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10 Warning Signs of Psychopathy
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 14. 08. 2024
- In this video, I will discuss 10 signs of psychopathy that are often mistaken for narcissism which you don't want to miss or ignore. I will also provide insights into the underlying causes of psychopathy and information on what makes you vulnerable and how to protect yourself from their harmful behaviour.
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Introduction (0:00)
What is Psychopathy (1:28)
1: Lacks Empathy (3:08)
2: Anger Outbursts (3:49)
3: Logic Over Emotions (4:20)
4: P.H.I.L. and C.O.L.E. (4:40)
5: Able to Read Others (7:39)
6: Leverage (9:24)
7: They Don't Love (10:46)
8: Relationships with Victims (11:26)
9: Fulfill Fantasies (11:49)
10: Honest and Lying (12:19)
Psychopath vs BPD (13:40)
#covertnarcissist #narcissist #npd
It took me 10 years to recover after the abuse of a female psychopath who pretended to be my friend, but she was actually my worst enemy.
Same
Me too
Yes... I grew up with my dadâs 2nd & 3rd wives. Both of these women were vicious and duplicitous. One created a half sister as rotten as her mother. Both of these evil women destroyed my reputation and relationships. They were also very physically abusive. They definitely had the traits of this serious personality disorder.
Yep. It's been 13 for me. Have PTSD, C-PTSD, anxiety and panic attacks. Am on disability and see a therapist twice a week. I will never date again and haven't since. My life is forever changed.
Same here
A person who has no empathy or remorse is very scary.
How?
How?
@@dollie9018 They will literally laugh at you while blood runs over your face from hittings from a bottle and you are in tears. When I think about it, they don't come out of this world, just a place of misery. Sad individuals, actually. - Male, 28.
@@metamaorphose6979 What if I have low affective empathy but high cognitive empathy? Am I monster, a sad individual?
@@dollie9018 If you enjoy torturing other people psychologically or physically, yeah you are.
My ex wife's father tried to warn about his daughter when I first met him. His message was full of pain from what she had done to him. I thought he was being a bit harsh, roll on thirty years I am still trying get my life back together at 58.
Until I watched this video I had the impression that she was a covert narcissist. The descriptions of a psychopath given here match exactly to her behaviour. I will say unless you are a psychopath or a hard core narcisist youself you will be destroyed by them if you remain in their sphere of influence .
You must get away, far away, out of sight and out of their minds.
Female psychopaths have the ability to rally army's of willing supporters male and female to help crush every fiber of your being.
She once said to me after she had told the most horrid lies to those around us that, reality was what people believe it to be.
If you don't like what I am doing to you then don't piss me off.
In 15 years I never saw her cry once not even giving birth to our 2 children.
Psychopaths are everywhere they are just very smart at hiding in plain sight.
Good to hear that's it's over. However, the thing about the father is just a tragedy. It's not like cruel people pop out of existence out of nowhere. They come from a mother and a father. The father saying his daughter is cruel is what all cruel people say, where do you think she got it from? The father was just as cruel as her, unless he was a codependent, which is also sad and pathetic.
@@alvodin6197 What you have said has merit, in fact knowing both her mother and father there is some from both sides. I can also see the negative traits that I inherited from my mother (only saw my father once that I remember) My childhood is riddled with trauma. Having to watch my mother shoot kittens with a shotgun. Verbally and physically abused almost daily. Sexulally abused by step brother. I was run over by a car driven by my step father. They just
put me on my bed and let my cry myself to sleep. I was so traumatized by being run over that I could not even move. I could never bend over and touch my toes from that day on. These are just a few of the things that happened to me. I live in hope that there are good people in the world.
When I read this I thought I had written it. What a nightmare female narcs are.
@@joelG1272 I'm sorry to hear of your struggles with these type of people. Life can be unfair. May you have abundant peace and contentment. I can relate because I been through traumic life events myself. What is priceless is that we aware and awake to these types of people and we can protect ourselves or avoid them. Best and well wish to you and your loved ones!
@@joelG1272 a good book and workbook for healing childhood trauma if you haven't already and anyone else interested is "Complex PTSD from surviving to thriving" by Pete Walker. Its an excellent tool in healing.đ
No, not all Psychopaths are dangerous physically, but emotionally is a whole different level! ALOT of them are in Management or Leadership roles and they got there by stepping on others to make their way up.
Yes. Even if they're not violent they all leave a trail of (figurative) bodies in their wake. They often attain authority in a workplace by destroying the person who was originally in that position when they arrived.
its about narcissism
pure psychopathy is very low in narcissism, pure sociopathy is very high in narcissism
Thatâs not psychopathic thatâs sociopathic
What you ĂȘxpct lÆĄl. ThĂąÌt is what they do and want.so called " Power" anh a "sĂȘnse" of being "above" etc
i meet the scary one its called malign narcissist they are scary.
What Iâm hearing is that once you notice someone is trying to manipulate you you should probably runđ
There so fucking psychotic they wonât let you run, they wonât let you even communicate to the outside world they wonât let you get your side of the story out
yeah true
This is the mother of my children, I'm not over it.
It has permanently damaged my relationships with women in general.
Mine is the mother ofâŠme. I thought she was a narc but no sheâs a psychopath
Fk it ,move forward
Mine is my mother too, she thinks humans have two emotions, happiness and sadness. She has no idea who I am and she has tried to destroy me, my marriage and my family. I'm starting to think she is a psychopath too.
+1
In 1996 when I was 21 I was set up by an ex to be murdered. By pure luck I'm here today posting this comment.
Did your ex get serious prison time?
You can't just put a story like this out and leave us hanging like this.
Wow
Now that I think about it.. There have been many attempts on my life... I wonder if all people who have attempted on my life are psychopathic. I would think they're probably either psychopathic or borderlines in a psychopathic state. Narcissists... Not sure if a narcissist has ever done an attempt on my life - I usually get along with people with Narcissistic personality disorder, I'm a pretty useful guy.
Stp da cap đ
I had an encounter with a female psychopath once there was something magical about her she was like the closest thing to a fairy that you will ever meet in the real world at first she pretended to be a supportive friend who was genuinely interested in what I had going on in my life she made me feel like there was nothing I couldnât do but I donât know itâs like a switch flipped in her head or something and then things started to take a turn for the the worse she suddenly without any provocation became extremely rude and disrespectful started to gaslight me and play mind games and by the time her mask completely came off I realized that she was not a fairy đ§ââïž but a goblin đ in disguise the whole time.
Well, i think fairy is fair if you look at how they are depicted in the movie the Labyrinth. In mythology, they are tricksters who have no concept of what boundaries they are violating. Some misperceive this as being child-like naivete, but it is just the trickster archetype.
this is a great succinct description. They seem to have magical or more accurately ideal qualities and then the mask comes off. I can't imagine the depths of idiocy they must see in people from their perspective. I only know to avoid them.
@@adamswierczynski The Movie Twilight also highlights the chaotic nature of beings that havenât matured past a certain point when Edward Cullen was telling the story about the âImmortal Childrenâ he said they were very beautiful and enchanting, to be near them was to love them but because they got changed into vampires when they were still so very young they couldnât develop emotionally past the age they were turned they couldnât be taught or restrained and as a result their appetite for human blood became so insatiable that they all had to be destroyed now is it just me or does this description perfectly describe a narcissist?
Aka a wolf on sheepâs clothing
Was she from New York state lol? I had the exact same experience with someone from there.
I wish the world wasn't full of people like this.
Omg so true
the good news is that most people aren't like this. the bad news is that 1% of people is still enough that most people are likely to encounter them
Neurotypical act worse than some people with ASPD
@@vehement. you need two âsomeâs in that sentence. there are certainly some neurotypical people who act way worse than some people with ASPD, but certainly not every neurotypical person
@@asdfghyter Youâd be surprised. Or perhaps youâre just blind.
Healthcare is crawling with them.
So is DC.
Absolutely agree, healthcare seems to attract themđ€·đŒââïž
Interesting. Why?
@@bellwether9496the rigid hierarchy furnishes them with money narcissistic supply and access to victims. There are as many female psychopaths as men but they're all lurking in healthcare
I was married to a female psychopath for several years. All of this information is 100% spot on. I would like to add that she was also very adept (towards the end) at manipulating law enforcement and the legal system to be her thugs. She manipulated cops, prosecutors and judges with ease, having me falsely imprisoned for 2 years on her word alone. She used that time to systematically defraud me. I was finally released when she tired of the game and moved on, but not before I lost everything financially between what she stole and legal fees.
