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Hi there ... the regulations regarding passport validity are the same for all, regardless of settlement status, as far as I am aware.

@@UkEuropeartsworkINFO I mean being an EU citizen

Its a grey area .. think I already had discussion with you on this ? if not let me know and I'll reply in depth here cheers

You did. I've since been in touch with the Chamber of Commerce and it comes down to whether or not you come across an awkward border officer. Technically if the instruments are in your vehicle and accompanied you don't need a carnet, however the officer could decide that "portable" means only what you can carry in one go and would then insist on a carnet for the rest. The advice was to allow the rules to bed in for a while and see what happens 😅😅 how insane.

The hiring/owning of the splitter van is irrelevant.

@@TheGuitarDoctor I think the problem here is if the officer deems this to be commercially transported goods and if hired rather than owned might veer towards an interpretation of the rules differently good luck fella and let me know how you get on

​@@UkEuropeartsworkINFOexactly what the chamber of commerce came out with and as it's such a grey area, a carnet was sorted. It caused a long delay last night but eventually got through and onto the train. Their advice was to let the new rules bed in and see how they're interpreted...you couldn't make it up.

Yes more being added later and eventually its supposed to be all countries

Hi .. you "should" be covered by the exemption where to be exact this is what it says about instruments AND amplification "Musical instruments carried by travellers: Musical instruments carried by travellers, whether for professional or personal use, can be declared for temporary admission by simply going through the green or ‘nothing to declare’ channel once they arrive in the customs territory of the Union from a third country/territory. In the case of accessories such as an amplifier or a microphone, as these items would be required to make the instrument produce a sound, they would be eligible for temporary admission as ‘musical instruments’, provided such accessories are carried by the traveller together with the musical instrument. There is no definition in the UCC of what ‘professional purposes’ or ‘professional equipment’ is. In any case, musicians can declare the musical instruments, either considered as professional equipment or not, carried in their luggage for temporary admission by going through the green or ‘nothing to declare’ channel once they arrive in the EU" this is from page 54 of the guidance : Ian

download the doc above and in particular - page 54 but be sure to include the cover sheet of the doc .. this link czcams.com/users/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbS1FQ3lFejRzTUJSR0V5R2RtbEhUTmdYR3dRQXxBQ3Jtc0tuRndrNGNYM2pRTWRTVWlyUEN3MkNRVVdNUTk0bUNXdzhVRlNZc2oweEJwOFFYc0JwbTJXOGx2cXZnS3dLdkhOLXlHSFVwemU4TGFhRzJtY3JTV2VNbnVQb3hEdl90QmEtb2RscW5MdGVxZUJaWk5Jbw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftaxation-customs.ec.europa.eu%2Fdocument%2Fdownload%2F1bdaa892-93fe-4809-93e7-7ead3ea5ebb0_en&v=FSzelR8A1pU

@@UkEuropeartsworkINFO okay brilliant! I’ll print off page 54 and the cover sheet, do we need to also print off every make and model of instrument ? Or can we just put someat like this 1: 3 x guitars and stands 2: 2 x keyboards 3: keyboard stand 4: electric guitar amplifier and cabinet 5: bass guitar amplifier and cabinet 6: 4 x vocal microphones

Personally I’d not list them as officially ( really ) the stands would require a carnet under these regs … simply and truthfully say you are using the exemption if stopped and show them the EU Reg’s document

@@UkEuropeartsworkINFO I just have this nasty feeling that either going from UK through customs and then arriving in France and then doing the same on the way back from the gig, which is 4 x times of entry and exit, someone at some customs point (French or English) is gonna try and stitch us up and ignore the things I print off on a “technicality” as we are carrying small stands and full Backline… I guess I’ll take the risk in our minibus with the 5 of us 😒

Hi the answer is a little complicated and depends on your husbands citizenship not residency status. The island of Ireland is part of the CTA common travel area for the UK and Ireland. However the RoI is of course EU. Can you drop me a reply with his citizenship and I’m happy to check his status as a citizen of whichever country he is of! ;-)

Okay but i was told with irish embasy also if he holds residency article 50 brexit withdrawal it is fine without a visa this is what i found on the immigration.ie According to the information I found, a third country national who is not from the European Union states, but holds a residence permit under article 50 Brexit as a spouse in Portugal, should be able to travel to Ireland from Portugal without a visa. However, they must carry a valid passport and a valid residence card, including a permanent residence card, and present them at the border?. They may also need to comply with the current rules for travelling to Ireland, such as filling out a Passenger Locator Form and having a negative COVID-19 test result.

