I’d say there’s a 0.1% chance Peugeot or the teams shared any CAD files, drawings etc for this car. For VRC to replicate this car, down to the tiniest details so perfectly from pictures and videos is unreal. Nobody does it better.
The Peugeot easily surpasses anything else I've ever driven in a sim let alone AC. Visually, physically, and functionally, this car is a masterpiece. Bump starting out of the Le Mans pits is just so immersive. Not even the iRacing LMDhs hold a flame to this. I know the Ferrari is next, but I really hope they come out with a Cadillac for that glorious V8 bump start.
The holes over the tyres are to release air pressure from around the wheel in the wheel arch. This is to help stop the car lifting up at the front and causing airbourne crashes. They was introduced in prototype cars around 2011/2012. Apparently Peugeot will release their next prototype with a "proper" wing. Keep up the great content you produce.
Actually front wheel arch pressure ventilators (the technical term from back in the day) were introduced all the way back in the late 60s. The Dodge Daytona and Plymouth Superbird had them in '69 and '70. If you ask a boomer why they're there, they will usually tell you the tired myth that the Daytona and Superbird "made so much downforce that the tires rubbed on the top of the inside wheel arch." Nobody except Chrylser's aerodynamicists understood it at the time, but it is purely to reduce the accumulation of lift (via turbulent air) in the front wheel arch.
@@jonredcorn862 It was more about the sudden BoP and change of rules that made the car not as good from what I've heard, and not having a rear wing didn't let them change the car settings the way they wanted to. Having a rear wing will let them change the incidence of the wing and let them balance it correctly
The maximum stint energy, engine power, etc is all bop stuff. If you look at recent IMSA/WEC bop tables you'll see those terms used and how it differs per car. Useful for leagues or LFM in this case
I've only driven it for about an hour but yes, its very hard to get this car to rotate but exiting turns it really puts the power down. I got about the same times with vanilla and CSP version so if you don't love tinkering you can just jump into the vanilla car and have some fun.
BOP minimum speed refers to the minimum speed at which you can use the MGUK because that’s a real life part of the WEC regulations. Depending on certain factors there are specific speeds where if under that you cannot use MGUK power if in an LMH car like this. (The LMDh cars in WEC do not fall under this rule as their hybrid systems are different) Also maximum stint energy refers to another regulation in WEC in order to keep the cars balanced. 👍😃
Great review as always. Just a slight correction. Louvered fenders and the cutout on top of the wheel is to let air escape as early as possible from the wheel well. Its not really related to brake cooling.
Great video Mike. I downloaded this and once I’d gotten over the terror of installing the mod and the extended controls app…well, what else can I say. It’s awesome.
So I just started watching your channel, you have been nothing but good to me thus far lol. Took your advice on this car...never really raced these classes and MAN IS THIS THING A BLAST! Thanks for the good call on this thing. Man is it good! you just picked up a new sub btw!
The MJ limit is something WEC/IMSA defines due to stint limits. Like how much energy total they can use over a stint rather than just energy use per lap. And its combined energy, electric and ICE.
i would expect the Glickenhaus would make its appearance anytime soon.. even though they arent around for this season (presumably) Definitely waiting for the 499P
Great video once again Mike. Definitely curious to take a look into this car. Unrelated question, but will you be covering the new AMS 2 prototypes too? Would love to know your opinion.
Good God!.... this car transmits great steering feel. Every single detail is communicated. My Moza R9 relays the curbing and track undulation at Mugello...and every other place for that matter like never before. As to understeer...If you see two-thirds of any apex before turn in, you are guaranteed to be off track. Don't even bother trying to get back on at that point...ain't happening. The car requires the driver to be exceptionally greedy with curbs. You must take big, big bites to get it around a corner.
Great review Mike. You always give great reviews and I respect your opinion. I would love to know what you think of the current situation with Fanatec and their lack of customer service.
