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Komentáře • 301

  • @WickGaming
    @WickGaming  Před 2 lety +83

    I hope I presented facts in an unbiased way. Still, it is my opinion and everyone is free to disagree (in fact, I really welcome critiques, I learn a lot from them).
    I know you won't need all the commanders, but it's the way things have been done that, one more time, is very disappointing. I can't help but speak up for the things I believe in.
    NOTE: *MUSEUM BUFFS ARE PERMANENT ONCE UNLOCKED.* AT LEAST THAT.

    • @Lambeau_RoK
      @Lambeau_RoK Před 2 lety

      You expected different? :)

    • @WickGaming
      @WickGaming  Před 2 lety +4

      @@Lambeau_RoK I didn't expect them to go this far.

    • @parbatrai8087
      @parbatrai8087 Před 2 lety

      Nice explanation wick keep up the good work bro👍👍👍

    • @zapzaeon5078
      @zapzaeon5078 Před 2 lety

      More like gear 2.0 , the f2p grind never ends

    • @texascpa
      @texascpa Před 2 lety +10

      Wick, you and other content streamers have stated that you do not expect most of these buffs to make these commanders meta. YSG, Aethel, maybe Frederkick, notwithstanding (and one (YSG) is already meta and another (Aethel) has her purpose). So, why should we care if whales purchase these upgrades? Are they actually going to use them in SOC? Most likely not. If that's the case, how is the gap increased? I still think this is a good way for f2p and low-spenders to buff up a few of their commanders. We certainly could not expect f2p to be able to buff all their old commanders, otherwise Lilith would have just buffed them without this museum strategy.

  • @HugoBeltramini69
    @HugoBeltramini69 Před 2 lety +71

    I am playing ROK since the COVID-19 PANDEMIC quarentines start (almost 2 years now) and i must say, Lilith always improves their ways to disappoint us!

  • @toniv7314
    @toniv7314 Před 2 lety +97

    Whoever expected anything different from lilith probably believes in unicorns too. This was crystal(tech) clear.

  • @Thought_it_up
    @Thought_it_up Před 2 lety +21

    Lilith ALWAYS falls short of meeting the communities expectations. Can’t believe the biggest f2p update ever requires bundle buying. Ugh

    • @Qoo1664
      @Qoo1664 Před 2 lety

      💸💸💸💸💸

  • @lordkresnik2873
    @lordkresnik2873 Před 2 lety +15

    Alot of people are missing the point F2P and new players are the ones who need this yet it will take them longer than it would take P2W to expertise a new commander. How can the gap be closed when they can only build 1cm of bridge a day.

  • @yvonnecharly8143
    @yvonnecharly8143 Před 2 lety +23

    Thank you for getting this information for us and explaining in easy way. Not your fault that I am really disappointed about that this new stuff. But tbh who really thought that Legou/Lillith would implement something without paying for it. They are looking a way to grab a last time money from player before the game die.

    • @puddlecakes
      @puddlecakes Před 2 lety

      I mean. It’s a free game. They make money based on micro transactions.

  • @zan4336
    @zan4336 Před 2 lety +80

    If they're trying to kill their own game they're on the right track.

    • @gagandeepsingh5542
      @gagandeepsingh5542 Před 2 lety +9

      They should change the name from kvk to p2w

    • @Giraves
      @Giraves Před 2 lety +8

      They’ve not been on the right track for 2 years. If not for Covid pandemic this game would never have taken off

    • @muCephei_
      @muCephei_ Před 2 lety +2

      Sometimes this is true to principle. If greed becomes insatiable, you lead yourself to ruination.
      If Lilith is looking for more ways to make players spend money, the only person to benefit is Baba

  • @f-86zoomer37
    @f-86zoomer37 Před 2 lety +42

    As I guessed. Lilith manages to screw us all over once again. Not surprised at this point

    • @Qoo1664
      @Qoo1664 Před 2 lety

      💸💸💸💸 And 💸💸💸💸

  • @MTBskogland
    @MTBskogland Před 2 lety +19

    Ya I've spent a lot in game - but not 1 cent in the past 4 months. Once you've got 5 good pairs, it's just greed and obsession causing you to buy more, more, more. Frankly people like chisgule who trivialize spending are so unaware of their own issue's it's painful to witness.
    His proclaimatons of how important a bundle/commander is to 'invest' in your account only for it to become irreverent or easy to aquire, just make me sigh. In reality his advice is just another sales pitch under the pathetic halfhearted guise of ensuring 'financially responsibly', whether you realize or not is a choice.
    The sad/funny part, he doesn't even get commission. 😮

    • @LiteCoconut
      @LiteCoconut Před 2 lety

      maybe he gets sponsored

    • @mentalist9167
      @mentalist9167 Před 2 lety +2

      If u watch some of his videos, i couldn't figure out how he was getting so many gold heads a few days after maxing two full commanders .

    • @mrcalintz1
      @mrcalintz1 Před 2 lety

      It is on a purpose.

