you can buy tickets here to see Mamamoo in the USA www.ticketmaster.com/mamamoo-tickets/artist/2779181?global=true Moomoos are also trying to reach out to radio shows and American talk shows through twitter. Please help in reaching out reddit thread: t.co/Ly7xJe3kGX
No one asked but- Kpopify xolarsun is a quite popular mamamoo fan youtuber and his/her videos mostly have 1+ million views or near and most viewed is like 70m or more. Now if that channel can post something more about this, then this will be another way to promote the mycon. Not to mention that it has 300+ k subs. I hope i dont sound rude here🤗
I want to understand why this treatment, even though Mamamoo is the one that made the company famous in the first place. It is similar to the cube company. They are the worst companies.
It's crazy that MAMAMOO made that company (I won't say popular ,cuz it's not) known and still they treat them like shit. Like...come onnn, God without MMM they are nothing.
Their world tour has been making waves. I participated in the presale and within an hour the damn thing crashed. I tried getting tickets from 10am until the next day. So I don't know anyone else experience but those dang gone tickets took me 2 days to get
I have a feeling that the difference in MAMAMOO+ and the recent MAMAMOO OT4 comeback promotions was because MoonSun are very active in everything they do, and have a wider network of contacts they accumulated over the years, and these contacts got in touch with Solar and Moonbyul directly..
What an ungrateful company! I've noticed the girls doing all the promotion work themselves, posting on their personal Instagram and moomoos doing some leg work for them. They've worked really hard all these years being a cash cow, the least RBW can do is to promote them equally as they do the new groups. I'm seething mad at this situation.
This is so TRUEE.. I didn't know Mamamoo is performing in my country Indonesia when they have their Asian Tour. I missed these Queens concert and don't know when they will have concert in here again 🥲🥲
Tbh I am thinking about buying a ticket for the U. S-Tour and give it to a fan who hasn't the financials to buy. In hope that they will come to Germany. 😅
Same, if I actually find out about it! I only found out they had been in France after it happened. I also learned that Hwasa had been in London & I never knew despite living in England.
OneUS got better treatment than Mamamoo for their tour including 14 performances in NA = double than Mamamoo. OneUS didn't make EU tour. Mamamoo making an EU tour isn't gonna happen.
It's sad how the company treats them. Just like how SM treats EXO. Lucky for these 2 amazing groups that they have dedicated fans who promote them way better than the companies do. Cannot wait to see Mamamoo next month in Ft. Worth. Hopefully I can see EXO one day.😊😊😊😊
I really don’t understand it since I thought companies want to make money. Everyone knows that it’s a competitive world & good advertising is important. But I don’t speak Korean & maybe they are satisfied with how much business they are doing?
moos, please correct me if I’m wrong. but what if some moomoos that can get into contact with them (like bubble, etc) tell them that the promotion of their upcoming us tour is poorly done by the company? do you think telling them this is bad or no? sorry if I’m wrong but we can only do so much to promote them :( it hurts me to see them being treated like this. even their last comeback got almost zero promotion from their company :(
Yes go tell them, mamamoo+ is on bubble right? I think they kinda know the situation but letting them know from our perspective is not a bad idea though. But we need to tell them abt it in korean don't we?
I would like to join them at 2:22 RBW never fails to disappoint huh! I wish a better company takes over RBW or atleast Mamamoo's management when their contract ends. Imagine what Mamamoo could have been if they even had half of what other top gg companies are doing for them. Moomoos it's upto us we can't let down our girls. Mamamoo fighting Moomoo fighting
I don't get the mistreatment of this company, the fact that they are promoting a junior group who's just getting started to a veteran group who built the company from the nothing to what it is now is being sabotage and ignored like what the hell RBW!..🤬😡I'm so glad Moomoos are such strong and dedicated fandom who wouldn't give up for the sake of the girls hardwork and talent will not go to waste anytime soon, moos are smart and will always come up with ideas to promote the girls better than they do. In my person opinion RBW knew MMM will take over once they became big but the more they are gonna appeared on talk shows in the US or doing a concert tour there will be more open opportunities for them as well, and they are not ready for that to happen. yup I'm talking about RBdumb. Pray for the girl's American tour/ talk shows and radio shows to be a success since their company is so done and doesn't give a crap anymore. They deserve it.
