Cessna 208 ILS Approach HOW TO in under 15 Minutes - Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- In 10 minutes learn how to perform an ILS Approach in the Cessna 208 Caravan in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020.
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There is a lot to unpack here. It would be great if you could do a tutorial covering ILS basics and how to use the G1000. This is like learning to sprint 100m before I’m walking. ;)
Agreed. It is enjoyable to watch, but if he isn't showing me how to get set up, I end up completely lost. However, Squirrel isn't alone in incomplete tutorials (or maybe assuming we all know more than we do).
True. This is the 15 minute crash course to be fair :D
I came here specifically to learn all about ILS so would absolutely love to learn this. Say...tutorial #11? :D
Yes, ILS for dummies, please. Starting with: where do you get these approach plates?
Couldn’t agree more. 3 years - no reply.
I suck at this so hard, you make it look so easy. I just got back into MSFS after like 3 years of being away and i literally just about forget everything.
wow.. what a landing!
So smooth and precise!
it's like he didn't even land, just became one with the airport. Passengers were like, did we land? i didn't feel nothing, are you sure we are not just floating?
It would be great if you would explain the other approaches next - RNAV and VOR DME
RNAV is super broken in MFS2020 hopefully they fix it. VOR/DME works though
@@kennyp1021 Sorry what do u mean by RNAV being broken?
Kamilohbk The sensitivity never changes from ENR. You don’t get TERM, APR, LNAV/VNAV, LPV etc sensitivity. So you can be pretty far off centerline without noticing any deflection on your CDI. Getting to the IAF is a mess. It draws some random arc to it and it doesn’t know anything about about procedure turns. And good luck trying to get it to sequence to the next waypoint. Glidepath isn’t right at all. And for all approaches, the missed approach procedure isn’t included
@@kennyp1021 That reminds me of something. Sometimes i get a full IFR route from the sim's inbuilt flight planner, but after 2 steps it stops following the route for some reason and keep X course. Is it related to that?
Kamilohbk not sure I’ve seen that in the sim. Does it happen when you’re using a departure procedure?
Listens to Squirrel speak in a unknown language for 10+ mins, still found it fascinating.
I look at different flight sim videos , but you are the only one that actually teach different situation and how to used the equipment of the aircraft. just keep the good work.
Great video as always. I've been away from the Sim world for a long time, getting back in with FS2020, every one of your videos has been either an invaluable refresher or taught me something new. Great stuff!
Same here
Welcome back, I too have returned to MSFS after about 15 years away from it.
Am exited to get back into it, and hopefully they get all the little bugs fixes in the near future.
After completely choking on your TBM ILS video, I was able to follow this one all the way in. Thanks!
Apparently I need to go to ground school to even begin to comprehend all the vernacular here.
The G1000 is a highly capable but very complex system. It does take a lot of study to become proficient enough to stay ahead of the plane.
Of course you are showing us the hard way Paul, I would expect nothing else
You can do things the hard way or the wrong way lol
@@therocinante3443 Don't forget the third option, the easy way which also works
@@briboy2009 The one you also forgot to mention is the correct way. lolol
This is the kind of stuff that keeps me engaged after the newness of the amazing graphics wears off. 😁 Now if I could just figure out how to get RNAV to work!
You lost me at " we are going to do it the hard way".
Lost me at Lima Romeo Sierra Foxtrot.
lol
If you utilize the Lead radial on the app chart you can avoid overshooting the LOC, in real world ops we avoid banks in excess of 30° in IMC to keep the establishment onto the localizer smooth, last thing you want is to go out of tolerance on the last turn and go missed after a 15 mile arc procedure.
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I think it was even better than the last one because of the way you demonstrated how to use the VOR and ADF in addition to the ILS. I'll need to watch it a few more times though to fully understand it.
Thanks. Great tutorial but as others have said it's a lot to unpack. Will need to review the video several more times to take it all in. Thanks for taking the time!