    • @noobatredstone3001
      @noobatredstone3001 Před 2 lety

      Lol Chisgule is always mentioning that you should prioritize other things. And I don’t think spending money in a game for your job (he’s sponsored) is an issue..

    • @reinyeradoriuq2733
      @reinyeradoriuq2733 Před 2 lety

      People who spend money in the game are likely not kids and should have learnt by then that they are accountable for their own actions. I don't see why chisgule is to recieve abit of a blame here. Him doing a reminder to prioritise other stuff is a bonus. Would you rather he dont? If so, you will still blabber

  • @mida05g
    @mida05g Před 2 lety +19

    Now Lilith just needs to close migration to kvk2-3 kingdoms and the Desaster is completed

    • @jackrisonjoseph
      @jackrisonjoseph Před 2 lety +1

      Lilith can't do that, I believe by now the developer team already noticed the fact that most of its newer kingdoms filled with old players instead full of young fresh and innocent players. Lilith won't get much money if they closed migration back to kvk season 2 and 3.

  • @ivoxxl2825
    @ivoxxl2825 Před 2 lety +27

    Ok it was their last chance
    Byebye rok

  • @gecgoodpasi1654
    @gecgoodpasi1654 Před 2 lety +14

    At this point RoK needs a option to opt out of SoC its basicly just a cash grab once u hit it i rather play LvD then have walls of p2w gatekeep everything in the game

  • @devanshudhapwal
    @devanshudhapwal Před 2 lety +10

    Honestly to play this game just --> Train ur troops and Either 1. Join a RALLY or 2. Defend a STRUCTURE/FLAG only if it's a whale doing it. Else the open field is ruined.

  • @thesilentone8401
    @thesilentone8401 Před 2 lety +5

    lets be honest - ima F2P and this museum doesnt really matter as much as the possible boosts u probably need are:
    Richard - barb chaining
    YSG - AOE value
    Aethel - for open field - those struggling to get SOC commanders
    At this point, we havent even expertised our Gold key coomanders - so museum doesnt really matter as much.
    And we can only expertise 2 SOC commanders a year maybe 3. So this museum boosts a bit but its not that deep.
    At this point its just the spenders ranting and not the F2P.
    Just be happy with what your given and most F2P who has entered SOC will be using Alex,YSG,richard - so only a few boosts we need.
    And are we really gonna try using these gold key commander boosts - when we havent got them expertised yet - and its just there at 5511.

    • @WickGaming
      @WickGaming  Před 2 lety +1

      Ok, whales will probably use just a couple of them, but the fact that the Exhibit Coins are so few and it will take so much time for a F2P to take advantage of all the commanders they managed to max, unless they spend some money, it's baffling. Because in the meantime you manage to get those relics unlocked, you will still fight with non-boosted commanders for a long time.
      The useful ones for me are:
      1) Aethelflaed
      2) YSG
      3) Mehmed
      4) Minamoto
      5) Charles Martel
      6) Mulan

    • @sven3546
      @sven3546 Před 2 lety

      @@WickGaming yea but of those the only ones that are really noteworthy for f2p are aethrl, Charles and YsG. Even if a f2p could just unlock buffs for YSG he already got most of the value for his commander out of the museum

  • @whitson6777
    @whitson6777 Před 2 lety +9

    Let's just be honest, Wick. Lilith has made RIDICULOUS amounts of money from this game; the game might be 90% low / f2p but that's not what drives Lilith's updates of the game. It's the 10% that purchase bundles / crystal tech etc that make Lilith the company it is. So, when something new comes out, of course they're going to pitch it right at the spenders with some half-assed attempt to make it f2p-friendly.
    Their business model is not to retain 10,000 f2p players, but instead perhaps entice one or two more people to turn into spenders. Or, attract 2 new whales for every 50 f2p. It's the same reason the new Cav commanders WILL be available in the middle of OL, because it means the spenders go out and spend-big to have an advantage

    • @hari19901
      @hari19901 Před 2 lety

      I agree.. at the end of the day they are a company.. And they need to pay their staffs and infrastructure costs and stuffs..

    • @ardesia1974
      @ardesia1974 Před 2 lety +1

      I agree with you but if there isn't alot of f2p that want to fill the flag and do open field / be killed form p2w with super ultra meta commander with super shiny goldy equipmentwith maxed cristal tech .. what's the point in spend a bunch of money in game - said by a f2p-ish

    • @Jerryhayes2
      @Jerryhayes2 Před 2 lety

      @@ardesia1974 What do you mean you don't like taking brutal trades and playing the game like some sort of grind fest unless you spend hundreds minimum a month?
      Playing afk farming simulator is worth it just to help garrison flags and spend hours healing your troops in 30 minute time chunks!

