Path of Titans Full DINO TIER LIST! (For Officials)
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Welcome to my full dino tier list for officials! I figured it was about time I made one of these since the current meta is pretty solidified right now, although I feel like a new dino release or the struth tlc is right around the corner...
0:00 Video Overview
0:56 Achillo
1:11 Alio
1:41 Allo
2:15 Cerato
2:41 Conc
3:02 Dasp
3:48 Raptors
4:15 Meg
4:57 Metri
5:47 Pycno
6:11 Sarco
6:36 Spino
7:02 Sucho
7:39 Rex
8:30 Alberta
9:02 Amarg
9:36 Ano
10:26 Bars
10:53 Campto
11:17 Deinocheirus
11:51 Eo
12:38 Iggy
13:04 Kentro
13:53 Lamb
14:18 Pachy
14:51 Steg
15:18 Styraco
15:45 Struth
16:19 Hatz
16:46 Thal
17:12 Eurhi & Kai
17:47 Ramph
18:08 Reordering Within Grades
19:27 Closing Thoughts
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Love your videos Khanware! Maybe top 5 poi's for questing?
I want to see playing allo!
Modded Dino tier list when that would be interesting 🧐
I actually agree with your rankings except Rhamphy I give Rhamphy d tier simply because it’s the best ano counter right now. That’s its only real niche. Plague Carrier puts Ano on a very short timer before it starves to death and Ano can’t really do anything to counter nor kill it because it’s a pounce flyer and lucky feathers. People are really sleeping on this little guy
Fair points! Ramph out here starving turtles lol
@@KhanwarePlague Carrier is such a nasty debuff imagine it on creature that can deal damage and plague Carrier would be busted
I did not know this, this will help with cuddlepile dismantling
Fantastic idea g I’ll defo try that out next time I play
Tbh I play Ano a lot, I didn’t even know what the debuff done. Personally sarco is my biggest problem. I use forager on Ano since the whole hunker bug, food everywhere. Good idea though. With the new update too I’d say that strat is more viable now too
As an eurhino main, im glad somebody finally ranked the aquatics higher than D. Its honestly staggering how so many people dismiss them
Pre-nerf Alio SS Tier 🤣
Solid list Khan 👊🏻
Thanks! Dude I used to love playing alio 😔
The real S tier: Discord
Lmao! So facts
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@@onlyenzoYT La ilaha illallah
While it can’t deal any direct damage, Rhamphy has some kinda busted abilities people are really sleeping on and it can be surprisingly effective in combat. The scab picker ability paired with the plague carrier ability will reduce a creature’s bleed heal rate by 70%, effectively increasing the bleed output of your team by 70% for a single target. If you’re in a pack of concas against an eo, they could easily take turns exchanging ripping kicks and claws on the eo as it attempts to turn around to take a swing at your teammates and you could go in and bump up that bleed like crazy! Additionally, plague carrier drains the eo’s hunger and thirst which means it’ll heal slower, and if you’ve got a second rhamph on the team running bloodsucker, you’d help out your conca friends to get hits in by reducing the eo’s turn radius by 50%. Not to mention the 20% damage buff rhamph can give which would just be cruel when paired with a dasp pack, and the fishy breath ability that lets you add almost any buff you want to your team for 2 minutes. Wake up guys rhamph is S tier!
Ramph definitely isn't useless, in terms of the context of this tier list it pretty much is though. There are some other comments just like yours about ramph, to which I have said: Fair points! But I did say the list was viewed through the lens of actual combat, so that's why I automatically disqualified it. Ramph does have some cool and useful support abilities, it just has no direct way to make kills
I mean, fight wise ram is useless as it can do any atcua damage but SUPPORT wise it is op as all heck. If it could do damage I think it would be unstoppable, but the fact remains, it can't do anything when grouped with other rams. Yes one comment says it can solo an ano with plauge but ano can still drink and eat undisturbed. Ram+concavs will always scare me but he did say at the start the list was taking into account each dino in a group with only its own dino and ram can't do anything by itself sadly.
Love the tips iam geting for when I go ram with friends though.
@@Saphira3441 Ahh I see now, the list is disqualifying things without DPS. Makes more sense! But yes, rhamphy is OP as heck in a supportive role. Have 1 on scab picker and 1 on bloodsucker in a group of concas and you’ve got yourself a deadly combo.
I should’ve made that more clear, I thought I did but a few people have been confused on Ramph’s rank. That’s on me!
Thank you ! I know this is a lot of work and with the ever changing meta a tier list is so helpful especially for solo players.
Good video, I've been catching up since my last time playing during the night stalker update, and the meta is in an interesting spot. I'd be curious to see a list of where you'd like the playables to be at compared to this.