Sorry that you had to go through this man. Brutal!! I hope you're doing better these days and you have overcome this dark chapter of your life with resilience and conviction in yourself.
Similar happened to me, although thankfully I haven't gone to prison (yet!) , but she tried to destroy me with malicious lies after I'd only been kind to her. I'm on the autistic spectrum, and I think we are mostly well-meaning but gullible, and therefore vulnerable to being exploited by evil people who can sense our weakness. I'm also a Jeremy.
Damn sorry to hear mate that's dreadful and intense sounding man
Yep that's how they work. Evil. And the system is infected, that's why they help each other, they understand each other's victim role very well and they recognize each other even if it is all without consciousness.
Men need to make their own justice.
My mother was a psychopath, which I was not able to grasp and confront fully until I reached the age of 60. Oddly, it was a version of forgiveness on my part, to realize that she was simply hard-wired to destroy. I consider myself lucky to have escaped total ruination.
Me too. I am a borderline. I found out about what was going on around me less then a year ago. My other is 63 now & I finally realized her true nature when i got sick around covid & she was happy. Then I started piecing together what sheâs been doing trying to ruin me and Rob me throughout the years. The worst part is handed up with a psychopath as the father to my second son, and he acted like a covert narcissist at first. Iâm watching these videos because Iâm realizing it now and weâre all drained and angry and I was happy go lucky and something like SpongeBob. It got passed down from his mother that threw him away and let him get abused. Of course they didnât present like this, and I didnât realize people were like this. But he takes that all his anger for her on me and my sons, and it only took until now for me to put everything together. I just simply donât think like that, and itâs almost like theyâre trying to pass the evil down more. I see it in my family but itâs nothing like this. Probably why I couldnât spot it. Thereâs a lot of general dysregulation. I shouldâve known because she was a stripper, and they say that you have to detach to do that and thatâs what makes them psychopaths, but I never put two and two together again. I thought I could just be good and nice I swear.
I was talking into the speaker to write that & he was listening this whole time & started laughing. Theyâre sick. Iâm pretty sure they sleep with one eye open because they were sexually abused or something. My mother hated it when I was happy but this is next level stuff. Iâm in therapy everyday including weekends & keep making sick realizations
I donât financially depend on him but Iâm scared of the borderline feeling. Heâs drained the life out of us
Thank you for posting this. Much love to you and your family.
Hard wired to destroy. Wow. Well said
1 tip for you guys, YOU CANT SAVE HER! RUN!
Bingo!
AMEN!!
Funny you say that as a man that was briefly married to one, I still wonder 7 years later if she was honest with her diagnosis could it have worked. I truly know it couldnât but itâs amazing how they hook you and you think there was anything real in the relationship.
They try to make you believe that they need a savior so u actually try to save them and they destroy you till there's nothing left then she's gone forever
Wow, thanks đ
This is accurate. I began having anxiety around one friend, highly regarded as a saint by many. On a vacation she accidentally unmasked to me only. Terrifying . I stepped back from our friend group but she tried to make my life miserable by manipulating mutual friends to unknowingly deliver clever cruelty.Her final act was to create friction in my marriage. Her weapon was invitations and exclusion Cruelty thru kindness and made sure you knew felt the sting. Friends are pawns.
What happened when they unmasked? What was it like
Why is she stigmatizing psychopathy?
@@Frip36 I mean that's not how stigmatizing works, but I know what youre trying to say
@@tcrijwanachoudhury How does it work?
if they can't control you, they'll control how people see you.
I've literally stopped worrying and done watching videos like this... for a few weeks don't get lost in it. You become dependent on their validation instead of a narc and your victimise your self more what is not healthy and makes you worn down after time just go outside and do something keep active âš
See things through the eye's of someone who has taken this as a profession is extremely helpful. Some don't know these things. Admittedly over indulgence in anything can be bad but knowledge comes from inquiring.
Spot on! A couple other traits or oddities they have is a lack of a startle response and the lack of a yawn response if you yawn in front of them, even a dog will yawn if they see you yawn and vice versa, but not a psychopath. Good discussion.
What's wrong with yawning if you're bored, low, or just drowsy?
@@reubenmorris487 nothing
They lack mirror neurons in the brain, which makes them devoid of empathy.
â@@blakcanis Many people doesn't yawn when others yawn. F.e. me. I'd bet that introverts do not yawn with others.
@@jomonger-g1f What I'm saying is, its something to watch for if you suspect you're dealing with an individual higher on the narcissism scale like ASPD types, psychopaths, sociopaths. Because yawning in response to anothers yawn is an unconscious genuine empathetic response. Its an automatic response, being these types lack empathy. Its something to watch for. What I've learned on this healing journey after being in a relationship with a clinically diagnosed ASPD individual and getting help from a psychologist who's studied this for 30yrs helped me figure out and heal from it. Not saying all that dont have that response are psychopatic but it is a good indicator that thats what you're dealing with and just pointing it out. Theres other little nuances that when added to the criteria pointed out here in this video that will help protect against becoming a target by these types and lack of startle response and the the lack of a yawning when coupled with these other redflags is a pretty good indicator that you're dealing with one. Another misconception is that introverts are anti social, they're not and theres alot of confusion around that. Someone diagnosed with anti social personality disorder arent introvets like we see claimed on social media, its actually quite the opposite. I made the mistake of thinking that,getting involved with one with that diagnosis. Its actually a diagnosis of psychopathic personality disorder, an inter species predator that cause a lot of emotional, financial,reputation and at times physical damage to their victims. I've spent the last 7 yrs studying these types and the CPTSD that comes with it to protect myself and heal and just pointing out other nuances and traits they exhibit outside of the main redflags that are easier to spot once you know. Just my experience and sharing things I learned along the way.đ
I really donât think this personality disorder is as rare as the statistics say. Iâve known several of these in my lifetime. Two of them stepmothers.
Some studies suggest as much as 5-7%, but I think females are under diagnosed. They're better at blending in. But that's at least 1 in 20 of the people you meet.
In the west, culture creates them. As a man in his 40s who has had many interactions with women, i would say its perhaps 5-7% that are NOT psychotic.
â@@Pushing_Pixels the reason its undiagnosed is because female psychologists are unwilling to acknowledge reality. Feminism has brainwashed women into believing "we've always been oppressed, and now its time to explore what being a woman is. I cant be shamed, and no behavior is bad in the exploration of being a liberated female" its why you cant find accountability among women. If there were more men in psychology, there would be more diagnosis of psychopathy, and narcissism.
If you frequently meet people who are dysfunctional to a higher degree (aka psychopaths) you have to figure out why YOU are attracting them.
@@francoismarion-eu3jqAgreed
I was married to a female psychopath for 25 years. I married her because I wanted a family. And she seemed perfect for me. Boy was I wrong. When the kids graduated from college, I divorced her. Of course, she blamed everything on me. I thought my mother, a narcissist, was bad. I guess I bought her "honesty." Wow - did that backfire! I've spent the past 13 years trying to figure out what happened. You really get it right. Thanks!
You married her becasue you wanted to believe in disney fairy tale.
Interesting that you identify your mother as a narcissist. I had the same pattern of narcissist mother and psychopath partner. But thanks to videos like this I worked it out before marriage. But then she tried to kill me and the police in my country struggle to do anything about thisâŠ..
At least she gave you kids.
People tend to marry their mothers or fathers when finding a suitable partner. Quite often we are blind to what our first interpretations of love truly were as children but were still interpretations of love nonetheless which we gravitate towards in our intimate lives as adults because of our parents. In retrospect your mother was a narcissist so this was your first interpretation love and found something similar in your ex wife when you decided to marry her.
I married a beautiful woman who gave me 14 years of awesomeness but when she gave birth she turned into a postpartum-Borderline nightmare & has never returned to normal
I had a frenemy like this one that I cut off recently. The look on her face when someone asked me "how do I feel" when she was within an earshot and I replied "I feel like myself" was one of the most satisfying moments of the year. Guard your hearts folks, there is real real evil out here and usually it wears the widest beaming smile.
true psychopaths arent evil, we are human animals like a leopard, I call myself a base human, ill do whatever I need to in any situation to survive and win thats it its no deeper than that, but the thing normal people cant understand is sometimes that involves violence and manipulation and to you guys it seems like "evil" because you would only do it if you wanted to be evil or hurt someone etc for us its just a tool
Your enemies come with smiles on their faces.