Me as a SK moo I subscribed in Korean many times on official channel about 'THE Eng sub problem' and lazy upload a new contents. BUT nothing changes even solarsido her own channel is way better than RBW. and MMM works very hard this year. And recently RBW had M&A they getting bigger MMM is just old cash cow for them? My guess tho. Cuz this year they're contract are finishing.
No one asked but- Kpopify xolarsun is a quite popular mamamoo fan youtuber and his/her videos mostly have 1+ million views or near and most viewed is like 70m or more. Now if that channel can post something more about this, then this will be another way to promote the mycon. Not to mention that it has 300+ k subs. I hope i dont sound rude here🤗
In their Post, Kpopify xolarsun have already said that they are preparing a content for this... On our part we could also provide a drop to a ocean by sharing any related post or comments on popular reaction channels and any other related content. Lets hope to provide as much support as we can....
Maybe it's time for for Solar, Moonbyul and Hwasa not renewing their contract with RBW and sign with Wheein's agency instead so they can be officially together again.
Look into Wheein's agency... The founder is facing prison time, so I don't think it would be a smart idea for the rest of Mamamoo to join Wheein at the L1VE.
@@TheSamELopez Agree with you. People think, it Wheein new agency treat her well, the others would have the same and they did forget that Ailee left this agency(her fans were saing the agency didn't promoted her well). So it's doesn't mean if Wheein feels well there, the others would feel the same.
Yeah WheeIn might need to change companies again. Ravi is in trouble for illegal activities related to their military service requirements. If he goes to prison he can’t be running a music business. Hopefully they ladies will speak to some lawyers & maybe older people in the industry that they can trust for advice.
@@PinkRose0910 All this story with Ravi, was it worth for him to do all staff he did. Like, he is running 2 agencies, has talented artists, he is known and respected person in music industry, what was he thinking?
@@TheSamELopez Never knew about Ravi's problems. I guess MMM may have to renegotiate a better deal with RBW to include some controlling issues as well as better profit sharing issues as well.
I think the artists have to learn how to stick up for themselves & promote themselves. They can post on their individual social media accounts🤷♀️. Otherwise it’s a management issue. There should be someone whose job it is to organize & make promotions on social media for the artists. I mean I’m sure they are busy doing practice & rehearsals & traveling. Maybe they aren’t business minded or are too busy to realize they aren’t getting treated properly? I would think RBW would want to sell out the tickets. I don’t know how their contracts work & profits are divided.
Or maybe they might not have that much of a crowd to pull for a arena concert in USA, if you are trying to attract the casual listeners, they can buy the tickets few days before the gig
Idk but isnt one of the girls already gone or she will soon and another girls said she will quit when her contract runs out(ofc her contract needs to run out for both of the girls) and that will be next yr i thik i might be wrong idk
Well, think about it, RBW does mistreating them, they almost always did zero proper promotion whenever the girl having comeback or concert, and we barely get any english subtitle from their show/content back then, they could get better recognition and income if they have a proper promotion. Despite all of that, mmm still doing great with moomoo during all of the comeback and concert even tho there's lack of promotion. In the other side, RBW is a company that is not so strict for their idol, they let them express and being themself, not forcing them to fit in the korean beauty and make them stand on their own preferences, making the free-souls of eagle mamamoo. Do you guys think there's any better company than RBW? Cuz I think it would be a difficult time for mmm to choose new company if they all ever want to leave RBW
They want to not be called mamamoo company guess what they will be forever known as mamamoo company 🤡and they should not forget who made that company to where they are now
There r news that mamamoo maynot go to Europe n latin for tour bt am wondering why??? Doesn't rbw have enough resources to go to Europe for tour? Don't they want to make money from the Europe tour, it will be such a shame if mmm fails to go to Europe for tour bse they will miss Europe exposure n money from Europe tour
nobody knows why. OneUS have done 3 tours in NA including SA and yet no EU. i highly doubt Mamamoo will do an EU tour. in NA Mamamoo got half the live performances than OneUS tour in 2022. they had 14 performances while Mamamoo will have 7.