I feel like eo is more dangerous than rex just based on eo being able to charge someone getting too close while rex can't really go on the offensive
I'd counter argue that charge is easy to dodge and rex has bone break so it's much more scary at the moment imo :)
Eo doesn't have any attacks to protect its backside now which is a big pitfall compared to the rex, who at least has tail attack or stomp. If you have a dino that's fast enough or has better turn speed than eo and play smartly you've basically won that fight
best tier list i ever seen
You should make a mixpack tierlist for both diets. I think that dinos such as metri and rhamph are so much more useful when accompanied by stronger dinos and they would be better represented in a group tier list.
Edit: you could also talk about suggested group compositions that you think are strong at the moment.
That also might work well in a top 5 format!
Being an allo main, allosaurus is very much capabal of dealing with dinos above and in it's weight class, most allo players I have seen make the big mistake of face tanking most dinos, when you can easily tail ride them. for example, sucho has a worser turn circle than allo, so allo can easily stay behind a sucho away from it's high dmg claw barrage. with dinos like Iggy or stego with high dmg dealing back attacks, its best to flick bite and know your prey's attack cooldowns to time your attacks. But I do agree on addign a second headslot for allo
Allo has a super hard time punching up IF the larger Dino is playing correctly. Of course, if someone gives you a tail ride it’s a free kill, I mean a campto could eventually make a kill with a tail ride lol. Sucho is currently the bane of allo’s existence if it can catch it, I speak from experience lol. Allo’s def not bad, just hard to punch up compared to other Dinos in the higher tiers imo
Awesome video! Only input I got is you’re going to need a lot of raptors to take down 1200hp bars and very few mistakes. Raptors are so fragile
The devs always neglect my favorite Dinos 😔
Campto tlc when
@@Khanwareit got one a year ago
I meant ability tlc since it’s objectively gotten a lot worse with all the nerfs lol
Allo lol. A stat monster with such a sad moveset that drags it down
As a raptor and allo main, it's especially frustrating. I used to love playing deinon, but now it's virtually impossible to take anything down without a pack. I've since switched to utah and austra (I play community mainly) or achillo if none of the above are available. When I'm bored of raptors, I switch to allo. I wish allo had more abilities, but I'm glad it's able to evade/out maneuver slower apexes and mess up lower tiers. Although, a large pack of raptors will absolutely annihilate allos. 😅
i had a cool idea for rhampy where it becomes a bat sp it sucks blood off dinos for food/water then it takes it off from the dinos health like 5 damage per bite and gains food or water amd it applys the debuff from scab picker i do believe
i actually find it very easy to kill Dasp on Allo, especially if my Allo is defense subspecies, standard sub works too... buut its fragile but faster than defense but i like def more cz it can tank more "heavy bite"...
Yeah allo can shred dasp if played right, you just have to be careful. It's got a higher combat weight and does a lot of damage. However, if you get bone broke, it's pretty much game over. Something like sucho could easily survive the bone break and still makes kills which is why allo is where it is on this list :)
@@Khanware XD whenever i get bone breaked, i simple walk towards them and bite their heads cz heavy bite has a cooldown if I'm correct cz they cant spam it, but its different when they're running the normal bite, and the bait + tail attack is extremely helpful and pretty easy to do too :D
I like how you didn't immediately place the apexs at the top lol just saying any bad apex player can be easily clapped by something like a dasp or allo-
I have to disagree with rhamph just because it "doesn't do dmg" doesn't make it a bad playable in combat with fishy breath blood suck and the dmg buff call it makes a good support dino for large packs or teammates
Fair points! But I did say the list was viewed through the lens of actual combat, so that's why I automatically disqualified it. Ramph does have some cool and useful support abilities, it just has no direct way to make kills
@@Khanware oh that makes more sense alright good list regardless 👍🏻
The single best tier list ive seen for official dinos bravo
However i do think con and rex need to move up a slot lol
Appreciate it!
Yup totally agree ow maybe not with meg and hatz..I'd lower them in their current state
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I mostly agree but I think that Pycno would be high C tier or bottom B tier. But overall great ranking.
Pycno is so underrated rn. They actually got more of a buff than a nerf, cause they got a health buff, and as long as your running the charge foes full dmg.
True but it struggles in combat without a group because of the change to charge
Yeh but that's how pyc always was. You can't really trade hits, so u had to get an opening with the charge. The best way to do that was with a group. Though I do agree something u can't fight as well anymore like achillos
@@JacksonHall-bl3kd yeah I love pycno shame point blank charge doesn’t do the dmg it used to because that’s one of the things that made pycno scary even with its hp nerf
Pycno is one of my mains and it can beat most Dino’s. Play near hills or water. Use the stronger head but for more knockback use tail and do not waste stam.
1 thing I have noticed is ppl underestimate the knockback. Pycno can beat allot of Dino’s if they have lower stam bcs he can hit n run with headbutt. But only start combat with ambush charge or knock them back into hill or water to waste stam. I have killed stronger Dino’s like anky just by using knockback in 1 hit. No non apex can 1v1 a pycno on a hill.