Isn't this car, like, one of the most underperforming cars on the WEC grid? Good addition to RSS's BMW M and URD's Glickenhaus SCG007, but already people tend to overrate it.
Hi Mike, did you have to change any FFB settings? The non-CSP version feels normal to me, but the CSP version wants to rip my arms off. Am I doing something wrong?
Im reading that from a few people. I didn’t have to change anything personally, but it might not be a bad idea to map buttons to the FFB Strength +/-. Definitely don’t want to ruin your experience with this car because of bad force feedback!
When you display the car why do you use the F7 freeroam function? It’s really difficult to use for this. Just use the F5 function where you are centered around the car and it’s super easy to show things and navigate around the car.
I am on CSP 1.79p5 and i want to still stay there. Obviously i can`t use the CSP Version of the car. I do not need any special features BUT i would like to know if the car physics is same as the regular version ? TiA
ok plz correct me if I'm wrong, they not letting mods to be made for ACC, so these guys (and probably others) putting in a lot of work into mods for a 10 yo game? I checked their page really good cars for a fair price! so what's going on with ACC, is its format encrypted or what? thx for the video btw 🍻
@jelly8594 there should be 2 versions of the car, regular and a CSP version with all the fancy bells and whistles. Extended physics is usually for the weather/rain physics and isnt needed to utilize the CSP version of the car.
Hi Mike. Great in-depth video as always. I have a few questions for you if I may. 1) can you load this car using Content Manager or do you have to load this manually in the AC root directory? 2) I know you said this is the best feeling car you’ve ever driven. Is this even better than the VRC Formula Alpha 23? I know they are in different categories but would appreciate your thoughts here. Thank you!
Thanks for watching! 1) you should load this car manually; installing using CM can cause issues. 2) I prefer the feel of the Pageau; both are great, but the suspension and road feel of the 9T8 is on another level
Actually it isn't unusual that the car is shooting flames while shifting. The 963 had an onboard at night to the back where the car was basically a flame thrower all night. However the way it is shown in the mirror In-game wasn't really intended, therefore we will update it in a future update.
Bit off topic. Do you think it would ever be possible to "port" ai behavior from one sim to another or is that impossible? AC would be perfect if one could "port" it from AMS2 after the latest update?
I asked this question a couple of years back, and I was told no. I was wondering why AMS2’s AI was so much worse than AMS1’s, and why Reiza didn’t just copy and paste their work from a previous title. My recollection is that the AI is partly shaped around the physics and what the opponent cars should be capable of, so it wouldn’t work to port the AI behaviour unless the physics were identical.
@@SimRacing604 That makes sense. Just one of those things us as sim racers would love to see. I hope AC2 gets that bang on and of course the curbs as well. Keep up the amazing work 👌
It's probably not as easy as adding the wing on. Because the whole car needs to work seamlessly for aero purposes peugeot will probably have changed it quite a bit
The mods may be brilliant, but the underlying game is terrible from a usability standpoint. Menus that don't scale with screen resolution, SO MANY input bugs, and to get it to function at any level at all requires mods. I sincerely hop that AC2 is at least on par with acc, because while the driving is awesome, every other aspect of the game is needlessly bad.
No matter what i do in the set-up i cannot get the hybrid system, MGUK to regenerate even on strat 1, it just goes down and down until empty. Can you or anyone else please explain how to get the MGUK to regen whilst driving with strat 1. Thanks for any advice.
@@Schmawlik I use it when i need the extra kick but only then. Its baffling to just watch it deplete even with no kers use. Other Hyper cars i use do what they are suppose to do. as soon as i hit the brakes or coast other cars regen so i dont know about the new VRC car. Not sure if its related to set up or something to do with the new extended controls.
@@menacegtr 2 things to check for, make sure your KERS Overtake isn’t stuck on all the time due to it being set to “Toggle” mode in Extended Controls, and then try lowering your Torque Split in the setup’s Power Unit tab
@@Schmawlik Thanks for your reply. I will take a look and get back to you. The kers button on hold is interesting, will see if that's an issue. Once again, thanks for your help.