    • @jjthe
      @jjthe Před 2 lety

      @@hari19901 Lilith isn't exactly barely scraping by. They have made over 1 billion dollars off of this game. They aren't implementing all this crap to pay the bills dude. They are getting greedy and if they keep it up they'll take their billion dollar game and turn it into another cautionary tale just like City of Heros
      Over monetization is a thing and Lilith is moving closer and closer to it with every update they make

  • @ramgaming9475
    @ramgaming9475 Před 2 lety +10

    It is easier to expertise a commander than skill reset luck

  • @Jac76906
    @Jac76906 Před 2 lety +5

    This game is going from disappointment to depression 😂

  • @2957andy
    @2957andy Před 2 lety +14

    Wick is always the goat… your critique is always unbiased…

  • @TAETO1585
    @TAETO1585 Před 2 lety +15

    Imo this isn't actually that bad. I've always believed that spending should be a trade of money for time. That's what this is. The whales that are going to spend and unlock everything really fast aren't going to be using most of these commanders. For the majority of players I feel like they will only need 2-3 of these unlocked anyway.
    This is in contrast to crystal tech where, since it disappears after every kvk, there is no amount of "time" that you can invest to make up for the money spent.

    • @WickGaming
      @WickGaming  Před 2 lety +6

      Yes, but the question is: how much time difference there is? Because it's really a lot. A very big difference...
      Ok, whales will probably use just a couple of them, but the fact that the Exhibit Coins are so few and it will take so much time for a F2P to take advantage of all the commanders they managed to max, unless they spend some money, it's baffling. Because in the meantime you manage to get those relics unlocked, you will still fight with non-boosted commanders for a long time.
      And those are probably only the first batch of commanders released in the Museum. Why do you think there is a "lock" system where you can refund your relic? Because more commanders will be added. Who knows when, maybe in a year? And trust me, F2P will still have to unlock half of the previous one. The catch-up game will continue.
      This is only my take. I took a big breath before recording the video and thought about it without rushing. I tried to be as unbiased as I could (I am human at the end and this will stay my opinion, which I very welcome being critiqued), and I feel like I had to say what I said in this video.

    • @tarek5135
      @tarek5135 Před 2 lety +1

      exactly. There's really only 3-4 commanders that are worth it. Aeth can be unlocked for free which leaves 3 more which can be unlocked going through that new Lucerne-like event. The new Relics bundle is hot garbage

    • @texascpa
      @texascpa Před 2 lety +3

      This. This is what most people are not getting - whales will just do this so they have "completion", but does anyone think we're going to see whales running around with Fred's, Caesar's and El Cids? no.

    • @Yilmazfull
      @Yilmazfull Před 2 lety

      people forget money = time

    • @drpain5895
      @drpain5895 Před 2 lety +2

      I agree. That's why I don't think it's so bad. The main killer in crystal tech is that it's temporary. So, you can never catch up. Ever. So, it's a relentless pressure for people to spend.
      This system creates a temporary advantage with the possibility of undoing upgrades if other commanders are eventually buffed.

  • @Jerryhayes2
    @Jerryhayes2 Před 2 lety +2

    Newsflash - the game is intentionally designed to get you heavily invested in sunken cost fallacy decision making. Anything the developers do is made to bring in more money at all cost unless players revolt and stop spending.
    They always come up with new ways to monetize every game change or "upgrade", which are simply recycled template events with new graphics on them.

  • @ShiShi429
    @ShiShi429 Před 2 lety +3

    It's hard for me to believe they want this game to have longevity. I am convinced they want to grab as much money as they can before they move on to their next mobile game project.

    • @uimasterroshi171
      @uimasterroshi171 Před 2 lety +1

      No they won't.. if rok dies, they die. Never again can they replicate this gigantic money printer machine from a game. When it's over they will live the rest of their lives under palms on a beach and laugh about having as more money as possible to spend

  • @smexybaker9556
    @smexybaker9556 Před 2 lety +5

    None of the buffs from museum seem super prevalent tbh so I don't know if this changes much at all. F2p get ysg and then 1 other commander they like and that's probably all they needed anyways. Whales have SOC commanders which are just better.
    Unless someone posts data saying that museum buffs are OP for 3+ commanders then I don't see the issue.

    • @razor8507
      @razor8507 Před 2 lety +1

      true to some extent but this is only the first wave of commanders.

    • @Маниту
      @Маниту Před 2 lety +1

      free players held on to the fact that they picked out weak pairs of the opponent in the field. Now, having caught Mina-CC with infantry, f2p may lose. This is disorientation and imbalance. f2p will not play without a field. what is their pleasure to sit in flags and fill the rally? barbarians?

  • @cheneymx
    @cheneymx Před 2 lety +4

    Thx Wick for all these information! Yes, I knew it, too. just crystal system 2.0, good conclusion :-)

  • @ryanforgo3500
    @ryanforgo3500 Před 2 lety

    A gap is fine, just that the museum seems to have been meant to support those who have no place to find their place in season of conquest. So it should be more like 2 to 3 commanders for f2p kn average per kvk " AT LEAST"

  • @goldgamingROK
    @goldgamingROK Před 2 lety +6

    Wick, why dont you make Lilith a suggestion about this? Is there any way you can make some sort of petition so we could support you on this?

