I spent two hours last night on YT trying to make these points. It’s terrible that the British press has tried to drive a wedge between Squaddies and Nigerians.
I understood what the first lady said, and I'm American. She was not insulting Meghan. People who believe she was in on a "Willy Lynch" spiral. Turning your own people against each other because they believe what they hear; not facts.
lol. She called Meghan out by name. She made it clear she was not at all impressed by Meghan’s dress code in Nigeria. Nobody dresses like that to any school. It was insulting. She also said ‘why did she come to Africa?’ Or words similar. First Lady knows she is not 43% Nigerian. It’s a mathematical impossibility for starters,. Her mother is not 43% Nigerian, her father is white. So it’s not a possibility. Notice she’s forgotten the Maltese claim, although that’s also a lie because her Irish ancestors made a home in Malta and then moved to England. So no Maltese blood! First Lady would not meet Meghan and Harry because they were invited by the Defence ministry who had planned a coup earlier. She knows they are not part of the Royal Family, they are no longer royal. They also associated with wanted criminals in the US. Not a good look. What the First Lady said was very clear and if you want it twisted then perhaps your comprehension skills are not as they should be. I agree with the First Lady, Nigerian women are beautiful they don’t need to dress or use Meghan as a mentor as they are well above her in every way. None of us do. We should not have proven liars as someone to look up to.
@whoseturnisit9733 When people like confusion an is blind by bitterness and hate they miss what is really said....she use Megan as an example that came to Nigeria to learn from them...bashing Megan and Harry wouldn't stop their destiny but hate destroys the soul
I think her words were taken out of context. People need to listen to the entire message and not just part of it. Please people don’t distract from the great time of the Sussex’s in Nigeria.
Absolutely! If the Sussexes are going to travel the world to other people's cultures, they have to do their homework. That is not too much to ask. What I like about Meghan is that even though her first pink dress was not appropriate for the culture, the women spoke to her and she adjusted. What is wrong with that? Some Squaddies are becoming irrational. People of the world are not going to adjust their cultures to suit the sensitive egos of some Squaddies.
Tell her and her husband (Mr. President) with the fake degrees to shut up... Women and men are being kidnaped left and right and she is worried about nonsense.
I listened to the Nigerian FL speech several times. What did I interpet? An expression of personal disdain for the Nigerian youth's dressing that she connected to stars from America, referencing the Met Gala. With all respect to the FL, why all of this on the back of American culture? Are there any social issues in Nigeria that lends to the youth's mindset? She of all people knows the historical knowledge as to why many blacks in America don't know about African culture. While I understand your Nigerian perspective, Weezy, no one is above reproach because of their status and this includes both, the FL of Nigeria and the Sussex's. Ultimately, does the FL believe that Americans are responsible for instilling culture pride in their youth? As an example, I often wonder why the African youth want to lighten their beautiful skin, five shades? Overall, there is much to be learned, however, to put the mishaps on American culture is very much a stretch. I suspect the FL could be dealing with some personal, culture shame because of her daughter's career choice and we became the backlash. As a FL, she has the responsibility of using her words wisely. Has she used her past platform to address her concerns about the youth? If not, why now, after the Sussex's visit?
This a great point of view however as I said multiple times during the course of the livestream, this was an event celebrating one year in office organised by the mothers of the nation. She did not disparage Meghan in anyway shape or form. You can still question why women bleach their skins of course you can. That would be useful ammunition if you were being attacked but the First Lady has not attacked you or Meghan so this is outside of the point. But thank you for your comment.
I agree why now? I suspect rf had something to do with it and the president n fl brown nose them. No offense to anyone but in the Nigerian culture of Yoruba they honor Oshun the goddess of sexuality n seduction plus for many centuries some African countries the woman are either half naked with their breast showing so please don't blame America for women around the world dressing seductively
@@Weezy39 I did not say that she disparaged Meghan. I'm honestly wanting to understand why Americans are to blame for the youth's behavior. As a black, American woman, I respect your FL. I simply would have preferred to hear her discuss how to reach out and connect with black, American families to aid in their discovery of their African culture. Actually, I think the skin bleaching is fair game if we are speaking in terms of influence, as your FL clearly feels such about American film stars. Thank you.
@@gugah6895 Speaking about her referencing American culture, the reference to American culture as being to blame for influencing Nigerian culture negatively, it is because for the most part, America is the country that the highest number of Nigerians migrate to and then import the American culture to Nigeria. Also, the entertainment world tends to want to mirror the American entertainment world, this is why most of our musicians, actors and comedians go to America in search of better opportunities. But the American culture they bring back to Nigeria is not compatible with Nigerian culture e.g the naked dressing.
I agree with you Isabella, she was not accusing Meghan. She was pointing out how good Nigerian culture is, that even an actress from America came to learn about the culture. The haters are twisting her words to their own agenda. One of Meghan's main haters played the same sound bite you did and cackled it was shade when it wasn't.
I completely agree with you. There are cultural expectations that you learn each time you visit. Muslim countries are very strict for example. Derangers are loving our fighting amongst ourselves.
I agree 👍 why now mention dressing influence while using Meghan name knowing that the dirty British media would continue to attack Meghan after so many years. Why now right after Sussex visit? It's very suspicious to me how come she never mentioned that some women in Yoruba Orisha faith dressed half naked before America or Hollywood was formed? The Yoruba honor Oshun the goddess of sexuality n love before Muslim or colonists invaded Nigeria Rf are behind the brown nosing fl statement
I personally think it's time to leave this alone, the first lady must be feeling bad after all this misunderstanding, we all love Nigeria and it's wonderful people, love wins.❤❤❤❤
I can't believe how this conversation is going round and round in circles. She didn't have to mention Meghan's name, whichever way we choose to look at it.
I disagree with you. We should not be prepared to attack a person because they mentioned Meghan's name and the mention of Meghan's name was used by the British Media to cause an uproar. In other words, you are saying that no one has the permission to mention Meghan's name in public. Do you know how that sounds! The FL is not the problem, the problem is the people who have twisted the words of the FL who welcomed Meghan with open arms and literally gave Meghan the best the country has to offer and more. Having opened her arms to Meghan, then you tell the first lady of the country, (she is not the village chiefs wife you know. She is the first lady of a country, that is the wife of the president of a country with 36 states,) that she cannot mention Meghans name. No, that's not ok. Lets agree to disagree. The conversation can end then.
@@Weezy39 No one ever said they don't have the right to mention Meghan's name in public. We all know her name has been mentioned all over the place, mostly in negativity and dishonesty. This so called queen did the same thing no matter how you slice it or twist it. It was soo wrong! She was inappropriate and petty. The excuse that that's how Nigerians talk is unacceptable. I've met a few Nigerians and they were not like that. No excuses for her behavior.
I totally agree with you. It was very clear to me that the First Lady of Nigeria was using Duchess Meghan as an example as to why some people want to know about their roots. As an African American Meghan’s visit made me order a genealogy kit to find out about my roots. I understood the First Lady perfectly well. I am so glad to you trying to clarify it. It is frustrating that this is an issue. Stand your ground. Thank you
I’m an American, and I agree that the 1st Lady DID NOT insult Meghan. Like many, we search our roots in African cultural. BM is twisting this-don’t bite!
This was set up by the deranges and British press and they are reporting it as scandal on Meghan. Squad should delete first lazy child picture posted for bad purposes
Actually, First lady of Nigeria does not need to clarify anything. She said what she said and Duchess Meghan does what she does! Storms do pass! Carry on! GOD speed to all!👍🏼🙏🏼👍🏼😊
The 'why did Meghan come to Nigeria 'is what is causing the trouble.The first lady needs to be careful when she is making a speech and do not leave room for doubt.It is clear English is not her first language she needs to get her words and context right.The media will have a field day with this.
This how Nigerians speak to ask someone not to speak like themselves or to be more American in their expression is a denial of their right to express themselves. Her meaning was crystal clear for those who want to get it.
@@Weezy39 If the meaning of the culture is to be rude and disrespectful then I want no part of it. No matter how some want to twist it in her favor her comment with Meghan name and her culture is her mouth was disrespectful. Nigerian culture is far from perfect, Now the UK press is having a field day with this because of her ignorant comments.
I believe that Meghan has changed the way she dresses because CopyKatie can’t wear these clothes when she goes out. H&M 💘don’t need a bunch of yes people around like the BRF/Cult. We can’t go into someone’s home & go against them. That works both ways. WE DON’t WANT THE DERANGERS TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER THE SQUAD. People have gone to African countries & imposed their culture on them for hundreds of years. We need to all function & be diplomatic as NATO does because Squad members are Allies. There is strength in numbers. H&M 💘 are trying to pave the way for Archie and Lilibet as much as possible. Praying 🙏🏽 we can agree to disagree.
You always have a balanced view. I agree with the part when you said that Meghan changed the way she dresses because CopyKatie could not wear those clothes. I thought the same when I saw the switch as well. We will overcome this, it's just teething pains, that is the reason why I have been so patiently followed this topic up without getting frustrated because I understood that people have an emotional reaction to all things Harry and Meghan and I often do as well dig my feet into the sand when it comes to them. This has been interesting to say the least to be on the other side but i expected it when the conversation began. But I just cannot abide a sycophant, this also meant, I cannot be that myself.
@@Weezy39Thanks! I am a 77 year old African-American and have changed my opinions when I looked deeper into a situation. When Obama was President, he surrounded himself with people that help to make him successful & not YES people. Harry is a born & bread diplomat & one of Meghan’s degree is international relations. They will be Okay!
Hi Isabella. I just found your replay.👏 I heard the umpteenth time you played the Nigerian First Lady's talk and I recalled something. As an African American years ago, I visited Kenya, Tanzania & Uganda, East Africa and Ghana, West Africa the next year. I noticed very different speech patterns. The Africans spoke straight, to the point, without embellishment. While this might offend Americans, it is just what it is. So when Sussex Squaddies are offended, arguing over how people in different countries speak, it's a waste of time and energy. Take care.💖💖
I'm sorry, but you're the first lady didn't Google why Harry and Meghan were there in Nigeria. The chief of arm forces invited them because of the Invictus games and nothing more.
Squatty need to be very careful. Everyone don’t have agree with each. But you don’t have to attack people when they don’t agree with you. That’s why I left some of the sussex channel’s.
My apologies… under your live I made comments about the First Lady judging Meghan. I had to go back to the clip, she actually complimented her by saying why do you think Meghan comes to look here in Africa?????? The answer was Nigérian knows who they are, we dressed a certain way, we don’t have to imitate the Americans, this is not the met gala. But it’s still a snub for the American, it’s like saying they are uncultured. So we are going back to the continent to find our roots. Leave the Caucasian with their own backward thinking etc…
Well we’ll the British media has achieved what they wanted discord among supporters of the Sussex squad.Angela Levine said Meghcwas disrespectful with her dress . Sad the bait was taken.
But it is the squaddies who are taking the FL comments out of context thereby causing the conflict. I cant stay quiet and agree with you just because you all are bigger in number. This is why o took the time to explain the nuance of what played out in Nigeria.
When i listen to her tone i understand now where you are coming from.Actually she was complimenting Meghan for coming to Nigeria..But her delivery was poor .
I don't think it is appropriate to say that her delivery was poor, you might not expect her to say things the way she said as a Nigerian, but she cannot speak as anything else other than a Nigerian. Just like no one expects an American to speak as a Nigerian. So no, her delivery was not poor, especially as all she said was, Meghan came home to discover her beautiful Nigerian ancestry which the Nigeria girls are sweeping aside to emulate western culture.
Hello Weezy. A very enlightening conversation. Thanks for giving all sides a voice and encouraging respectful dialog. Blessing sister and congrats on the nearly 4K subscribers. You are gracious host.
Some people felt like should have dressed the was fine. If she had gone to an Arab country she would have differently. Nothing is wrong with following the visiting country traditions. SS please stop the hate for the first lady.
I agreed with you about what the First Lady she was not talking badly about Meghan in her speech. I am American and let’s be honest our older generation say the same about how the younger generation and the way they dress ie( stomachs out and but checks showing). What is acceptable in New York, California would be looked at sideways in say Indiana, Kentucky and some of the more conservative states
She just added to her wounds . Imagine in her words, "people who don't know their root" . I mean, is quite absurb and heartbreaking. We cannot continue like this.Is an insult to all of us and all descendants of slavery.
THANK YOU, WEEZY, SO MUCH FOR CLARIFYING THE SPEECH! IT WAS SO IMPORTANT AND ESSENTIAL! Otherwise, the British RF and their Rotors would have gained their false narrative to prevail.
Thank you Weezy for another enjoyable podcast as always. It was a delight to hear you explaining what the first lady said sometimes you have to agree to disagree 🙏😘❤️❤️
The 1st lady should have been more cautious with her words as a state representative. If American that were sold to the Us during the transatlantic slave-trade, they were sold by the black people on the continent. So she should apologise to these slaves descendants having sold them instead of blaming them.
