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the CORRECT 92 English Football Club Tier List
the CORRECT 92 English Football Club Tier List
the CORRECT 92 English Football Club Tier List - Hry
Get Huddersfield up to big. If Burnley and Preston are in big then Huddersfield are. First team to win the English first division 3 times in a row, only 3 teams followed (Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool), 2nd longest unbeaten run in England, 1 FA Cup. Easily a big club and disrespectful to have us in the same tier as Blackpool, Plymouth and Leyton Orient.
I’m pretty sure Huddersfield don’t have the 2nd longest unbeaten run Forest did 40 games unbeaten in all comps which I’m pretty sure is second, correct me If I’m wrong but to my knowledge I’m sure it’s forest
@@joemanners413 Huddersfield had 43 unbeaten in 2011 and we still didn’t get promotion haha
The terriers should be in big or massive. history is amazing. support is amazing.
Plymouth are pretty big ngl
Tiny clubs 💛💙💛💙
As an arsenal fan it hurts to not see us top tier but 3rd is also where i would put us. European failure hinders the club so much, consistently been one of the best but rarely the best
Fax
@@theunitedcity 20 years in top 4 but 20 years without a first division title really drills this home
Northampton's only achievement is going from the 4th division to the 1st division in 5 seasons, then going back down to the 4th division in another 5 seasons. Ever since then we haven't been higher than tier 3 just bounced between tier 3 and 4 every few years. Best cup run was the 5th round back in the 70s when we played United and George best scored 6 and we lost 8-2
Finally a tier list video ! 🙌
As a Middlesbrough fan I agree and I'm happy with where we were placed. Solid club consistently in the top 2 leagues, and we have one of the best club owners in English football in Steve Gibson
Utfb
Still can't forget that 8-2 against City!
@@nostradamus986 im not even a boro fan and thats probably my second favourite game of all time
Hahah one time in Prem in past decade SAFC on top
As a Cardiff fan I would agree with average tbf, very up and down history for us, facup in '27, nearly won the old division in I think '24 and was up there until the 60's but then was near the foot of division 4 by the 80s/90s and now we're back in and around the prem/championship. Although tbf I'm just glad you put us above Swansea lol
I'm a boro fan and we were below our 3 main rivals lol
Great Video. One thing that I want to add is the comparison between Southampton and Huddersfield Town:
Huddersfield Town have won 3 League Titles, 1 F.A Cup, 1 Community Shield, become one of the only three clubs to won 3 League Titles in a row (others are Manchester United and Liverpool). They spent 32 Seasons in the Top Flight.
On the other hand, Southampton won 1 F.A Cup and spent 43 Seasons in the Top Flight.
In my opinion Huddersfield Town should be in Big categorie instead of Average because they're bigger than Southampton and you put them above Huddersfield Town.
Southampton have contributed so much to the Premier league as a franchise and football wise in whole though. They currently have the fastest goal and hat trick in the Prem, have one of the best youth academies in the league if not the world scouting the leagues all time top goal scorer and arguably you could take a handful of trophies away from one of the biggest clubs in England (Liverpool) if it wasn't for Southamptons scouting network
@@samcullum5527 they can put all that in their trophy cabinet.
@@MaxHTFC like Portsmouth any team that are now quite irrelevant claiming they're big because they won the league in consecutive years pre WW2 the argument is just pretty dead. Probably 99-100% of fans that were alive then are dead. Stop living in the past! You're not a big club
@@samcullum5527 I’d rather have major trophies from 100 years ago than scoring the fastest goals in the PL.
It’s all subjective and debatable on what defines club size, who has the best history, better fanbase based on population. But us and Portsmouth have 4 major trophies you have 1 and that’s a FACT.
@@MaxHTFC yeah not denying you have more trophies, congratulations if that's what you're after though definitely not a big club
Big up PNE. I've got a very distant relative that played CM for the club in the 1930's, before he went to War and before my family moved from Preston to America.