    • @Itachi-ph1sl
      @Itachi-ph1sl Před 2 lety +4

      he cant and they dont care.
      the game has way other probles than the museum, better make a crystal petition finally

    • @phoenixyoutuber6616
      @phoenixyoutuber6616 Před 2 lety

      @@Itachi-ph1sl they will care if like what Baba did boycott purchasing bundles for few days they'll add few good stuffs

  • @elliotolson5335
    @elliotolson5335 Před 2 lety +16

    To be honest, the fact that the buffs are permanent once unlocked makes this more acceptable for me.
    And to explain how the gap between high spenders and f2p is not that big of a deal, whales will be able to unlock more of these commander buffs, but they more often then not won’t use them, they will still use the meta commanders, not gold key or kvk 1-3 commanders. This update and the commanders that are buffed is mostly to help lower spenders who’s best bet is these older commander and cannot afford to max every new meta commander that comes to the game .
    Just my opinion and perspective. Lmk what you think

    • @WickGaming
      @WickGaming  Před 2 lety +16

      Yes, buffs are permanent, at least that. Ok, whales will probably use just a couple of them, but the fact that the Exhibit Coins are so few and it will take so much time for a F2P to take advantage of all the commanders they managed to max, unless they spend some money, it's baffling. Because in the meantime you manage to get those relics unlocked, you will still fight with non-boosted commanders for a long time.

    • @jjthe
      @jjthe Před 2 lety

      Yeah I'm with Wick. Whales can get the max a f2p player can get per event in a few days. I get that Lilith has to make money but the keep widening the gap between f2p and spenders. If things keep going the way they are, there's going to be nothing but whales left and when whales have no one to absolutely dominate they'll leave too

    • @elliotolson5335
      @elliotolson5335 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jjthe did you read my comment? Whales will have no use for 95% of the stuff that is being buffed. Pay to win whales will be using the new meta commanders. Whereas the f2p will use the older commander like from kvk2-3 or gold keys. Rok has always been, and will always be a grind game. Nothing will change now, f2p will get more use out of these buffs but they will still have to grind for it

    • @jjthe
      @jjthe Před 2 lety +1

      @@elliotolson5335 Of course I read it. That's kind of a prerequisite for disagreeing with a comment. Your line of thinking is not so bullet proof that only those that fail to read it would disagree. I don't agree with you. There are commanders that whales still use from pre soc. Particularly, whales that max crystal tech. On top of that, do you really think that these will be the only commanders that will end up in this new building? They will keep adding new commanders to it, obviously, and the more they add the harder it gets for f2p players to catch up

    • @rayq1234
      @rayq1234 Před 2 lety

      @@WickGaming reality is: f2p coming to SoC will not have enough gear and probably resources to sustaine that many marches... So it reflect their reality. Having more will not help them anymuch. Imo the pace they acquire the coins is relevant to their fighting capability, and they should be suggested to focus SoC commanders anyway. From gold keys if they just enter SoC their gold key commanders will not even be to a decent level... Well advised F2P will not bother anyway.

  • @sukeforth7043
    @sukeforth7043 Před 2 lety +1

    They cater to the people who spend. But don't realize the f2p are the ones who keep the game alive. If most all of them quit, there would be no game. Congrats, you're playing yourself Lilith.

  • @BobJones-bh9qz
    @BobJones-bh9qz Před 2 lety +1

    Lilith just let us choose kvk 2 every kvk

  • @Nina-kz9sh
    @Nina-kz9sh Před 2 lety +1

    Never pay anymore for Lilith.

  • @exodia9564
    @exodia9564 Před 2 lety

    I think that old commanders will be wick in front of commanders of season conquest anyway

  • @SomeGuy-bi5kd
    @SomeGuy-bi5kd Před 2 lety +1

    Crystal tech ... for commanders. Well put. 🙃

  • @casualgam3r19
    @casualgam3r19 Před 2 lety

    I wouldn’t be too upset. This is exactly what I was expecting.

  • @sdmh91
    @sdmh91 Před 2 lety +1

    Crystal tech 2.0... lol... u killed it

  • @jerryvic2
    @jerryvic2 Před 2 lety +4

    Do we know whether the exhibits and commander bonuses that are unlocked in one kvk will carry over to the next kvk? Or, like the crystal tech, do they get reset in every new kvk? Also, will the bonuses apply in sunset canyon and lost canyon?

    • @WickGaming
      @WickGaming  Před 2 lety +2

      Yes, they will be permanent..... AT LEAST....
      I'm not sure about Canyon but I think they apply everywhere

    • @jerryvic2
      @jerryvic2 Před 2 lety

      Thank you! Love your videos! I really appreciate everything you do for the community

  • @mrcalintz1
    @mrcalintz1 Před 2 lety

    They could have straight out number-buff the commanders (still nothing much but a good qol) instead of introducing an event with tokens. Oh see there's new fun stuff, of course gonna grab some free cash.