When is Solar, MoonByul and Hwasa's contract with RBW up? I don't get why the rest of MMM renenewed when Wheein didn't, couldn't they have all just gone to somewhere better?
Hwasa's contract is due in June/July 2023 Solar and Moonbyul contracts due in June/July 2024 Wheein's exclusive contract with RBW for MMM is due in Dec 2023.
@@shany0608 oh okay, that makes sense. Thank you. Ahh I love mamamoo together so much, so I wish they would never disband but they deserve all the good things and much better treatment.
I would like people to say - what agency should mamamoo, as a group to go, like really. Please name some agencies, which will take them 4, treat them well, with respect they deserve as a group, and as solo(think, they all would want to continue their solo work), give them freedom in work, give them concerts, world tours. Do you guys know this kind of agency. I don't.
I have been suspecting RBW since Wheein didn’t renew contract with them. They must have been mistreating MMM for a long time : Moonbyul was forced to be a rapper, MMM was forced to eat less and be thin(Boss in the Mirror 2020 ep.81 MMM said they must found dangerous drugs before eating as much as they wanted), and somehow I believe RBW were a part of causes why Wheein had anxiety.
Why not to seperate themselves from such ungrateful company and create their own like what SB19 did? Well theirs nothing conflict happening between SB19 and the company who build them but they did seperate themselves and created their own company . . I think if the company doesn't treating Mamamoo well and they working things on their own then better to sepearte at least they will solely gain the fruit of their hardwork than feeding their ungrateful company
Hold on hold on hold on. Wtfudge can you people get the real facts please. The company is going public so they had to create an IPO and sadly it planned on supporting more of their other groups. Now people know they'll be mad if PK or OU was not promoted if MMM was all the focus. But when going public that means investors. So you (RBW) have to prove/ show that out of all their endeavors they can be profitable. So it was more of a plan. MMM has been the focal point of the company for 7 years. That's a long time. And all the companies other groups has been put on the back burner as well as taken a back seat. They've already established themselves. I really don't see how they are all of a sudden being "mistreated" now. This plan was put into play before their contract expired. So if you think these women didn't know what was up you are sadly mistaken. RBW is trying to expand to be able to provide more resources. Even though MMM help establish the company, they are still same with limited resources. Their funds isn't like YG, JYP, SM or Hype. Take that into consideration please. I support my girls and I can't wait until their concerts. RBW has had these women back and their #1 for 7 years. I'm not saying rbw is perfect, but to jump to "best company" to "mistreatment" is crazy. It makes the fans seem wishy washy or can flip at a drop of a hat. Fans need to have a little more faith and be more open minded.
1. World tour but literally no promotion. 2. No subtitles 3. Rejecting great offers 4. Also, i heard that they might not tour latin america, where most of their fanbase is. There are a LOT of great moos there but their company is not interested. 5. Less group promotion still doesnt make sense. And i hope you know what happened with hwasa. That incident of fans bringing gifts (dont remember the exact thing) but her having no idea..
That's exactly the point. Because of the IPO and wanting to prove that MMM is not the main source of income, they did little to no promotion for MMM AT ALL since end 2018/early 2019. RBW didn't even put MMM's sales/revenue in their charts since then (2018/2019). However, even with little to no promotion, MMM is still one of their major source of income. Now just imagine if they were willing to spend 20% of what they spent in funds and manpower for their younger groups, RBW could potentially earn so much more which, in turn, double or triple the funds they could use for their younger groups. Nowadays, it seemed to us that RBW is just trying to squeeze the (tiny and dwindling) fandom of more money by slapping MAMAMOO's name and their images on random items (that the MMM members had no idea about). That includes umbrellas, wireless chargers, and even GOLD BARS. These aren't even sold as official MMM merch, just posted on their RBW accounts with MMM's name printed on those items and $$ just started coming in... (p.s. I mentioned the fandom as tiny and dwindling, because most people/older fans don't even know MMM is still active, because RBW is not promoting them at all, and aren't even willing to post pictures of their event periodically on their free to use SNS that have wide followings. e.g. IG, Facebook, and TikTok.)