Leeds fan but I respect people who support lower clubs than big ones.
This is actually a class list ngl
no it’s not
@@johnd8421 it's a good list. There can be a few adjustments such as plymouth coventry and west ham should be a higher tier but on the whole it's pretty well done and showcases where clubs should be
Nice to see someone with credible knowledge of city’s history
Huddersfield- first team to win the 1st division 3 times in a row, might be being bias but id put us in big
nah big or average
What tf is a Huddersfuld???
@@casperparks23 a team
Nice vid concept
Why do people think Forest only won 2 back to back European Cups, Clough won everything bar the FA Cup which we lost in 91, we was at Wembley 7 times in 5 years under clough winning another back to back league cups which he did back in 79 80.
Unfortunately for Forest, that was overshadowed by Liverpool winning 4 in a row immediately afterwards
Some clubs like MUFC are becoming more brands than football clubs, we (United) focus way too much on merchandising and brand exposure than actually football with the Glazers in charge
Big monie
Swindon town got hammered for match fixing and embezzlement, hence why they were only in div 1 for 1 season
Sneaking Burnley in big like we wouldn't notice 👀
My club Burton I think should be in maybe the higher end of small, if not lower end of average. We had back to back promotions from league 2 to league1, then to the championship all under Nigel Clough. Spent 2 seasons there before relegation. Never won any cups or anything though
you only average 3k though and have only spent 2 years in the top 2 divisions in your entire history as a football club pretty much every other club in "small" has a larger gate and a better history therefore I'd be thankful you've escaped tinpot.
S tier away end though
Dude we almost out numbered your home fans the other week.
This list is pretty impressive i can’t lie
Wycombe have won the south tinpot trophy, they surely have to be in elite. They even have Akinfenwa
i would like to know how newport county are in tinpot as they have had some very good cup runs winning against teams like Leicester, midilsborough and drawn to spurs.
Stevenage, Hartlepool and Sutton fans rn:......
Don't know if this was a re-upload but I don't know where you got your 92 from.
As a Bristol City fan I'd argue we're a liye higher. FA cup runners up in 1909, Top Division runners up 1906, League Cup Semi-finals 1970-71 1988-89 2017-18, Papa Johns (English League) record holders of 3 times.
Papa johns trophy hahahahahaha
Huddersfield have won leauge 2 play offs, leauge 1 play offs, championship play offs, an FA cup and were the first team to win the leauge 3 times in a row
Thanks for putting Chelsea in a very good category
Love seein Tranmere in small and not tinpot
I’ll accept small as a Peterborough fan tbf but thanks to Sammie Szmodics we’re a Championship club 🙌🙌
As a Bradford fan, I’m honoured to be in the Same tier as a premier league club.
god knows how ahhahaha
@@DanielMasonBFC recently been in major cup final, played in a European competition and won the fa cup as well as being in prem
@@davidlowery5723 nowadays tho lad it’s not the same
@@davidlowery5723 fa cup 100 years ago
If you go by historically Millwall would be in massive because in the pre war years they were bigger than teams like Man U and Tottenham.