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I'm in the camp where I only ever played Allosaurus and when raptors had bleed it was scary but I feel like they went in the wrong direction with the Nerf. I think bleed should still be a thing, but the duration of which the raptors would be pounced would be halved. That bleed should only scale with the size of the dinosaur, but if you have multiple raptors pouncing it would scale up the bleed proportionate to how many stacks you'd gain when you're getting attacked by them
I am literally begging the devs to give Thalasso more abilities and a TLC, but it seems to act lower than dirt from both the devs and the community.
Hatzegopteryx did get Peck Barrage fixed so it is spamable again
My thoughts and opinion
Alio: Only good in packs. Free kill when solo.
Achillo: Decent on it's own against its tier and lower. Struggles against higher tiers.
Allo: Pretty good against most creatures. Does poorly against anything if bonebroken. Sucho dominates it.
Cerato: Pretty decent overall
Conav: Not bad. Needs a turn radius buff
Deinon: A faster and more agile Laten (as of current)
Daspleto: Kills most things once it lands bone break. Easily killable once out of stamina
Hatzeg: Very mid. Does terrible when pounced on
Laten: A better Deinon with less soeed and turn (as of current)
Thalasso: Absolutely weak
Sarco: Insanely high damage. Low health
Spino: Poor speed management. Can hold its own for a long while
Sucho: An Allo on steroids in a nutshell
Rex: Absolute unit on any server. Turn radius prevents it from being too op
I play hatz a lot and megs are literally the easiest thing in the game to kill, including mods. Its unreal how easy you can fly them down and just face tank while taking like 15% damage lol
Put around 50 hours into Hatz recently, and I was pleasantly surprised at just how strong it was. And how fast it is on land. Combined with the peck that pierces armor and ignores CW..
Sheesh.
do you play on servers with modded dinos? a modded tier list would be really cool
At the moment I only play officials, but maybe someday I’ll try mods out
ngl seeing a group on concaves and ramps and the ramps bleed buff IS scary to me.
I feel like each dino should have a solo tier and a group tier because mulitiple dinos got lower tiers because of their solo play and you gave others higher tiers for their group play and vice-versa
Tbh I was expecting some brainrot like "rex ss tier achi F tier!!!" or something like that, but this was well thought out and agreeable for the most part. I'm not sure if I fully agree with Kai and Amarga, but I don't mind their placement.
We try to avoid the brainrot around here as much as possible ;) lol thank you
Thalassadromeus can do decent aerial combat. Of course collision damage is a real thing but experienced thal players know where to attack without taking any. I still agree on your ranking but thal makes PoT hard mode and its exciting!
Plus its pretty even with raptors with low combat weight and both realizing the dangers of their own attacks to eachother. Im talking purely adults fighting. Ive been there many times lol
As a kent main i was unlucky not to be able to play it before the nerf. I still like it, but ive seen so many videos (from before it got nerfed) and the gameplay seemed much better 😢
Yeah I used to play a lot of kent, it's soo bad now post nerf. The turning radius is what got me. It's just too much to play around, not a needed nerf imo. Nerfing it's stats is completely fine because you just have to be way more careful and smarter when playing, but nerfing its turn radius just changes its actual playstyle and mechanics completely cause you can't dodge and take passes like you used to. I was quite sad to see how bad that change was when they nerfed it
Ever doing modded guides? Like deimosuchus and austro grab
Right now I only play officials, but maybe at some point in the future I’ll cover mods :)
It’s funny when an ano player starts trash talking in global that people needed a 10 dino megapack to kill a mere Ano. Although Ano is currently invencible lmfao.
Honestly I agree with a lot of these picks. I would place iggy in b tier (mainly because it’s literally an allo that went vegan) and I would put eo in a tier because a good eo can jump you with charge if you’re not careful. Conc with full turn build could probably make it to b tier (yes I’m a conc main so maybe this is a dumb argument :p)
And campto well… I’ve seen their dark side and it’s not pretty (dead megs galore)
Plus with a camouflage skin campto can almost kill anything if it waits for them to sleep, I almost killed a sucho once as a campto XD
Ramph still has more going on with the debuffs than Thalasso or Campto imo
For sure! I just made the list in terms of actual ability to fight, which it can’t, which is why it’s so low down :)
You think Allo will get TLC soon? Like the extra head slot?
Probably not soon, but hopefully. I have a feeling we’ll see miragaia, microraptor, and maybe the bars tlc first
As a Rex/Sarco main, I respect the B tier Rex got. It’s definitely very easy to run from if you don’t get a bone break fast. The sarco probably deserves an S tier imo but I’m a bit biased 😅
14:39 you gotta remind them Pachy mains 😂
My main was the first S tier Dino: Dasp
Trust me after you have a rhamp starving you to death while you’re already low on food you’ll be glad it doesn’t do damage
What?? Since when can Rhamp starve you? Rhamp have always been just a loud noise maker that is practically useless.