I disagree. Yes, there were blacks who sold their own, but the majority were white slavers who abducted black people off their land. It’s heartbreaking for the abducted blacks to lose their freedom, their family and friends, their culture and history. In turn, their own family wondering where they had gone to and grieving for them.
The first lady's speech was not very well formulated that's why? Somewhere in her speech she mentioned something about DNA also. I understand what you're trying to say, but I suggest she gets a speechwriter from now on.
@@erniecool4603 I disagree with you the first lady statement was clear. She was referencing those who come home to experience the beautiful Nigerian culture just like Meghan.
@@Weezy39 okay, we don't have to be divided. However her speech wasn't concluded well at all. She ended her speech with Meghan's as an example, and that's what prompted this whole hoopla so to speak!
Frankly, my love, i disagree, she simply stated that she did not want our young ladies to dress the way the american actresses dressed with the naked dressing when they attend their industry events because it is not our culture. There was absolutely nothing wrong with what she said.
Her speech was in poor taste. She had an American guest in her country and she took the opportunity to throw shade at The Met Gala and American culture. I don't care if she is first lady. That was soo unnecessary We all know of slavery. We all know we don't know the culture, that is why they go to learn.not to be met with disrespect and inappropriate remarks about our country. She said we don't know African culture but she shouldn't speak negatively like she knows our culture either, What she said was disrespectful to Americans,
Hello, my love. This was not at an event with Meghan or when Meghan was in Nigeria, this was an event that took place yesterday. Further, she was not discussing Meghan's dressing. And her comments about Black American's not knowing African culture was not disrespectful, it's just facts. She was speaking to the youths in Nigeria not to emulate the naked dressing they see in the Met gala in America, advising them to be respectful of Nigerian culture because Nigerian culture does not accept naked dressing. Her speech was not in poor taste when you take the time to understand exactly what she was saying. I recommend that you watch the video in full. The link is in my description box of my latest livestream.
@@Weezy39 But she still referenced Meghan in her speech while dissing American culture. What if Meghan came there with respect. Meghan never made negative remarks about her culture whatsoever. That was unnecessary and uncalled for and was wrong on any level.
@@mayrav1155 Exactly! Why insult another culture to get your point across. Meghan didn't come there looking for Nigeria. She was a guest paying homage to her ancestry.. That's all.
I don't understand the problem with the First Lady's speech. I completely understand what she said about the culture and why those that live there should basically teach the young people coming up how to present themselves. Princess Meghan was used as an example pointing out that she "Gets it," she knows who she is. Squads, don't be like the rota and derangers want. I did not have to listen to the entire speech and get what was said just by listening to the sound bite. If you understand how the different culture say certain words this would not be an issue.
@Weezy: Great explanation & commentary on this subject. I enjoy your international perspective 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💓💓💓💓 As a Black American who has not done a genealogy test, I don't know where I come from (in Africa) either so I did not find the first lady's comments offensive at all.
This young lady must be made her parents made in this risqué outfits 😅😅😅. She seems to be saying Meghan came to find her cultural roots. That is why Meghan when to Nigeria. People let rest.
Isabella you were on fire today I enjoyed how you stood your ground. And you could find levity In the debate. Over the past 20hours I've observed a few spaces were there's no room to debate and that's sad. I'm ride or dead with H&M but I don't get upset at every word of negative opinion I just disagree and keep it moving. I'm noticing more and more Squaddies or taking ownership over the Sussexes. They are their own persons individually we share a love and fight for them but should never fight each other. I hate being told how I should react to something. More and more squaddies are displaying aggression towards our own because we disagree on something. Today you asked several times go back and listen to what the first lady said, but all you receive d was push back not once did anyone say ok I'll listen again. We all sit on pins and needles because we see how Meghan has to fight for just being treated fairly.. But some of us need to get over ourselves. We know Meghan is typically inappropriate dressed. And so does the first lady. In short she meant young lady's of Nigeria don't mimic the women of American when we have a rich and beautiful culture to be proud of. Why do you think someone like Meghan came to Africa to find her Nigerian roots be proud.
I have to correct an error. I meant we know Meghan is normally appropriately dressed and the first lady knew that as well. P.S. remember detainees are going to derange. The UK media is hungry because That Family doesn't have food for them. And the Sussex as locked them out of the house. They hungry and we eat on any Sussex scraps. Stay blessed.
Naked dressing - in reality, I don't believe any culture, any nation welcomes that naked dressing. That is not beautiful, not comfortable, not warm enough and not attractive. IT IS ONLY FOR THE SHOW.
@@mayrav1155 Of course, it's my opinion and feel very free to disagree. But my points are very valid, cos I'm living in a cold climate, where you cannot survive without proper clothes. So you yourself must also stand other people's opinions!
Nope she didnot. She merely stated that Nigerias culture was beautiful and that the young people should stop emulating naked dressing from the west ruining the dressing cultures . She said the culture was so beautiful that people are coming back home to experience it including Meghan, she insinuated nothing more than what she actually expressed.
I don't particularly like Tinubu or his wife, but I think you were very fair in your opinion. I watched the clip with my mother ( an Isoko woman) and after seeing the pics of Tinubu's daughter she said the First Lady was likely thinking of her own daughter. Meghan was just an illustration of people from abroad seeing the value in Nigeria that many of us Nigerians don't. It was not an insult. We need to be wise about picking our battles.
Thank you Isabell I understand now understanding different cultures is very important. I just think the squaddies have been traumatized by the mistreatment of Megan.
I agree. But we must get onto the path road to healing otherwise we risk losing everything we fought to gain by pushing would be allies away. Thank you so much for taking the time to work through your understanding of this issue. So proud of you.
Now, you are making excuses for her duaghter? Why would the daughter of the 1st lady be modeling when she's not required to do so? Please, I don't believe what you are saying...she said Meghan came looking for herself. It was uncalled for. Respectfully, she's not stupid? She knew exactly what she was saying. She mentioned film. Met Gala. Nakedness. Meghan. Sorry, You are spinning. It is not working. It is not a knee-jerk reaction. That is insulting to any logically thinking adult. If she didn't mention Meghan, no one will be paying attention to her comments. Sorry. I've see a handful of Nigerians saying what I have articulated.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. The First Lady made a calculated decision to bring Meghan, film actress, MET gala..'why did Meghan come here looking for Africa?'....if she meant no harm, that was her moment to say Meghan was invited here and has the opportunity to learn about her culture...instead of leaving that part hanging. Pretty much saying Nigerians are fashionable, knows who we are....shade.
No she didnot, just because we have witnessed this behaviour from the British Media in the past does not mean that it will be the same for everyone. The FL said nothing wrong about Meghan. The only thing she has said is that, Nigerian culture is beautiful and even Meghan came home to experience it.
Isabella Banks, thank you. The operative word here is CULTURE. I take no offense to the First Lady of Nigeria words, because she was speaking from a perspective of her country’s dominant ways of living, attitudes, behaviors, fashions, etc., - as it relates to a group of Nigerian woman - her people. Her comparison of her country’s fashion to - for instance America’s liberal sense of fashion - enlightens. This is a big world 🌎 and we are not all monolithic. In some cultures, I may be expected to take off my shoes, wear a scarf, cover my body, kneel, bow, eat with my fingers, avoid eye contact, etc. My tendency would be to respect the host or stay away. I also take no offense in The First Lady mentioning Meghan’s name, because Meghan it seems was indeed excited to go to “The Mother Land” and discover the Nigerian culture; this discovery I think would be an exciting, interesting teachable experience for Meghan or any of us in a foreign land. The First Lady does not need to explain herself or apologize for anything she said; she said what she had to say - DONE. The toxic media, derangers, disrupters, etc., can cook their pot of malice - like they usually do - but I certainly don’t have to digest their crap. I appreciate the work Harry and Meghan do around the world. I appreciate the hospitality Nigeria exhibited towards The Sussex’s, and as a squaddie, I will NOT allow any negativity concerning this matter to create a DIVIDE AND CONQUER tactic that redirects my focus from goodness to foolishness. This is what the haters want, but “the devil is a liar!” 🥰🙏🏾🇺🇸🇳🇬
Amen to that! The devil is a liar! He wants to isolate the sussexes from support! This was a hugely teachable experience for me and I am sure it would be a teachable experience for most Nigerians like myself who have been fighting for their lives since the day broke today.
@@Weezy39 We must keep our eyes on the prize and choose our battles. This too will pass - especially if Meghan changes her hairstyle or Harry shaves off all of his hair! 😆Conserve your energy! I’m happy to have discovered your channel. Thank you again for your work. 🥰
Interestingly, the First Lady is dressed in a white dress...as did Meghan... I don't believe, somebody told Meghan in Nigeria to use more colours in her clothes. Instead, Meghan had packed more colourful clothes in her suitcases planned to be used in that order.
Meghan herself said, she got the memo to wear more colour. She didn’t say how she got the memo, but I think it was mostly her own observation having packed several options of outfits and then deciding to wear colours and fits that matched the fits of the people Of the country.
@@Weezy39 i see, she got the memo...ok there. Also, as you said, the First Lady did not mention Meghan's dressing, which I'm very glad and satisfied with. It was about one's roots🤗
The First Lady could ve made that speech without mentioning Meghan cos we all know that Meghan has been going thru alot .now ppl re dragging her daughter,Nigerians always want to act righteous on ppls life style and we keep traveling out to this same countries why .
Yes, but why is she not allowed the freedom to mention Meghan name? Surely we can see that the problem here is not the FL but those who twisted the news. In that case, may be we should be telling Meghan to stay home if you are going to take peoples freedom of speech away because Meghan visited them.
I understand because Diana would do her research and dress according to the country. But the speech signals out that American, Movie stars, and Meghan name .
As repeatedly stated the FL speech didnot reference Meghan in the way that she criticised Meghan, she admonished young girls to not emulate naked dressing because naked dressing is not African culture. She said people come from all over to experience African culture, like Meghan who just left Nigeria, so why are you sad?
The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
I disagree entirely. All she said in her reference to Meghan was Meghan came to Nigeria to discover her roots and to experience the rich Nigerian culture that she is encouraging the girls to preserve.
@@Judyri Actually, that is incorrect and I could not disagree with you more. The FL only referenced Meghan as one who has come to Nigeria to experience her Nigerian heritage which she was urging the young ladies in the audience to preserve. You are understanding that way because you are listening to what she said through the filter of American lingo and references. But anyway, we shall agree to disagree.
@@Judyri The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation. But I agree to disagree with you.
I understand that this controversy was created by the derangers. The FL did not address Meghan's clothing. Meghan's name was used to emphasize people that come to Africa seeking for their roots because african culture is beautiful. It is important not to react based on someone's opinion of something. We need to listen directly from the source, with open mind, to make your own judgment. For me, it looks like people are spending too much time surrounded by negativity and because of that are too sensitive to the point that everything is seen in a negative light. Let's not fall for this trap. Let's be more responsible with our actions, our opinions and our attitudes.
The first lady did not talk to Meghan, so she doesn't know whether Meghan went to Nigerian for reasons other than their work with the Invictus Games and the Archewell Foundation.
That is incorrect the First Lady would have been briefed to the reason for meghans visit. She didnot reference Meghans visit in a negative way. She only said , nigerias culture is very rich and that people come home to experience it including Meghan.
@@Weezy39 I didn't say there was no official briefing. Obviously the defense minister told the FL the reason why he invited the Sussexes; but Meghan's acceptance of the invitation doesn't mean she went to Nigerian in search of a better culture because she thought her own was not worth emulating. That is the message your FL conveyed in her statement. I have read between the lines. Thanks for the heart.
The bottom line is the 1st lady could've made her point WITHOUT INSERTING Meghan's name along with "American actress + Met Gala" in the CONTEXT of her statement about a DRESS CODE considering the outfits Meghan wore while in Nigeria!. It was very unwise, insensitive, naive, and hurtful to many who heard what they heard her saying. She should've known better; she should've considered how her words would fall on people around the world who don't share her point of view concerning attire; especially in this era of social media where words are left up to individual interpretation. She can say whatever she believes and practices, she needs to keep Meghan's name out of her mouth!
That's because you are listening to it as an American. Listening to it as a Nigerian and now explaining it to you as a Nigerian should have squashed any misunderstandings. She did not reference Meghan's dressing but rather referenced Meghan as someone who came to Nigeria to experience her Nigerian culture. There is no reason for her to be bullied out of speaking Meghan's name.
The FL was speaking to her own people in her own country. Just because she mentioned Meghan's name (in a good way to my ears) doesn't mean we can pile on the woman and her daughter.
@@Weezy39 Notice closely the FIRESTORM of upsets and commentaries the 1st lady's comment has created from different corners of the world on social media platforms. As a politician, she should know that every word from her mouth matters and will be interpreted by the hearers in light of their lived experiences, not hers. Do better!
@@carmensplacebeauty You're welcome to speak for yourself from your perspective. Allow that same space for others to feel how they feel and express openly that feeling.
Why now? Why this particular time? So frustrating after all this young woman has been through. This is not about nuance. Nuance is calling her and speaking to her not name associating.