IDK your sources and IDK if you are stating facts or opinions. But I will say that I hope you are wrong. Because if you're right, RBW's business side is horribly mismanaged. That is not how to attract investors to an IPO. Yes a company wants to show they have a model for future growth, but not to the detriment of their current income streams. If you can't protect and nurture your established products while introducing and promoting new ones, you may not get to that future. Nobody I know would invest in a company that doesn't understand this basic concept. I'm not hating on RBW. We owe them a huge debt of gratitude for recognizing MMM's talent, training them, producing the music, and then sharing these four amazing artists with the world. But their lack of promotion from the earliest days cannot be denied. To my knowledge MMM has always been left to mostly self promote. And they have done amazingly well at it. But there's only so much they can do themselves. CZcams reactors have done more to introduce Mamamoo to new audiences than RBW ever has. But to this day some older MVs and even new releases are either not sub'd in english or the sub'd versions are difficult to find. Leaving many reactors asking commenters what the song is about. I'm not saying that eng subs are the sole answer. But it is an important key to gaining more iMoos in the west, IMO. MAMAMOO should have owned the Americas by year 6, not just then preparing for a debut at Coachella. I'm sorry, blaming the pandemic for Mamamoo's lack of presence in the US is crap. I Love these ladies. I know they will eventually disband in some way. Maybe reunite in other forms. But I can't help but feel like RBW got complacent with MMM. And only gave them the bare minimum of promotion even after they could afford much more. MMM definitely earned more.
That's weird because why does the company have to mistreat one group just to prove that they "don't need" them for income instead they should be trying to increase their OTHER groups sales to atleast half of or more than what mamamoo can make instead of dragging mamamoo sales down to theirs to prove a point.
I saw them in Atlanta and I cannot understand why RBW doesn’t treat them better they are amazing live like they eat CDs for breakfast lunch and dinner lol.. very sweet women too smh I wonder when mamamoo as a group contract ends with rbw. They need a company that will appreciate them and promote them as they deserve. I could see if they weren’t talented but all 4 of them are gifted/talented asf solo and as a group. Hwasa also has been getting harassed and bullied by the media and anti netizens since her debut and they don’t even have her back. RBW is sickening and ungrateful asf imo, if it weren’t for mamamoo they couldn’t even keep the lights on 😂
you can buy tickets here to see Mamamoo in the USA
www.ticketmaster.com/mamamoo-tickets/artist/2779181?global=true
Moomoos are also trying to reach out to radio shows and American talk shows through twitter. Please help in reaching out
reddit thread:
t.co/Ly7xJe3kGX
I can't thank enough for the amount of energy and dedication you're putting in for Mamamoo ❤ I personally am so happy to have you as a fellow Moo 💕
No one asked but-
Kpopify xolarsun is a quite popular mamamoo fan youtuber and his/her videos mostly have 1+ million views or near and most viewed is like 70m or more.
Now if that channel can post something more about this, then this will be another way to promote the mycon.
Not to mention that it has 300+ k subs.
I hope i dont sound rude here🤗
I want to understand why this treatment, even though Mamamoo is the one that made the company famous in the first place. It is similar to the cube company. They are the worst companies.
I want to understand too cause isn’t it a waste of money for them? (I mean for the companies) if their groups are popular is better for them no?
Indeed
@@ownhero3466 at this point I just think RBW intentionally trying to drag them down
I would like to say " thanks" to every moomoo who is doing his best to promote the tour ❤
It's crazy that MAMAMOO made that company (I won't say popular ,cuz it's not) known and still they treat them like shit. Like...come onnn, God without MMM they are nothing.
It may have a reason, that the girls from Purple Kiss don't say they are from RBW, but they are from Mamamoos company... Just m
thank you fellow moomoo ❤️🔥 doing more for our girls than rbw ever will!
Their world tour has been making waves. I participated in the presale and within an hour the damn thing crashed. I tried getting tickets from 10am until the next day. So I don't know anyone else experience but those dang gone tickets took me 2 days to get
I have a feeling that the difference in MAMAMOO+ and the recent MAMAMOO OT4 comeback promotions was because MoonSun are very active in everything they do, and have a wider network of contacts they accumulated over the years, and these contacts got in touch with Solar and Moonbyul directly..