Watch Annie Sarnblat!
Yes they are evil.
there seems to be a lot of overlap with a covert narcissist as well - except for not needing validation and not being insecure.
thanks, lise!
Impossible to make jealous & ego-centric vs a insecure child desperate to be a god imo.
it's not math...if I smell an unknown act, I can't put them in logical normal boundaries...
don't bother - run away....
personal experience - they can't be cured - maybe tune down...
waste of time and human skin... useless bags of mostly water...all dark triads...
The female covert mid rangerâŠ.is a psychopath/ NPD with the constant need of fuel/supplyâŠ. Deadly
Yes, may cluster Bs have these traits
There are no significant difference in numbers of men vs woman psyhopatts the difference is how they act.
Its like it gets worse as they get older
@@nicholecornes1915 I guess they improve with practice đ€Ł
Perfectly explained - I always thought that I was in relationship with a narcissistic person but the psychopath description fits 100%
they are very different birds, the easiest way to differentiate is that psychopaths are very calm and callous. Narcs are emotional and reactive
I think we have a tendancy to be much more forgiving to women, so we diagnose them with less severe labels for the same behavior.
This is possible. Though, I think in this case, specifically, the issue is that psychopathy in men and women tend to differ, so using men's criteria to diagnose a woman would almost always result in a negative diagnosis because they (typically) behave differently. It's a similar situation with autism as well. A lot of girls were not diagnosed with autism because female behaviors and male behaviors of the disorder present differently. It wasn't until very recently that this was recognized, and we're seeing an upsurge in female dianoses of autism. I suspect the same will happen with psychopathic women now that there is more research and understanding on how females with the disorder show up differently than their male counterparts (again, typically.)
They are clever because they read how deeply you have fallen in love with them and use that to their full advantage. To some people my ex seemed like an attractive airhead and ditzy but she was extremely jealous and deliberate. They will abuse their victim but then back off when you resist but not for long and then they go back to abusing. I knew something wasn't right when she started disrespecting me by saying things that were very low and hurtful. Things that crossed the line. And then the next morning act like nothing happened. I would see her text notification or her calling and I would cringe with anxiety not knowing if i was getting Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde.
This is exactly what I went through and am recovering from. Exactly.
If you love me like you say you do then you would..
Dr. Heckle or Mrs Hide.
@@christopher-xi2ey Yep
@@Deepintent Dr heckle and Mrs jive
I once loved a girl. Deeply. And now due to her psycopathy, the love turned to absolute hate. How can someone be healthy after that?! I just feel deep rage and burning hatred each time I see her now.
She told me i was paranoid and insecure when i confronted her about sex texts whit several for me unknown men.
That i was trying to control her or she no longer trust me after i saw what she did.
Twelve years and three kids, but the worst started after last kid. If you have not lived whit people like this,its hard to imagine.
Thank you for your Chanel.
ive been studying this problem for years now after an encounter with one. the ammount of people who thought i was wrong about her when explaining her game was astounding. i sincerely appreciate you for bringing this problem to more people
Yep no one in my family believes me about my brother, my mom gets really disappointed in me and even asked me how I can say such horrible things about him when I am simply telling her about things he did to me. She doesn't believe me at all. My dad thinks I am exaggerating. Either way everyone thinks he is simply fantastic and saintly despite whatever he does to them. I just don't get it. It's like they can't see reality and don't want to believe it.
People who have never experienced a person like that Or don't have an Understanding of these things have a hard time understanding What you're telling them or even believing that a person can be like that . I think Some of it is naivete but dealing with a true psychopath or malignant narcissist Or anybody in the cluster b category is so outside of their realm of experience It's almost as if they think people like that. Do not exist. I had a friend like that and I try to warn him about what he was dealing with and he thought it was just all mumble jumbo until about 6 months later.
He could not wrap his mind around what happened All the manipulation, the lies the deceit, not knowing what was real or what wasn't. It was as if he had ptsd.
My ex in a nutshell. Highly skilled eye surgeon but had 0 issues cheating and monkey branching. She initially was very vulnerable about her past mistakes and cheating. Turns out she hadn't changed at all, She was just giving me a foretelling of what was to come.
MANY surgeons are psychopaths, actually. Which is an advantage in their profession. You don't want a surgeon panicking when something goes (very) wrong during surgery ....
Once a cheater........
Sorry, dude.
@@user-he6rs8xi7u Is what it is, I learned a lot
One of the more interesting things I've learned in life is this: very successful women share many traits with very successful men, including infidelity, dishonesty, and hubris. For many years these traits were regarded as exclusively or mainly 'male' traits. It turns out they're just character traits that a certain type of ladder-climber adopts to get what they want.
best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour
I was in a relationship with a woman who seemed great. One night she had me tied up in the bed, which was something we did here and there. Suddenly she started smothering me. She told me a while back that she had a thing for that, but I told her hell no. So this one night she had me vulnerable and just did it, didn't care if I wanted it or not. When she let go I screamed and begged her to stop, but I could see in her eyes, there was no empathy, just a predatory, lustful look. That's the best way I can describe it. She was enjoying hearing me beg and cry (I did literally cry). She kept smothering me on and off and letting me get enough air to survive. After she came she immediately apologized but also acted like it was no big deal, saying stuff like "I just got carried away, sorry." Then she started hugging me and saying stuff like "it's okay, I'm here for you." I was so freaked out and traumatized I just begged to be let go, but she refused until I "calmed down" and she knew I wouldn't be mad at her. Eventually she let me go and I swear I was in a state of shock for days. Luckily my brain came to its senses and I got the hell away from her. I'll never forget though how this person that I had trusted enough to tie me up had suddenly changed to the point that I was just a piece of meat to her and I had no hope of talking her out of what she was doing. Very scary.
Sounds like a prosecution for sexual assault and battery and attempted homicide.
Thank you so much. Brilliant video.đđ
I previously thought that my ex girlfriend from 5 years ago was a narcissist but I know realise that she was a psychopath.
Thanks for your very detailed traits of a psychopath, she ticked every box.
She ruined my life and left me homeless and broke and no friends but after 5 years with no contact I have my own business, great work colleagues and someone very special in my life, the polar opposite of my psychopath ex.
Life can be amazing after living with a psychopath, leave the psychopath in the rearview mirror and never look back.
You just described my last wife.
Controlling hateful gaslighting seems normal until I married her rage and aggression and superiority complex.
I was used until I sold land tried to show her I wasn't like the last guy,
Show her enough love so she understands enough love will bring her around.
OMG you exactly described her
Anything I said was used against me to the negative and I was always explaining my day so she understands I'm not looking at other women, told me that her last partner was still stalking her so I was protective and got torn down until I had nothing left.
I was close to suicidal or murderous in a need to survive
I finally after all my resources were gone,left her.
She literally did this to me and doesn't care anything about me and willing to hurt the children to hurt me.
I felt like I needed to be the shield between them and her to protect them.
She's in Kentucky and I'm in Missouri now, may our paths never ever ever ever meet again
It's been years since we were together and I'm still afraid of relationships because of this.
No amount of love can fix them, because it's not an emotion they can feel. They actually see love as another weakness to exploit. The more you love them, the weaker you look in their eyes.
What are you talking about? That's just women, dude.
S**t-testing, using old words against you, jealousy, monkey-branching.
Standard female behavior.
You just failed a heap of her tests and she lost respect.
Probably a little paranoia or whatever in there, but you're essentially describing the average female when she doesn't respect you.
â@@Pushing_Pixels cause they have had a lack of love growing up. It's really fuckd what It can do.
I wouldn't be afraid of relationships just because of that, you should hear my story
@@Pushing_PixelsSo very true .
My sister has been diagnosed with Bdp however I think she is more psychopathic. She has behaved manipulatively since a child and says she has always felt "different". She has done many nasty things to me and never apologised. She "doesn't remember"....apparently. She has no love for her children. She is self obsessed. I've now cut her out my life. Nobody else in the family will believe she's anything other than perfect. I think this is half the reason why she is the way she is. I believe her golden child status has shaped all of this.