Will you be making a video on how to use the extra propellor lever in the Cessna Grand Caravan? You’ve made all the best MSFS tutorial videos so far.
Hell yes, nice! I sat center seat in a USAF Learjet that did the approach into LAX like that one smoggy night. Totally looked like that! THANX
You’re tutorials are genuinely useful, and extremely clear and easy to follow. Many thanks for the great work!
Thank you so much! Complete noob 0 flight hours. Your videos has made me a very confident flyer in the sim! Great videos.
One of your best videos!! Learned quite a bit in this short clip! And it's so cool that it was IMC and the runway just appeared exactly where it should!!
Thanks so much for this. I'm busy flying a round the world flight with the caravan and still can't nail my landings. So looking forward to trying this on some upcoming flights
Super helpful. Had trouble capturing glide slope last night in the 208. I had it on VS mode still was the reason why I think. Flight sim is getting better every patch. I took a two week break and it's way better than before. It's going to be really nice once all the little details are sorted like the garmin stuff.
Wow, a lot learned again. I have seen quite a few tutorials about ILS approach etc. and I'm learning now about the VOR's. This video is quite complicated but what I do is "cut it in pieces", try to replicate it in MSFS and move on to the next bit. This way it's easier to understand for me. Great video though, thanks!
I have a few comments :
1- What is your weather preset? Looks great for practicing CAT-I approaches.
2- That landing was amazing.
3- For those IFR tutorials, it would probably be a good idea to zoom in a little bit on those instruments. It's quite hard to see the green VOR arrows on a screen with a normal ratio. Those widescreens shots looks great, but instruments appear smaller.
This is good insight. Thank you for presenting it.
If you're looking for something that works, has okay scenery, taxi systems that work, and a complete fight school built-in, I highly recommend MS FSX. Learned with it myself from scratch, and kept notes at the beginning, but it's (all) lots of basics and some older stuff, but it's your 'free' building blocks, and a virtual complete flight school at home at your own pace. I look at my (19yr) grandson who's watching me explain 2020 on his Xbox(flying by thumbs on those controllers is a joke, and buttons, sticks, the controls seem backward to me, up is down, left is right, is just crazy to me, but a few I've managed to get switched but not all, which causes other learning problems to re-learn,) and realize he's no way ready to even barely taxi or fly a simple pattern there's so much to know before you can begin. Can't wait to spring for a good yoke. Suggestions? ~late to 2020 in 24.
Didn't even realized you landed it was so smooth. 👍
I've just started flying the Caravan and I really like it. So much still to learn though, so thanks for the video.
Beautiful approach and a great landing. Another quality video Squirrel!
My friend’s dad flies the C208GC daily, and he says that you usually fly over the threshold at around 100-95kts (IAS)
Two great videos on this subject, but can you pop out the pfd so we can have a good look at the screen? Cheers Suirgil.
You are amazing Squirrel.
As I am learning this flight sim I have appreciated all of the proceeding lessons and have learnt a lot. I have been sticking to the Cessna which features heavily in previous lessons and was hoping that the introduction to ILS landings was made in that. Not only has Squirrel jumped up a plane, he has also outlined the HARDEST way to use ILS. Lost me completely. This is the first video here I have not upticked as it seems illogical to both change the usual plane AND describe the hardest way to implement an ILS landing. Great for advanced users, but very off putting for us novices. Sorry mate.
@@SoothesMySoul20 Many thanks for pointing that out. I obviously need more sleep as I had not even noticed that certain videos were prefixed with "Tutorial #" and this one was not. I shall slap my face with a wet kipper and wait patiently in anticipation :-)
The previous ILS video in the TBM 930 was a very easy way to do ILS, you should check that one out. To be honest, it's done the same way as the Cessna 152, except in the 152 you have to manually follow the indicators, whereas here you just let the auto-pilot do everything.