@@Empathyandappathy guess you never read the ability descriptions
Tbh i agree with most of the list except ramph and conc,ramph is good for debuffing annoying animals or starve anos which can be very useful
And conc lacks dmg,but has INSANE bleed in packs,i remember one time i grouped with 4 others and we were to kill pretty much all by sit and wait tbh,the issue is that:You gotta wait for em to bleed out
Regardless gd video❤
Conc is bad, sorry even a pack of concs is a joke everywhere, it hasn’t been good since before it got that massive nerf.
@@Empathyandappathy what nerf?They buffed concs bleed by half lol and my pack keeps killing rexs,eos and bars so i doubt its as bad as ppl think
Never let this man cook and never hear him out
Noticed raptors started to do bleed again? I got jumped by some
When I joined u guys and they gave me the bleed affect but I don’t think they actually gave the bleed do damage
Huh don’t think I’ve seen that. Sounds like a bug
You forgot Rhamps true role in this game: Doing the refresh water quest over and over at IC to keep it habitable for the megapacks. Solid tier list otherwise though.
A group of pycnos is still deadly now with the heath buff. I would put them in B or a tier, honestly. The same goes with allos
Bars personally would be in B tier for me, as its defense call; lone survivor and defense sub species make it a sheer wall to be messed with since its headbutt is spammable and high damage while its tail attack and tail slam are good for tricking upcoming opponents if you’re attacking with only one or the other, confusing them for a face tank, as I have killed 2 dasps and a rex as a solo bars in impact creator whilst being bone broke for most of it
Its stats are good but more moves in its kit would be really nice, and the only issue with bars is once you catch someone to low health they’re likely to get away because you’ve wasted more than half your stamina trying to keep up
Bars headbutt is actually extremely low damage, it’s 35. It’s hardest hitting ability (tail slam) does 75 so it’s decent. In my experience, bars is just a walking snack bar, never had a problem with killing one, just takes a while. Maybe you’re a really good bars player!
I prefer speed bars against apexes, you can use it to kite them basically. Also, unless your opponent is completely on the defense or if it's a trading hits situation with an apex, you should use tail swipe instead of tail slam. It has the same dps with much less recharge to leave you vulnerable. Headbutt can be useful against smaller enemies but usually isn't a good idea.
Maybe all the Bars player I go against are really good, but I struggle to kill one
bars is really good, I honestly don't understand that placement.
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Im gonna have to disagree on Rhamp's F tier choice.
As one of like, 4 Rhampy mains, Rhamp is really good when paired with bleeders like conca or allo. Rhamps buffs really allow for some extra punch to bleed dmg, and plague carrier is a great ano counter.
Rhamps Bloodsuck attack is also great with things like rex and the such cause they get a full 50% turn nerf. On top of that, Rhamp can grant a 10% dmg buff very quickly to allies, and make healing more effective due to Fishy Breath.
I would advocate for at best a high C for Rhampy or a low B at worst, F simply cause it can't deal dmg seems a little harsh imo.
I say these tiers, because Rhampy has the main flaws of things like no dmg, almost oneshot by everything, and Lucky Feather being very inconvenient at times, and not activating on certain dmg sources.
Sorry for the wall of text, great video! God i hope my boy Bars gets some love soon...
Ramph definitely isn't useless, in terms of the context of this tier list it pretty much is though. There are some other comments just like yours about ramph, to which I have said: Fair points! But I did say the list was viewed through the lens of actual combat, so that's why I automatically disqualified it. Ramph does have some cool and useful support abilities, it just has no direct way to make kills.
I probably could have made it more clear that I intended this list to be around fighting/combat specifically, in which Ramph can’t participate because it can’t deal damage. That’s on me!
@@Khanware Ah, I must've missed the first part! Yeah, Rhamp in damage terms is as F as F Tier gets. Maybe Scab Picker dealing like, 10 seconds of bleed could make it more helpful?
@@GizmoTTV Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Adding raw damage to its kit would probably make it way too annoying, but having a small bleed might make it a little more directly useful. Nothing crazy though, like maybe stacking 2 seconds a bite or something would do it. Just would like to see ramph have some ability to deal a tiny bit of damage! Those teeth look too gnarly to not lol
So im just a dinosaur enthusiast in general who has a passing interest in this game. Im not super familiar with the community. These nicknames have me pretty dang confused. I still got most of them but it was hella confusing.
Most of these nicknames (as you probably guessed) come right from the game itself. If you Google, "Path of Titans dino stats wiki" and scroll down, you'll see a list of all their full names and be able to see where the abbreviated versions come from :)
you forgot that an anno can esily be killed if a sarco clamps him and holds him or the sarco clamps him and drops him making it reset the hunker down but that also forces you to play near the water unless the sarco is super brave lol
Yes, but you're practically throwing if you play near sarco infested waters with ano lol
My tier for official 1 igyy i always fight groups and end them ez and cera is a ez dino for igyy but with the nerf bro its a ez dino for every dino💔
Allo really needs the stam usage from the claw attack taken away that’s a dumb decision. A bleeding dino that can’t keep them running because of the stam usage.