  • @badbearbad7694
    @badbearbad7694 Před 2 lety

    We're wrong thinking that museum is design to help f2P, is actually made to cater new spender coming out of pre SoC kvk. The idea is to let them buy museum bundle & buff their existing commander so they can compete in SoC kvk while waiting their chance to get and spend for current meta commander

  • @jannesvanh
    @jannesvanh Před 2 lety +1

    I strongly disagree.
    Having 2 new meta compatible commanders for a f2p is huge where adding some toys to a spender with already 14 meta expertise commanders wont really do much.
    This will in fact lower the cap between spenders and f2p because the f2p player will have an extra meta march with that 1 - 2 commanders they can get and the spender will just have new choices without a huge power gain on the battle field.

  • @srijansinha6422
    @srijansinha6422 Před 2 lety

    Thankyou Wick! Maybe if Lilith listens to you for once. It would end up benefiting them in the long run. And give the F2P community a reason to exist and enjoy.

  • @Tibi2k22
    @Tibi2k22 Před 2 lety

    Hello guys.Would u guys suggest Herald 5-5-5-1 with 5-5-2-4 Martel in open field?

  • @todayilearned272
    @todayilearned272 Před 2 lety

    saladin minomotos comings in openfields rly is good combo Saladin and Minamaoto because 40% attack 40%defance only from the commanders and i dont say for equipments :D

  • @Steven-ly9ei
    @Steven-ly9ei Před 2 lety

    wait i still dont fullt understand the system. so thee exhivit gives that buff, but these relics. do they give extra buffs? do we have any details yet on these. as someone who pre-plans everything this feaature is stressful

  • @truenoob3796
    @truenoob3796 Před 2 lety

    Well this was expected, not to be shocked

  • @aarontan2494
    @aarontan2494 Před 2 lety

    Wick, by any chance, will you know if these museum buffs work in canyon for soc?

  • @andraelwhite547
    @andraelwhite547 Před 2 lety

    This is not so bad for f2p because we can accumulate our time to have bonus from it. Maybe need sometimes but i can accept this.
    Crystal technology didn't let us accumulate our time because every kvk it's reset.
    Main problems museum is that some commander have so bad bonuses....

  • @MrFryin
    @MrFryin Před 2 lety +1

    TBH this is making me rethink my 5 marches and to try to limit or outright remove/replace some of these in my combinations. Some are inevitable however like YSG cause he's just too damn good.

  • @deathtod9599
    @deathtod9599 Před 2 lety

    Is it more worth to buy equipment in the vip shop as to make event?

  • @Durmomo0
    @Durmomo0 Před 2 lety +1

    As someone who doesnt spend much, and spent a long time as pure f2p, and wont buy the daily ones at all I dont mind so much. My reasoning is I, and I dont think many others, will be using too many of these commanders anyway and wont need to unlock them all.
    I will be doing Aethel, Charles, and YSG at least and I feel like I would be using more gold key commanders than most players...but I have been playing a while and I might be out of touch.
    If you are unlocking all of these commanders you might be a whale/collector and you are likely using better commanders anyway.
    Even with this I think the majority of these commanders people wont be using in the first place even if they are buffed.
    Now...some things we *dont* know that could change my opinion: How much the price goes up with each unlock and how many other commanders they will add in the future to this that you might actually need to buff.
    If they could somehow buff my Khan where he is useful again I would honestly be very tempted to find a way to make that work and recoup those sunk cost sculptures. I would assume the same goes for people with Edward.
    I do appreciate they added a way to return commanders back and get your coins (or some of them) to use on other commanders.
    I DO think its kind of contradictory to say "we are doing this for fairness" then its still limited by money quite a bit.

    • @WickGaming
      @WickGaming  Před 2 lety

      Yes, but the question is: how much time difference there is? Because it's really a lot. A very big difference...
      Ok, whales will probably use just a couple of them, but the fact that the Exhibit Coins are so few and it will take so much time for a F2P to take advantage of all the commanders they managed to max, unless they spend some money, it's baffling. Because in the meantime you manage to get those relics unlocked, you will still fight with non-boosted commanders for a long time.
      And those are probably only the first batch of commanders released in the Museum. Why do you think there is a "lock" system where you can refund your relic? Because more commanders will be added. Who knows when, maybe in a year? And trust me, F2P will still have to unlock half of the previous one. The catch-up game will continue. And how much the price will go up?
      This is only my take. I took a big breath before recording the video and thought about it without rushing. I tried to be as unbiased as I could (I am human at the end and this will stay my opinion, which I very welcome being critiqued), and I feel like I had to say what I said in this video.

  • @guzziiw
    @guzziiw Před 2 lety

    Does Museum bonus reset when kvk finishes, like crystal tech?

  • @GiangLe-ij3fn
    @GiangLe-ij3fn Před 2 lety

    I have one questions, is this buff available for every event like sunset canyon/lost canyon or only PvP fight?