Half of these commentators could be derangers, trying to spread confusion and dissent. That is what the derangers do. So we need to stand strong. Sorry, Isabella , I believe you were talking to a bunch of derangers. I believe what you said was true, and Meghan was well dressed. The derangers are trying to gang up on you.
Thank you so much for what you said. Quite unfortunate but it's not just the derangers, it's also squaddies. Whilst this controversy raged, I went on to another sussex friendly podcast to listen to what they had to say about this subject matter and I was quite shocked to hear things like, the FL is uneducated, didn't explain herself properly, must have been paid by the royal family, was jealous of Meghan, was jealous that she was not part of the ceremony, was jealous that the Kings came to Meghan, said what she said because she wants a state visit. I laughed in distress like someone who floated outside of their body and was watching themselves being violated! The disrespect for the FL, the disrespect for Nigeria, the ignorance, the lack of understanding and the unwillingness to make room for the phenomenon called language interference or cross linguistic interference was astounding to me especially as the behaviour I was witnessing was the same behaviour that Meghan was confronted with during her time in the UK which we stay dragging the royal rota and derangers for to date. For those who have not come across Language interference or cross-linguistic interference before. Language interference or cross-linguistic interference occurs when a person's speech is influenced by the structures, vocabulary, and idiomatic expressions of their native language or cultural environment, which can lead to misunderstandings even when they are speaking a universal language like English. Certain things became clear to me in course of this discussion. I am glad for it though as it expanded my horizon and made me less naïve of the landscape in which I am walking. I am making adjustments as we speak. It is well!
@Weezy39 I suspect that some of those squaddies are derangers pretending to be squaddies. Others are too trusting and too quick to follow others who bad mouth people. As soon as I see disrespect and hateful speech, I start to suspect. What a shame. It's so hard to deal with. You dealt with it so much better than I could. Great job. 👍 👍👍
I think Meghan dressed appropriately for the weather (103 degrees) and for the occasions. I for one would be extremely uncomfortable in the layers and styles the officers wife's were wearing. I think Meghan's style of dress remained the same, cool and comfortable, through out her successful visit.
That's not the point though. The FL never criticised Meghan's dressing, she was addressing the young ladies and advising them to stop following the naked trend, to preserve our dressing culture, She was saying that our culture is so good that many people want to come back to investigate their culture for example Meghan.
You have to choose your words carefully and listen carefully and take wisdom from the words as well. We cannot leave any room for interpretation for the ones always looking to create drama and division . Meghan is American she dresses to suit her taste , I don’t think her dress was naked personally but some will disagree if she would have worn the traditional African style of dress on her visit she would have been criticized and called fake or something . African and African Americans need to support each other. We have few real friends anything that divides us the others use against us. I must say as an American that I agree with her I regards to some of the dress in our culture that pushes the line of nakedness and does not give any hint of modesty or self respect we as a people may realize where we need to improve instead of arguing about everything.
@@gigiinspired780 The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
First lady is human to make a mistake but the most important thing is acknowledging a mistake has been done and to apologise to whoever might be offended.
A mistake would be apologised for if a mistake has been made. The FL did absolutely nothing wrong by referring to Meghan one of those who has come home to discover her roots.
I find this whole reaction to the First Lady speech ridiculous.. I listen to the speech 3 times and understand what she said. Some squaddies are interpreting and twisting the First Lady’s speech the way the UK tabloids twist every thing about Meghan. Are they doing this intentionally? I hope not. We don’t need to go down the UK tabloid’s rabbit hole. We are better than that. Isabella, you have the patience of Job in trying to make them see reason… Keep up the good work. I love your channel…👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
Thank you. I don’t feel as good today as the larger implications of the squaddies twisting the FL words out of context and their resulting demands sinks in today.
The first lady's speech was in poor taste, definitely unnecessary. Sounds like someone got to her(told her what to say). I wouldn't be surprised if it was King Charles or his representatives. I guarantee whoever it was has dirt on the First lady.
@Weezy39 I respectfully disagree. It's disingenuous for people to tell others we didn't hear what she clearly stated. What does Meghan 's attire, the MET gala, and nakedness have to do with political concerns in Nigeria ?
@@Wonderfulblizz I also respectfully disagree, she never mentioned anything about Meghan's dressing. She merely stated that Nigerias culture was beautiful and that the young people should stop emulating naked dressing from the west ruining the dressing cultures . She said the culture was so beautiful that people are coming back home to experience it including Meghan, she insinuated nothing more than what she actually expressed. I am sure that we can agree to disagree. Reply
FYI. What I think the discussion devolved into is how Black Americans felt about anyone saying Afro Americans don’t have culture. I say this because I live in Northern California and many Africans got educated at the University of California and tended to come off that they are superior/arrogant. I believe maybe many Africans don’t understand that. It took a while before I understood how Americans felt about the First Lady’s comments and that seems to be more the problem. Because of the use of the English language, I see how the miscommunication unfolded. I do understand both sides although I don’t think the First Lady slighted Meghan. Although I do think that Africans don’t seem to understand that Afro Americans DO have a culture, albeit not deep in history….but it is our history. I would hope that African nations understand this side of it.
Through this discussion I have learnt about that from all the conversation today. But the thing is, what the FL was saying was Afro Americans don’t know who they are as Africans, you know who you are as the African Americans you have built yourself to be having lost your connections to Africa. As Africans we see African American come back to Nigeria to discover their roots time and time again. When they arrive they find out the exact tribe they come from and exact African culture that relates to their exact tribe. That is the part the FL is talking about but the knowledge of how it hurts is not something that Nigerian take into account because we don’t know about it, besides she wasn’t talking to a group of African Americans who could be offended. she was talking about to her group of African ladies about the reason why The young ladies needed to avoid naked dressing. Her speech has been expanded beyond what she was saying by the African American trauma and the British media not what she actually said.
@@Weezy39Two things I want to respond to. 1). I noticed many Americans felt that FL should try and address the miscommunication. I do understand that she has a whole government that should do it and not her. However, I do agree but that has not happened and it will continue to be used by the UK media. Also there are cases whereby it is important to nip it in butt. For example, our governor of California Gavin Newsom immediately shut down the UK media when they started to tarnish the Sussex’s Archewell foundation. Governor Newsom runs the 5th largest economy in the world and he stepped up along with his staff. So many American understand the UK media and their will to silence the Sussex’s. They want to broke to come running back to the UK with their tails between the legs, and want to make an example out of them so others royals won’t leave the cult. So although I understand what you are saying, it’s also a matter of understanding the breath of the issue and the priority and respect. 2). I understand that many African Americans travel as a vacation to parts of Africa to finds their original roots, and as I mentioned I just decided to want to know mine which is why I ordered the genealogy kit. However, just like in Africa, many people can’t afford that luxury. So to say many Americans go to Africa, it is usually because they can afford it which is a small minority of Afro Americans. I do appreciate it that you stood strong and tall during this podcast and you did a great job. Thanks
Maybe a better example would have been to have used her own daughter as an example. Hind sight is 20/20. But I think we move past this as squaddies 🙏🏽😉
Why would she need to start with her own daughter when she was not referencing Meghan's dressing. Her only reference to Meghan was that Meghan was someone who had come to Nigeria as someone who was trying to discover her roots. The rest of her statement was aimed at the young girls being admonished to avoid naked dressing.
First lady or not, she said, "Why did Megan come here looking for Africa?" Princess Megan and Prince Harry were invited!! She used Megan as an example of how not to dress. Why Megan???!!! She needs to look in her own backyard!!! I totally disagree with you.
That's ok, we will agree to disagree then. She never used Meghan as an example of how not to dress but rather as an example of someone who has come back to rediscover her roots and beautiful Nigerian ancestry.
After Thought or Post Script (P. S.): How does the First Lady of Nigerian’s speech impact visitors who would be coming to her country for the Invictus Games? Both ladies can become more culturally sensitive when engaging with another culture. First Ladies of countries & visitors to another country need to be culturally aware of that country. However, I support Princess Meghan, Duchess of Sussex because she needs all the support available.
Yes, but the first lady was addressing the youths of Nigeria not Meghan so this has nothing to do with the guests coming into Nigeria. The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
Thanks for your input,but the First Lady knew the effect her speech would have. it’s not the first time she’s addressing this issue and I bet she never mention anything about life style in America before.Speaking about Meghan is not off limits but is how you insert her in the conversation.If it was a mistake she could have said something.
The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
Again enjoyed the live Weezy as always. You have the patience of a St. thank you for allowing open dialogue, but I don’t think you gave enough grace to the thought of the language barrier. No ma’am no offense taken here and I’m not trying to offend. Today was a good day to listen and observe.
She pointed Megan 😮why targeting Megan 😮this woman was very rude 😮 why pronouncing Megan name in the first place knowing that she would be drag every way
The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
@@Weezy39 You working hard to twist that lady's words but it won't work. We all heard it. being Nigerian does not mean being rude and we don't have to accept it. I've known Nigerians who were very respectful and didn't say the first thing that popped in their heads. No excuse whatsoever.
Wizzie, you've just contradicted your stand from yesterday. You said folks should be supporting H&M's friends when they're attacked. Now, you are saying folks with different POVs must be careful for what exactly? The slave comment is hard to understand. Mature folks must be able to have civilized conversations, opinions and debate vigourosly w/o being talked down to.
I understand that Mary frank but the FL didnot make any comments about slavery and the danger is doing exactly what the deranged want by alienating Harry and Meghan from supporters who they just getting to connect to just because we want them to be at the same point of support as the squad are. Joining the pile on when their innocent words are twisted out of proportion because some ill perceived wrong. The FL didnot mention slavery if you listen to the video she said, the culture is beautiful and people come home to experience the culture like Meghan.
@@maryfrank487 Yes, because people were saying that she should keep Meghan's name out of her mouth. And I asked the question about whether she was a slave because it's almost like we are saying that people should be afraid to reference Meghan in public in any way shape or form. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
Dr. Maya Angelou said folks never forget how one made them feel...originally. Folks are not that fatuous. Those who speak English as their 1st language are expressing how they received, understood and intepretted the Nigerian 1st lady's words and they're being 'accused' as not thinking with nuance & logically? Lord, Have Mercy. I'm getting so fraustrated at the gaslighting, intended or not. That is how I'm feeling now. I am not in agreement w/you. I'm sorry. I will leave it here & say thank you for your POVs.
That’s ok, that’s what discussion is all about. You don’t have to agree with me but I maintain my stand. I accused no one of nothing. The First Lady did not address Meghans dressing rather she referred to her one who has come home to experience her African culture because the culture had been preserved for her to meet to come Home to meet it.
The first lady was not attacking Megan, she just didn't articulate her message well. She mentioned two things. 1,girls should embrace their culture. 2. People like Megan are trying to find their roots while the girls don't appreciate their culture. Northern Nigeria is predominantly Muslim, that's where most women cover up. Young women in the South dress like Megan especially in the present heatwave in Nigeria. It's sad that we are amplifying this for the derangers.
Oluremi displayed lack of situational awareness. Her choice of words were not warranted. That is the reason why they should stop rigging themselves into power and allow competent people to lead.
So did she need to go on and speak about this publicly. But she did. Well she should have spoken about it before Maghan came or not associate her name in the same. Knowing that the press is so vicious any reference to Meghan is going to be misinterpreted so regardless of her intention, she should have known it would have been more circumspect. I agree she should clarify.
The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
Common Wizzy. She may not have meant ill but I listened and I really felt people were going to associate what she was saying and come up with exactly what is being fought over.. She was a guest. If anything needed to be said she should have spoken to her. Meghan deserves better. I don't know your first lady well enough but it's not too much to clarify her point if she is misinterpreted.
@@Brahmill56 I think if she does it is because she has been bullied to do so which is a shame because all she said in summary was, young people stop copying other cultures, you are beautiful, your culture is rich and beautiful. So rich and beautiful that people return home to experience our rich culture like Meghan. What is there to clarify in that? What we are therefore effectively, saying is that anybody who would associate with Harry and Meghan must run away because if they say anything about Harry and Meghan is a casual context, they will get beaten up for it no matter how harmless their statement is. Knowing the situation they may be willing to accept this if they understand that this is coming from the ops, but what happens when it's the supporters of the person who you are supporting that are attacking you and forcing humiliation on you when you don't even need the relationship? How well do you think Harry and Meghan will do if isolated?
I got her point but she should have known . She is your FL. I think you decided to defend her but what we we have experienced when it comes to Meghan being hurt over and over by the simplest sneeze is heartbreaking.
@@Brahmill56 This is a sticking point for me. She should have known what? Not to mention Meghan's name in a sentence as an example of someone who came home to discover her roots. Because that is all she said in her reference to Meghan. The twist is media manipulation and how do you then blame the FL for media manipulation?
The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
Why should she not be able to mention Meghan's name without being accused of every crime under the sun including bribery, the way the SS is reacting to the medias manipulation of what the first lady said is what is actually causing the problem.