Sounds more like a narcissist. (Psychopaths... are NOT the "golden child." That said, Borderlines, Narcs and "secondary psychos" increasingly today seem often almost as "interchangeable..." as their interdependent 'manipulation' and 'control,' strategies!)
@@williamtiffee3799
Definitely narcissistic and I told her that too. So is our father. But she's also done cruel things. She was supposed to look after my cat whilst we went on holiday at her house. She let him out after half an hour. He went missing for 2 months. But all the documentaries I've watched say a female BPD is a female psychopath. They also consider these to be shifting States rather than fixed according to the scenario. So a bdp becomes npd becomes aspd and vice versa. Its just sad so many of us end up in their midst. Needless to say, I'm not talking to her anymore nor my dad who not only justified her actions but sanctioned them at the time. Neither apologised. The cat was traumatised, found almost dead. She didn't care one bit.
@@smiler1327 My experience with Cluster B people (after) looking into these dis- orders... to what they may well, be tapped- into (and psych, since before my mom got her Masters in psych, around 1990ish) has been quite 'educational...' particularly with AirBnB hosts and guests, mainly in Northern, California. (Between the Borderlines, Narcs and 'psycho' flips... and/ or drug smugglers, users and dealers... it made some some rather 'enlightening' stays.)
I have a covert narc mother, who (after 35 years with supposed 'borderline' I've personally seen do the "psychopathic persona flip," several times... and finally recorded the last time they went nearly: "demonic") is now alone, in deteriorating health... and a father ("flying monkey," co- dependent) who was foolish enough to marry a second one that was/ is an even more f'd- up, covert (malignant, fake-charming, born again, front- facade "southern belle," altruistic narc) so have been dealing with them for 40, 45, and 55ish years, respectively. (And have other relatives that are "narcish..." to full- blown, NPDers. I've personally HAD IT... and just want a "new life," so likely soon going "no contact..." or back to visiting for a day or two, perhaps once per year. I can't deal with them into their 80s. And narcs oddly tend to live very, long lives. (Because they only get WORSE... over time. Particularly once you've "called them OUT," on it...)
I have one younger brother and a stepbrother and sister, I never see. (The stepmother monitors the phone, a 'joint' email, and if I or my younger brother 'visits' the narc step mother gets 'uneasy' within hours... and I almost never get any "alone time," with my own father... which is of course then with a "reprogrammed- shell" of his once very "manly," former self. (45 years, of this... and he's still with her.) It amazes me how many 'loyal' SOs, never leave... which is what his father did (stayed) which is only 'admirable' when your spouse ISN'T... a Cluster Bomb! Marxist- Postmodern "feminism," higher academia, divorce and/ or narcs will DESTROY families. (Even when they otherwise remain 'involved' with "community..." to "keep up "appearances" to the outside world for "supply," related. They still are "themselves," at home.)
@@williamtiffee3799 Sounds like hell on earth. The sooner you go no contactâŠnot even once per year, the better. Iâm I my 30s and my parents are 60s/70s and I have no intention of attending their funerals. My grand dad a narc lived till over 100yrs , so I canât imagine dealing with my psycho dad for another 30 .
I have no idea if I've ever dealt with a psychopath, but I've certainly been the target of mind games, and felt guilty after distancing myself from someone who I couldn't distinguish if they liked me or were trying to destroy me. This helped me put down the guilt. Thank you
You definitely have. Sociopaths and psychopaths are over 5% of the population, so thatâs at least one in twenty people.
We all have. Especially women
My mother was a psychopath, I had to give her my worth and after 45 years of psychic cannibalism I had to go No Contact for self preservation and she died 3 years later. That almost happened twice before but I was too unaware of my feelings of guilt and loyalty she syphoned.
Psychic cannibalism, that's it exactly that's a good description.
Its funny to me you you use the word cannibalism. Cos I do the same. Only 2 months into fully realizing. I am now 36 years old and done.
I think she even tried to kill me when I was a kid. And has killed a baby before me by means of purposeful abortion. Yup. She still hasnt denied my accusation she killed a baby for the purpose of killing a baby and nothing more.
Sick individuals. Yeah so the cannibalism can be litteraly physical also.
I'm not surprised. Even when they become mothers, psychopaths don't change. There is not the motherly love normal people feel for their off springs. They truly are evil.
These people have traded their soul for Narcissism and are now dead inside..And what they hate about you is that you have a healthy soul and they are very jealous of that and they very much WANT IT! And are trying to steal yours. This is why they get angry when you fight them on their Narcissism because THEY WANT A SOUL! Every Time they get supply from you they take a piece of your soul and it feels soooooo good to them They want to take your soul and give you theirs..A soul exchange,. their dead soul for your healthy soul. Every time they get supply from you, there is an exchange, they feel good and you feel bad. This is why after a while you start feeling dead inside yourself.. This is why victims says they are evil. because they feel this..
And this is why victims get abandoned once them soul is completely emptied and the narcisista start a new cans of beans
To eat another soul like a can of ...
Psychopaths are born that way. It's not because of any particular reason. They didn't hypothetically sell anything. That's a sociopath and a narcissist.
Psychopaths are not narcissists. Donât mix up all
Thank you for that. Much appreciated. It seems very authentic, like you unfortunately have close, intimate knowledge of it
My older sister is defo a psyhlchopath. She threw me down the stairs when i was 3 months old. But get this, my parents made her the golden child? My childhood was horrendous as i was her play toy. In later years this turned into covert smear campaigns. I am now completely outside the family. I've come to realise she's been playing the long game for getting our parents estate for herself. I would argue there are more than 2%.
30% +
Wow so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you have a happy and good life now.
90 plus percent đ
I know I guy whoâs been arrested 3 times, had 58 calls to his residence, his child taken away, and 6 temporary protection orders. They were all dissolved and dropped. A truly humble and loving man according to his family, friends, exes, and community. There were no consequences for the mother.
Deluth model for the fail.
I was 3 times in jail in 2.5 years after never even have a speeding ticket in my first 44 years...case was always dropped...I loved her but finally I had the courage to leave her....I wish I didn't wait bcuz I could never be able to make our "relationship" work...
Sounds familiar to me. I wasn't so lucky as this guy you know. I'm in California. Laws regarding domestic disputes changed after the OJ Simpson/Nicole Brown trial and took discretion away from responding officers. It also created a bias that heavily favors females. I was arrested for felony domestic battery upon returning from a bike ride. We had just had an argument because my kids had found my wife's meth 3 times in a month. I confronted her and told her that she needed to enter drug treatment voluntarily and if she didn't she would face a mental health evaluation against her will and then drug treatment. I went for a bike ride to give her time to consider her options and to cool things down. I came back to find police and an ambulance in my driveway. She had chosen an option I had not considered. She had one injury on her left hand not made by me and not there when I left. I believe she laid her left hand flat on a table or the wall and whacked it with some blunt object. Then called the police. Because of the nature of the wound it was felony domestic battery. A strike. Overzealous prosecutors would not grant me a release on my own recognizance and I could not get bail because she would not cooperate. I was boxed in and forced to plead guilty to get out of jail after 14 days. If I hadn't I would have lost everything. I ended up losing everything anyway. I tried to do the right thing by my wife and my kids and I got burned at the stake for it. Had to attend 176 hours of anger management. This was during the covid lockdowns so it was extremely difficult and stressful. I haven't seen or spoken to any of my 3 kids since this happened 8 years ago. I was a full time, fully engaged dad for 19 years(to my oldest son. My youngest spent the entirety of her teens without me in her life) and then the next day I was not. They were what I was most worried about from the beginning and I got shut out of their lives while she got to continue to abuse them with impunity.
I know a guy who had something very similar happen to him. He ended up going to prison for 4 years. Killed himself while he was there. Poor guy had 5 kids he was trying to protect from his addict wife and they treated him harshly. It happens alot more then people can even imagine. You know why? Because district attorneys often have narcissistic qualities also. Narcissists tend to relate to and side with other narcissistic types in court cases. That and they don't play fair. They don't hear your story or see you as an individual. They see you as a chess match and numbers to pad their reelection campaign. No one even cared about my kids or what would become of them after their judgement. They destroyed my family. And there's not a damn thing I can do about it but try to make sense of it and leave comments on CZcams...and that isn't working out so well for me. Would not wish this on my worst enemy. I still wake up at night randomly punching the wall. Fighting an invisible enemy and trying to rescue my kids. They may as well have killed me. I wish they would have because I can't do it myself.