I would appreciate you saying the full names I don’t really know who you’re talking about half the time
Pretty much everyone uses the abbreviated names in game because the full names are more cumbersome. If you go to the Path of Titans wiki, you can see a full list of all dinos in the game with their full names. That might help you see which is which better if you’re new
@@Khanware thanks
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I disagree with rhamphs placement since it’s a strictly support playable and thought this list is combat based rhamph should definitely be higher if you take into consideration how useful its buffs are, I personally would place rhamph into B to C tier as it can change the outcome of fights with it’s abilities but overall I think this is the best tier list I’ve seen currently. I just hope they nerf things like dasps crazy bb if not remove it, nerf suchos barrage dmg, nerf achillos shred and boost its pounce requirement to 6k or above because solo achillo shreds stego sadly and nerf anos tail aoe
Yeah ramph can be a pretty strong support if played right! Only reason I placed ramph so low is cause I was basing this tier list off of ability to fight and then adding on bonuses like healing/support buffs, and since ramph can’t deal damage, it got an F. Sorry if that wasn’t clear!
@@Khanware no no that’s fine I just thought that though rhamph can’t fight it should have been higher then f tier but i understand your reasoning for putting it there 😊
I don't think you've played much Bars lately my guy, that thing is still really op. Pretty much the only thing that can kill it for sure is a larger pack of medium-sized carnis. Rex can be a tough fight but can be won with relative ease if you can avoid bonebreak. Spino is usually easy kill. Achilos are probably the biggest threat to bars, but still manageable for a good player, and if all else fails you can just escape into deep water.
So a lot of people have said, I still find it hard to believe though. Spino I could see losing, but I don't think a rex or eo should be losing at all (I heard they just made bars' tail slam AoE bigger so maybe that will help)
@@Khanware personally I use speed bars and in my experience beating a rex is usually a matter of avoiding bone break, and eo can go either way but it's possible to kill one by kiting if you have enough stam.
@@matyaskassay4346 interesting, I never considered speed bars. Well I know bars can beat rex and eo, I’m just saying it shouldn’t easily lol. I feel like if the rex or eo know what they’re doing, they shouldn’t lose
i think, bars deserves better. i as a bars main (ofc i'm mad about it being in d tier lol) kill rexes/ eos and spino. i never die against of the apex'. he ain't that bad even if it's not that fast, it can outrun a rex, if it is the right species!
I’ve seen a lot of people say something like this. No hate to you bars mains, maybe you all are just S tier bars players lol. I’ve never had much trouble taking down bars myself, so I’m not convinced. I’d like to test it out in some 1v1 scenarios now
Ano needs a reworck
You mean rework right?
@@Dem1z_ yes
Conc is amazing tho. I’ve killed apexes with it. I defended myself from 2 utahs and 1 kel. Conc has good stam, good damage, good bleed and good in packs
@@Mrmilk8982 this is an officials tier list, so I can’t speak to conc’s modded performance
@@Khanware what are talking about? It’s the vanilla conc I’m talking about
@@Khanware there is no modded conc
@@Mrmilk8982 Not what I meant. I meant conc on modded servers vs modded Dinos. Utahs and kels aren’t on officials.
@@Khanware well Utah and kel are very powerful. And I killed a adult Rex with conc
You’re wrong about thal. I’ve been hunting hatz and quetz and anos as thal… they’re great at that but not much else. The dive bomb does hella damage to flyers!
Yeah they can ram, which I think was an unintended byproduct lol. They are quite good at ramming hatz!
IVE KILLED MANY HATZ WITH THAL!!! I PROTEST!! lol
Thal is the ultimate hatz rammer it’s true lol
@@Khanware Ive personally not been able to kill any by ramming, but ive killed lots pecking their eyes out
@@Khanware Ive personally not been able to kill any by ramming, but ive killed lots pecking their eyes out
the ano should be in A tier cuz ur able to move ano out of their hunker by pushing them as maybe something bigger
Yeah, that’s not intended. I assume it’ll be fixed soon but who knows
It was fixed last patch actually, or was ment to be,( I don't play ano) anos only counter now is sarcos.
That got removed in the most recent patch. Apparently it wasnt intended. Wish it was though, as ano is a menace rn and not being able to knock it out off hunker down kinda just makes it impossible to interact with.
@@Saphira3441 not fixed
Did they patch today? Because I was lifting anos out of hunker with sucho last night lol. So 12 hours ago I can confirm it wasn’t fixed
So is bone break better than face tank or not?
There’s no straight answer. A face tank rex beats a bone break rex in a facetank. A bone break rex has the ability to break/catch prey that get too close, and also has better escapability via bone breaking chasers and taking space. So really just depends on play style/what type of dinos your playing with
@@Khanware
Ok, thx
Poor alioramus
Kentro deserved to be overnerfed.