Also, huge issue, the Cessna 152 doesn't have a DME, so it's kinda hard to follow a procedure when you don't know your distance to the target. The DME is the instrument that gives you a distance on the radio navaids you are connected to, like VOR beacon or LOC (ILS) beacons. With the Cessna 152 in the game, you can roughly follow an ILS descent manually, but you cannot follow the procedure of an approach chart. You will have to upgrade to the 172 for that.
Another clarification. He didn't highlight the hardest way to do an ILS landing. He highlighted a harder way to approach to intercept the ILS. ILS landing is always done the same way, but how you get to the ILS is different.
To clarify, landing in IFR is done in two steps :
1- Follow a specific route around the airport that guides you to a specific point where you intercept the ILS (or whatever you use to descend), this is called the STAR and is what is shown in those charts documents.
2- Actually perform the final descent (like the ILS).
If you just want to practice the ILS descent, you can just roughly fly towards the axis of the airport, with good enough distance and keeping a given altitude (in this example here it's 3000ft I believe ?). Then as you intercept the ILS, you can just follow the indicators of the ILS. You don't need to follow the whole STAR to just practice ILS approach.
@@POolBacK thank you for those useful comments. I have already started using the 172 as Squirrel has used it for a few of the tutorials and found it to be as easy to fly as the 152. What put me off was the three screens in the 208 as I would rather master the 172 before venturing any further up the ladder. I must have missed the ILS video in a TBM 930 so I shall follow your advice and take a look at that. Thanks again,
@@BoxersAreTheBest don't be put off by the 3 screens. The 208 has 3 screens, but the right most screen is a copy of the left most screen. It's only used for co-pilot, just don't pay attention to it.
For all intent and purposes, the 208 uses actually only two screen and is almost the same system as the 172, with minimal variation.
But yeah, in general, I would recommend focusing on the 172 to do this. Just input the frequency of the ILS as NAV1, make sure to change your PFD to VOR 1. Fly to intercept the axis of the runway at a certain distance. Hold 3000 altitude for now, and as you pick up the signal, align yourself on the LOC (or press the NAV button on the autopilot to do it automatically) and then you can presse the APR button on the autopilot to automatically descend following the glide slope. Really easy.
GREAT tutorial. Now I only have to watch it 8 or 10 more times and maybe I will have a go without a catastrophe! !! !!!
Squirrel, have you ever thought of reproducing a flight that WW2 spitfire pilots did from Gib to Malta, no fancy navigation and not allowed to fly over land. Multiplayer squadron would be more fun. Waiting for VR before getting back into FS. Hope you give it a go, called "club run"
How about showing us the easy way first? Many of us, like myself, are new to FS 2020. Let's start with ILS basics first. A series of FS Garmin tutorials would be really nice.
please break down in detail how the approach chart works in relation to the flight. Ive watched a ton of vids on how to read jepp/faa charts but I'd like to see it in action.. if you did a video just like thsi but broke it all down detail by detail that would be awesome.
Very cool. Still not sure what I'm seeing but it's starting to make a little more sense thanks to you.
It all looks so easy, when someone else does it. It all looks like something to lead a news bulletin if I try it.
Thank you for yet an other great instructional video Squirrel. Very much Appreciated. I'm a newbie at all this, and you really help with these. One part of the flight that is still puzzling me is: when I am flying at my cruising alt, without using any ATC, when do I start my descent and at what rate? you touch the subject a few times, but it is not clear to me. Once again, thank you for your time in making these videos.
That where the VS (Vertical Speed) indications come in handy. If you need to drop from 14000 feet to 5000, that's a descent of 9000 feet. How far are you from where you need to be there in minutes? 10 minutes? Okay, you need to keep that vertical speed indicator at about 900 feet per minute. How far out that is depends on how fast you're flying etc, but most places without mucking big mountains in the way are pretty forgiving of getting to your approach altitude a little early, so starting with plenty of margin is usually okay.