  • @z4502
    @z4502 Před 2 lety

    Could be slower still for p2w. If f2p how many commanders do you think they have ready to buff right away? If f2p can get 3-4 in 3 months does that seem reasonable? I have a hard time imagining f2p needing more than.. 6 ? There needs to be more f2p/low spend mechanics. Do new game mode rewards count towards that? Any other good ways to do it?

  • @garettmerlino6906
    @garettmerlino6906 Před 2 lety

    Max leo with 5511 charlamange would be cool to see

  • @jjthe
    @jjthe Před 2 lety

    Lilith always finds new and innovative ways to give players what they want while simultaneously pissing on them

  • @yongluo7121
    @yongluo7121 Před 2 lety

    one key question is whether this skill buff will reset in each kvk ? player need pay $ to unlock the same museum skill in each HA kvk like crystal tech? if it's true, it's even worse...

  • @sh1466
    @sh1466 Před 2 lety

    Why is no one thinking that the 30 day museum event is a one time only event?
    I am….

  • @alexpetry9374
    @alexpetry9374 Před 2 lety

    If we're going to need to complete the museum again every kvk, that's bad enough that it's not worth investing in old commanders

  • @Dean-zc8cb
    @Dean-zc8cb Před 2 lety

    Barb chaining is no more available after new update. And i think it's a lot harder hit to f2p than some museum bs.

    • @WickGaming
      @WickGaming  Před 2 lety

      What? No more barb chaining?

    • @Dean-zc8cb
      @Dean-zc8cb Před 2 lety

      @@WickGaming You can't run through barb march anymore it just keeps moving with you and drop agro.

  • @gnesh48
    @gnesh48 Před 2 lety

    If I was a parent I would never suggest this game to my child, the fun thing about a game is skill competition & of course fun.
    But this game just show us about greedyness & wealth competition.

  • @jacwins4905
    @jacwins4905 Před 2 lety

    This was expected, and not even bad imo. If all the commanders were meta then sure it would be a problem, but they are not. People who would be buying the bundles dont even need these commander buffs. If anything have the bundle very cheap helps low spenders.

  • @MubashirKhan-xg5ge
    @MubashirKhan-xg5ge Před 2 lety

    Its always the same. They release something new, and p2w get them in few weeks, f2p snd low spender would spend years to get it. And later after its not much relevent, they introduce new ways to get the mat for it.

  • @ajychan
    @ajychan Před 2 lety

    I’m not worried. Nobody will be using these commanders anyways if Nevsky like commanders start coming out. Lol.

  • @Mr_Anez
    @Mr_Anez Před 2 lety

    I am not surprise Lilith always disappointing their loyal players what a bs company they only care about those PTW players trowing their life saving into a stupid game that it’s only getting worse with the years Thank you Wick you always keep it real and we all appreciate that from you

  • @sy-gi5hv
    @sy-gi5hv Před 2 lety

    Does it apply to canyon sunset?

  • @i7draco620
    @i7draco620 Před 2 lety

    Didn't expect it to be actually good and Lilith met my expectations 😂

  • @79ixion
    @79ixion Před 2 lety

    Crees que martel con la nueva actualización podría ir bien con Guan yu? Creo que le daría el escudo, defensa, vida y ahora ataque.

  • @AB-fv4tr
    @AB-fv4tr Před 2 lety

    I get your point but I think it’s not that serious because only a few are good & F2P/low spender will only have so many of those max skill. Even if they get 1 per scroll over time they will surely unlock those.

  • @seagull6112
    @seagull6112 Před 2 lety

    This update certainly making the gap between f2p/low spender and high spender get even bigger

  • @hari19901
    @hari19901 Před 2 lety +5

    Honestly, for me I just need Charles Martel and Aethelflad.. And I'm a very low spender.. As long as I'm able to unlock those I should be fine.. We dont need to unlock all the commanders anyways.. Whichever makes sense for us is what we unlock.. I think the mega whales anyways will use better commanders than us anyways, so even if they unlock it there is more chances that they wont be able to use it coz they have better commanders to use it.

    • @Steven-ly9ei
      @Steven-ly9ei Před 2 lety

      thats sort of what im thinking..... cause you will still be working on commanders and eventually youll not use most of this stuff anyways, i only really want aeths personall :')

  • @Sebastian-sx2vj
    @Sebastian-sx2vj Před 2 lety

    Ya no van a volver a poner Pergaminos Lucerna?

  • @certifiedgaming3931
    @certifiedgaming3931 Před 2 lety

    What balance did they destroy? I mean do you expect f2p to have these commanders max ? They will hardly have a half cao / cm so having one commander unlocked per kvk is pretty decent while p2w have mina/ Barca everything max so they need more ways to buff all these … I see nothing wrong in this event

  • @achilles7998
    @achilles7998 Před 2 lety

    Wick, thanks so much for the info. Just wish that your video showed fewer ads..i understand its how youtubers make money but i watched 3 ads in a 9mins video.