$1.99 sounds a lot more reasonable, maybe even a tad bit below that. I think one reason why the sim racing scene is not blowing up in the U.S. it's because how over priced everything is.. I know people won't like what I'm saying, but it's true. Even Nvidia GPUs had to reduce how much they were pricing them because people finally opened their eyes and realized that this is a complete highway robbery.
@@Eddiea2024 I don’t agree, but I respect your opinion. To me, these cars involve thousands of hours of development, and provide people like me with dozens or even hundreds of hours of entertainment. So I think the price is very fair. And I’ve spoken to mod creators in the past, and they aren’t making huge money. In fact, many of the mods they create lose money.
@Saabjock I'm not whatsoever. There are many developers out here designing cars on AC and giving them out for free. Similar to me, I design sim rigs before someone makes their purchase, and I acrually put the time and effort to help them without them paying me 1 penny. Why do you do that, you ask? It's because I'm doing it for the sim racing community. But greed is out there, and charging $5+ for one car is insane. Like I said before, I know many of you won't agree, keep spending your hard earned money on these people. Eventually, these cars will hit over $20 and only then, people will realize... wait.. we've been duped.
I’d say there’s a 0.1% chance Peugeot or the teams shared any CAD files, drawings etc for this car. For VRC to replicate this car, down to the tiniest details so perfectly from pictures and videos is unreal. Nobody does it better.
Dr Disrespect would disagree
@@michahund4879 😅
@@michahund4879...what?
VRC seeing Peugeot put a spoiler on their 2024 9x8 0.069 seconds after finishing the work on their mod of the wingless 2023 9x8...
The Peugeot easily surpasses anything else I've ever driven in a sim let alone AC. Visually, physically, and functionally, this car is a masterpiece. Bump starting out of the Le Mans pits is just so immersive. Not even the iRacing LMDhs hold a flame to this. I know the Ferrari is next, but I really hope they come out with a Cadillac for that glorious V8 bump start.
I bet VRC does the LMH's, while RSS handles the LMDh's :)
@@jaccovdzaag LMDh's are Hypercars. As are LMH which is probably what you meant.
@@jameshoffa7085You are right. Had a bad night :)
The holes over the tyres are to release air pressure from around the wheel in the wheel arch. This is to help stop the car lifting up at the front and causing airbourne crashes. They was introduced in prototype cars around 2011/2012.
Apparently Peugeot will release their next prototype with a "proper" wing.
Keep up the great content you produce.
It definitely has a wing, it was awful around bumpy tracks where it couldn't keep that nice tight airflow under the car.
Actually front wheel arch pressure ventilators (the technical term from back in the day) were introduced all the way back in the late 60s. The Dodge Daytona and Plymouth Superbird had them in '69 and '70. If you ask a boomer why they're there, they will usually tell you the tired myth that the Daytona and Superbird "made so much downforce that the tires rubbed on the top of the inside wheel arch." Nobody except Chrylser's aerodynamicists understood it at the time, but it is purely to reduce the accumulation of lift (via turbulent air) in the front wheel arch.
Not just introduce, I think that they became mandatory to reduce the chance of a car flipping over during a crash.
@@jonredcorn862 It was more about the sudden BoP and change of rules that made the car not as good from what I've heard, and not having a rear wing didn't let them change the car settings the way they wanted to. Having a rear wing will let them change the incidence of the wing and let them balance it correctly
doing the hybrid starts keeps me so entertained with this mod, the insane ammount of detail and authenticity brings so much immerssion
The maximum stint energy, engine power, etc is all bop stuff. If you look at recent IMSA/WEC bop tables you'll see those terms used and how it differs per car. Useful for leagues or LFM in this case
Great video, hopefully RSS bring the Porsche 963 they have been teasing this week!
They finally did 💪
Been waiting on your video of this Mike - thanks for covering it!