What an ungrateful company! I've noticed the girls doing all the promotion work themselves, posting on their personal Instagram and moomoos doing some leg work for them. They've worked really hard all these years being a cash cow, the least RBW can do is to promote them equally as they do the new groups. I'm seething mad at this situation.
I'm still looking for the moobong since I'm going to the Nashville concert 😢
Thank you SO MUCH for talking about this!!
I actually wish they'll perform
in US shows, Live with Jimmy
Kimmel, etc. IT'S just a dream.
That will be awesome!!!
This is so TRUEE.. I didn't know Mamamoo is performing in my country Indonesia when they have their Asian Tour. I missed these Queens concert and don't know when they will have concert in here again 🥲🥲
same here. didn't know until like 2 weeks after their concert
OMG!! If they make a European tour I am 100% going!!!
Tbh I am thinking about buying a ticket for the U. S-Tour and give it to a fan who hasn't the financials to buy. In hope that they will come to Germany. 😅
Same, if I actually find out about it! I only found out they had been in France after it happened. I also learned that Hwasa had been in London & I never knew despite living in England.
Me too!!!
OneUS got better treatment than Mamamoo for their tour including 14 performances in NA = double than Mamamoo. OneUS didn't make EU tour. Mamamoo making an EU tour isn't gonna happen.
I have my tickets!!! See you in Atlanta!!! Thanks to all the MooMoos for doing their part for our girls!!!
I got concert tickets for Ft. Worth. Am excited to finally see The 4 Queens.
See you there!!! My friends and I are going to that one as well!!!
You won't regret it. ❤ Enjoy their performance
I'll be there too. Can't wait
Me too !!! ❤❤❤
It's sad how the company treats them. Just like how SM treats EXO. Lucky for these 2 amazing groups that they have dedicated fans who promote them way better than the companies do.
Cannot wait to see Mamamoo next month in Ft. Worth. Hopefully I can see EXO one day.😊😊😊😊
I really don’t understand it since I thought companies want to make money. Everyone knows that it’s a competitive world & good advertising is important. But I don’t speak Korean & maybe they are satisfied with how much business they are doing?
moos, please correct me if I’m wrong. but what if some moomoos that can get into contact with them (like bubble, etc) tell them that the promotion of their upcoming us tour is poorly done by the company? do you think telling them this is bad or no? sorry if I’m wrong but we can only do so much to promote them :( it hurts me to see them being treated like this. even their last comeback got almost zero promotion from their company :(
Yes you can if you have bubble, at this point the only ones that can make rbw to POST abt tour can only be moonsun
Yes go tell them, mamamoo+ is on bubble right? I think they kinda know the situation but letting them know from our perspective is not a bad idea though. But we need to tell them abt it in korean don't we?
I also think about this. If anyone have bubble tell them about this. Mamamoo deserve more❤❤
I would like to join them at 2:22
RBW never fails to disappoint huh! I wish a better company takes over RBW or atleast Mamamoo's management when their contract ends. Imagine what Mamamoo could have been if they even had half of what other top gg companies are doing for them.
Moomoos it's upto us we can't let down our girls.
Mamamoo fighting Moomoo fighting
RBW owes MAMAMOO.
MAMAMOO owns RBW.
Mamamoo no tendrá una empresa que los apoye pero si que tiene un fandom que las apoya y promociona, bravo Moomos de Estados Unidos
Mamamoo needs to come to Cardiff so I can see them omg
I don't get the mistreatment of this company, the fact that they are promoting a junior group who's just getting started to a veteran group who built the company from the nothing to what it is now is being sabotage and ignored like what the hell RBW!..🤬😡I'm so glad Moomoos are such strong and dedicated fandom who wouldn't give up for the sake of the girls hardwork and talent will not go to waste anytime soon, moos are smart and will always come up with ideas to promote the girls better than they do. In my person opinion RBW knew MMM will take over once they became big but the more they are gonna appeared on talk shows in the US or doing a concert tour there will be more open opportunities for them as well, and they are not ready for that to happen. yup I'm talking about RBdumb. Pray for the girl's American tour/ talk shows and radio shows to be a success since their company is so done and doesn't give a crap anymore. They deserve it.