Request: Tutorial on this pane of glass stuff - I hardly recognize a thing on any of this.
the sound effects of the rain(drops) on the short final really made thought it actually rained outside my flat in real life...
oh i can tell ya about the real thing , storm lax 10 pm , so loud you can not hear a death scream, you have no idea how loud, does the sim rock from side to side 180 degree rolls ?? just asking guys ? real thing does
Who needs thousands of pounds worth of flight lessons when we have Squirrel out here doing it for a click of the thumbs up button.
The Cessna Caravan has giving me only trouble in MSFS2020. For some reason the autopilot messes up the trim and then the plane crashes. I haven't had this issue with any other plane.
me as well it continue's to climb thru the assigned altitude even though armed and set properly, very frustrating
If I use rudder at all by accident while in AP the plane spins out of control
Another great instructional video..thank you
Thanks Squirrel mate! This confirms my understanding of the technical and theoretical use of the instruments. Now all you have to do is make a video that helps me with translating it into an actual landing. lolol Keep these tutorials coming buddy. They are invaluable to pilots as awful as I.
p.s.
At what point would the pilot activate a planned approach in the G1000, being different from the apr button on the autopilot.
Hi, please show us how to set up ILS in the A320 and the Citation please.
bruh I buzzed past LAX ATC yesterday and I basically annihilated a couple 747's along the way at CDX LMAO, this is pro stuff
That landing though. 👏
13:30 all that trouble. never let autopilot try land? it will flare kind of.after that turn it off and it land. and you still have time go around.wheels never touch runway
Please do one more for the big planes
How do you pull up your plate like that? Alt Tab? I love how quickly you can reference it without pushing the Windows key and breaking simulation.
Definitely needs a follow up video for us noobs, I mean where do you even find the frequency for the ILS Line up.
THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL LANDING... I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT
Real life pilots would be jealous of how smooth your landing was.
Isn't he a real life pilot too though?
hahaha i doubt it after many thousands of hours in the van ?? hahahahahah
@@yienmaster04 Yes, I think he is
This is a great walkthrough, thanks for sharing.
After reading some comments,. It seems like there's a lot of new fight simmers thanks to Microsoft
Liked for that landing
Can you please show an ILS or Rnav approach in the C152 or C172 with analog gauges ?
In MSFS 2020 you cannot do the whole STAR with analog gauges because it lacks the DME instrument. You can just perform the final ILS. With the G1000 172, you can absolutely do everything, except RNAV approaches are bugged.
I hope they fix some of these broken airplanes... such as the caravan in the new patch
love these series. please do all planes :)
Very informative and very well done. Thank you
Brilliant video! Thank you!
squirrel must be grinning after that landing lol
I love these videos. The Cessna 208 is currently my plane of choice and this was a godsend as I'm still trying to learn everything. Definitely not ready to start flying the smaller passenger jets.
I know it's asking a lot, but is there anyway you could provide a simple step by step write up alongside to follow or could provide a link to a good one? Thanks!
great videos! Hey, I loaded the C208B Mod and now my entire cabin is invisible!! No panel instruments...nada. Any ideas?
You flew the wrong ILS. This Caravan is not ADF/NDB equipped. ILS Y 03 requieres for the Miss Approach Procedure an ADF/NDB (Look at the chart in the little box in the map section). You shall fly ILS Z 03 with this aircraft.
Is it at all possible to use in-game information to do an ils approach without resorting to third party data? If so,how?
Could you explain in more depth where you get your approach plates and how you use them in game?
I think I have the autopilot features down, I just don't know how to translate the approach plates, nor understand how you get them to look the way they do in game with their own window.
I'm confused why you switched off of NAV to Heading mode to intercept the localizer. We wouldn't have intercepted if we stayed on NAV the whole way?
Hey Squirrel, love your video's. Could you maybe do an ILS tutorial of a more complicated aproach? Like EHAM (Schiphol, Netherlands) for example?