I love your channel, but I believe your first lady was talking about Meghan. She did not call out Meghans name but the reference made was about her. She could have made that speech on dress any time but this was a very bad time. Since Meghan had just left and she was very dressed for hot weather. I heard her speach and it was general about Nigerian women.
OK, but I have to disagree with you my dear. You can't infer what was not expressly stated and make someone liable for an inference. Meghan was only mentioned as someone who recently came home to discover her roots.
I’m a Nigerian,I’m really angry at the way you defend this woman.Isabelle Don’t defend this woman.you are talking like the rude way we talk at home.I am.Seventy Seven years old. If you don’t want to support Meghan,you can quit Shut Up your Mouth.
I am sorry that you are angry but I take exception to abuse. Open minded discussions ok, abuse no, no matter the age. Thank you for your comment. I maintain my stand.
@@simf9392 Neither does being a first lady make you a wise.. Older people seem to cut threw the chase is all. She can tell it like she sees it just like that tactless so called first lady did.
I listened to the speech 4ctimes. The problem is her wording. I understand what she was trying to say but that is only after filling in the blanks as you did. You and others keep saying "what she meant was". To use "American actress" as an example of inappropriate dressing and then follow that with Meghan's name appears as a slap at Meghan. If you have to fill in the blanks to arrive at what a person is trying to say then that person should not be speaking. Taking the first lady's statement as worded it sounds like an insult.
That's because you are listening to it as an American. Listening to it as a Nigerian and now explaining it to you as a Nigerian should have squashed any misunderstandings. To say that someone who has to explain their speech has no business speaking is exactly the kind of condescension that keeps the black Americans separate from the Africans. I maintain my stand. FL had nothing to apologise for as she only referenced Meghan as someone who came to Nigeria to discover her roots.
@Weezy39 There is no misunderstanding on my part. I gave her the benefit of the doubt and assumed she was not disparaging Meghan. I never said an apology was needed. My point is that words have impact. We should not have to try and decipher what a public official is trying to say or mean. Also, why does it have to be you, Nigerians, vs us, Americans? Americans aren't the only ones who interpreted her statement as a dig at Meghan. You won't even look at her words objectively and see how they could be seen as derogatory. I get it. You are defending your FL. Let's just agree to disagree. Thank you for the interaction.
@@beco13131 I am being objective. I maintain my stand as I am allowed to do. It become a regional affair due to the fact that the misunderstanding is as a result of a clash of cultures. I agree that we should agree to disagree.
No actually it is not considering that she was admonishing ladies in Nigeria which would include the ladies in the nollywood industry. BTW she never criticised Meghans dressing.
One of the rules of Comprehension...Make it as clear as possible. When one is explaining, one is losing. When the 1st lady of Nigeria speaks many pay attention. She must have a press secretary and her words are supposed to be official documents. Diplomacy and explicite communications are what govts do. It is not a Squaddie disagreement when the ambiguity of poorly phrased statements are made by the wife of the Pres of Nigeria. Clarifications are required when words are misinterpretted. Opinions are not facts. Hence, the owness is on the 1st lady of Nigeria.
That’s ok, Mary Frank, however i find your comments extremely condescending to the First Lady. She does not need to explain herself because for those who want to listen and hear it, her statements were very clear.
@@maryfrank487 She is indeed a public servant however she should only be held liable for crimes she has committed. She did not refer to Meghan's dressing. She only referred to her as an example of one who has come to Nigeria to discover her rich Nigerian culture which she was urging the young Nigerian ladies to preserve.
I've listened to the whole speech. I don't think she was attacking Meghan, but her speech was not projected well. To me, like a run-on statements. Should have gotten help from a speech writer as English is not her first language. A lost in translation in her speech. Now, the derangers are running with it.
I disagree entirely. The FL didnot attack Meghan in any shape or form. She only reference who had. One to Nigeria her roots. We as a squad should be pushing back knowing the truth of what the FL was trying to say.
Sorry,I beg to differ. She has the intelligence to know what has been going on in the palace and how everything gets twisted.This woman lacks wisdom, she shouldn’t have mentioned Meghan’s name, she should have ended the speech after using film stars as an example. She shouldn’t have mentioned her name! I don’t know if the issue is related to the fact that English is not her first language. One more thing, I think you are being emotional. SHE SHOULDN’T HAVE MENTIONED MEGHAN’S NAME.
@@Weezy39 It appears you are contradicting yourself. You mentioned that people could use Meghan’s name anyhow and now you have concluded that my comment is incorrect and you disagree entirely. I repeat - based on the fact that Meghan wasn’t part of the audience, the act of diplomacy requires that you don’t bring someone you haven’t met into a conversation/speech - this is the reason why this conversation is all over social media. She was wrong to use Meghan’s name.PERIOD
@@carmensplacebeauty😂😂😂😂😂I went all Caps because she was defending what wasn’t worth defending. I just don’t agree with the way she was defending the FL. I can’t tell you all that I am aware of regarding this Harry and Meghan situation (due to the nature of my job) . The woman I repeat should have chosen her words carefully.
@@henpal2628 I disagree entirely and I think I am allowed to do that. One thing for certain is that having listened to the video, I saw that she only referenced Meghan as someone whom she has seen or heard recently came to Nigeria to discover the rich Nigerian heritage which she is advising the young ladies to preserve.
She is not Nigerian now, I am amazed and amused by your opinion. Her ancestors have been in the US for over 500 years. Please sit down, I am a supporter of Harry and Meghan. I completely disagree with your opinion.
She remains 43% Nigerian whether her ancestors have been in America for 500 years or not. Anyway, that’s fine. We can agree to disagree and I agree with you entirely.
@@henpal2628 No bad energy. You don't need to waste your time over the FL of Nigeria but I think this kind of attitude is what has separated black America from africans over the ages. Anyways thank you for participating in a healthy debate. Have a great day.
Learning Lesson: As a Meghan fan, i will ride with her til the end of time. However, i personally found Meghan 's wardrobe off on this Nigerian visit. None of her outfits were inappropriate overall but not timely for the specific events. We all have our sense of style, and it's hard to leave our comfort zone. Meghan herself said she got the memo to add color 😅 which was a small part of the critique. I am sure in hindsight Meghan will take this experience and dress in deference to the host country that she is visiting. ❤❤❤ i dont care what derangers are saying we are all mature enough to admit when we can do better. The Nigerian First Lady had every right to raise the topic of dress and culture 👏🏼 🙌 I don't believe she meant offense to anyone. Her thoughts and love of Nigeria are foremost on her mind. With such an important subject, I only wished she could find clearer words for us simple people in the back ❤❤❤.
I watched your podcast from a observation point. I listened to the First Ladies words and many will always go against anyone who sounds like they are talking negatively about Meghan. I am no longer a squaddie because things have gotten almost cult like. You either do and say what the majority of group wants or you will be hated from the group. I like Harry & Meghan, however, if you are a believer of Christ, be careful. Many supporters of Harry & Meghan have fallen into worshipping the couple and have elevated, especially Meghan above God the Father & His Son, Jesus. I have commented on several channels, based on some of the content creators & squads behavior and their words, to be careful and do not worship Harry & Meghan. God will not give His glory to anyone, especially when we didn't wake ourselves up. When I hear words describing Meghan as angelic, lifting her above the clouds, & she can do nothing wrong in their sight is not good. Also when a content creator says they won't forgive a person because of something they believe is against Harry & Meghan this is also a danger to their salvation, especially if the content creator(s) are also asking the squad to keep Harry & Meghan in prayer. There is to much hate in the squad against other squad members. After hearing the podcast today, this is why many former squaddies have left. You were on point today, and you were sound on your points, but if someone continuous to hear a speech and declare it's something different and convince the minds of the majority group, regardless of facts, this is not the Sussex Squad but a Cult.
The First Lady of Nigeria must then be one of the most inarticulate public speakers. Whether she intended to or not she nuanced Meghan's dressing by commenting on Met Gala, American actresses (why not Nollywood actresses which could have been more contextual than American to the audience she was addressing), and then Meghan coming to Nigeria to find her roots! She has to be the least informed person to not know how Meghan's dressing on the first day of the trip when she wore the bare back dress was being talked about especially amongst the hateful BP. By the way she is showing her neck in the picture in your podcast and the one in the speech she gave...that is showing skin, too! Anyway I do not buy it that she was not making a swipe at Meghan. It was very unkind of her to disparage a mother while supposedly uplifting other mothers! It is ironic how folk are so selectively offended...Meghan's dressing showing back and arms and comparing Nigerians to Nazis...go figure!
That is incorrect. That's ok, we will agree to disagree then. She never used Meghan as an example of how not to dress but rather as an example of someone who has come back to rediscover her roots and beautiful Nigerian ancestry.
@@Weezy39I hear you. Someone once told me that we all have filters through which communication flows. People can listen to the same speech and hear different things...and then there is the analysis of what was meant and so forth...since the first Lady is not here to tell us what she meant or that what we heard is not what she meant we are left in a conundrum. We disagree respectfully! Shalom!🙏🏾
@@maryannemorris2841 Actually, the diference is that most people who are reacting differently to what the FL said are American, I am Nigerian and I am explaining what the FL said to you as a Nigerian. When an explanation is given, and people choose to remain hurt by ill perceived notions, it becomes a deliberate decision to be offended by a nonoffense.
I spent two hours last night on YT trying to make these points. It’s terrible that the British press has tried to drive a wedge between Squaddies and Nigerians.
It only works if we let it.
@@gigiinspired780that part. American are not conservative, so the message fits.
I understood what the First Lady said. Your culture dresses more conservatively. I am African American, my culture is not as conservative.
It's been terrible all day from the squaddies!
@@gigiinspired780 I agree. It feels like having Meghan supporters drag the FL (and her daughter) online is "mission accomplished" for the Derangers.
Oh by the way they love when we are divided. We all can have different opinions, but we are still rooting for the Sussexes.❤ Next chapter!
I agree!
I understood what the first lady said, and I'm American. She was not insulting Meghan. People who believe she was in on a "Willy Lynch" spiral. Turning your own people against each other because they believe what they hear; not facts.
I agree thers proberbly a misunderstanding with what was said
lol. She called Meghan out by name. She made it clear she was not at all impressed by Meghan’s dress code in Nigeria. Nobody dresses like that to any school. It was insulting.
She also said ‘why did she come to Africa?’ Or words similar. First Lady knows she is not 43% Nigerian. It’s a mathematical impossibility for starters,. Her mother is not 43% Nigerian, her father is white. So it’s not a possibility. Notice she’s forgotten the Maltese claim, although that’s also a lie because her Irish ancestors made a home in Malta and then moved to England. So no Maltese blood!
First Lady would not meet Meghan and Harry because they were invited by the Defence ministry who had planned a coup earlier. She knows they are not part of the Royal Family, they are no longer royal. They also associated with wanted criminals in the US. Not a good look.
What the First Lady said was very clear and if you want it twisted then perhaps your comprehension skills are not as they should be.
I agree with the First Lady, Nigerian women are beautiful they don’t need to dress or use Meghan as a mentor as they are well above her in every way. None of us do. We should not have proven liars as someone to look up to.
@whoseturnisit9733
When people like confusion an is blind by bitterness and hate they miss what is really said....she use Megan as an example that came to Nigeria to learn from them...bashing Megan and Harry wouldn't stop their destiny but hate destroys the soul
I think her words were taken out of context. People need to listen to the entire message and not just part of it. Please people don’t distract from the great time of the Sussex’s in Nigeria.
Agree
When did the squad stop allowing people to have an opinion good or bad about H&M. We can disagree and still support. This is not MEGA.
Thank my love, it’s been a battle
All day! But I”m here for it because it highlights this very problem.
Absolutely! If the Sussexes are going to travel the world to other people's cultures, they have to do their homework. That is not too much to ask. What I like about Meghan is that even though her first pink dress was not appropriate for the culture, the women spoke to her and she adjusted. What is wrong with that? Some Squaddies are becoming irrational. People of the world are not going to adjust their cultures to suit the sensitive egos of some Squaddies.
@@rosam674 l thought they criticized her for not wearing colors and that’s what Meghan referred to, not the dress being inappropriate.
Tell her and her husband (Mr. President) with the fake degrees to shut up... Women and men are being kidnaped left and right and she is worried about nonsense.
I listened to the Nigerian FL speech several times. What did I interpet? An expression of personal disdain for the Nigerian youth's dressing that she connected to stars from America, referencing the Met Gala. With all respect to the FL, why all of this on the back of American culture? Are there any social issues in Nigeria that lends to the youth's mindset? She of all people knows the historical knowledge as to why many blacks in America don't know about African culture. While I understand your Nigerian perspective, Weezy, no one is above reproach because of their status and this includes both, the FL of Nigeria and the Sussex's. Ultimately, does the FL believe that Americans are responsible for instilling culture pride in their youth? As an example, I often wonder why the African youth want to lighten their beautiful skin, five shades? Overall, there is much to be learned, however, to put the mishaps on American culture is very much a stretch. I suspect the FL could be dealing with some personal, culture shame because of her daughter's career choice and we became the backlash. As a FL, she has the responsibility of using her words wisely. Has she used her past platform to address her concerns about the youth? If not, why now, after the Sussex's visit?