Their company is forgetting that Mamamoo built them up. Smh It’s so unfair how they treat Mamamoo
Me as a SK moo
I subscribed in Korean many times on official channel
about 'THE Eng sub problem' and lazy upload a new contents.
BUT nothing changes even solarsido her own channel is
way better than RBW.
and MMM works very hard this year.
And recently RBW had M&A they getting bigger
MMM is just old cash cow for them?
My guess tho.
Cuz this year they're contract are finishing.
Moomoos fighting!
I really wish they did not renew, but we have to respect their decision. But RBW just treats them like sheeeeeeet, the group that built RBW!!!
Say it loud Moomoo
It's honestly not even negligence anymore it's intentional sabotage atp
RBW treats them worse than a company would do to a nugu group.
Thank you for doing this!!! They deserve so much better!!!!❤
No one asked but-
Kpopify xolarsun is a quite popular mamamoo fan youtuber and his/her videos mostly have 1+ million views or near and most viewed is like 70m or more.
Now if that channel can post something more about this, then this will be another way to promote the mycon.
Not to mention that it has 300+ k subs.
I hope i dont sound rude here🤗
please get in contact with her
Please comment and request her to mention abt the tour ❤
In their Post, Kpopify xolarsun have already said that they are preparing a content for this...
On our part we could also provide a drop to a ocean by sharing any related post or comments on popular reaction channels and any other related content.
Lets hope to provide as much support as we can....
Maybe it's time for for Solar, Moonbyul and Hwasa not renewing their contract with RBW and sign with Wheein's agency instead so they can be officially together again.
Look into Wheein's agency... The founder is facing prison time, so I don't think it would be a smart idea for the rest of Mamamoo to join Wheein at the L1VE.
@@TheSamELopez Agree with you. People think, it Wheein new agency treat her well, the others would have the same and they did forget that Ailee left this agency(her fans were saing the agency didn't promoted her well). So it's doesn't mean if Wheein feels well there, the others would feel the same.
Yeah WheeIn might need to change companies again. Ravi is in trouble for illegal activities related to their military service requirements. If he goes to prison he can’t be running a music business. Hopefully they ladies will speak to some lawyers & maybe older people in the industry that they can trust for advice.
@@PinkRose0910 All this story with Ravi, was it worth for him to do all staff he did. Like, he is running 2 agencies, has talented artists, he is known and respected person in music industry, what was he thinking?
@@TheSamELopez Never knew about Ravi's problems. I guess MMM may have to renegotiate a better deal with RBW to include some controlling issues as well as better profit sharing issues as well.
And maybe it is the reason why jung wheein leave the company..but whatever its happen i hope they always together ❤❤❤❤
I did not know about this tour until about a few days from actually going. GLAD I went tho because i love mamamoo.
Please, I need to say this, Mamamoo needs a company which both treats and markets them well.
Thank 🥲
thank you for making this video
Well its so sad 😭they deserve better
I think the artists have to learn how to stick up for themselves & promote themselves. They can post on their individual social media accounts🤷♀️. Otherwise it’s a management issue. There should be someone whose job it is to organize & make promotions on social media for the artists. I mean I’m sure they are busy doing practice & rehearsals & traveling. Maybe they aren’t business minded or are too busy to realize they aren’t getting treated properly? I would think RBW would want to sell out the tickets. I don’t know how their contracts work & profits are divided.
ive seen ads for the tour on youtube but just within the last few days
Are they coming to UK at all?
I want to see them so much 😭💖
Or maybe they might not have that much of a crowd to pull for a arena concert in USA, if you are trying to attract the casual listeners, they can buy the tickets few days before the gig
i didnt even know about the tour
Idk but isnt one of the girls already gone or she will soon and another girls said she will quit when her contract runs out(ofc her contract needs to run out for both of the girls) and that will be next yr i thik i might be wrong idk
Dejavu cause many Indonesian fans know it last minute because lack of promotions and R*W didn't learn :(
It's my understanding that the presale of tickets has sold out.