Great video but please unpack ! Over the head of us beginners. Full tutorial?
Great video again. Thanks!
hi , i keep watching these great videos , but no one sais were they get there approach plates from please ?
sorry found them
Could you explain how to set up R-NAV for the A320? That’s one of they only things I can’t figure out with it
Super Wow!!!
I wanted this!!
another good one thanks. i appreciate it.
hi wendy ya still doing Catalina in the van ? think about ya
Is there somewhere where you can get these approach plates?
"confused Pikachu" 🤯
Excellent, Excellent!
Great Video thanks, could you show the easy way too please?
Amazing but if you can focus on the teaching part it would be way more valuable
What did you think he was focused on?
Im thinking of starting this sim and I,m wondering what one uses for controls. Do you by a console with throttle levers ,flaps etc or do you do everything on a keyboard or touch screen?
Great video! Question, was using the VOR just for this specific situation? I ask, because normally I just fly the approach fixes (GPS), and then when close simply click "APPR" to enter the approach mode etc. What you did in both videos was amazing, but also very confusing. Which, is great because its a chance to also lean something new! I guess what I am asking.. is in the real world is the more simple approach used?
Does punching in the minimum altitude do anything in terms of AP behavior, or is it just a visual reminder for the pilot?
Amazing tutorial man. Thank you very much for publishing such videos. If I would choose the Garmin ILS approach feature, would I need to take care of setting LOC frequency or would I need just to maintain the correct altitude for GS and the system would switch at the right time from NAV GPS to NAV LOC APPROACH?
What addon is this for the maps and plates?
is there a way to display radio altimeter altitude instead of baro?
2:23 yeah yeah there it is. why charts? what if becouze it is game. what if there is no approach what you find charts lol. yes yes you pick some what game has lol. this is how easy it is. in future we not need airtraffic. you just fly autopilot. if someone on same air way you sure see it front of you lol. this is where it go different from cars. you NOT overtake stay on line lol
Could you explain how you know what arrival, approach, transition to use?
the one that approach gives you, oh you mean in the sim ?? what ever you want to practice
Very technical need a challenge
Will the enactment couple glide slop on autopilot?
Your doing a great job😀
Do you put missed approach altitude in the auto pilot just for reference so you know what it is if you have to manually fly it out or do you turn on the auto pilot on a missed approach?
Where do you get the charts that fs2020 uses? For example I see your chart is dated 2019, the jeppesen charts I have are 2021 dated. Is fs2020 procedures database up to date? Where I'm from procedures are being changed frequently.
Sorry I can only give 1 thumbs up, it deserves more. As a newbie, my question: this type of approach is only possible to airports with ILS? What happens if coming into a small airport like some in FSEconomy in fog/clouds? Or even a bush airport with no lights?
Basically, you don't.
On the MSFS map you can see two types of airport, the ones with blue circle have instruments procedures available, the ones with brown circles don't, and you will be required to land on visual. Make sure you check them before flying them, and check the weather forecast for those airports. You might just be able to land visually.
Greetings from Mexico. thanks for the video. how do you speed up time in the simulator?
Wouldn't it be easier to simply land manually instead of setting up all these obscure things?
As always a great video but I dont understand the thing with under 15 min. Is the time limit some kind of thing? I must say Im not found of stressing through something
He means he's showing you how to do it in under 15 minutes of video time as opposed to making a 40 minute video. He doesn't mean you have 15 minutes before landing to get everything ready.
@@jedsithor I know that, has nothing to do with how much time I have before touch down. I just need training slower but I can see in the comments that most wants this so its only me.
Thanks for this - is it possible to get approach plates free? ie. without paying a mortgage to Jappesen?
I'd like to see a video where none of the initial setup was there, all you're doing is punching in a frequency for an airport and flying in. It's all very clever and all good for very serious simmers, I can't be ar$ed with all this, you lost me before 2 minutes in.