Portables exemption UPDATE with NEW download Legal text from EU TAXUD official link NEW Feb 24
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- HI everyone
A follow up to my video of last week and mucho thanks to Dave from MU for sending this on today . Page 54 on the official document now includes the paragraph .....
NB This information does not constitute legal or immigration advice. It is accurate at the time of publication but may be subject to change without our prior knowledge.
"Musical instruments carried by travellers, whether for professional or personal use,can be declared for temporary admission by simply going through the green or‘nothing to declare’ channel once they arrive in the customs territory of the Unionfrom a third country/territory. In the case of accessories such as an amplifier or amicrophone, as these items would be required to make the instrument produce a sound, they would be eligible for temporary admission as ‘musical instruments’, provided such accessories are carried by the traveller together with the musical
instrument"
EDIT NEW LINK Feb 2024 : ( please note previous link published no longer valid and now updated ) please DO let me know if this does not work in future ) The page number you need is page 54 !
LINK : taxation-custo...
So there you have it .. but REMEMBER , anything other than this are in a grey area such as pedal boards etc . Plus please remember this that you MUST accompany your own instruments not use a carrier as this invalidates this advice ..
Link I've posted before to UK Statutory instrument ( Law )
www.legislatio...
Great to see it in the updated regs. Thanks for sharing and lobbying on our behalf :-)
good news. Keep up the good work, Ian !
Amazing, thanks so much!!
THANK YOU
What excuse can they possibly have for not being aware of it? This can have such an effect on people's real lives, they should be duty bound to know the ins and outs of their job.
The problem is that as in all things governmental especially when official advice changes is that it takes a while to filter through … which is why I always advise having proof with you. I know for an absolute fact one band used this and the download to get through customs in Dieppe this weekend by showing the relevant page as noted … it’s the world we work in unfortunately;-)
@@UkEuropeartsworkINFO for my sins, I did once work for Customs and Excise (as was). Information gets to the coal face pretty slowly. That's by no means exclusive to the civil service.
@@Groovemeister Totally this .. and why I always try to explain its never instantaneous .. patience is vital .. :-)
Hi Ian. Thank you for the updates and the sterling work you do sir! One thought... is it the same criteria on returning to the UK if challenged by UK customs ?
Excellent news., Would you think (I do note the 'think') this would apply to the bag of leads/spares - strings etc?
Hi Steve .. its a grey area but if only strings and leads etc .. I 'Think" this would normally work for you .. but it is down to the customs official you meet ..
@@UkEuropeartsworkINFO Thank you. Appreciate your thoughts (pretty much my own conclusion).
Thank you. I'm trying to put together my bands first ever europe tour and it all has my brain scrambled. Does this cover all music equipment and merch? or are there any other certifications i'd need to look into? like insurance, etc?
Also we are a uk based band going into the eu
Merch is totally seperate as goods for sale .. so nothing at all to do with equipment check the other vids on the channel for this .. sorry just saw this as Ive been in hospital
Does it make any difference if you hire the splitter van as opposed to owning it - the hire company is claiming we need to have a carnet solely because the van is hired.
Its a grey area .. think I already had discussion with you on this ? if not let me know and I'll reply in depth here
cheers
You did. I've since been in touch with the Chamber of Commerce and it comes down to whether or not you come across an awkward border officer. Technically if the instruments are in your vehicle and accompanied you don't need a carnet, however the officer could decide that "portable" means only what you can carry in one go and would then insist on a carnet for the rest. The advice was to allow the rules to bed in for a while and see what happens 😅😅 how insane.
The hiring/owning of the splitter van is irrelevant.
@@TheGuitarDoctor I think the problem here is if the officer deems this to be commercially transported goods and if hired rather than owned might veer towards an interpretation of the rules differently good luck fella and let me know how you get on
@@UkEuropeartsworkINFOexactly what the chamber of commerce came out with and as it's such a grey area, a carnet was sorted. It caused a long delay last night but eventually got through and onto the train. Their advice was to let the new rules bed in and see how they're interpreted...you couldn't make it up.
If a band is in a car/van coming through Euro Tunnel from EU to UK is this classed as carrying the instruments with you? Carnet not needed?
Hi guys ... its arguable .. but must be accompanied by owners and not via "carriage" the rules specifically state walk through customs .. but a lot of wriggle room ..
Sorry for asking another stupid question 😂
My band and I have a van, converted to a minibus, we have been asked to play in Holland (5 band members) the vehicle is carrying 3 guitars, full drum kit, keyboards, guitar and bass cabs and heads, do we need a carnet? Or is it luck of the drawer on whoever is facing us at the Green nothing to declare entrance? I’m so confused 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Hi .. you "should" be covered by the exemption where to be exact this is what it says about instruments AND amplification "Musical instruments carried by travellers:
Musical instruments carried by travellers, whether for professional or personal use, can be declared for temporary admission by simply going through the green or ‘nothing to declare’ channel once they arrive in the customs territory of the Union from a third country/territory. In the case of accessories such as an amplifier or a microphone, as these items would be required to make the instrument produce a sound, they would be eligible for temporary admission as ‘musical instruments’, provided such accessories are carried by the traveller together with the musical instrument.
There is no definition in the UCC of what ‘professional purposes’ or ‘professional equipment’ is. In any case, musicians can declare the musical instruments, either considered as professional equipment or not, carried in their luggage for temporary admission by going through the green or ‘nothing to declare’ channel once they arrive in the EU" this is from page 54 of the guidance : Ian
download the doc above and in particular - page 54 but be sure to include the cover sheet of the doc .. this link czcams.com/users/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbS1FQ3lFejRzTUJSR0V5R2RtbEhUTmdYR3dRQXxBQ3Jtc0tuRndrNGNYM2pRTWRTVWlyUEN3MkNRVVdNUTk0bUNXdzhVRlNZc2oweEJwOFFYc0JwbTJXOGx2cXZnS3dLdkhOLXlHSFVwemU4TGFhRzJtY3JTV2VNbnVQb3hEdl90QmEtb2RscW5MdGVxZUJaWk5Jbw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftaxation-customs.ec.europa.eu%2Fdocument%2Fdownload%2F1bdaa892-93fe-4809-93e7-7ead3ea5ebb0_en&v=FSzelR8A1pU
@@UkEuropeartsworkINFO okay brilliant! I’ll print off page 54 and the cover sheet, do we need to also print off every make and model of instrument ? Or can we just put someat like this
1: 3 x guitars and stands
2: 2 x keyboards
3: keyboard stand
4: electric guitar amplifier and cabinet
5: bass guitar amplifier and cabinet
6: 4 x vocal microphones
Personally I’d not list them as officially ( really ) the stands would require a carnet under these regs … simply and truthfully say you are using the exemption if stopped and show them the EU Reg’s document
@@UkEuropeartsworkINFO I just have this nasty feeling that either going from UK through customs and then arriving in France and then doing the same on the way back from the gig, which is 4 x times of entry and exit, someone at some customs point (French or English) is gonna try and stitch us up and ignore the things I print off on a “technicality” as we are carrying small stands and full Backline… I guess I’ll take the risk in our minibus with the 5 of us
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