Thanks Ben! This one was late because I wasn’t bright enough to turn on my mic for the first round of recording, lol
@@SimRacing604definitely been there and done that! 😂
Small thing to some but I'm really impressed by the quality of the PDF manuals we get with VRC cars. They're in a league of their own on that front.
I've only driven it for about an hour but yes, its very hard to get this car to rotate but exiting turns it really puts the power down. I got about the same times with vanilla and CSP version so if you don't love tinkering you can just jump into the vanilla car and have some fun.
Great review Mike! 2024 already seems to be shaping up to be a great year for AC
BOP minimum speed refers to the minimum speed at which you can use the MGUK because that’s a real life part of the WEC regulations. Depending on certain factors there are specific speeds where if under that you cannot use MGUK power if in an LMH car like this. (The LMDh cars in WEC do not fall under this rule as their hybrid systems are different)
Also maximum stint energy refers to another regulation in WEC in order to keep the cars balanced. 👍😃
It's crazy that the irl car produces so much down force it doesn't need the rear wing.
Great video Mike. I can't wait for the Ferrari, and also the Porsche from RSS. Hopefully we will see the Cadillac eventually also.
In addition to the 963 RSS are making an SC63 as well 😉 The Cadi and Acura are the only LMDh cars missing by now 😊
Great review as always. Just a slight correction. Louvered fenders and the cutout on top of the wheel is to let air escape as early as possible from the wheel well. Its not really related to brake cooling.
Best looking Hypercar, can't wait to see the wing version at Le Mans.
Great video Mike. I downloaded this and once I’d gotten over the terror of installing the mod and the extended controls app…well, what else can I say. It’s awesome.
Thanks Paul! I agree, it’s pretty awesome.
Aesthetically this is my favourite LMH car. I hope it starts doing better in competition.
So I just started watching your channel, you have been nothing but good to me thus far lol. Took your advice on this car...never really raced these classes and MAN IS THIS THING A BLAST! Thanks for the good call on this thing. Man is it good! you just picked up a new sub btw!
The MJ limit is something WEC/IMSA defines due to stint limits. Like how much energy total they can use over a stint rather than just energy use per lap. And its combined energy, electric and ICE.
The ier p13c is the reason I bought assetto corsa. I watched the developer interview and I was sold.
One gnarly looking car
i would expect the Glickenhaus would make its appearance anytime soon.. even though they arent around for this season (presumably)
Definitely waiting for the 499P
Great video once again Mike. Definitely curious to take a look into this car.
Unrelated question, but will you be covering the new AMS 2 prototypes too? Would love to know your opinion.
Definitely will. Maybe as early as tomorrow.
Thanks for the in-depth look into this awesome car!
Good God!.... this car transmits great steering feel.
Every single detail is communicated.
My Moza R9 relays the curbing and track undulation at Mugello...and every other place for that matter like never before.
As to understeer...If you see two-thirds of any apex before turn in, you are guaranteed to be off track.
Don't even bother trying to get back on at that point...ain't happening.
The car requires the driver to be exceptionally greedy with curbs.
You must take big, big bites to get it around a corner.
Finally someone build the most beautiful and interesting Hypercar for AC!
It will be sad if they really will have a wing on next years model..
I wonder if they're going to do a whole HyperCar pack! That would be great.
It seems to be shaping up like that, yes
Despite not being the most performant of the field, that car is by far the most beautiful 😍
Informative, thanks for the details!
Thanks for this video, Mike. Well explained as always.
Great review Mike. You always give great reviews and I respect your opinion. I would love to know what you think of the current situation with Fanatec and their lack of customer service.
you would want a pit limiter for leagues and LFM, so you dont get a penalty going to fast over the white line, so yeah quite crucial lol
This may well be the only modern track car I like, apart from some Lamborghinis. I hope it will come to LFM soon!
now we have the 9x8 and the bmw m hypercar, i hope RSS and VRC give us the remaining LMDH's (963,499p, V.series R, TRX)
Isn't this car, like, one of the most underperforming cars on the WEC grid?