â@@jimig399 I put loads into keeping my family together and encouraging my child's dad's rehab who also has a personality disorder. The system wrecked the work I put it and then he went off and got someone else pregnant. The system does not care about family,they don't consider the damage they do to people. I'd never trust them to do anything justifiable. It is a corrupt system and I hate it
@@karriesaunders8597 me too. Criminal and family courts need to be torn down. They are causing more heartache and trauma for Americans then anything else. Nothing good comes from any of it. Even my own attorney lied to me and seemed to be working for the other side. My kids and I got messed up by it. I haven't seen or spoken to my baby girl in over 8 years. I loved all my kids but she had a special place in my heart. She was my baby. My youngest daughter. The last I knew I'd ever have. I enjoyed spending time with her and spoiling her. I know she missed me. I know she cried herself to sleep at night thinking about me. Because I did. And no one cared at all. If I was a violent man I would probably do something very violent at this point. I can't seem to make myself as much as I see the necessity of it. I never needed a single hour of anger management let alone 176 hours. I hope you find some resolve and get some restitution for what you suffered. It happens alot more than people think or know.
The only relationship of my life was with a psychopath. 7 year on I've finally started to like myself again and believe in myself
the last advice is gold men - believe me. dont even speak of her as they tend to use anything they can as revenge including litigation abuse. you will end up going back over and over and feel as though you are charmed its as if you are fighting other forces to get away. they are capable of evil.
Dark Souls - there is a book I read called Dark Souls. Describes narcissist / sociopaths well. Add psychopath to the list.
This is excellent advice and on target. From my own experience the BEST time to recognize this is BEFORE marriage and family because the potential damage to children is ABSOLUTELY heartbreaking and is incredibly difficult to unravel and heal. So when you see the signs DO NOT excuse them, try to "understand her/him". Pray for them, hope for them to heal, but DO NOT bring them into your life believing "If they just had some patience and understanding, all will be well". These are DEEP issues that WILL NOT CHANGE.
The little clips of the guy getting all analytical about actively being strangled by a boa constrictor were hilarious! đ
Great description of my sister in law. The only thing missing was the grandiosity, and sense of self importance that she shares with my brother. I was discarded many years ago. Thanks for reminding me of what I am not missing.
My brother and sister in law are like this. Always smiling while saying and doing mean things. Scary thing is, sheâs a nurse, and they move around a lot đ€ đł
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I think this is about my former "friend" und co-worker, who loved to be loved by everybody...especially by those who could not easilly see all those traits in her.. This description is really great.
A note to the truth part:
Early on they tell you âsomething theyâve never told anyone else beforeâ (which might be a true story but the lie falls in the fact they tell everybody that trauma of theirs) PLUS
Something I noticed in all my NPD-like relationships was how theyâd say
â You know how I tell you everything/ how we tell each other everythingâ hoping I wouldnât remember all the occasions where they just point blank refused to be open or honest when I would ask or question them about something lol
A year since Iâve seen her, and Iâm still ruminating on how much she hurt me, how much she took from me, how much she gaslighted me.
That is terrible.
The odd thing is that I met the ex narc at work. She's a larger lady and I didn't look at her in that way. Then, I fell in. Got ghosted, blamed myself. Hurt more than anything. Then the passive aggressiveness, dismissive, avoidant, the pain and suffering like nothing I have EVER experienced. We split 4 times after the "I'm not putting up with that shit".
She was rude to me on the phone and I called her rude. She dumped me. Days later, the stress of it all caused me to have a seizure in December.
I text her to tell her. Nothing, she abandoned me.
I'm still off work. Lost, but stronger but still perplexed as to how I fell for it. I thought I was the idiot but I'm not.
I've read everything I could to understand the Narcissist. Even the DSM manual doctors use to identify NPD etc.
To be fair. I feel sorry for her. I'll get over it. She, is stuck with this illness if you will, protecting her very fragile ego. Regardless, she's unstable and weak. Pathetic and dumb.
I'd hate my life to be anything like hers. So, I'm the winner here. Not the losser. Thanks â€ïž
Dang, Lise is just good! Kind people just keep going back for more thinking they can fix the situation; accepting responsibility for their part, when they essentially did nothing wrong in the beginning. It's a frightening crazy train being around these evil people.
i had one of these monsters when i was 24yo. She was a 43yo cougar. that creature still gives me nightmares.
Same
28 and she was 39....a quasi religious monster who cheated.
I dated a psychopath for a month. She destroyed things, cheated, lied and held a gun to her own head, beat herself etc. completely narcissistic to the bone. She forced her way into my house multiple times just to pretend that I was crazy for going no contact while she made food or coffee while I called the police. The one thing I gleaned was she had no real self esteem.
@Keep Away - THEY are so boring to say the least trust that I knew how to pacify her, but even three times a day with toys wasnât enough to keep her sedated enough to live with. I would put her in a coma and sheâd wake up pissed again. It was really the narcissistic behavior and cheating that got me. Whenever I couldnât take any more of her attitude and sent her home, sheâd call some poor ugly guy she could control. Before I knew what he looked like I was genuinely threatened, but after seeing his instagram, I just felt bad for him and knew I could let go because she had no self esteem or self respect.
In the beginning she behaved as she thought I wanted, changing her opinions to suit me, crazy sex etc. In the middle she tried running me, but by the end, I saw through her and she hated it. None of it was real.
Female psychopaths are insecure and can't control their emotions that's what separates them from male psycopaths but then again all women are insecure to some degree and majority of women can't control their emotions either so that's just her being a woman not a psycopath
Sounds more like BPD co-morbid with sociopathy.
I'm terrified.. It's been 4 months and mine has done a few of these in the last 2 days... Including Beat herself and tried to break into my house after I stopped responding...
She's not a psychopath, more like a narcissist.
No contact is definitely the way to go! After a year and a half of the wildest rollercoaster ride of my life, I decided that I had put up with too much for too long and made a complete break. For months she tried to make me the bad guy accusing me of cheating (because I moved on and started a new relationship). I ignored all her manipulative texts. After six months, she texted me the first, last and only apology I ever got from her. I ignored that too. A year later I saw her publicly brow beating her next victim in a parking lot both verbally and physically. He moved along too. Many years later she tried draw me back in after her latest break up. I was polite but ignored her attempts to draw me back in. During our relationship, it was always her way or the highway and she was constantly trying to inlist me as her advocate to break back into social circles that she had manager to alienate herself from. If someone reminds me of her, I avoid them as well. No need to make that mistake twice.
Wow. This video blew my mind. You've just described my last 11 year marraige. When I heard "phycopath" I always though Norman Bates and She wasn't that extreme. Now I realize that's not true. This video really shed some light on my exwife. You gave me some major epiphany moments. Thank you for sharing knowledge. đ
I met a definite (majority) female psychopath a long time ago, there was a room of about 20 people socialising, she walked in and went from person to person basically finding the ones that could be of advantage to her, negotiating said advantage and moving on to the next person, like someone going from one Atm to another, no embarrassment at being so blatant. I'd had experience with Coverts and BPDs along with another friend in the room and we were giving each other knowing glances, we were the only 2 she didn't ATM. I talked with this woman maybe 7/8 times after that and always demonstrated perfect charm for the given audience and seldom boring but such a blatant mercenary she was never getting anywhere near my life. They have a way of convincing people doing something for them is the thing you want to do most in the entire world. Just those few glances with my friend guaranteed she never got too close to me, they don't like being busted but I can see how people do fall for them.
Exactly what I'm going through with my current relationship. Thank you for the clarification!
Get out. They won't change, it will just get worse.
Get out and prepare for the depression anxiety and utter blackness that overwhelms you in no contact
@@Anythingwilldo296 this is exactly what happened to me Anythingwilldo. I am exposing her on the internet so anyone who googles her name can make the right decision. Please do the same or she will find another victim.. We really should have a law that creates the list of psychopaths/sociopaths just like sex offenders and gaslighting should be a crime like it is in England. But our lawmakers will not pass such a bill because there are twice as many psychopaths/sociopaths in Washington DC as the national average.