This a great point of view however as I said multiple times during the course of the livestream, this was an event celebrating one year in office organised by the mothers of the nation. She did not disparage Meghan in anyway shape or form. You can still question why women bleach their skins of course you can. That would be useful ammunition if you were being attacked but the First Lady has not attacked you or Meghan so this is outside of the point. But thank you for your comment.
I agree why now? I suspect rf had something to do with it and the president n fl brown nose them. No offense to anyone but in the Nigerian culture of Yoruba they honor Oshun the goddess of sexuality n seduction plus for many centuries some African countries the woman are either half naked with their breast showing so please don't blame America for women around the world dressing seductively
@@Weezy39 I did not say that she disparaged Meghan. I'm honestly wanting to understand why Americans are to blame for the youth's behavior. As a black, American woman, I respect your FL. I simply would have preferred to hear her discuss how to reach out and connect with black, American families to aid in their discovery of their African culture. Actually, I think the skin bleaching is fair game if we are speaking in terms of influence, as your FL clearly feels such about American film stars. Thank you.
@@gugah6895 Speaking about her referencing American culture, the reference to American culture as being to blame for influencing Nigerian culture negatively, it is because for the most part, America is the country that the highest number of Nigerians migrate to and then import the American culture to Nigeria. Also, the entertainment world tends to want to mirror the American entertainment world, this is why most of our musicians, actors and comedians go to America in search of better opportunities. But the American culture they bring back to Nigeria is not compatible with Nigerian culture e.g the naked dressing.
@@Weezy39 I've seen some pretty flamboyant styles in Nollywood movies.
I agree with you Isabella, she was not accusing Meghan. She was pointing out how good Nigerian culture is, that even an actress from America came to learn about the culture. The haters are twisting her words to their own agenda. One of Meghan's main haters played the same sound bite you did and cackled it was shade when it wasn't.
I completely agree with you. There are cultural expectations that you learn each time you visit. Muslim countries are very strict for example. Derangers are loving our fighting amongst ourselves.
Muslim countries let you know up front what is expected, unlike Nigeria. Meghan would have adhered to any requirements I'm sure.
But that's not why Meghan came to Nigeria...So she knew why she was using Meghan's name...And we are clever enough to see the nuance!!!!
I agree to disagree
I agree 👍 why now mention dressing influence while using Meghan name knowing that the dirty British media would continue to attack Meghan after so many years. Why now right after Sussex visit? It's very suspicious to me how come she never mentioned that some women in Yoruba Orisha faith dressed half naked before America or Hollywood was formed? The Yoruba honor Oshun the goddess of sexuality n love before Muslim or colonists invaded Nigeria
Rf are behind the brown nosing fl statement
I personally think it's time to leave this alone, the first lady must be feeling bad after all this misunderstanding, we all love Nigeria and it's wonderful people, love wins.❤❤❤❤
Exactly!
Thank you! Love Wins!❤❤❤
Come on squaddies please please keep it real 🙏🏻 💯 they treated Megan well and we're proud of our Nigerians family
They were treated very well, but that is not the point being discussed.
I can't believe how this conversation is going round and round in circles. She didn't have to mention Meghan's name, whichever way we choose to look at it.
I disagree with you. We should not be prepared to attack a person because they mentioned Meghan's name and the mention of Meghan's name was used by the British Media to cause an uproar. In other words, you are saying that no one has the permission to mention Meghan's name in public. Do you know how that sounds! The FL is not the problem, the problem is the people who have twisted the words of the FL who welcomed Meghan with open arms and literally gave Meghan the best the country has to offer and more. Having opened her arms to Meghan, then you tell the first lady of the country, (she is not the village chiefs wife you know. She is the first lady of a country, that is the wife of the president of a country with 36 states,) that she cannot mention Meghans name. No, that's not ok. Lets agree to disagree. The conversation can end then.
@@Weezy39 No one ever said they don't have the right to mention Meghan's name in public. We all know her name has been mentioned all over the place, mostly in negativity and dishonesty. This so called queen did the same thing no matter how you slice it or twist it. It was soo wrong! She was inappropriate and petty. The excuse that that's how Nigerians talk is unacceptable. I've met a few Nigerians and they were not like that. No excuses for her behavior.
I totally agree with you. It was very clear to me that the First Lady of Nigeria was using Duchess Meghan as an example as to why some people want to know about their roots. As an African American Meghan’s visit made me order a genealogy kit to find out about my roots. I understood the First Lady perfectly well. I am so glad to you trying to clarify it. It is frustrating that this is an issue. Stand your ground. Thank you
I’m an American, and I agree that the 1st Lady DID NOT insult Meghan. Like many, we search our roots in African cultural. BM is twisting this-don’t bite!
If you listen carefully she used Meghan's name to show the young people that even Meghan came to learn
You hit it on the head. Before Meghan went to Nigeria 🇳🇬 she expressed a desire to visit the country to learn about the country.
Ok....
When I think about it was the Brist media that posted the what the women said to attack Megan in a negative light and create all thos conflict
People are dragging this first lady child for no reason, I wish you all open your ears. The fight is between British media and Royal.
Thank you. We are giving the haters what they want.
@@joduncan8235 agree
Yep
This was set up by the deranges and British press and they are reporting it as scandal on Meghan. Squad should delete first lazy child picture posted for bad purposes
Ms Banks May God continue to help you in Jesus name. Amen.
Amen
Actually, First lady of Nigeria does not need to clarify anything. She said what she said and Duchess Meghan does what she does! Storms do pass! Carry on! GOD speed to all!👍🏼🙏🏼👍🏼😊
The 'why did Meghan come to Nigeria 'is what is causing the trouble.The first lady needs to be careful when she is making a speech and do not leave room for doubt.It is clear English is not her first language she needs to get her words and context right.The media will have a field day with this.
This how Nigerians speak to ask someone not to speak like themselves or to be more American in their expression is a denial of their right to express themselves. Her meaning was crystal clear for those who want to get it.
@@Weezy39 If the meaning of the culture is to be rude and disrespectful then I want no part of it. No matter how some want to twist it in her favor her comment with Meghan name and her culture is her mouth was disrespectful. Nigerian culture is far from perfect, Now the UK press is having a field day with this because of her ignorant comments.
@@--99 that’s ok, we shall agree to disagree this time.
I believe that Meghan has changed the way she dresses because CopyKatie can’t wear these clothes when she goes out. H&M 💘don’t need a bunch of yes people around like the BRF/Cult. We can’t go into someone’s home & go against them. That works both ways.
WE DON’t WANT THE DERANGERS TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER THE SQUAD.
People have gone to African countries & imposed their culture on them for hundreds of years. We need to all function & be diplomatic as NATO does because Squad members are Allies. There is strength in numbers. H&M 💘 are trying to pave the way for Archie and Lilibet as much as possible. Praying 🙏🏽 we can agree to disagree.
You always have a balanced view. I agree with the part when you said that Meghan changed the way she dresses because CopyKatie could not wear those clothes. I thought the same when I saw the switch as well. We will overcome this, it's just teething pains, that is the reason why I have been so patiently followed this topic up without getting frustrated because I understood that people have an emotional reaction to all things Harry and Meghan and I often do as well dig my feet into the sand when it comes to them. This has been interesting to say the least to be on the other side but i expected it when the conversation began. But I just cannot abide a sycophant, this also meant, I cannot be that myself.
@@Weezy39Thanks! I am a 77 year old African-American and have changed my opinions when I looked deeper into a situation. When Obama was President, he surrounded himself with people that help to make him successful & not YES people. Harry is a born & bread diplomat & one of Meghan’s degree is international relations. They will be Okay!
Hi Isabella. I just found your replay.👏 I heard the umpteenth time you played the Nigerian First Lady's talk and I recalled something. As an African American years ago, I visited Kenya, Tanzania & Uganda, East Africa and Ghana, West Africa the next year. I noticed very different speech patterns. The Africans spoke straight, to the point, without embellishment. While this might offend Americans, it is just what it is. So when Sussex Squaddies are offended, arguing over how people in different countries speak, it's a waste of time and energy. Take care.💖💖
Exactly!👍
I'm sorry, but you're the first lady didn't Google why Harry and Meghan were there in Nigeria. The chief of arm forces invited them because of the Invictus games and nothing more.
That was rhetorical question, listen to the whole thing and you”ll see that she had already answered the question before she asked it.
@@Weezy39
And she answered it again in the sentence after she said it 😉
Squatty need to be very careful. Everyone don’t have agree with each. But you don’t have to attack people when they don’t agree with you. That’s why I left some of the sussex channel’s.
My apologies… under your live I made comments about the First Lady judging Meghan. I had to go back to the clip, she actually complimented her by saying why do you think Meghan comes to look here in Africa?????? The answer was Nigérian knows who they are, we dressed a certain way, we don’t have to imitate the Americans, this is not the met gala. But it’s still a snub for the American, it’s like saying they are uncultured. So we are going back to the continent to find our roots. Leave the Caucasian with their own backward thinking etc…
That's ok. No offence taken
Well we’ll the British media has achieved what they wanted discord among supporters of the Sussex squad.Angela Levine said Meghcwas disrespectful with her dress . Sad the bait was taken.
But it is the squaddies who are taking the FL comments out of context thereby causing the conflict. I cant stay quiet and agree with you just because you all are bigger in number. This is why o took the time to explain the nuance of what played out in Nigeria.
@@Weezy39wheezy are you NIGERIAN?
@@conniebalmer1448 Yes my love, I am!
When i listen to her tone i understand now where you are coming from.Actually she was complimenting Meghan for coming to Nigeria..But her delivery was poor .
I don't think it is appropriate to say that her delivery was poor, you might not expect her to say things the way she said as a Nigerian, but she cannot speak as anything else other than a Nigerian. Just like no one expects an American to speak as a Nigerian. So no, her delivery was not poor, especially as all she said was, Meghan came home to discover her beautiful Nigerian ancestry which the Nigeria girls are sweeping aside to emulate western culture.
Hello Weezy. A very enlightening conversation. Thanks for giving all sides a voice and encouraging respectful dialog. Blessing sister and congrats on the nearly 4K subscribers. You are gracious host.
You are so welcome
Some people felt like should have dressed the was fine. If she had gone to an Arab country she would have differently. Nothing is wrong with following the visiting country traditions. SS please stop the hate for the first lady.
Yes, please stop insulting the Nigerian FL.
I agreed with you about what the First Lady she was not talking badly about Meghan in her speech. I am American and let’s be honest our older generation say the same about how the younger generation and the way they dress ie( stomachs out and but checks showing). What is acceptable in New York, California would be looked at sideways in say Indiana, Kentucky and some of the more conservative states
That isn't Sussex Squad. Those are infiltrators!
Time to shut this down it’s going nowhere. Some for and some against.
The British are enjoying this. Sad
She just added to her wounds . Imagine in her words, "people who don't know their root" . I mean, is quite absurb and heartbreaking. We cannot continue like this.Is an insult to all of us and all descendants of slavery.
No she didn’t, she was admonishing the young girls against naked dressing. She said even Meghan came home to learn about her culture.
THANK YOU, WEEZY, SO MUCH FOR CLARIFYING THE SPEECH! IT WAS SO IMPORTANT AND ESSENTIAL! Otherwise, the British RF and their Rotors would have gained their false narrative to prevail.
The first Lady didn't say anything wrong against Meghan.
Thank you Weezy for another enjoyable podcast as always. It was a delight to hear you explaining what the first lady said sometimes you have to agree to disagree 🙏😘❤️❤️
The 1st lady should have been more cautious with her words as a state representative. If American that were sold to the Us during the transatlantic slave-trade, they were sold by the black people on the continent. So she should apologise to these slaves descendants having sold them instead of blaming them.
I disagree entirely
I disagree. Yes, there were blacks who sold their own, but the majority were white slavers who abducted black people off their land. It’s heartbreaking for the abducted blacks to lose their freedom, their family and friends, their culture and history. In turn, their own family wondering where they had gone to and grieving for them.
The first lady's speech was not very well formulated that's why? Somewhere in her speech she mentioned something about DNA also. I understand what you're trying to say, but I suggest she gets a speechwriter from now on.
@@erniecool4603 I disagree with you the first lady statement was clear. She was referencing those who come home to experience the beautiful Nigerian culture just like Meghan.
@@Weezy39 okay, we don't have to be divided. However her speech wasn't concluded well at all. She ended her speech with Meghan's as an example, and that's what prompted this whole hoopla so to speak!
Isabella, the first lady didn't say anything bad to Meghan. But what she says about American and American actress is not right way to put it.
Frankly, my love, i disagree, she simply stated that she did not want our young ladies to dress the way the american actresses dressed with the naked dressing when they attend their industry events because it is not our culture. There was absolutely nothing wrong with what she said.