Well, think about it, RBW does mistreating them, they almost always did zero proper promotion whenever the girl having comeback or concert, and we barely get any english subtitle from their show/content back then, they could get better recognition and income if they have a proper promotion.
Despite all of that, mmm still doing great with moomoo during all of the comeback and concert even tho there's lack of promotion.
In the other side, RBW is a company that is not so strict for their idol, they let them express and being themself, not forcing them to fit in the korean beauty and make them stand on their own preferences, making the free-souls of eagle mamamoo. Do you guys think there's any better company than RBW? Cuz I think it would be a difficult time for mmm to choose new company if they all ever want to leave RBW
If they go to another company though, are they able to keep the group name Mamamoo?
They want to not be called mamamoo company guess what they will be forever known as mamamoo company 🤡and they should not forget who made that company to where they are now
I love Hwasa
There r news that mamamoo maynot go to Europe n latin for tour bt am wondering why??? Doesn't rbw have enough resources to go to Europe for tour? Don't they want to make money from the Europe tour, it will be such a shame if mmm fails to go to Europe for tour bse they will miss Europe exposure n money from Europe tour
nobody knows why. OneUS have done 3 tours in NA including SA and yet no EU. i highly doubt Mamamoo will do an EU tour. in NA Mamamoo got half the live performances than OneUS tour in 2022. they had 14 performances while Mamamoo will have 7.
Cómo odio a esa empresa 😢
When is Solar, MoonByul and Hwasa's contract with RBW up? I don't get why the rest of MMM renenewed when Wheein didn't, couldn't they have all just gone to somewhere better?
Hwasa's contract is due in June/July 2023
Solar and Moonbyul contracts due in June/July 2024
Wheein's exclusive contract with RBW for MMM is due in Dec 2023.
Bc if the remaining three didnt renewed, they wouldn’t have been able to keep up the group as four, while using the group name mamamoo as well
@@hq3727 Thank you 😊. Hwasa's the closest, I wonder if she's gonna renew.
@@shany0608 oh okay, that makes sense. Thank you. Ahh I love mamamoo together so much, so I wish they would never disband but they deserve all the good things and much better treatment.
I would like people to say - what agency should mamamoo, as a group to go, like really. Please name some agencies, which will take them 4, treat them well, with respect they deserve as a group, and as solo(think, they all would want to continue their solo work), give them freedom in work, give them concerts, world tours. Do you guys know this kind of agency. I don't.
I have been suspecting RBW since Wheein didn’t renew contract with them. They must have been mistreating MMM for a long time : Moonbyul was forced to be a rapper, MMM was forced to eat less and be thin(Boss in the Mirror 2020 ep.81 MMM said they must found dangerous drugs before eating as much as they wanted), and somehow I believe RBW were a part of causes why Wheein had anxiety.
Poor them, i think they just have to move to another company.
Why not to seperate themselves from such ungrateful company and create their own like what SB19 did? Well theirs nothing conflict happening between SB19 and the company who build them but they did seperate themselves and created their own company . . I think if the company doesn't treating Mamamoo well and they working things on their own then better to sepearte at least they will solely gain the fruit of their hardwork than feeding their ungrateful company
seems hwasa not going to japan only mamamoo+ her contract up a soloist in june..
RBW is a bad company
i cant wait for the day that mamamoo leaves that company and goes to another company they know will treat them better.
Hold on hold on hold on. Wtfudge can you people get the real facts please. The company is going public so they had to create an IPO and sadly it planned on supporting more of their other groups. Now people know they'll be mad if PK or OU was not promoted if MMM was all the focus. But when going public that means investors. So you (RBW) have to prove/ show that out of all their endeavors they can be profitable. So it was more of a plan. MMM has been the focal point of the company for 7 years. That's a long time. And all the companies other groups has been put on the back burner as well as taken a back seat. They've already established themselves. I really don't see how they are all of a sudden being "mistreated" now. This plan was put into play before their contract expired. So if you think these women didn't know what was up you are sadly mistaken. RBW is trying to expand to be able to provide more resources. Even though MMM help establish the company, they are still same with limited resources. Their funds isn't like YG, JYP, SM or Hype. Take that into consideration please. I support my girls and I can't wait until their concerts. RBW has had these women back and their #1 for 7 years. I'm not saying rbw is perfect, but to jump to "best company" to "mistreatment" is crazy. It makes the fans seem wishy washy or can flip at a drop of a hat. Fans need to have a little more faith and be more open minded.