Run for the hills
Lise, you're the most important resource on CZcams for struggling men who have fallen victim to women like you describe. I'm definitely a Phil and it's because I have a checkered past and carry a lot of guilt. My abuser saw this weakness and exploited it while promising me a completely fake, fabricated future involving some aspects of her real self and some that she made up. Long story short, once I found out she'd been giving me a false name I found that she's married - and had begun talking to me 11 days after her wedding. The husband and I have been in contact and I have given him all the insight I can to make him see what she is. I've gone no contact with both of them now. She's not my problem anymore and hopefully the poor deluded idiot can keep her in line for a time so she doesn't do this to anybody else.
Sounds like he'll have her until she lines up her next source of supply.
â@@android584 I would like to believe the husband will find his balls if she does this again, but he's a COLE. He thinks he can fix her. They're perfect for each other đ
Just walked out on a woman like this. In the end, I had been portrayed as "the devil" in her personal scenario. She played the role of a "born again virgin" living down abuse as a youngster at the hands of a coven that included her family. She played on my sympathies like I was a violin. I got out before making the mistake of marrying her and adopting her two children from previous failed relationships.
She did get a substantial amount of money from me during our time together.
Thank you đ!
You have just described my ex-wife and filled in the rest of the holes in the illusion of what I experienced knowing something was not right but I could not find the knowledge until after the discard.
20 years, 4 children, married to an unknowingly clinically diagnosed Cluster B - BPD - Covert / Malignant NPD - MPD - DID - PTSD - ASPD - HPD - and much more. She hid behind a VERY STRONG & WELL CONSTRUCTED MASK until she had a nervous breakdown where all her past childhood and trauma came rushing in like a 1,000 FT tall tsunami.
Years of emotional, mental, verbal, physical and financial abuse and destruction until she turned me into an option.
Done!
Gone!
No contact!
Dead & Deafening Silence!
The Narcissist and The Empath is a battle of the soul; armor up!
Stay alert!
Stay alive!
Stay strong!
Peace âïž
Thank you Lise! Best relatable content for men, it's refreshing and relieving.
I have now evolved my diagnosis of my wife to Borderline Narssicistic Psychopath (BNP). It's a cocktail of cluster B; addictive, intoxicating, and poisoning.
(And I appreciate you wearing modest clothing in the video, considering most viewers on here are men)
BNP - very good one!
Indeed. As there is nothing 'static' about the (de)evolution, and attempting to 'compartmentalize' to 'diagnosis' (to "prescribe...") is futile with the female "Cluster B Chameleon..." varietal, in particular. (And the "Covert Narcissistic Psychopath" in "female," cloaking modus... is the most dangerous... Notice that many also seem to also: "all daughters!" And of course SHE primarily raises, the offspring.) BNP, CNP and FMS for Flying Money Syndrome, "enablers?" (Maybe Sam Vaknin 'coined,' the latter??)
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â@@chrisspi555 I think he means, the broken guys watching to learn, would develop unhealthy attachments or unreal feelings for this doctor, in their vulnerable state, because an attractive woman is also in a helpful / "savior" role and one would see comments about HER instead of the contents of her video.
â@@chrisspi555so now we know how you dress...
A woman pursued me for the last 9 months. The attention was nice, and we seemed to have a lot in common, but there was always an underlying tone of envy and judgement. The dealbreaker for me was after they attacked the character of one of my close friends. I told her I felt hurt to hear her denigrate friends of mine that she did't really know, and she doubled down on calling him names and then replied that I shouldn't take things people say personally and that I will learn that in therapy.
Sounds like a real gem đ
At least you did the right thing and don't neglect what someone do, even if you feel in love. It could be a narcissist too.
You should have told her, Youll learn about lesbianism in prison
My ex-wife meets all of the qualifications for Narcissistic Personality Disorder; I think she tends toward psychopathy, too. She abused the children, destroyed the family, destroyed the family business, then went on to successfully run for public office. All the time fooling hundreds, if not thousands of people. Not a hint of remorse was ever exhibited by here.
Wow that sounds diabolical
Wow. I get it
Politics suits them.
IS SHE IN OFFICE NOW, whatâs her name?
I suspect many in public service are psychopaths.
Boy I wish I'd have seen this video in my youth. I married someone I believe has BPD. By the time I finally convinced myself I had to escape I had nothing left, inside and out. I still feel like I've lost the joy from my life and it's been 6 years since I left.
I do this for myself also...I try to find joy in anything, even the fact I have another day to see the sun..
This is brilliant so well explained thank you! God bless you men stuck in these relationships with these demons. I pray you all get freedom & love what you deserve
100%. My Ex is BPD and had comorbid dissociations. Narcissistic Sadistic was her primary dissociative identity. Very dangerous to men because you are not looking for it. I thought that initially she was covert NPD. Later I figured it out.
In my experience, this is precisely correct.
I was with a woman like this for about seven years. She knew a lot about me, and used it like a bludgeon.
Once the problems started, my research suggested she might be a covert narcissist, but I eventually spotted traits that looked more like antisocial , borderline, sociopath etc.
In therapy, she triangulated her therapist. Lying, stealing, cheating, mental and even physical abuse were all standard operating procedures for her. She tried to have me arrested claiming l was the abuser, and eventually began to harass my family and even aged relatives on the other side of the country.
She once claimed a doctor told her she could get away with killing her partner, based on what she described as her "PMS".
I left for good over three and a half years ago, and have since found out that the smear campaign had begun years prior. She continues to harass me online with numerous fictitious identities, and while I am in no way qualified to diagnose her illness, l believe she is indeed a psychopath.
Absolutely
She's relentless.....May God deal with her....and not let her use , abuse another person!!!
Yea women do this petty shit they use stuff against you it's fucking pathetic never marry a woman guys
Definitely. These cluster b names: borderline, narcissist, sociopath, etc. they're all names for the same condition, just different areas of the spectrum of it. They'll all idolize, then split to devalue you, and when they do, their psychosis will show. Some like narcissists will discard you for good and run smear campaigns on your name. Others like borderlines will treat you black or white, all good or all bad. Then they will come back, then repeat the cycle, many times in some cases. The resulting damage is the same: narcissistic abuse.
8 years with one. Still dealing and healing. Its beyond comprehemsion at the start. Then you see the patterns.. Then you see the patterns are in each of them via others experiences. It really is like they are possessed by pure evil. Zero humanity in them.
I thought my ex was a narcissist but this really fits, from the first word and onward.
Spot on! The one out of my life loves mind games, think so highly of herself, vain and is really creepy like touching male colleagues who are good-looking, never give you a straight answer, lazy and a miser.
Women tend to be more emapthic, so they probably notice male psychopaths more readily than men who are generally less empathetic.
Add in the dominant social narrative of men are abusers while women are they victims, we collectively have a massive blind spot when it comes to recognising certain personality disorders amongst women.
This is why it's So important to look at the subject through a gender neutral lens.
Anyone can be a victim and anyone can be an abuser.
Thanks for the video and highlighting this issue of female psychopaths.
Female psychopaths don't have real empathy though. It's entirely strategic in order to manipulate people. They understand how people work, and they use that, but they can't connect on any emotional level. A good way of putting it I heard was: they know the lyrics but they can't hum the tune.
35 years of hell for me. I was 19 and she was 15 her mother was 29. The two evil woman groomed me and trapped me in under 19 weeks. Trying to hold things together for the 4 grandkids that I still share with her. Since I met them both, they have both been into murder investigations. People die around that family. Brutal. Canât wait to go to heaven
Kevin get out now please!!! I know your head thinks you canât but you truly can with help!! In a year you can be happy. Praying for you honey.
Thanks for confirming that propensity to murder.
Please help me figure this out. Iâm 56 and itâs still going.
@@kevie1166 Take your distance as far as possible, perhaps pretending you have another reason, while still taking care of grandkids?
Thatâs illegal and weird! You were 19 dating a damn 15 year old??