no hartlepool, this is why jeff stelling left soccer saturday
villa are bigger than everton, they have 2 first division titles over us, but then we have 2 more fa cups, 5 more league cups (which they havent won) and a european cup, like come on
for me, I would change only swindon up one, villa up one and bournemouth down one, other than that its perfect
You think Swindon is a bigger club than bournemouth 🤣
No way he put Coventry in the same as Fulham and all the other shambles of clubs
As an aston villa fan i believe this is a good list
I'm a Bolton fan thanks for the big club rating
Argyle will always be a level above exeter
QPR>Birmingham
QPR has got runner-up in prem and 2 championship wins, as well as 1 FA
Cup(RunUp) Birmingham only got 2 championships and 2 FA CUP Run-Up. And 1 prem-runner up=5 championships imo. I understand putting Birmingham above QPR, but they should at least be in the same tier(Big Tier)
Ipswich are unbeaten in europe at home, beat Inter Milan while we were in the first division (now the championship)
You forgot the club with the most ucl in premier league
Thank you chelsea fans thank you. We get the respect we deserve and we are above mancity. Thats a win for me
As a Norphamton Town fan I agree where you put us but I think we've won league title and a play off trophy
Morecambe are massive mate. Never lost at Wembley and never been relegated
18 Grimsby Town 11 3 28 63 85 19 Alfreton Town 11 4 26 59 89 20 Horsham 7 6 32 58 105
Coventry are a big club. Very disrespectful to put them in the exact same tier as the likes of grimsby, leyton orient and notts county. (No disrespect to them clubs)
Only won one trophy
I think it's more that those clubs should be lower but yes shouldn't be in same group
Every time I see the Bradford County logo I always think that if they switched kit providers to a Nike, Adidas, Puma, Kappa Etc. They would sell a ton more shirts, thus boosting the club profile and pocket books. I always though the had an old style Roma vibe with the burgundy and gold. Always wanted a shirt, but where the hell do you buy Errea, or whatever budget company they use.
The shirts we have now are much better than the ones we had under Nike.
Try the club shop.
There should be a tier below tinpot for MK only
Imagine putting City on the same level as Spurs and Everton
Not a bad list. I think my club is about right but some of these are well off. Some in average are clearly small and some in small are tinpot or very small would be a better phrase
Thank you, as an mk dons fans, i heavily agree.
Would move Everton and Villa to fucking massive, and then it would be perfect
Personally I think villa should be in fucking massive we’ve won 7 first div titles, 7 fa cups, 5 league cups, 1 champions league(european cup), 1 European super cup and 1 community shield which makes us one of the most successful clubs in England and we are one of the founders of the football league
AFC Wimbledon? How could you miss the real Wimbledon?
1988 FA Cup Winners?
Founder Members of the premier league!
And sticking two fingers up the Franchise!
MK Dons Killed It.
LOL puts Preston in bit so he can leverage them to put Burnley as big.
Thank you, the only person to put Ipswich above Norwich and doesn't think history started 20 years ago
Weird fact about Ipswich town: their home record in European competition stands at W25 D6 L0
we have a song about that
They were legitimately one of the best teams in Europe in the early 80s. Winning the Uefa cup was arguably as tough as the European cup back then as it had more teams (European cup was only league winners I think).
COV IS BIG CLUB We were literally in the Premier League
😂
Im sorry but how are huddersfield in average? May have a bias but we have:
the 3rd longest unbeaten run in english football (history)
First to win 3 in a row
Won the FA Cup
Both before we turned 20
Highest goalscorer in League 1 history
Runners up 2 seasons (by 1 and 5 points) after we won it, then came third after that i think (so it couldve been 6 in a row)
Yet only in average
Id argue we are bugger than Ipswich, Bolton, Derby and PNE atleast
Your fanbase is tiny. Nowhere near as big as Ipswich Bolton or derby
Swindon won the League cup and they get higher attendances than bormouth and he puts them the tier below
I know Swindon’s literally won more than almost all the teams in average but are still seen as “small”
If your putting Burnley in big the palace and Fulham have to be in there too and Plymouth and Grimsby can’t be in average with those other teams I see scunny as a bigger team then in general then them
btw ipswich didn’t win a cup winners cup, it was the uefa cup aka europa league. only ipswich and leeds outside of the top six have won it (ofc villa and forest won the european cup but i’m talking about europa league)
Uefa cup was harder to win than the european cup , more pedigree teams and extra round ..spurs also won it but leeds didn't
Sorry I’ve never heard of Everton, who are they? Apparently they’re bigger than Aston Villa. But that’s not possible.
3 league titles in a row BETTERED by no one and also an fa cup win, players like dennis law and frank worthington made their name with us alongside famous managers like herbert chapman and bill shankly who went on to revolutionise arsenal and liverpool. call it bias but we should be in big especially when clubs like southampton burnley and preston are being lumped above us.