I am getting different answers from so many different professionals 😢

Hiya thats the essence of the problem that there is inconsistency in the advice on official govt sites .. I cannot give official immigration advice but The problem is that once he enters Ireland he could potentially enter the UK mainland from Ireland but as a visa national he would require a visa to enter. He would have no right under immigration rules to enter the UK mainland as a third country national with EU residency. I would if I were you ask the embassy to reply to you in writing confirming what you have been told and have that with you when entering Ireland. @@jasminbegum9422

Hi Jasmina I just realised you used a commercial non Irish govt website try this instead www.gov.ie/en/service/e1607-information-for-travel-into-ireland-from-another-eu-country/#family-members-who-are-not-union-citizens and note this on the page which is relevent in your case possible. More details available in our cookie and privacy policies. Information for travel into Ireland from another EU country From Department of Foreign Affairs Published on 7 December 2020 Last updated on 22 April 2021 Because Ireland is not a part of the Schengen Agreement - all EU citizens entering Ireland will be required to present a passport or a valid national identity card. THE IMPORTANT BIT. All non-EU citizens must show their passports any time they cross Irish borders. Non-EU travellers may need a visa. . @begum9422

Hi there no sorry the concession route is only for non visa nationals

Hi there, sorry just saw this .. I cannot give immigration advice sorry but I can tell you that in the UK a passport needs to be valid for the duration of any visit

Hi guys ... its arguable .. but must be accompanied by owners and not via "carriage" the rules specifically state walk through customs .. but a lot of wriggle room ..

Sorry only just saw this Hector as Ive been away on medical adventure .. hope it worked out ok

Were you able to go or no. Did you face any issues . I am facing the same issue and I don’t know about the 6 month validity rule.if you could help me out

Sorry thats way outside what I advise on ..

Also we are a uk based band going into the eu

Your visa will allow you to work within the category it was first listed as and in line with your original CoS … you must on re-entry get another stamp in your passport and of course inform your sponsor of any work planned. Was the new work you have planned already known by the sponsor?

@@UkEuropeartsworkINFO now I dont have any sponsor

@@UkEuropeartsworkINFO Thank you. Appreciate your thoughts (pretty much my own conclusion).

If a third county non visa national then its a maximum of 180 in 360 .. but your passport must be valid for the entrie period you ar in the UK ( Sorry been away on medical adventure thus just back )

The problem is that as in all things governmental especially when official advice changes is that it takes a while to filter through … which is why I always advise having proof with you. I know for an absolute fact one band used this and the download to get through customs in Dieppe this weekend by showing the relevant page as noted … it’s the world we work in unfortunately;-)

@@UkEuropeartsworkINFO for my sins, I did once work for Customs and Excise (as was). Information gets to the coal face pretty slowly. That's by no means exclusive to the civil service.

@@Groovemeister Totally this .. and why I always try to explain its never instantaneous .. patience is vital .. :-)

Hi at the moment I know that EU were asked to include transported by vehicle but was not included in the advice ... so at the moment that would be in the discretion of the customs officer on duty .. sorry cant be clearer we have this and would hope we can move further along the line .. Ian

@@UkEuropeartsworkINFO so....is it fair to suggest you are saying that.... if you fly in or out of the EU or UK with portable musical instruments and equipment or travel on Eurostar or a bus you’re in the clear and don’t need a carnet …but if you travel in your own private vehicle such as a car or tour bus or splitter van up to 3.5 tons with windows down the side it’s "at the discretion of the customs officer?" So travelling in your own vehicle means ATA Carnet unless you risk “discretion of customs officer” but planes, or bus or Eurostar or on foot no ATA Carnet? Just want to be clear about what you are saying. I think the clarification is great news, some progress...with thanks to Dave and yourself...but we still have a major issue with ATA Carnet requirements as far as crossing the border in your own vehicle or a private hire vehicle up to 3.5 tons or via Tourbus.

Hi Dai .. correct and also true of EU side .. carrying within a vehicle ( of any sort ) isn't currently in the advice though I know it was requested .. we would hope to get this along the way .. we have progress but oh so much more to do ..