They may only be 1% in general, but in power careers banking and music they are concentrated and represent up to 7%
i read somewhere that 20% of CEOs, doctors and teachers have high Psy traits..i suppose they seek out jobs were they have control over other people
If you have ever taken a Myers-Briggs (MB) personality test and come out as ENFJ or INFJ then you will also recognise how ENFJ and INFJ personality traits also overlap greatly with PHIL and COLE. There is also growing evidence that correlates people who test as MB ENFJ or INFJ with being the victims of Cluster Bs. I tested as ENFJ but close to INFJ. These are the two rarest MB personalty types, and as with Lise's PHIL and COLE, it's easy to see how those with Psychopathic or Narcissistic traits would just 'love' us to bits (and we will be in bits when they have finished with us.)! It's essential to be aware of who you are and learn, against your natural instincts, to spot and act on red flag early. Most people will see them far earlier and easier than us and run (fast). We must learn to do the same - sad but true!
INFJ-A male:
Had 1 psychopath and 1 narcissist
@@patienceobongoINFJ -BPD/Cluster B w/ Psychopathy.
I can see by your content that you have met my wife. I am 3 months no contact after fleeing for my life. At 2 months no contact she set the apartment we used to share on fire with my cats in it, killing one. I was able to collect the surviving cat from Animal Rescue. She is now on a smear campaign in which she claims I abused her in the exact ways that she abused me. She is using the search for the dead cat as a means to hoover and publicly shame me, accusing me of cruelty and inaction although we both know she killed the cat. It's effing sick.
The cats i rescued from my experience are the only thing back then that kept me here during and after. Man ready your comment. Huge hugs from one big cat lover to another. †My 10 best years ruined and now I'm done. Its just me and cats.
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The observation of mind reading is accurate. Even when texting, she demanded voice messages.
I'm sure it's to hear the voice inflection.
She dropped me a year ago. However, she came back a few weeks ago with an apology.
I kept her at arms length. Within two days, she was talking to me about my "traumatic" childhood.
(Wasn't great, but I didn't become a psycho)
She isn't that adept at manipulation. Nice try, though.
I knew she hadn't changed.
Within two days, she flew into a blind rage. Ah yes, good times!
The next day.
I sent her a couple of chapters from an audio book on redpill.
Along with an insulting meme.
The chapters alluded to the fact that I recognize female persuasions, and I'm not buying it.
She blocked me.
I warned her in a veiled way that I won't tolerate any bullshit this time.
I figured she was BPD, but she has some narcissism, misandry,
and psychopathy on the side.
If anyone is in this position, I strongly suggest that you prove that you can read them....
Then they should give up and look for a weaker target.
These people are pawns of the evil one. They are demonized & you can't make this up. They are intuitive, cunning and manipulative because it's supernatural. This power is from the dark realm.
I got chills through the whole video. I knew the relationship I got out of was abusive and she was likely a narcissist, but I think I may have been dealing with a bit more then that.
I got chills too, the people that are targeting me or by the hundreds and they are following a spirit that is trying to destroy my life.
You think you had it bad with one person, try having it bad with the hundreds
I believe it begins in school - why I hated hanging out with other girls - there is an infestation of them in the world đ
Well, sorry to disappoint you, but it begins at home, at the hands of our caregivers or lack of caregivers.
â@@alvodin6197 it could begin in either one, wherever there is a weakness and negative influence first, or one could be abusive but covert and instigate a response at the other place, it's probably not very simple. Someone with a good home life will be much more likely to overcome a traumatic event, even if it happens at school. I think Ill homeschool my children because I don't trust other kids, their families, even teachers who I have many of in my family.
@@alvodin6197 Sorry to disappoint you, but evidently you seem to have overlooked the fact that school staff & faculty are responsible at that point. Your points on the home foundation is sound and agreeable as a foundation of it, however, Iâm still inclined to believe that it begins to manifest in school, and where it is noticed the most. As a former elementary teacher, of many years, I speak from experience. Many who seemed to bring disorder everywhere they went, without a care, wasnât recognized in the home. It was their ânormalâ.
@@Freud_Mayweather Iâm definitely inclined to agree. My point was mainly, as a former classroom teacher, that it is school where kids are exposed to society outside of their family on their own (where their dysfunction may be normal to them) and contrary to the: customs, laws, and rules of society. Itâs where the odd behaviors are often first noticed and reported.
Its horrifying how you just described my ex, 28 years of being gaslighted manipulated and controlled, she separated me from every one and when I finally woke up to the abuse she found a man in his seventies started cheating, 20 years older he was and she married him within 6 months of the divorce.
Thank you Lise for putting these info out there. I struggled to find information on female factor 1 psychopaths (I suspect my mother to be one). I guess, compared to factor 2 females and male psychopaths in general, they are too sneaky to get into troubles with law enforcement and their destruction plays out relationally, on victims within their closest circle who often simply cannot figure out what the heck had happened to them (or they had gone insane and no one would believe them anyway)... so there rarely is any reporting them to law enforcement or social or public services. Sneaky creatures they are indeed, they fly under the radar.
I was married to someone with ASPD. That was the most traumatic experience of my life. The level of lies and deception was something i thought was either only men, or in horror movies.
I lived that horror movie. She lied to me about everything (and iâm not exaggerating). She faked 3 pregnancies and tried killing my dog. Luckily, I proved in Court that she Frauded me into marriage and the courts actually granted my annulment. 2 years removed and i will never be the same man again.
Wow that is scary. I hope your life gets better and happier as time goes by.
I was entangled for 1-1/2 years and it took me to the brink....4 years on, much better now but still recovering.
I was deeply naive & arrogant (thinking I could fix the 'relationship').....the worst encounter of my life....I don't even consider them human......once I learned about reactive abuse, that was what helped me get out for good. great video.
Very interesting. Thank you Lise. Iâve had my ex labelled as a Narcissist ever since my lightbulb moment but, after listening to this, I think she was likely a psychopath.
There's a big difference between those two...psychopaths are rare...sociopaths ain't so...
Maybe a malignant narcissist?
Hard to determine if you are not an experienced professional and have at least 40 hours...
For me, The phrase eyes are the window to the soul is the idea that you can understand a person's emotions and sometimes thoughts by looking into his or her eyes...
Narcs can't watch you in the eyes coz they are scared, sociopaths can...
â@@mariojanaf5474 who cares which one, they both go in the garbage
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well, you can turn back on one of them...and barely survive...on the second 50/50...
first would pay to get you underground, and second will do it himself...
@@mariojanaf5474 I donât think you need to be a professional to know that a person is mentally ill we must normal person can tell when a person is off after we see red flags but we just clueless on these disorders because we never met people like that
This explains the covert Narcs I've known who didn't have low self esteem.
even being out of it for 2 years at this point hearing this triggers a rage inside me I don't think "normies" can comprehend... That witch ruined my life... She took everything I ever worked for down to the last penny... used the courts silence me with false allegations of DV and child abuse... Turned my family against me... havent seen my kids in 15 months... There are days when I have to really ask myself is today the day, I just become the monster they have painted me. DO I indulge in the hatred? She is a psychopath narcissist who conned me for 11 years... The moment she realized things were never going back to the way they were. AKA her fu*king around on me and me NEVER going to agree to an open marriage HA! don't make me laugh...
"Things don't have to change much... I can still love you and be intimate with you, but I want another... Find my other side of happiness because you're just a homebody don't ever wanna do anything... why can't you just do what I ask why can't you just give me what I want!"
absolute parasite
And you YOURSELF GAVE HER THIS POWER
John Iâm just glad you got out alive. Horrible mind games. As far asan open relationship wow. BUT that was the Diamond that got you out of there. Your Queen is out there I promise â€ïžđGod bless you.
I would love to go Rambo for you so your suffering ended and she was forced to justice.
This lady is absolutely correct about this subject, thinking back it was like she narrated my "relationship" with my ex. Just watching this is very helpful, and extremely liberating.
I used to think my ex was a covert narcissist but now I am not so sure. She definitely had no empathy or guilt but she could be a little insecure but maybe that was an act. I started to get so anxious around her that I knew I had to get away from her. I wasted 7 years of my life with her but I know some people who have wasted more.
I had a girlfriend who locked me in the house then she started acting crazy and starting to make it look like I was abusing her. Most terrifying experience of my life, even though I was military hand to hand combat trainer. I managed to get her neighbor to come around, I had to slip under her arm as she held the door open just when the neighbor left.
Thank you so much for your insight. Mine wasnt a romantic partner and as a result the effects were spread much wider in the community, but perhaps less severe. And I got away fairly clean but I had to leave people in the dust because nobody believes me. Your video is awesome.