For me conc IS low A It has op dps 60 per bite and IS Pretty spammable and the bleed IS op and in packs destroys apexes except for Eo and deinoc i mean i killed allos,lambs solo and in packs of 2 rex and suchos u just need to play it right.
I think conc is definitely a little better than Meg, it just loses to most other mid tiers around its size pretty easily unless it escapes to water
@@Khanware most of them use the wrong build to PvP using claws and with that i have Pretty bad turning but if u have balanced claws It turns very very good and u can easily outmaneuver a metri or cera.
@@srconc-ks3mi If you use balanced claws, you lose your main bleeding ability. Then you’re just a worse Cera with lower health.
@@TheBr0seph nuh uh u can use ripping Kick It has same bleed and far more dmg and can be used to brake check and create distance same as achillo.Only downside is that It uses stam but thats It.
@@srconc-ks3mi yeh, but it drains stamina and isn’t a consistent source of damage. Also, conc has 475hp. That alone makes it not worthy of A tier. Cera and Achillo have 600.
I think bars should be a bit stronger, it can annihilate apexes easily, literally today I got ambushed by a fg rex with my sub bars and won
Bars should lose a 1v1 against any other apex currently around handily. That rex must've been very new haha
Hard disagree, Bars can pretty easily 1v1 any apex rn@@Khanware
Not in my experience, I’ve never had much trouble killing them before. Most rex/eo players tend not to play properly and just mash attacks, so I would assume they might lose doing that. If played properly, I don’t think bars would stand a chance. Maybe y’all are just S tier bars players lol
Bars is like a forcefield for any herbivore packs, they are an immediate +100 intimidation factor. It's all about sprinting away so the enemy (apex) will hit your tail, and then smack them in the head, the damage tradeoff is unfair for the enemy
And most mid tiers can't do much, raptors are the biggest threat for a bars though. But if the raptor missteps, bars can one shot latens and deinons with one tail slam, and brutally maim achillos
Sorry I have to disagree with you on Stego's placement. As a Stego main I can't do anything with most raptors and I can't out tank anything with more combat weight. I also can't turn well at all. The stamina sucks and so to does the regen. Not to mention if something gets on the front side of you there is nothing you can do but die. You really need to play more Stego if you think it's a solid choice cause tbh Kentro is better atm than Stego.
You’re a stego main but you don’t know that a wound charge attack hits raptors on both slots and both sides of you? It’s a very easy defense mechanism against raptors and does a ton of damage to them. Kentro was absolutely better than steg before its nerfs, but it isn’t anymore. Steg can kill rexes if you play your distancing right. Also run pivot? Pivot allows you to turn in places extremely quickly after standing still for a few seconds. It’s hard to get openings on a pivot steg. I see a lot of people misplaying on steg frequently. The other thing is while steg’s stamina regen does suck, solar powered can make it quite good during the day, making it regen 50% faster.
@@Khanware I understand that the charge tail swipe can hit raptors but it can't if those raptors are on the front of your stego. Don't believe me test it for yourself. Stego definitely has its upsides but I think the downsides are much more significant than Kentro. I really believe that the Stego needs something in the front to make it good. I do run Pivot also. Just saying that the Stego is still in need of something even if I myself ain't 100% sure myself.
Why does everyone say amarga is op?
I haven’t heard that much, is that what people are saying lol?
@@KhanwareI haven’t heard about it either but I suppose its because of the tail with the plus knockback sub you are a menace i was chased by a spino and 3 anos got bone broke and was able to use my knockback to keep them away to run and by time they killed me there were all low just from my tail and smaller dinos get flung by the tail
Where is parasaurolophus
This is a list of officials dinos. Parasaur isn’t in the game
wrong with spino. spino wins a facetank against rex with lone survivor equipped and tough scutes. It always wins. I know this because I play spino xD
And even if you lose somehow, you can rear ride the hell out of REX
No it doesn't lmao rex has face tank and deep rumble which give it more defense and it hits harder
How can spino be lower than sucho? A spino will destroy a sucho 1v1 90% of the time..
Because sucho is much more well rounded as a semi aquatic. Sucho is really good in both land water and spino sucks on land
Ofc you put Alberta in c tier, you use head slam
I don’t lol, that clip was just me trying it out months ago. Alberta is pretty meh in its current state
Where's theri rank?
This is an officials tier list, as the title says. No modded Dinos in this one
As a 2 year official player and still plying daily I can agree with 90% of this list besides the low pycno rating. Easily destroys conc, meg, metri, kent, and steg. Bars also is interesting it is probably the best apex.
I agree with pycno being able to beat conc, meg, and metri. But no way is a pycno taking down a steg if the steg player is even remotely skilled.
We can 1v1. It takes time.
Spino is solid A tier, it can outturn every apex carnivore and can turn on suchos and some other mid tiers.
Getting a spino behind you is a huge mistake. The only way to get a spino off of you is percise movement and you must pray that your percise turn is good enough.
