20 less hp than the GT3 RS and 130 pounds heavier. Oh, what a difference aerodynamics doth maketh.
The top speed of the 2023 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 varies slightly depending on whether it is equipped with the Z07 Performance Package:
• Without Z07 Package: The top speed is approximately 195 mph. (Note that even without the Z07 package, the car still has aggressive aero which limits top speed, the Z06 is just more so:)
• With Z07 Package: The top speed is slightly lower due to the increased aerodynamic downforce, typically around 189 mph.
The Z07 package includes performance enhancements such as upgraded brakes, aerodynamic components, and track-focused tires, which improve handling and braking at the expense of a slight reduction in top speed.
Audi R8 V10 Plus tops out at 205. Weighs the SAME as a C8 Z06 but does not have high-downforce aero as w/Z06 or GT3 RS. Which is why both of them kill it around a racetrack. Put comparable aero bits on it and it would be slower at top end, simple as that. Physics is physics.
Ford GT weighs 3381 pounds, 280 less than Z06 and tops out at 215, but it has extremely sophisticated active aero, which will increase drag for cornering but lower it for high speed. It also cost a half million, assuming you could actually get a Ford dealership to sell you one when it was still being sold.
And just for giggles, to prove my point about aero, let’s take a look at the 2006 BMW E60 M5. This car weighed 4110 pounds and had a 500 hp V10. According to BMW, if the speed limiter was removed this vehicle would run at 205 mph. Also from the same era, which I know because I owned one, the Mercedes CLS 55 AMG was available with a performance package, which mine had, which raised limited top speed from 155 mph to 189 mph (300 km/h). And it weighed about 4200 pounds. The weight of the Z06 has zero to do with its top speed limitation. It is limited by design, with aero for high-speed cornering during track use.
The fact is, aerodynamics of a vehicle play a larger role in top speed than you seem to believe it does. The drag force on a vehicle increases with the square of its speed. So to counter this, to get a very very high speed, you need high horsepower and very low aerodynamic drag. But, if you have very low aerodynamic drag, the vehicle will not perform as well on a race track because it will not stick to the tarmac as well at high speed. It is a trade-off.
How often do you drive at 200+ mph? How often do you go around corners fast? I would submit that the cornering is more important in this application.
@@markw9512 - the weight is a huge deal and is what handicaps the Z06 more than anything else. Its unachievable to get to the McLaren lightness at the current price point but if they could save weight, it would make a world of difference. As Colin Chapman famously said "Adding power makes you faster on the straights. Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere"
@@LeeXRV I’m sorry, but have you seen the lap times the Z06 is putting down?? If not please let me know and I’ll be happy to post them for you, because you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. The only cars that are beating this car are ones that have far more horsepower than it with the one exception being the GT 3RS on certain tracks, which is because it has about 3000 pounds of downforce. if you take that downforce advantage away, as with the regular GT3, it loses to the Z06 despite being almost 500 pounds lighter. It just cracks me up how many of you guys will sit there and spout off crap about weight without having a single solitary clue of what times the Z06 has been putting down at tracks all around the world. Educate yourself.
The steering is not bad, this car is faster than the Porsche 992 gT3 on many tracks. Its the tires, ore its difficult to drive what is not the same than a bad steering. On the track the z066 is faster
You should lower the McLaren's front end lift on the nose to nose comparison images. A great review though!
The new upcoming ZR1 will be interesting, extreme power but might dilute the experience. Yes McLaren make superb driving cars but the build quality is not great.
You’re steering opinion on the Z06 is low because of the heavier wheels and the tires if it was on the carbon wheels and cup 2r’s I’m willing to bet your opinion would change
Bro you are living the dream! Keep em coming!
Is that Tokyo cyan it looks greenish, or is it fistral blue?
Wish Chevy would go with smoother lines. The ZO6 is so good. The only real compromise is it's so over the top looking. Otherwise, it's your practical supercar that you can rely on daily and at the track to keep you smiling. Make mine a silver coup.
Sounds like their performance engineering and execution are about even. You prefer the steering and feedback better in the S but it has turbo lag and doesn’t sound as charismatic and opulent as the ZO6’s V8 with zero lag. Ride quality and comfort is also even. They’re even up until you look at the price and then the Corvette seems like a lawyer and the other manufacturer seems like a criminal.
You can actually spec the z07 for less than 150k if you didn't have the convertible and all of the interior upgrades.