  • @RubyInferno
    @RubyInferno Před 2 lety +2

    Lol...I mean I am one of the super low spenders who still manages to enjoy the game a lot but pay-gating the holy f*** out of everything is just not cool. First that bloody crystal tech tree & now these daily bundles......sigh. How can most players even be happy about this? Come on Lilith.

  • @abedonly
    @abedonly Před 2 lety

    Interesting does the relic work for the secondary commander

  • @ccw1010
    @ccw1010 Před 2 lety

    As a conculsion, this is a game that not F2P freindly.
    1) F2P will remains F2P. F2p player play years without spending, and they wouldn't spend now.
    2) A golden chest commander takes years to max, so I don't thning the boost will help, because no 1 is spending GH on gold chest commander.
    3) Small spenders : Small spender will save the money and work on the current commander that is S+ tiers. at least these investemnt can bring joy for months, if not years.
    4) Whale : forget about it, they already have all the commander maxed out. (At least the A tiers and above).
    Unless is FOC, otherwise this is waste of time. May be a few youtubers / whales will try to unlock all and do the testing.

  • @phoenixyoutuber6616
    @phoenixyoutuber6616 Před 2 lety +4

    This is soo bad, they will just keep adding good stuffs and adding bundles, making the gap bigger between p2w and f2p, not telling that p2w is a bad thing, atleast don't do shit like this, bruh boycott purchasing bundles :/

    • @MrFasho123
      @MrFasho123 Před 2 lety +1

      p2w is always bad in games... Its borderline like a legal cheat in game.

    • @phoenixyoutuber6616
      @phoenixyoutuber6616 Před 2 lety

      @@MrFasho123 i mean it isn't a bad thing actually, it matters only when there a huge difference/advantage between p2w players and f2p players

    • @MrFasho123
      @MrFasho123 Před 2 lety +1

      @@phoenixyoutuber6616 Thing is that p2w is a big difference in this game. I played other game with p2w where the pay part doesn't give too huge gain on f2p and Rok isn't even close to that. Go to SoC and you literally can have a whale kill a low spender t5 player as if he was a t3 player

    • @phoenixyoutuber6616
      @phoenixyoutuber6616 Před 2 lety

      @@MrFasho123 exactly what I wanted to tell

  • @TJMiton
    @TJMiton Před 2 lety

    this is nothing like crytal tech because its permanent...

  • @Ryusofian
    @Ryusofian Před 2 lety +1

    Good job lilith for making money but decreasing consumer player want to play the game 😅

  • @muCephei_
    @muCephei_ Před 2 lety

    Not surprising. With this gap, they are hoping to force F2P players to spend more.
    Insatiable greed often lead to your own death.
    But think about this, while many players are forced to spend money and hating it, and counting their budget.... Lilith is laughing to the bank

  • @georgegrey1269
    @georgegrey1269 Před 2 lety

    @Wick Gaming You are my brother, tell me honestly : This game deserve anymore our attention and money? And Minamoto with Haniball deserve our money now?

  • @daviddimeglio5466
    @daviddimeglio5466 Před 2 lety

    you need to do a video how much spend in rss and speedup in a battle, im f2p and in 1 hour of battle i spend almost 1b of each rss....

  • @kingleonel2098
    @kingleonel2098 Před 2 lety

    It's time for us to push Lilith to enter the Pay To Earn and NFT's world they will still make lots of money and we can make money as well this is the future of gaming invest your money and get some pay back 🤞

  • @k19a61
    @k19a61 Před 2 lety

    Looks like my prediction was spot on haha but not so impressive since Lilith just makes it too easy

  • @moazamfareedwattoo5445

    does this make Mina worth investing?if yes , is it good with saladin?

    • @Durmomo0
      @Durmomo0 Před 2 lety +1

      Depending on where you are in the game I think William or XY will be a better bet.

  • @yudhishthir8588
    @yudhishthir8588 Před 2 lety +1

    Have you got testing reports,in those Mina and cao cao beat even gyun Leo in one on one
    And xy Mina beat pakal Harald in one on one
    I mean Mina with anything is now broken beating everyone in one on one even saladin Mina beating many commanders pairing

  • @seedless461
    @seedless461 Před 2 lety

    Swing and a miss Lilith

  • @SomeGuy-bi5kd
    @SomeGuy-bi5kd Před 2 lety

    I would appreciate if you can test Mina (buffed) with Nevsky.

  • @MrRalphshih
    @MrRalphshih Před 2 lety

    This feature is just a pain ,we need a buff to the old commanders but, bundles again?! Fuck! Not worth it

  • @lordpraedyth6990
    @lordpraedyth6990 Před 2 lety

    As an FTP player, I appreciate this video and understand your stance! But, realistically whales are not going to be using these old commanders anyway so if they want to spend to unlock all of the commanders that they are not going to use? I guess more power to them?