Good addition to RSS's BMW M and URD's Glickenhaus SCG007, but already people tend to overrate it.
Yeah it’s definitely not the fastest in real life, but a fun car we worked on nonetheless.
this thing looks like that one kid in class in a hoodie and a mohawk
1:50 those cutouts are not there to cool the brakes, they reduce lift. on another note, looks like VRC knocked it out of the park once again!
are those tyres on backwards?
Great vid, Great vehicle, I love that people are still pushing AC in the mod scene
Hi Mike, did you have to change any FFB settings? The non-CSP version feels normal to me, but the CSP version wants to rip my arms off. Am I doing something wrong?
Im reading that from a few people. I didn’t have to change anything personally, but it might not be a bad idea to map buttons to the FFB Strength +/-. Definitely don’t want to ruin your experience with this car because of bad force feedback!
@@SimRacing604 Thanks for the tip! Not sure why but I turned down the FFB to 16% and feels good now.
When you display the car why do you use the F7 freeroam function?
It’s really difficult to use for this.
Just use the F5 function where you are centered around the car and it’s super easy to show things and navigate around the car.
I am on CSP 1.79p5 and i want to still stay there. Obviously i can`t use the CSP Version of the car. I do not need any special features BUT i would like to know if the car physics is same as the regular version ? TiA
The physics are more detailed on the CSP version, and it’s particularly noticeable with the suspension.
Is there any chance that manufacturers would (if asked) allow to use their names for community use like modding?
I hope to see that on LFM
the what car now? love how some struggle with the word Peugeot😂😂
i would love a comparison of who does lmdhs better, RSS or VRC. m hybrid v8 vs 9x8
VRC are the best
ok plz correct me if I'm wrong, they not letting mods to be made for ACC, so these guys (and probably others) putting in a lot of work into mods for a 10 yo game? I checked their page really good cars for a fair price! so what's going on with ACC, is its format encrypted or what? thx for the video btw 🍻
very nice video from you. quick question, does "use extended physics" have to be activated in the content manager for this vehicle?
Nope, and I would recommend never checking that option especially in these latest CSP patches.
@Schmawlik even when VRC and RSS mention it being a CSP version? I'm confused
@jelly8594 there should be 2 versions of the car, regular and a CSP version with all the fancy bells and whistles. Extended physics is usually for the weather/rain physics and isnt needed to utilize the CSP version of the car.
@@7enpa1285 ah, okay. So I can use the CSP Version but can decide if with or without extended physics. Thanks 👍🏽
Hi Mike. Great in-depth video as always. I have a few questions for you if I may. 1) can you load this car using Content Manager or do you have to load this manually in the AC root directory? 2) I know you said this is the best feeling car you’ve ever driven. Is this even better than the VRC Formula Alpha 23? I know they are in different categories but would appreciate your thoughts here. Thank you!
Thanks for watching! 1) you should load this car manually; installing using CM can cause issues. 2) I prefer the feel of the Pageau; both are great, but the suspension and road feel of the 9T8 is on another level
@@SimRacing604 Thank you! Much appreciated.
Great video, great car! Is it normal the car exhaust creates that much flames? Each gear shift results in flames in the rear mirror.
Actually it isn't unusual that the car is shooting flames while shifting. The 963 had an onboard at night to the back where the car was basically a flame thrower all night. However the way it is shown in the mirror In-game wasn't really intended, therefore we will update it in a future update.
Bit off topic. Do you think it would ever be possible to "port" ai behavior from one sim to another or is that impossible? AC would be perfect if one could "port" it from AMS2 after the latest update?
I asked this question a couple of years back, and I was told no. I was wondering why AMS2’s AI was so much worse than AMS1’s, and why Reiza didn’t just copy and paste their work from a previous title. My recollection is that the AI is partly shaped around the physics and what the opponent cars should be capable of, so it wouldn’t work to port the AI behaviour unless the physics were identical.