With rex i think its a solid A tier. Face tank is just amazing and it lets you face tank almost anything, except for attack Eo thats starting the fight with charge.
Overall i mostly agree with this tier list.
It is objectively the slowest apex with a speed of 700. Rex, Deino and Eo have a speed of 800 and the exact same run stamina drain. His base maximun swim speed is also slightly slower than Deino's. It is still a pretty big threat but you definitely shouldn't fight another apex unless you are sure you are skilled enough to kill it or have water nearby
Yeah it’s not a bad aquatic like I said, it’s the ‘semi’ part of that statement that held it in B for me like I said. People are definitely sleeping on rumble/face tank rex with everyone running bone break, it has a solid advantage in apex fights
Ok bruh now your just bullshitting with the bars its really good even after the nerf im always killing spinos and rexes with distance and strategy but it is always vulnerable to raptors it contests with most apexes though even eos just gktta know how to play it right
19:10 what is this logic ?
What do you mean? Keep in mind this tier list was made pre Struth TLC
@@Khanware "Alio kills raptors so hes first Raptor kill Bars so hes 2nd" etc etc ... Bars kills Dasp so hes first.
Makes no sence at all
Also when Bars is D Tier because of his current Kit and nerfs why would be a conc placed C Tier ? Alberta beeing C Tier same as a Conc is straight up nonsense.
@@sircygnusx If bars gets bone broke, it's not killing dasp. Fyi, I was just organizing within the tiers themselves... Notice how I didn't compare the raptors vs dasp, rex, allo, or anything else not from D tier. It's also just a lower tier so they're all pretty similar in terms of ability to make kills, I said in the video that I felt I didn't really need to bother organizing it. Obviously any dino can kill any dino in this game if the skill gap between players is big enough
@@Khanware thats what i mean with logic ... if thats the case you need to compare alio vs bars
you should compare them with the overskill skillsets since a bars can take on alot of dinos even groups but cant deal with bonebreak basicly any dino cant deal with bonebreak ( accept Ano ) thats why Dasp is meta rn ...
If you put sarco anywhere above c tier you clearly havent played him yet
You have pretty poor judgement my friend. I’d be keen to see your sarco build if you think it’s C tier
@@Khanware either way it has 450 hp💀
@@beam8596 Point? There’s a lot more at play here than just hp. You can’t just focus in on one aspect to give a low grade. They’re like glass cannons, they can hit extremely hard. Default bite has insane dps for defending against other semis. A good sarco player can pose a very big threat
Ceratos destroy Achilles
Cerato’s have a slight advantage, but a good achillo player can still beat ceratos. I’ve played a ton of both and they both have different strong suits
meg is a good dino just alot of bad player play it and dont know how to use it
i would put metri in a tier it is almost undefeated in its weight class and only a realy good cerato or achilo can take them out reliably
Metri is s tier for me cuz It has 2 health bars and is the best tail rider in the game, I’ve killed allos, ceras, hatz, concs, megs and more also good raptor killers
Metri is a free kill on everything you listed besides concs and megs debatably. But then again bleed blocks healing so conc may stand a chance. Metri’s stam is average and its damage is terrible. If a cera or allo is losing to a metri then they’re either afk or on mobile.
@@fuzzman02 I’ve killed all of those without needing to heal so bleed didn’t mean anything and maybe ur metri is a free kill but not mine
@@MicahBellEdits like I said, those must have been terrible players then. I’ve killed countless metris on cerato, they are not a real threat no matter what you’re on.
@@fuzzman02 well they were pretty average to me, I never find terrible players I’m not lucky like that 😭 yk maybe I’m just better then any metri u have ever come across
@@MicahBellEdits it’s certainly possible, you may be a really good metri player. No hate, just sharing my experience of the game. Any dino can theoretically beat another with enough of a skill difference between them. I am just saying that for the average player, metri isn’t very good.
First.
Man, folks sleep on Rhamp.
Additionally, the...
"It DoEsN't Do DaMaGe." Mindset is like a plague.
Anyone, and I mean anyone who has been a server that has the Compy mod will 100% understand why Rhamp (and I'm 99% sure Microraptor will have the same fate) doesn't do damage.
For those who have played on servers that have compys.
Imagine if the Compy could fly.
Yeah....hell no!
Ramph definitely isn't useless, in terms of the context of this tier list it pretty much is though. There are some other comments just like yours about ramph, to which I have said: Fair points! But I did say the list was viewed through the lens of actual combat, so that's why I automatically disqualified it. Ramph does have some cool and useful support abilities, it just has no direct way to make kills.
@@Khanware
Oh yeah you're good man.
My comment was more of a: "FYI" for folks who label Rhamp as useless purely because it doesn't deal DPS.
I played on a community server that had Compies and *shudders*...
People have no idea how bad Rhamp (and Micro) would be if it could attack.
I won't lie...
I did have fun leading an army of Compies against Allos, Rexs, and etc.