  • @littlelionstudios
    @littlelionstudios Před 2 lety

    Its hard to believe that a f2p player has expertised many old commanders and they don t need more that 2 or 3 buffed old commanders . Lilith has mouths to feed also

  • @wilsongv95
    @wilsongv95 Před 2 lety +7

    On your previous video I commented “this is only going to increase the gap between P2W and F2P” and I got really bad negative feedback from players because they thought this was going to solve everything 😞……… Guess who got the last laugh thoughhh 😂😂 #FreeToPlay #DontHave #TheseCommanders #Expertised #WeAre #GoingTo #GetWrecked #EveryKvK 😂

  • @thiagoalexsander
    @thiagoalexsander Před 2 lety

    is it possible to use these buffs outside of kvk?

  • @radupatriche184
    @radupatriche184 Před 2 lety +2

    Even though at the first look it might seem to be more advantageous for p2w (because they will buy the bundles and unlock the buffs sooner) i don't think it makes much more of a difference from a whale stand point. They will NEVER give up on meta pairs (such as Amani/Artemisia, XY/William, Guan/Leo, Pakal/Harald, Zeno, Jadwiga and so on) just because some gold key commanders got some buffs, not that they are not great. The buffs are very good, especially for players that are gonna use those commanders, which are mainly f2p and low spenders, due to the fact they can't compete in MGEs or too many Wheels.
    In addition...as a f2p/low spender, you will only gonna use ~3 marches in open field...so you don't actually need to unlock all of them very fast. You can wait 1 KvK to unlock 1 or 2 buffs (except Aethl, who everyone is gonna get anyways) so by the time next KvK's passes are opened, you'll gonna probably have them unlocked.
    In conclusion, the update is very good and i'm sure it limits the gap between older players and newer ones. For example, my account is 900 days old, so i have 3 fully expertised marches for open field...i'm gonna struggle to fit the 4th march into the open field cuz of the healing costs (speedups mainly). So...i'm only gonna go with the Aethl buff (cuz i still use her as a 2nd to Trajan) and probably Charles...cuz he's on my wall. I'm not gonna replace him very soon anyway because i don't plan to get rallied (cuz i'll be 0ed in no time anyway) or to lead some garrison. So Charles is the 2nd choice for me. Oh...and YSG probably, cuz he's also on my wall. And that's it. I can wait 1 KvK to get them...i'm in no rush.
    The plan is simple...if you only gonna use 1 or 2 of these commanders you dont need to stress about. You'll have them pretty quick. The rest of them are probably easily replaceable by commanders you should always get (Alex, Guan, Trajan, Saladin). You wont be looking at 10% marchspeed and some % attack, trust me.

    • @datmuhq6821
      @datmuhq6821 Před 2 lety

      For sure. However, there is plenty of people entering SOC all the time with approximately 1 year old accounts. F2P/low spenders will usually only have YSG and Aeth maxed at that point. Probably working on Alex and having other gold key commanders at 5-5-x-x. I’m sure they would love to get buffs for Charles/YSG/Aeth/Mehmed etc. at a decent pace and not be behind in that too.
      Still a good update since like you said people are still restricted in terms of marches anyway. No need to have all of them unlocked. Just would be nice if the difference in pace wasn’t as big.

  • @sharptalk2006
    @sharptalk2006 Před 2 lety +1

    Your videos are insightful and critique is honest. I appreciate your hard work. Thank you ❤️.
    Side note : f lilith 😂

  • @francisgamingyt9290
    @francisgamingyt9290 Před 2 lety

    Lilith makes more money with this update 🤣🤣 RIP to us F2P 😭😭

  • @Jim_Colbert
    @Jim_Colbert Před 2 lety

    Super greedy lilith...😅😅

  • @i26C
    @i26C Před 2 lety

    Honestly I don't understand why people complain at Lillith so much. The game is great and it's F2P. I've played F2P for a while and managed 750k+ dead per kvk and steadily increased KP per kvk.
    We're essentially meeting up for an online LARK battle every few months, with loads of free content. I recently bought a VIP 15 acc (than i can sell once done) for not that much money because i enjoy the game, it's not that much more fun than F2P.
    And this update is 100% f2p friendly. It closes the gap between generation 1 and SOC commanders, that's it.

  • @ryanuber1539
    @ryanuber1539 Před 2 lety

    I feel bad for the F2P players who won’t be able to afford the museum rewards but it seems you can still at least focus on 1-2 commanders for buffs by doing the daily challenges. It’s not every commander but most F2P I see in today’s current meta aren’t using 5 marches in the field anyways unless they have been playing for years.

  • @ContemptionGaming
    @ContemptionGaming Před 2 lety

    Well... Not what I was hoping for... but, something else to buy during recharge i guess... I cringe at the kraken running around with 7 marches and with many running these additionally buffed commanders... scary... KvK Season 2 anyone?

  • @LiteCoconut
    @LiteCoconut Před 2 lety

    players that have money and can spend on this will be happy because they will become stronger. f2p like me will hate it. lilith don't care bout f2p.

  • @moria2532
    @moria2532 Před 2 lety +1

    Ah shit here we go again..

  • @Minextube
    @Minextube Před 2 lety

    Great video and not surprised lillith want more cash from us 😒