Her speech was in poor taste. She had an American guest in her country and she took the opportunity to throw shade at The Met Gala and American culture. I don't care if she is first lady. That was soo unnecessary We all know of slavery. We all know we don't know the culture, that is why they go to learn.not to be met with disrespect and inappropriate remarks about our country. She said we don't know African culture but she shouldn't speak negatively like she knows our culture either, What she said was disrespectful to Americans,
Hello, my love. This was not at an event with Meghan or when Meghan was in Nigeria, this was an event that took place yesterday. Further, she was not discussing Meghan's dressing. And her comments about Black American's not knowing African culture was not disrespectful, it's just facts. She was speaking to the youths in Nigeria not to emulate the naked dressing they see in the Met gala in America, advising them to be respectful of Nigerian culture because Nigerian culture does not accept naked dressing. Her speech was not in poor taste when you take the time to understand exactly what she was saying. I recommend that you watch the video in full. The link is in my description box of my latest livestream.
@@Weezy39 But she still referenced Meghan in her speech while dissing American culture. What if Meghan came there with respect. Meghan never made negative remarks about her culture whatsoever. That was unnecessary and uncalled for and was wrong on any level.
I think the statement is quite Ambiguous.. I listened several times
The first lady, could had made her point without shaming American culture. Met Gala & the way they dressed. 🙄
@@mayrav1155 Exactly! Why insult another culture to get your point across. Meghan didn't come there looking for Nigeria. She was a guest paying homage to her ancestry.. That's all.
Thank you for the podcast. Just finished listening to replay and all I can say the haters is enjoying this.
I don't understand the problem with the First Lady's speech. I completely understand what she said about the culture and why those that live there should basically teach the young people coming up how to present themselves. Princess Meghan was used as an example pointing out that she "Gets it," she knows who she is. Squads, don't be like the rota and derangers want. I did not have to listen to the entire speech and get what was said just by listening to the sound bite. If you understand how the different culture say certain words this would not be an issue.
Thank you
@Weezy: Great explanation & commentary on this subject. I enjoy your international perspective 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💓💓💓💓
As a Black American who has not done a genealogy test, I don't know where I come from (in Africa) either so I did not find the first lady's comments offensive at all.
Watching on catch up. Thank you for leading out in the discussion. Highly delighted with Nigeria’s kindness towards Princess Meghan and Prince Harry❤️
This young lady must be made her parents made in this risqué outfits 😅😅😅. She seems to be saying Meghan came to find her cultural roots. That is why Meghan when to Nigeria. People let rest.
That's exactly how i heard the speech.
Isabella you were on fire today I enjoyed how you stood your ground. And you could find levity In the debate. Over the past 20hours I've observed a few spaces were there's no room to debate and that's sad. I'm ride or dead with H&M but I don't get upset at every word of negative opinion I just disagree and keep it moving. I'm noticing more and more Squaddies or taking ownership over the Sussexes. They are their own persons individually we share a love and fight for them but should never fight each other. I hate being told how I should react to something. More and more squaddies are displaying aggression towards our own because we disagree on something. Today you asked several times go back and listen to what the first lady said, but all you receive d was push back not once did anyone say ok I'll listen again. We all sit on pins and needles because we see how Meghan has to fight for just being treated fairly.. But some of us need to get over ourselves. We know Meghan is typically inappropriate dressed. And so does the first lady. In short she meant young lady's of Nigeria don't mimic the women of American when we have a rich and beautiful culture to be proud of. Why do you think someone like Meghan came to Africa to find her Nigerian roots be proud.
Thank you so much. Your comment was very healung
I have to correct an error. I meant we know Meghan is normally appropriately dressed and the first lady knew that as well. P.S. remember detainees are going to derange. The UK media is hungry because That Family doesn't have food for them. And the Sussex as locked them out of the house. They hungry and we eat on any Sussex scraps. Stay blessed.
I am noticing that also. The Sussex Squad is becoming a cult with one youtuber considers himself to be the leader.
Naked dressing - in reality, I don't believe any culture, any nation welcomes that naked dressing. That is not beautiful, not comfortable, not warm enough and not attractive. IT IS ONLY FOR THE SHOW.
Be aware that that is just your opinion. Others have the right to disagree & dressed differently. 😊
@@mayrav1155 Of course, it's my opinion and feel very free to disagree. But my points are very valid, cos I'm living in a cold climate, where you cannot survive without proper clothes. So you yourself must also stand other people's opinions!
She insinuated somethings in her speech. You also have to put your points across.
Nope she didnot. She merely stated that Nigerias culture was beautiful and that the young people should stop emulating naked dressing from the west ruining the dressing cultures . She said the culture was so beautiful that people are coming back home to experience it including Meghan, she insinuated nothing more than what she actually expressed.
I don't particularly like Tinubu or his wife, but I think you were very fair in your opinion.
I watched the clip with my mother ( an Isoko woman) and after seeing the pics of Tinubu's daughter she said the First Lady was likely thinking of her own daughter. Meghan was just an illustration of people from abroad seeing the value in Nigeria that many of us Nigerians don't.
It was not an insult. We need to be wise about picking our battles.
Exactly!
Thank you for seeing the point. My tired is tired!😥😥
Thank you Isabell I understand now understanding different cultures is very important. I just think the squaddies have been traumatized by the mistreatment of Megan.
I agree. But we must get onto the path road to healing otherwise we risk losing everything we fought to gain by pushing would be allies away. Thank you so much for taking the time to work through your understanding of this issue. So proud of you.
Now, you are making excuses for her duaghter? Why would the daughter of the 1st lady be modeling when she's not required to do so? Please, I don't believe what you are saying...she said Meghan came looking for herself. It was uncalled for. Respectfully, she's not stupid? She knew exactly what she was saying. She mentioned film. Met Gala. Nakedness. Meghan. Sorry, You are spinning. It is not working. It is not a knee-jerk reaction. That is insulting to any logically thinking adult. If she didn't mention Meghan, no one will be paying attention to her comments. Sorry. I've see a handful of Nigerians saying what I have articulated.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. The First Lady made a calculated decision to bring Meghan, film actress, MET gala..'why did Meghan come here looking for Africa?'....if she meant no harm, that was her moment to say Meghan was invited here and has the opportunity to learn about her culture...instead of leaving that part hanging. Pretty much saying Nigerians are fashionable, knows who we are....shade.
That's not our business
I disagree with you entirely.
No she didnot, just because we have witnessed this behaviour from the British Media in the past does not mean that it will be the same for everyone. The FL said nothing wrong about Meghan. The only thing she has said is that, Nigerian culture is beautiful and even Meghan came home to experience it.
This in correct and I disagree with you entirely
Wheezy I support your analysis .
Thanks!
Thank you so much"
Isabella Banks, thank you. The operative word here is CULTURE. I take no offense to the First Lady of Nigeria words, because she was speaking from a perspective of her country’s dominant ways of living, attitudes, behaviors, fashions, etc., - as it relates to a group of Nigerian woman - her people. Her comparison of her country’s fashion to - for instance America’s liberal sense of fashion - enlightens. This is a big world 🌎 and we are not all monolithic. In some cultures, I may be expected to take off my shoes, wear a scarf, cover my body, kneel, bow, eat with my fingers, avoid eye contact, etc. My tendency would be to respect the host or stay away. I also take no offense in The First Lady mentioning Meghan’s name, because Meghan it seems was indeed excited to go to “The Mother Land” and discover the Nigerian culture; this discovery I think would be an exciting, interesting teachable experience for Meghan or any of us in a foreign land. The First Lady does not need to explain herself or apologize for anything she said; she said what she had to say - DONE. The toxic media, derangers, disrupters, etc., can cook their pot of malice - like they usually do - but I certainly don’t have to digest their crap. I appreciate the work Harry and Meghan do around the world. I appreciate the hospitality Nigeria exhibited towards The Sussex’s, and as a squaddie, I will NOT allow any negativity concerning this matter to create a DIVIDE AND CONQUER tactic that redirects my focus from goodness to foolishness. This is what the haters want, but “the devil is a liar!” 🥰🙏🏾🇺🇸🇳🇬
Amen to that! The devil is a liar! He wants to isolate the sussexes from support! This was a hugely teachable experience for me and I am sure it would be a teachable experience for most Nigerians like myself who have been fighting for their lives since the day broke today.
@@Weezy39 We must keep our eyes on the prize and choose our battles. This too will pass - especially if Meghan changes her hairstyle or Harry shaves off all of his hair! 😆Conserve your energy! I’m happy to have discovered your channel. Thank you again for your work. 🥰
The red dress M wore was designed by a Nigerian I believe. So maybe the First Lady’s comments were truly misinterpreted. Yes Whezzzy. 😊.
CAN YOU PLEASE PLAY THE WHOLE TAPE/ SPEECH. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT. THANKS.
Ok, I will get for you
Squatty need to be very careful. Everyone don’t have agree with each. But you don’t have to attack people when they don’t agree with you.
Exactly 👍!
Interestingly, the First Lady is dressed in a white dress...as did Meghan...
I don't believe, somebody told Meghan in Nigeria to use more colours in her clothes. Instead, Meghan had packed more colourful clothes in her suitcases planned to be used in that order.
Meghan herself said, she got the memo to wear more colour. She didn’t say how she got the memo, but I think it was mostly her own observation having packed several options of outfits and then deciding to wear colours and fits that matched the fits of the people
Of the country.
@@Weezy39 i see, she got the memo...ok there.
Also, as you said, the First Lady did not mention Meghan's dressing, which I'm very glad and satisfied with. It was about one's roots🤗
The First Lady could ve made that speech without mentioning Meghan cos we all know that Meghan has been going thru alot .now ppl re dragging her daughter,Nigerians always want to act righteous on ppls life style and we keep traveling out to this same countries why .
Yes, but why is she not allowed the freedom to mention Meghan name? Surely we can see that the problem here is not the FL but those who twisted the news. In that case, may be we should be telling Meghan to stay home if you are going to take peoples freedom of speech away because Meghan visited them.
I understand because Diana would do her research and dress according to the country. But the speech signals out that American, Movie stars, and Meghan name .
As repeatedly stated the FL speech didnot reference Meghan in the way that she criticised Meghan, she admonished young girls to not emulate naked dressing because naked dressing is not African culture. She said people come from all over to experience African culture, like Meghan who just left Nigeria, so why are you sad?
This first lady is an aid for the enemy.Woman go clean your house then touch grass and start walking
No she is not and I totally disagree.
The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
I believe the First Lady should have stayed away from that topic. Her speech writer set her up. 👍🏽
I disagree entirely. All she said in her reference to Meghan was Meghan came to Nigeria to discover her roots and to experience the rich Nigerian culture that she is encouraging the girls to preserve.
The Subliminal messages and purposeful misdirection of a specific point was masterfully done by the speech writer.
@@Judyri Actually, that is incorrect and I could not disagree with you more. The FL only referenced Meghan as one who has come to Nigeria to experience her Nigerian heritage which she was urging the young ladies in the audience to preserve. You are understanding that way because you are listening to what she said through the filter of American lingo and references. But anyway, we shall agree to disagree.
@@Weezy39No No. I just listen to her speech here only. And I agree to disagree with you. That was masterful speech writing.
@@Judyri The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation. But I agree to disagree with you.
I understand that this controversy was created by the derangers. The FL did not address Meghan's clothing. Meghan's name was used to emphasize people that come to Africa seeking for their roots because african culture is beautiful. It is important not to react based on someone's opinion of something. We need to listen directly from the source, with open mind, to make your own judgment. For me, it looks like people are spending too much time surrounded by negativity and because of that are too sensitive to the point that everything is seen in a negative light. Let's not fall for this trap. Let's be more responsible with our actions, our opinions and our attitudes.
The first lady did not talk to Meghan, so she doesn't know whether Meghan went to Nigerian for reasons other than their work with the Invictus Games and the Archewell Foundation.
That is incorrect the First Lady would have been briefed to the reason for meghans visit. She didnot reference Meghans visit in a negative way. She only said , nigerias culture is very rich and that people come home to experience it including Meghan.
@@Weezy39 I didn't say there was no official briefing. Obviously the defense minister told the FL the reason why he invited the Sussexes; but Meghan's acceptance of the invitation doesn't mean she went to Nigerian in search of a better culture because she thought her own was not worth emulating. That is the message your FL conveyed in her statement. I have read between the lines. Thanks for the heart.
The bottom line is the 1st lady could've made her point WITHOUT INSERTING Meghan's name along with "American actress + Met Gala" in the CONTEXT of her statement about a DRESS CODE considering the outfits Meghan wore while in Nigeria!. It was very unwise, insensitive, naive, and hurtful to many who heard what they heard her saying. She should've known better; she should've considered how her words would fall on people around the world who don't share her point of view concerning attire; especially in this era of social media where words are left up to individual interpretation. She can say whatever she believes and practices, she needs to keep Meghan's name out of her mouth!