Thank you for giving Luton a decent position on here
Yeah they deserve it - in top flight for a while, one season off a season in the Prem, on the up right now (might get top 6 ffs who knows), yeah mid average imo
@@pn2360 luton have never been in the prem
@@pn2360 you don't know ball lol
@@rkerry01 top flight doesn't just mean prem - football existed before 1992 icymi, and they were in the first division for 10 years in a row, won a league cup, beating arsenal in the final, finished 7th, they're not in the small tier defo
@@danny9008 top flight doesn't just mean prem - football existed before 1992 icymi, and were in the first division for 10 years in a row
And aren't you praising Liam?
Wolves has more trophies than Sunderland and forest and invented the concept of european football. We are massive
Wolves deserve more respect - you are massive.
Up the Villa and mind the gap though.
Bet you didn't see that coming.
RIP Stockport county, this was just after we go re promoted to the football league 😢
Never in my life have I been so hurt. Barrow in tinpot
Do the same but rank the away days youve done
Cheltenham in small and FGR in tinpot, you're a fucking hero Vizeh
think Blackpool could be higher. They're about as big as Preston, them 2 in the mid 1900s were incredible. Sir Stanley Matthews, everyone knows who he is. Bolton are big too, Wigan are high average for the Cup win alone, being voted into the football league isn't a great look though. Sorry if my EFL / older football knowledge is off, this is just from memory
Kidderminster harriers should be at the top
Can we all agree that when he uploads are day gets better! 💕
Our*
Bro how about you try and earn your career instead of getting a fake fanbase that will fade away
@@Hekka101calm down bro don’t take life to serious
@@technicallyinsane6894 bruh
@@technicallyinsane6894 sorry ghandi
Leyton orient are a team you should respect in 1987 orient had to beat Burnley to go up but Burnley needed to win to stay in the league its a common belief that orient threw the game due to the crowd and trouble that would erupt if orient were to win. Game finished 2 1 to Burnley and the rest is history
That "common belief" sounds like a massive cop out to me
Lmao that common belief is total cope from orient fans
How are we Lower than Sunderland Newcastle and Leeds?
We won 2 league titles 2 euro cups 1 winners cup 4 carabao cups
7 community shields and 8 FA cups
Which makes us the 6th most successful club in England
We should be in the high end of massive above Everton or in the lower end of "fucking massive" Below chelsea
Because ur a banter club and we have 6 league titles
@@user-vt2rl9sp3c 4 league titles
No one cares about championship
We won way more carabao fa europa leagues and other trophies
We won 24 major trophies
And newcastle won 13
We are referred to as s big 6 club
So there is no way newcastle sunderland ane leeds are bigger than us
Everton is also smaller than us
Newcastle are smaller than spurs
How can you go by titles then say you should be above Everton who have more than you?
@cinnamdont be silly onmycool1237
Sounds like you need a separate tier solely for Palace!
Like above average but not big 🤣
Villa should be higher.
I appreciate Vizeh for being honest about mk dons and not being like other people and calling the whole town tinpot
I disagree, they’re a club that don’t deserve an ounce of respect
@@JustWomblingFree To be fair over some period of time I found a new found respect for MK Dons, they have a very good youth system and have produced good talent
have you no shame
or dignity?
Stanley should be up to average, they do have history in the top flight
Not Macclesfield bro they were relegated from efl a couple years ago after like 1 or 2 seasons in it and then they went bust. Think they are getting brought back now though.
Brentford just beat Chelsea 4-1.
Like yesterday. It hurts. Props to Brentford though.
Colchester is a great town, got the history, got everything going for it, the club hmm not so much, maybe one day.. atleast were the best club in Essex
Wigan should be a bit higher as they won an FA Cup after beating City in the final
Huddersfield should be in big first team to win 3 top flights In a row and won cups very rich history I’d say bigger than Preston
Palace in the same category as Grimsby town wtf
In fairness you've never won anything but should be a little higher tbf, probably between Stoke and Watford.