@@SimRacing604 That makes sense. Just one of those things us as sim racers would love to see. I hope AC2 gets that bang on and of course the curbs as well. Keep up the amazing work 👌
What track and where to get? :)
NO WING NO SPOILER !!!
I’m curious if they will update it to add the wing once it gets it IRL.
It's probably not as easy as adding the wing on. Because the whole car needs to work seamlessly for aero purposes peugeot will probably have changed it quite a bit
@@Stfguac shut up nerd
I wonder if they simulated how bad it sucks on bumpy tracks lol.
How many Nm are you using to ensure you feel all the forces?
My R16 is (16Nm peak) is set to 65%
@@SimRacing604 Thank you. And then 100 In-Game FFB?
Will you be reviewing united rancing designs newly update loire?
I didn’t know they updated it. I’ll definitely give it a go. Thanks for the heads up.
@@SimRacing604 No problem.
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Hearing Americans saying "Poo-Jo" makes my toes curl😖
Well then, Mike is Canadian, so…
Same when we hear British people call it "Purr-Jo." Gross.
For laughs a friend of mine calls it Pew-jit 😂 gets me everytime.
@@F-Man well shit 🤣
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The mods may be brilliant, but the underlying game is terrible from a usability standpoint. Menus that don't scale with screen resolution, SO MANY input bugs, and to get it to function at any level at all requires mods. I sincerely hop that AC2 is at least on par with acc, because while the driving is awesome, every other aspect of the game is needlessly bad.
Content manager is sooooo easy to install and use. Just do that and save yourself the trouble
No matter what i do in the set-up i cannot get the hybrid system, MGUK to regenerate even on strat 1, it just goes down and down until empty. Can you or anyone else please explain how to get the MGUK to regen whilst driving with strat 1. Thanks for any advice.
Are you using KERS Overtake or something?
@@Schmawlik I use it when i need the extra kick but only then. Its baffling to just watch it deplete even with no kers use. Other Hyper cars i use do what they are suppose to do. as soon as i hit the brakes or coast other cars regen so i dont know about the new VRC car. Not sure if its related to set up or something to do with the new extended controls.
@@menacegtr 2 things to check for, make sure your KERS Overtake isn’t stuck on all the time due to it being set to “Toggle” mode in Extended Controls, and then try lowering your Torque Split in the setup’s Power Unit tab
@@Schmawlik Thanks for your reply. I will take a look and get back to you. The kers button on hold is interesting, will see if that's an issue. Once again, thanks for your help.
Forgot to also say. I don't have to mess with any of the power unit settings?
$5.50 😂
Ridiculous how much they charge for this.
How much should they charge?
$1.99 sounds a lot more reasonable, maybe even a tad bit below that. I think one reason why the sim racing scene is not blowing up in the U.S. it's because how over priced everything is.. I know people won't like what I'm saying, but it's true. Even Nvidia GPUs had to reduce how much they were pricing them because people finally opened their eyes and realized that this is a complete highway robbery.
@@Eddiea2024 I don’t agree, but I respect your opinion. To me, these cars involve thousands of hours of development, and provide people like me with dozens or even hundreds of hours of entertainment. So I think the price is very fair. And I’ve spoken to mod creators in the past, and they aren’t making huge money. In fact, many of the mods they create lose money.
You are joking right?
$1.99 for a car with this level of detail?
@Saabjock I'm not whatsoever. There are many developers out here designing cars on AC and giving them out for free. Similar to me, I design sim rigs before someone makes their purchase, and I acrually put the time and effort to help them without them paying me 1 penny. Why do you do that, you ask? It's because I'm doing it for the sim racing community. But greed is out there, and charging $5+ for one car is insane. Like I said before, I know many of you won't agree, keep spending your hard earned money on these people. Eventually, these cars will hit over $20 and only then, people will realize... wait.. we've been duped.