Trust no one. Just do the right thing even when no one is watching. Follow common sense always!!! Period
I've got a friend, who's 14, she never feels sad, guilt, or empathy, even if it was someone else, her dad died, she was emotionless, her mum noticed it, and she never felt sad, and with the Jeffrey Dahmer case, she saw nothing wrong with him, and didn't feel bad, or disgusted, she also hurt her cat, and brother, and she's good at crying on command, so she never really feels it, she's fearless too.
Great video. I think it's worth recognising the work of Sandra L Brown, who's "Super traits" map very well to PHIL and COLE. Her victims of Cluster Bs were all female but she confirms that men have Super traits too, so this would make them very vulnerable to Cluster Bs. Her work was to academic standards and involved a large sample size. The super traits clustered into 2 main categories with the following sequence of correlation to vulnerability to cluster B abuse - 1. Conscientiousness 2. Agreeableness! Contained within these clusters are traits like elevated levels of empathy and over trusting. They overlap well well with of PHIL and COLE. It's also worth noting that being a child of a Cluster b also plays a role here, as these victims have also been desensitised to the abusive behaviour and are likely to accept/minimise the pain /abuse, seeing it all as being part of 'love' - which, as Lise knows well, - it isn't! Even if, like me, you had a Narc mom who tells you it is.
Perfect break down. I always wondered if referring to my ex as a psychopath was accurate. According to this video, I was one hundred percent accurate.
My sonâs mother is a narcissist. Iâm starting to think maybe more. I notice when she is in her rage, Iâll video her and her whole mood changes. All her body language when change so it wonât be caught on camera. Her sister passed away and I really didnât see any emotions. She acts like Bambi when cps or police are around. Life is wild.
She flat out told me she has no shame.
I feel like Iâm stuck because of my empathy.
Even though I feel like Iâve come to the end of my rope in regards to my marriage, I get back up and put one foot in front of the other again and try to make it work but if Iâm being honest it seems like this is a never ending cycle.
Itâs hard to want share about the damage a narcissist can inflict or the hurt of affairs as a man, because it seems like people view the wounds as invisible scars. As if men are some how not human and impervious to heartbreak.
Never had any worries of mental health until recently. I have never experienced a sadness to this degree and having a family makes it extremely difficult to walk away, even if it means I regain myself in the process.
I donât think my wife is a bad mother but at the same time, I donât know if it gets any better for us either.
Thank you for taking the time to offer advice and concern for those of us in or once upon a time in the crosshairs of a narcissist.
†this is so hard for u but u will get there one day Soon. Love.from Norway
I met and dated a female psychopath.
I see people in the comments asking, "Give examples" or "How was it that bad?"
Well, before I met my psychopath I was very clearly NOT gay. (I'm female too)
We met, and at first I thought she was really cool, and a very good friend. We clicked right away. (Red flag I didn't see)
Up to this point in time she had been pursuing me on and off. She would flirt, give me gifts, love letters, suggest "Maybe you just don't KNOW you aren't gay cause you never tried it before?"
I responded "No, I'm pretty sure I'm not."
Still this didn't deter her.
Then I met a guy. He was nice, smart, kind. I started to hang out with him more, which she complaigned to me she didn't like. "You never have time for meeee anymore. :( Aren't I your bff?"
I felt bad/guilty so I would try to hang out with her more.
I tried to balance both people but it was hard.
Then one day the guy I was seeing came to me upset saying I hadn't been honest with him. I was confused what he was even talking about. "I've been betrayed." he said, and then left.
I didn't know what happened but I went to my bff about it. She said she didn't know why he was upset. đ€·ââïž "I don't know"
So I cried on her shoulder about him leaving me and she comforted me for weeks. She was there for me whenever I needed, tissues in hand and holding my hand while I cried in sadness.
We then dated and well, I'm sure you know what happens. The mask came off and she was mean to only me. Everyone else only saw the saint.
Well, it wasn't until years after we broke up that I found out the reason the guy left me was because she talked badly about me to him behind my back.
She did it because she wanted to be with me and knew I wouldn't if he stayed.
Just think, I could be happily dating him rn (a normal guy) but instead I'm heartbroken over a scheming psychopath.
Have you heard of the Story of Renae Marsden? It sounds very similar to your story. Please take good care of yourself.
Typical
Owe...that's just awefulđ good luck in the future
Did you not ask him why he thought you had not been honest with him ? Why did he not explain his concerns and at least give you a chance to reply ? Why did he believe your female friend in the first place ?
Well, there are a few things I guess that I didn't make clear. Sorry.
1.) I wasn't actually dating the guy, yes, we were talking/getting to know each other. However we had just met. I didn't know him that long and I knew the psychopath a long while at this point. (Enough to be bffs)
He wasn't my bf, just a guy who I was getting to know.
2.) I hadn't known him long and he had also was somewhat friends with the psychopath too. (Not exactly but sort of)
We hung out in the same social circles so to speak.
3.) You forget how convincing/sneaky psychopaths can be. And I don't know when or how many times they talked or what was said. I wasn't there when they had such convos so I don't know what happened.
4.) I tried to ask him/explain when he came up to me upset but he didn't wanna listen. Sometimes people just don't wanna hear your side of things, and even if you tell them they don't believe you. You can't force others to change their opinion about you.
It's like work at a new job. You meet people and get along with some your coworkers and make friends and you are happy. You feel like you are fitting in.
But then your boss doesn't like you and suddenly there are whispers going on and you get weird looks every shift but you don't know why and nobody tells you why.
You try to think what it could be. "Was it something I said? Did I offend someone? Do something wrong? Do I smell?"
Then your boss comes up to you later and tells you you have been let go because of company lay offs OR your boss tells you they have to cut back your hours so now you only work 1 shift a week. (They do this so you quit instead)
Either way, you leave and then you don't know why it happened.
It's like that kind of. (Not really but I hope you can understand)
I've just re-watched your video ! It really has put into perspective my last relationship of six months in 2022. Thank you Lise !
What I'm about to describe might sound strange; this woman seemed to have multiple faces, meaning l saw her appearance or she appeared to be young and old, showing me all aspects of her life. And she would say this is me when I was a teenager, and now you're seeing me in my twenties, thirties and so on. Weird no ? Thank you once again Lise.
Definitely there was something special about her. For my own reason and a lot of what she said I left. Iâll keep praying she finds the peace and joy we all deserve. I know to the rest of the world this sounds weak but itâs really my hopes for her and in the meantime Iâll keep working on myself. Stay healthy and safe inside your bodyđđ€đŒ
It's precious what you stated about borderlines. I've had that clinical diagnosis, & I've questioned my own self if I'm psychopathic or narcissistic. I do feel genuine remorse & guilt for any of my impulsive outbursts or pain I've caused another. Then I overly apologize as you've mentioned. If another can just not identify me as such or if I just don't identify as such, & rethink me as loving, nurturing, emotionally stable, then that I become which I already am within. That is conciousness. Conciousness is the only reality. I am grateful borderline has been clinically proven to get better with age. Abandonment issues? What are those? Everyone I love always permanently stays in my life. #healingpower
I dated a psychopath 7 years ago. She joked at the beginning she was one. Of course, I laughed it off as a joke... but my gut felt off. Usually you lose weight after a relationship. I was losing weight during. Listen to your subconscious predator warning intuition. She noticed and observed things about me and my life that no one else did, she made sure that everything she was interested in was conveniently related to what I was without being an obvious emulation. Here's a little test for you if you are in similar circumstances... tell them a friend's partner has just died and see how they react, then see how they react when they think you aren't watching. It happened to my friend and when I told her in a sad and distraught manner... she smiled with glee when she thought I wasn't looking. They always change their facial expressions when they think you cant see them. Always look back or take a second glance and you might spot a mask slip at the most inappropriate time... After the abrupt discard (I knew it was going to happen but not in the way ti did) I found out more about her from the friends I had made through her... checked nearly all of the criteria but it's less overt than a male psychopath. Feeling haunted when you are dating them is the best description I can give... Anyway, it was a fling. A circus fling. We were young, and she hadn't honed her cluster B craft yet and I managed to quarantine her from important things in my life. I fear for the man she ends up with when she's a master of her deception.
This is crazy bc I know exactly what youâre talking about now that you mentioned it, seen this first hand!
Ya I saw it. But sises church doesent đą
This should be taught to all the youth.
Thank you for helping me see. Still recovering. One step at a time