Yup u r right but then why a sudden world tour with little to no promotion?
1. World tour but literally no promotion.
2. No subtitles
3. Rejecting great offers
4. Also, i heard that they might not tour latin america, where most of their fanbase is. There are a LOT of great moos there but their company is not interested.
5. Less group promotion still doesnt make sense.
And i hope you know what happened with hwasa. That incident of fans bringing gifts (dont remember the exact thing) but her having no idea..
That's exactly the point. Because of the IPO and wanting to prove that MMM is not the main source of income, they did little to no promotion for MMM AT ALL since end 2018/early 2019. RBW didn't even put MMM's sales/revenue in their charts since then (2018/2019).
However, even with little to no promotion, MMM is still one of their major source of income. Now just imagine if they were willing to spend 20% of what they spent in funds and manpower for their younger groups, RBW could potentially earn so much more which, in turn, double or triple the funds they could use for their younger groups.
Nowadays, it seemed to us that RBW is just trying to squeeze the (tiny and dwindling) fandom of more money by slapping MAMAMOO's name and their images on random items (that the MMM members had no idea about). That includes umbrellas, wireless chargers, and even GOLD BARS. These aren't even sold as official MMM merch, just posted on their RBW accounts with MMM's name printed on those items and $$ just started coming in...
(p.s. I mentioned the fandom as tiny and dwindling, because most people/older fans don't even know MMM is still active, because RBW is not promoting them at all, and aren't even willing to post pictures of their event periodically on their free to use SNS that have wide followings. e.g. IG, Facebook, and TikTok.)
IDK your sources and IDK if you are stating facts or opinions. But I will say that I hope you are wrong. Because if you're right, RBW's business side is horribly mismanaged. That is not how to attract investors to an IPO. Yes a company wants to show they have a model for future growth, but not to the detriment of their current income streams. If you can't protect and nurture your established products while introducing and promoting new ones, you may not get to that future. Nobody I know would invest in a company that doesn't understand this basic concept. I'm not hating on RBW. We owe them a huge debt of gratitude for recognizing MMM's talent, training them, producing the music, and then sharing these four amazing artists with the world. But their lack of promotion from the earliest days cannot be denied. To my knowledge MMM has always been left to mostly self promote. And they have done amazingly well at it. But there's only so much they can do themselves. CZcams reactors have done more to introduce Mamamoo to new audiences than RBW ever has. But to this day some older MVs and even new releases are either not sub'd in english or the sub'd versions are difficult to find. Leaving many reactors asking commenters what the song is about. I'm not saying that eng subs are the sole answer. But it is an important key to gaining more iMoos in the west, IMO. MAMAMOO should have owned the Americas by year 6, not just then preparing for a debut at Coachella. I'm sorry, blaming the pandemic for Mamamoo's lack of presence in the US is crap. I Love these ladies. I know they will eventually disband in some way. Maybe reunite in other forms. But I can't help but feel like RBW got complacent with MMM. And only gave them the bare minimum of promotion even after they could afford much more. MMM definitely earned more.
That's weird because why does the company have to mistreat one group just to prove that they "don't need" them for income instead they should be trying to increase their OTHER groups sales to atleast half of or more than what mamamoo can make instead of dragging mamamoo sales down to theirs to prove a point.
I saw them in Atlanta and I cannot understand why RBW doesn’t treat them better they are amazing live like they eat CDs for breakfast lunch and dinner lol.. very sweet women too smh
I wonder when mamamoo as a group contract ends with rbw. They need a company that will appreciate them and promote them as they deserve. I could see if they weren’t talented but all 4 of them are gifted/talented asf solo and as a group. Hwasa also has been getting harassed and bullied by the media and anti netizens since her debut and they don’t even have her back. RBW is sickening and ungrateful asf imo, if it weren’t for mamamoo they couldn’t even keep the lights on 😂