But for after awhile I was like: "This feels like harassment/Griefing." so we stopped our Compy Army.
allo is a (A even an S) dino you just have learn how to play it and you need skill
Disagree because it gets absolutely destroyed by things like sucho, and if it gets bone broke by dasp it loses 1v1 to dasp, and it has a really hard time punching up. It’s not bad, just not higher than B tier material imo. The dinos in A or higher do a good job fighting against things of all sizes, part of the reason I ranked them there
Bars beats any apex in a 1v1 except Spino
I’m not convinced! I’d love to get some people who know what they’re doing with bars and test it
@@Khanware Im fairly good with Bars and I would gladly show you the true strength of Bars
@@Khanwarei'm also a bars main and i'd love to try it cause in many szenerious i can't do a 1v1 against apex but if i manage to do one, i often win!
I do weekly Friday PvP livestreams (official servers), maybe we could arrange some tests on a Friday stream at some point! I’d be happy to try it out vs things like eo or rex, just objectively curious now
I gotta disagree with a few, meg needs to be one tier higher, it easily dominates achillos, even a group of achillos dont scare me that much unless im on a large apex and they’re running cruel swipe/shred. Conc needs to go down to D tier, it’s just terrible now, a conc struggles to fight just about everything even raptors. The laten deserves to be in C or b because a pack of raptors can practically pounce and kill anything on land.
I still rest my case with achillo. Achillo should never, ever lose a 1v1 to a meg if it has the right kit. I’ve 1v1’d up to 1v3 or 4’d megs and come out on top as achillo. It’s got a kit built around being a hard counter to any Meg too far from water. Conc in its current state is very similar to Meg, except it does bleed instead of venom which is currently more useful. Conc also does very strong bleed in groups, especially when paired with ramph
@@Khanwaremust have been some newbies on megs, cause i have yet to see a lone achillo come out on top against any meg💀 Also, I know bleed is very useful but it isn’t enough to save how bad conc is, it’s just too weak on it’s own I’d put my money on an alio than a conc, that’s how bad conc is. The damage isn’t that good and the health and speed is terrible. Especially a water build conc. Maybe you’re thinking it’s good if it’s running all for one is saving it, and I guess, but that is a big if it has multiple mid-tiers giving it a boost.
@@Empathyandappathy I’ve fought countless megs on achillo. Seen a wide range of good and bad players lose. I do PvP livestreams on officials every Friday, happy to prove it to you in a 1v1 if you’d like. Achillo is really solid and people underestimate it.
Edit: I’m not saying conc is good, that’s why I ranked it low. I just don’t think Meg is good either
@@EmpathyandappathyNever seen an Achillo even come close to losing to a Meg. Achillo is my go to if I see a group of megs, nothing easier to beat them on. Achillo can easily win a 1v1 with a good meg player. It can also mop the floor with average megs, it easily takes a 1v4 if the megs are average players.
@@fuzzman02you must be playing on a community server 💀
Rex doesn’t lose a 1v1 to anything
No clue what kinda players you’re fighting but I’ve lost track of the amount of rexes I’ve soloed on many different dinos
@@Khanware crouch and hold alt and u won’t lose to anything. Lmao what players are u fighting
I’ve beat players doing that lol… I even talk about how to in my achillo combat guide. How long you been playing
Lol Rex is one of the easiest kills in the game on practically any dino
@@Khanware it’s call go to a rock and when u jump off u stuck between the rock and the Rex.
Megalania is a beast right now wtf, it can 1v1 eotrike and rex relatively reliably, and can escape from almost anything except other megs
Pretty much every smaller mid tier in the game is better at 1v1ing apexes than meg right now. The only thing meg has going for it right now is it's heavy bite and water escapability. Achillo, cerato, styra, and even conc can beat it at everything else. Obviously meg is still viable, just better options out there at the moment
@@Khanware personally i’d take achillo off of that comparison as achillo is not as good against other smalls as megalania is. I think megalania’s benefit is the fact that it is just as good agains other smalls as it is against apexes, the only other really comparable dino is conc who functions almost identically to meg except it has bleed instead of venom
@@AgentMercer I play a lot of achillo, it's one of the best picks for attacking most other mid tiers and is also insane against apexes. Conc is inherently better than meg because bleed is so much better than venom; venom is useless in its current state. Not hating on meg mains, play whatever you have fun with, it's just not a super strong mid tier at the moment
Meg is like the worst mid tier. They’re extremely weak in every way, heavy bite is all they got. There’s a reason they’re known for being baby killers, they lose to anything adult.
@@Khanware No it can’t, had two concs fight one meg and get obliterated, it took them three waystones to finally be able to kill it, concs are slow in the water, and cant dish out the same damage as a meg face tanking. “Oh well a good conc player’s bleed and turn radius can beat meg” no it can’t that’s why i only ever see a solo conc once in a while and never wants to fight unless it’s part of a group. Conc is just bad. I know venom does suck and it is one of the reasons meg isn’t perfect, but it should be a low b-tier easily
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