That's because you are listening to it as an American. Listening to it as a Nigerian and now explaining it to you as a Nigerian should have squashed any misunderstandings. She did not reference Meghan's dressing but rather referenced Meghan as someone who came to Nigeria to experience her Nigerian culture. There is no reason for her to be bullied out of speaking Meghan's name.
The FL was speaking to her own people in her own country. Just because she mentioned Meghan's name (in a good way to my ears) doesn't mean we can pile on the woman and her daughter.
@@Weezy39 Notice closely the FIRESTORM of upsets and commentaries the 1st lady's comment has created from different corners of the world on social media platforms. As a politician, she should know that every word from her mouth matters and will be interpreted by the hearers in light of their lived experiences, not hers. Do better!
@@carmensplacebeauty You're welcome to speak for yourself from your perspective. Allow that same space for others to feel how they feel and express openly that feeling.
@@wdgafs56 The "firestorm" is from the British Media. We did not need to add fuel to the fire. Don't we have that same responsibity on Social Media?
Why now?
Why this particular time? So frustrating after all this young woman has been through. This is not about nuance. Nuance is calling her and speaking to her not name associating.
Because she was referencing Meghan as someone who just came home to discover her roots.
Half of these commentators could be derangers, trying to spread confusion and dissent. That is what the derangers do. So we need to stand strong. Sorry, Isabella , I believe you were talking to a bunch of derangers. I believe what you said was true, and Meghan was well dressed. The derangers are trying to gang up on you.
Thank you so much for what you said. Quite unfortunate but it's not just the derangers, it's also squaddies.
Whilst this controversy raged, I went on to another sussex friendly podcast to listen to what they had to say about this subject matter and I was quite shocked to hear things like, the FL is uneducated, didn't explain herself properly, must have been paid by the royal family, was jealous of Meghan, was jealous that she was not part of the ceremony, was jealous that the Kings came to Meghan, said what she said because she wants a state visit.
I laughed in distress like someone who floated outside of their body and was watching themselves being violated!
The disrespect for the FL, the disrespect for Nigeria, the ignorance, the lack of understanding and the unwillingness to make room for the phenomenon called language interference or cross linguistic interference was astounding to me especially as the behaviour I was witnessing was the same behaviour that Meghan was confronted with during her time in the UK which we stay dragging the royal rota and derangers for to date.
For those who have not come across Language interference or cross-linguistic interference before. Language interference or cross-linguistic interference occurs when a person's speech is influenced by the structures, vocabulary, and idiomatic expressions of their native language or cultural environment, which can lead to misunderstandings even when they are speaking a universal language like English.
Certain things became clear to me in course of this discussion. I am glad for it though as it expanded my horizon and made me less naïve of the landscape in which I am walking. I am making adjustments as we speak.
It is well!
@Weezy39 I suspect that some of those squaddies are derangers pretending to be squaddies. Others are too trusting and too quick to follow others who bad mouth people. As soon as I see disrespect and hateful speech, I start to suspect. What a shame. It's so hard to deal with. You dealt with it so much better than I could. Great job. 👍 👍👍
I understand . Thanks but I'm feeling very sad
Don't feel sad. Life goes on. M+H will be fine. They are winning!
I think Meghan dressed appropriately for the weather (103 degrees) and for the occasions. I for one would be extremely uncomfortable in the layers and styles the officers wife's were wearing. I think Meghan's style of dress remained the same, cool and comfortable, through out her successful visit.
That's not the point though. The FL never criticised Meghan's dressing, she was addressing the young ladies and advising them to stop following the naked trend, to preserve our dressing culture, She was saying that our culture is so good that many people want to come back to investigate their culture for example Meghan.
@@Weezy39 "Naked trend", what exactly comes under this qualification? That definition will determine whether she was addressing Meghan.
You have to choose your words carefully and listen carefully and take wisdom from the words as well. We cannot leave any room for interpretation for the ones always looking to create drama and division . Meghan is American she dresses to suit her taste , I don’t think her dress was naked personally but some will disagree if she would have worn the traditional African style of dress on her visit she would have been criticized and called fake or something . African and African Americans need to support each other. We have few real friends anything that divides us the others use against us. I must say as an American that I agree with her I regards to some of the dress in our culture that pushes the line of nakedness and does not give any hint of modesty or self respect we as a people may realize where we need to improve instead of arguing about everything.
I disagree the FL didnot say anything wrong at all. The FL didnot reference Meghans dressing.
I didn’t get that either , but when you put certain words and names together the people that s looking to find something will.
@@gigiinspired780 The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
First lady is human to make a mistake but the most important thing is acknowledging a mistake has been done and to apologise to whoever might be offended.
A mistake would be apologised for if a mistake has been made. The FL did absolutely nothing wrong by referring to Meghan one of those who has come home to discover her roots.
Thank you for comment
I find this whole reaction to the First Lady speech ridiculous.. I listen to the speech 3 times and understand what she said. Some squaddies are interpreting and twisting the First Lady’s speech the way the UK tabloids twist every thing about Meghan. Are they doing this intentionally? I hope not. We don’t need to go down the UK tabloid’s rabbit hole. We are better than that. Isabella, you have the patience of Job in trying to make them see reason… Keep up the good work. I love your channel…👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
Thank you. I don’t feel as good today as the larger implications of the squaddies twisting the FL words out of context and their resulting demands sinks in today.
The first lady's speech was in poor taste, definitely unnecessary. Sounds like someone got to her(told her what to say). I wouldn't be surprised if it was King Charles or his representatives. I guarantee whoever it was has dirt on the First lady.
This is not what I heard and disagree with what you are saying.
@Weezy39 I respectfully disagree. It's disingenuous for people to tell others we didn't hear what she clearly stated. What does Meghan 's attire, the MET gala, and nakedness have to do with political concerns in Nigeria ?
@@Wonderfulblizz I also respectfully disagree, she never mentioned anything about Meghan's dressing. She merely stated that Nigerias culture was beautiful and that the young people should stop emulating naked dressing from the west ruining the dressing cultures . She said the culture was so beautiful that people are coming back home to experience it including Meghan, she insinuated nothing more than what she actually expressed. I am sure that we can agree to disagree.
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FYI. What I think the discussion devolved into is how Black Americans felt about anyone saying Afro Americans don’t have culture. I say this because I live in Northern California and many Africans got educated at the University of California and tended to come off that they are superior/arrogant. I believe maybe many Africans don’t understand that. It took a while before I understood how Americans felt about the First Lady’s comments and that seems to be more the problem. Because of the use of the English language, I see how the miscommunication unfolded. I do understand both sides although I don’t think the First Lady slighted Meghan. Although I do think that Africans don’t seem to understand that Afro Americans DO have a culture, albeit not deep in history….but it is our history. I would hope that African nations understand this side of it.
Through this discussion I have learnt about that from all the conversation today. But the thing is, what the FL was saying was Afro Americans don’t know who they are as Africans, you know who you are as the African Americans you have built yourself to be having lost your connections to Africa. As Africans we see African American come back to Nigeria to discover their roots time and time again. When they arrive they find out the exact tribe they come from and exact African culture that relates to their exact tribe. That is the part the FL is talking about but the knowledge of how it hurts is not something that Nigerian take into account because we don’t know about it, besides she wasn’t talking to a group of African Americans who could be offended. she was talking about to her group of African ladies about the reason why The young ladies needed to avoid naked dressing. Her speech has been expanded beyond what she was saying by the African American trauma and the British media not what she actually said.
@@Weezy39Two things I want to respond to. 1). I noticed many Americans felt that FL should try and address the miscommunication. I do understand that she has a whole government that should do it and not her. However, I do agree but that has not happened and it will continue to be used by the UK media. Also there are cases whereby it is important to nip it in butt. For example, our governor of California Gavin Newsom immediately shut down the UK media when they started to tarnish the Sussex’s Archewell foundation. Governor Newsom runs the 5th largest economy in the world and he stepped up along with his staff. So many American understand the UK media and their will to silence the Sussex’s. They want to broke to come running back to the UK with their tails between the legs, and want to make an example out of them so others royals won’t leave the cult. So although I understand what you are saying, it’s also a matter of understanding the breath of the issue and the priority and respect. 2). I understand that many African Americans travel as a vacation to parts of Africa to finds their original roots, and as I mentioned I just decided to want to know mine which is why I ordered the genealogy kit. However, just like in Africa, many people can’t afford that luxury. So to say many Americans go to Africa, it is usually because they can afford it which is a small minority of Afro Americans. I do appreciate it that you stood strong and tall during this podcast and you did a great job. Thanks
Maybe a better example would have been to have used her own daughter as an example. Hind sight is 20/20. But I think we move past this as squaddies 🙏🏽😉
Why would she need to start with her own daughter when she was not referencing Meghan's dressing. Her only reference to Meghan was that Meghan was someone who had come to Nigeria as someone who was trying to discover her roots. The rest of her statement was aimed at the young girls being admonished to avoid naked dressing.
First lady or not, she said, "Why did Megan come here looking for Africa?" Princess Megan and Prince Harry were invited!! She used Megan as an example of how not to dress. Why Megan???!!! She needs to look in her own backyard!!!
I totally disagree with you.
That's ok, we will agree to disagree then. She never used Meghan as an example of how not to dress but rather as an example of someone who has come back to rediscover her roots and beautiful Nigerian ancestry.
I believe she may have been told to do this because they may have promised her a private visit to the Palace, maybe? It was a deliberate act.. chai!!
@@gee7080 Oluremi Tinubu tripped by a trip to the palace are you for real! Not at all.
After Thought or Post Script (P. S.):
How does the First Lady of Nigerian’s speech impact visitors who would be coming to her country for the Invictus Games? Both ladies can become more culturally sensitive when engaging with another culture. First Ladies of countries & visitors to another country need to be culturally aware of that country. However, I support Princess Meghan, Duchess of Sussex because she needs all the support available.
Yes, but the first lady was addressing the youths of Nigeria not Meghan so this has nothing to do with the guests coming into Nigeria. The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
Thanks for your input,but the First Lady knew the effect her speech would have. it’s not the first time she’s addressing this issue and I bet she never mention anything about life style in America before.Speaking about Meghan is not off limits but is how you insert her in the conversation.If it was a mistake she could have said something.
The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
Again enjoyed the live Weezy as always. You have the patience of a St. thank you for allowing open dialogue, but I don’t think you gave enough grace to the thought of the language barrier. No ma’am no offense taken here and I’m not trying to offend. Today was a good day to listen and observe.
I appreciate that
I enjoy your content I will see you in the next round! ♥️
She pointed Megan 😮why targeting Megan 😮this woman was very rude 😮 why pronouncing Megan name in the first place knowing that she would be drag every way
I agree to disagree
The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
@@Weezy39 You working hard to twist that lady's words but it won't work. We all heard it. being Nigerian does not mean being rude and we don't have to accept it. I've known Nigerians who were very respectful and didn't say the first thing that popped in their heads. No excuse whatsoever.
Wizzie, you've just contradicted your stand from yesterday. You said folks should be supporting H&M's friends when they're attacked. Now, you are saying folks with different POVs must be careful for what exactly? The slave comment is hard to understand. Mature folks must be able to have civilized conversations, opinions and debate vigourosly w/o being talked down to.
I understand that Mary frank but the FL didnot make any comments about slavery and the danger is doing exactly what the deranged want by alienating Harry and Meghan from supporters who they just getting to connect to just because we want them to be at the same point of support as the squad are. Joining the pile on when their innocent words are twisted out of proportion because some ill perceived wrong. The FL didnot mention slavery if you listen to the video she said, the culture is beautiful and people come home to experience the culture like Meghan.
@@Weezy39 You did. You asked if she was a slave when questioned.
@@Weezy39 You did. You asked if she was a slave when questioned.
@@maryfrank487 Yes, because people were saying that she should keep Meghan's name out of her mouth. And I asked the question about whether she was a slave because it's almost like we are saying that people should be afraid to reference Meghan in public in any way shape or form. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
Dr. Maya Angelou said folks never forget how one made them feel...originally. Folks are not that fatuous. Those who speak English as their 1st language are expressing how they received, understood and intepretted the Nigerian 1st lady's words and they're being 'accused' as not thinking with nuance & logically? Lord, Have Mercy. I'm getting so fraustrated at the gaslighting, intended or not. That is how I'm feeling now. I am not in agreement w/you. I'm sorry. I will leave it here & say thank you for your POVs.
That’s ok, that’s what discussion is all about. You don’t have to agree with me but I maintain my stand. I accused no one of nothing. The First Lady did not address Meghans dressing rather she referred to her one who has come home to experience her African culture because the culture had been preserved for her to meet to come
Home to meet it.
The first lady was not attacking Megan, she just didn't articulate her message well. She mentioned two things. 1,girls should embrace their culture. 2. People like Megan are trying to find their roots while the girls don't appreciate their culture. Northern Nigeria is predominantly Muslim, that's where most women cover up. Young women in the South dress like Megan especially in the present heatwave in Nigeria. It's sad that we are amplifying this for the derangers.