When people do these tier lists, wouldn’t it be easier to do it by say grade levels (e.g. A+, A, A-, B+, B, B-, C+, C, C-, etc). Terms such as ‘massive’, ‘big’, ‘average’, ‘small’, etc, are totally ambiguous and vague.
I think this is mostly fair and very well informed by someone who clearly knows his football.
I would however take Liverpool out of Elite because how can you be elite with one league title in almost 40 years?
Additionally, the UCL titles they won were quite fortuitous (finishing 3rd in the group twice, beating Spurs in the final and a massive upset against Milan).
Chelsea is a weird one because, yes, they were a money project but its been twenty years and they have become a global brand. All things considered, my top four tiers would be:
Tier 1: Manchester United
Tier 2: Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea
Tier 3: Everton, Aston Villa, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday
Tier 4: Newcastle, Spurs, Sunderland, Manchester City
answer to the 40 year question, bad management, and bad owners. remember there was football before the prem, my issue personally is newport being in tinpot
Liverpool has the most trophies in england. That automatically puts them in the elite.
@@mattparis02 Not too many "elite" clubs have 1 title in 40 years (and even that is tainted because it was during the covid season). Look, I know Im a Toffee but I honestly dont consider LFC an elite club.
@@neilefc877 That title isn’t tainted. Liverpool won it before Covid even started
@@mattparis02 I know what youre saying but the rules were so dramatically changed that season. Who is to say that LFC would have won that title if the subs rule, social distancing among staff members, not to mention sickness among opposition players and empty stadiums had not come into effect.
I dont think it matters though cause regardless of whether we can count 2019 as a title victory, LFC will win the league in a few months. So youve got your hands on a premier league title regardless.
Started so well, but Plymouth and Grimsby in Average??! MK Dons in Tin Pot??! 😂😂😂
Plymouth could potentially be considered big but Grimsby is defo average. MK Dons is 100% tinpot. Stolen club.
I'm sorry but wolves are at least lower massive, won more than leeds, forest, sunderland and more.
criminal that swansea is below cardiff, my nans five a side has a bigger trophy cabinet than cardiff
Sheffield Wednesday should be in the Tin Pot category now.
Ha ha, do I smell a SUFC, Rotherham or Barnsley fan here. Bottom 3 for the majority of the season with the highest ticket prices in the championship, but still averaged 26,000, sorry mate, you're talking sh*t#. I will leave you to bask in your petty jealous ignorance 😂
I’m bussing that Preston are in big are above Blackpool
Nah can’t believe you put Sheffield Wednesdays in front the blades went up to the prem and won against some big clubs
Respect the list vizeh but oldham small? theyre founding memebers of the prem
I think Cardiff have a shout for big imo
Very accurate , can't fault
1 Liverpool
2 Manchester United
3 Chelsea
4 Arsenal
5 Man city
6 Totenham
7 Nothingam Forest
8 Aston Villa
9 Everton
10 Newcastle
only Liam would not get burnley’s honours correct. 2 first divisions and 1 fa cup. not the other way 🤦
PLYMOUTH ARE IN THE THUMBNAIL BABY
You can't put Oldham in small and Bournemouth, Swansea, Hull, Leyton Orient, Plymouth, Reading, Millwall in average. Also Huddersfield is big,they have 3 1st division titles. You need to research football history guy.
Everton should of got fucking massive! We have a lot of fans, a lot of division 1 wins, We have played the most top flight games, we have scored the most total goals, we have the record holder of most goals in a season (england) and most of footballs history everton was the best and on top!
My home city is Newcastle, you made the right choice with the team (could have been in elite)
You guys are looking good
@@SplinterAce we are doing great
Charlton have the best history for south London
Only team in South London to won and FA Cup and the fact he put Pompey in Big is criminal