Exactly but I disagree that she didn’t articulate her point well.
It is sad. Hopefully this will all die down quickly. We can't forget that Love Wins!🥰
Oluremi displayed lack of situational awareness. Her choice of words were not warranted. That is the reason why they should stop rigging themselves into power and allow competent people to lead.
I disagree entirely
So did she need to go on and speak about this publicly.
But she did. Well she should have spoken about it before Maghan came or not associate her name in the same.
Knowing that the press is so vicious any reference to Meghan is going to be misinterpreted so regardless of her intention, she should have known it would have been more circumspect.
I agree she should clarify.
The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
Common Wizzy.
She may not have meant ill but I listened and I really felt people were going to associate what she was saying and come up with exactly what is being fought over..
She was a guest. If anything needed to be said she should have spoken to her.
Meghan deserves better.
I don't know your first lady well enough but it's not too much to clarify her point if she is misinterpreted.
@@Brahmill56 I think if she does it is because she has been bullied to do so which is a shame because all she said in summary was, young people stop copying other cultures, you are beautiful, your culture is rich and beautiful. So rich and beautiful that people return home to experience our rich culture like Meghan. What is there to clarify in that? What we are therefore effectively, saying is that anybody who would associate with Harry and Meghan must run away because if they say anything about Harry and Meghan is a casual context, they will get beaten up for it no matter how harmless their statement is. Knowing the situation they may be willing to accept this if they understand that this is coming from the ops, but what happens when it's the supporters of the person who you are supporting that are attacking you and forcing humiliation on you when you don't even need the relationship? How well do you think Harry and Meghan will do if isolated?
I got her point but she should have known . She is your FL. I think you decided to defend her but what we we have experienced when it comes to Meghan being hurt over and over by the simplest sneeze is heartbreaking.
@@Brahmill56 This is a sticking point for me. She should have known what? Not to mention Meghan's name in a sentence as an example of someone who came home to discover her roots. Because that is all she said in her reference to Meghan. The twist is media manipulation and how do you then blame the FL for media manipulation?
I understand your explanation. However, it sounded like one sentence hence the misinterpretation.
The reason why I am arguing so hard is because I think what adds to the misunderstanding is that we often hear things through the filter of our lived experiences. One thing you need to know about Nigerians is that they do not do shade. If we mean to say something negative, we will not skirt around it. We will come out and say it with our full chest. When she said, they don't know who they are, she was saying, African Americans don't know who they are as Africans, you have the culture you created for yourselves but it is not the original African culture. We can't apologise for being direct because that is something that is not going to change, that is Nigerian culture. She was not looking down on American culture so much as reminding the youths not to look down on their own culture in favour of another country's culture. She admonished them to preserve their own culture that was so good and rich that we have people coming back home all the time to reconnect with their roots. Case in point Meghan. That was the only way Meghan entered into the conversation.
No need to mention names it’s lesson ppl must learn.
Why should she not be able to mention Meghan's name without being accused of every crime under the sun including bribery, the way the SS is reacting to the medias manipulation of what the first lady said is what is actually causing the problem.
I love your channel, but I believe your first lady was talking about Meghan. She did not call out Meghans name but the reference made was about her. She could have made that speech on dress any time but this was a very bad time. Since Meghan had just left and she was very dressed for hot weather. I heard her speach and it was general about Nigerian women.
OK, but I have to disagree with you my dear. You can't infer what was not expressly stated and make someone liable for an inference. Meghan was only mentioned as someone who recently came home to discover her roots.
I’m a Nigerian,I’m really angry at the way you defend this woman.Isabelle Don’t defend this woman.you are talking like the rude way we talk at home.I am.Seventy Seven years old. If you don’t want to support Meghan,you can quit Shut Up your Mouth.
I am sorry that you are angry but I take exception to abuse. Open minded discussions ok, abuse no, no matter the age. Thank you for your comment. I maintain my stand.
@@simf9392 Neither does being a first lady make you a wise.. Older people seem to cut threw the chase is all. She can tell it like she sees it just like that tactless so called first lady did.
I listened to the speech 4ctimes. The problem is her wording. I understand what she was trying to say but that is only after filling in the blanks as you did. You and others keep saying "what she meant was". To use "American actress" as an example of inappropriate dressing and then follow that with Meghan's name appears as a slap at Meghan. If you have to fill in the blanks to arrive at what a person is trying to say then that person should not be speaking. Taking the first lady's statement as worded it sounds like an insult.
That's because you are listening to it as an American. Listening to it as a Nigerian and now explaining it to you as a Nigerian should have squashed any misunderstandings. To say that someone who has to explain their speech has no business speaking is exactly the kind of condescension that keeps the black Americans separate from the Africans. I maintain my stand. FL had nothing to apologise for as she only referenced Meghan as someone who came to Nigeria to discover her roots.
@Weezy39 There is no misunderstanding on my part. I gave her the benefit of the doubt and assumed she was not disparaging Meghan. I never said an apology was needed. My point is that words have impact. We should not have to try and decipher what a public official is trying to say or mean. Also, why does it have to be you, Nigerians, vs us, Americans? Americans aren't the only ones who interpreted her statement as a dig at Meghan. You won't even look at her words objectively and see how they could be seen as derogatory. I get it. You are defending your FL. Let's just agree to disagree. Thank you for the interaction.
@@beco13131 I am being objective. I maintain my stand as I am allowed to do. It become a regional affair due to the fact that the misunderstanding is as a result of a clash of cultures. I agree that we should agree to disagree.
Well we see how people dress in Noliihood films so what she says is BULLSHIT !!!
No actually it is not considering that she was admonishing ladies in Nigeria which would include the ladies in the nollywood industry. BTW she never criticised Meghans dressing.
One of the rules of Comprehension...Make it as clear as possible. When one is explaining, one is losing. When the 1st lady of Nigeria speaks many pay attention. She must have a press secretary and her words are supposed to be official documents. Diplomacy and explicite communications are what govts do. It is not a Squaddie disagreement when the ambiguity of poorly phrased statements are made by the wife of the Pres of Nigeria. Clarifications are required when words are misinterpretted. Opinions are not facts. Hence, the owness is on the 1st lady of Nigeria.
That’s ok, Mary Frank, however i find your comments extremely condescending to the First Lady. She does not need to explain herself because for those who want to listen and hear it, her statements were very clear.
@@Weezy39 Nope. Ur opinion. I disagree 1001%. Public servant she is, right?
@@maryfrank487 She is indeed a public servant however she should only be held liable for crimes she has committed. She did not refer to Meghan's dressing. She only referred to her as an example of one who has come to Nigeria to discover her rich Nigerian culture which she was urging the young Nigerian ladies to preserve.
I've listened to the whole speech. I don't think she was attacking Meghan, but her speech was not projected well. To me, like a run-on statements. Should have gotten help from a speech writer as English is not her first language. A lost in translation in her speech. Now, the derangers are running with it.
I disagree entirely. The FL didnot attack Meghan in any shape or form. She only reference who had. One to Nigeria her roots. We as a squad should be pushing back knowing the truth of what the FL was trying to say.
Wasteof time hier !!!!!
Sorry,I beg to differ. She has the intelligence to know what has been going on in the palace and how everything gets twisted.This woman lacks wisdom, she shouldn’t have mentioned Meghan’s name, she should have ended the speech after using film stars as an example. She shouldn’t have mentioned her name! I don’t know if the issue is related to the fact that English is not her first language. One more thing, I think you are being emotional. SHE SHOULDN’T HAVE MENTIONED MEGHAN’S NAME.
That is incorrect and i disagree with entirely.
When you have to go all caps, you're losing the argument.🥰
@@Weezy39 It appears you are contradicting yourself. You mentioned that people could use Meghan’s name anyhow and now you have concluded that my comment is incorrect and you disagree entirely. I repeat - based on the fact that Meghan wasn’t part of the audience, the act of diplomacy requires that you don’t bring someone you haven’t met into a conversation/speech - this is the reason why this conversation is all over social media. She was wrong to use Meghan’s name.PERIOD
@@carmensplacebeauty😂😂😂😂😂I went all Caps because she was defending what wasn’t worth defending. I just don’t agree with the way she was defending the FL. I can’t tell you all that I am aware of regarding this Harry and Meghan situation (due to the nature of my job) . The woman I repeat should have chosen her words carefully.
@@henpal2628 I disagree entirely and I think I am allowed to do that. One thing for certain is that having listened to the video, I saw that she only referenced Meghan as someone whom she has seen or heard recently came to Nigeria to discover the rich Nigerian heritage which she is advising the young ladies to preserve.
She is not Nigerian now, I am amazed and amused by your opinion. Her ancestors have been in the US for over 500 years. Please sit down, I am a supporter of Harry and Meghan. I completely disagree with your opinion.
She remains 43% Nigerian whether her ancestors have been in America for 500 years or not. Anyway, that’s fine. We can agree to disagree and I agree with you entirely.
Bye Girl. No bad energy. Stay positive. I won’t waste my time over the FL of Nigeria. Bye
@@henpal2628 No bad energy. You don't need to waste your time over the FL of Nigeria but I think this kind of attitude is what has separated black America from africans over the ages. Anyways thank you for participating in a healthy debate. Have a great day.
Learning Lesson:
As a Meghan fan, i will ride with her til the end of time. However, i personally found Meghan 's wardrobe off on this Nigerian visit. None of her outfits were inappropriate overall but not timely for the specific events. We all have our sense of style, and it's hard to leave our comfort zone. Meghan herself said she got the memo to add color 😅 which was a small part of the critique. I am sure in hindsight Meghan will take this experience and dress in deference to the host country that she is visiting. ❤❤❤ i dont care what derangers are saying we are all mature enough to admit when we can do better. The Nigerian First Lady had every right to raise the topic of dress and culture 👏🏼 🙌 I don't believe she meant offense to anyone. Her thoughts and love of Nigeria are foremost on her mind. With such an important subject, I only wished she could find clearer words for us simple people in the back ❤❤❤.
I watched your podcast from a observation point. I listened to the First Ladies words and many will always go against anyone who sounds like they are talking negatively about Meghan. I am no longer a squaddie because things have gotten almost cult like. You either do and say what the majority of group wants or you will be hated from the group. I like Harry & Meghan, however, if you are a believer of Christ, be careful. Many supporters of Harry & Meghan have fallen into worshipping the couple and have elevated, especially Meghan above God the Father & His Son, Jesus. I have commented on several channels, based on some of the content creators & squads behavior and their words, to be careful and do not worship Harry & Meghan. God will not give His glory to anyone, especially when we didn't wake ourselves up. When I hear words describing Meghan as angelic, lifting her above the clouds, & she can do nothing wrong in their sight is not good. Also when a content creator says they won't forgive a person because of something they believe is against Harry & Meghan this is also a danger to their salvation, especially if the content creator(s) are also asking the squad to keep Harry & Meghan in prayer. There is to much hate in the squad against other squad members. After hearing the podcast today, this is why many former squaddies have left. You were on point today, and you were sound on your points, but if someone continuous to hear a speech and declare it's something different and convince the minds of the majority group, regardless of facts, this is not the Sussex Squad but a Cult.
If I could like your comment a thousand times over, I would. Thank you for seeing things clearly.
The First Lady of Nigeria must then be one of the most inarticulate public speakers. Whether she intended to or not she nuanced Meghan's dressing by commenting on Met Gala, American actresses (why not Nollywood actresses which could have been more contextual than American to the audience she was addressing), and then Meghan coming to Nigeria to find her roots! She has to be the least informed person to not know how Meghan's dressing on the first day of the trip when she wore the bare back dress was being talked about especially amongst the hateful BP. By the way she is showing her neck in the picture in your podcast and the one in the speech she gave...that is showing skin, too! Anyway I do not buy it that she was not making a swipe at Meghan. It was very unkind of her to disparage a mother while supposedly uplifting other mothers! It is ironic how folk are so selectively offended...Meghan's dressing showing back and arms and comparing Nigerians to Nazis...go figure!
That is incorrect. That's ok, we will agree to disagree then. She never used Meghan as an example of how not to dress but rather as an example of someone who has come back to rediscover her roots and beautiful Nigerian ancestry.
@@Weezy39I hear you. Someone once told me that we all have filters through which communication flows. People can listen to the same speech and hear different things...and then there is the analysis of what was meant and so forth...since the first Lady is not here to tell us what she meant or that what we heard is not what she meant we are left in a conundrum. We disagree respectfully! Shalom!🙏🏾
@@maryannemorris2841 Actually, the diference is that most people who are reacting differently to what the FL said are American, I am Nigerian and I am explaining what the FL said to you as a Nigerian. When an explanation is given, and people choose to remain hurt by ill perceived notions, it becomes a deliberate decision to be offended by a nonoffense.
She was bribed by Charlie boy and Peggy Willy😂. Or She is just jelousy Princess Meghan Got a lot of attention 😜
Oh not she is not listen the video again.
I don't join the Sussex Squad because they have made H and M their gods.
Then don’t join. We are alright with or without you.