Drag Race | Ristretto 512 vs Super-73 RX
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- čas přidán 4. 10. 2023
- In today's video, we're comparing two highly requested e-bikes: the Ristretto 512 and the Super-73 RX. In this showdown, we put these 2 bikes head-to-head to compare torque and acceleration in a drag race.
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You really don't get a lot for what you pay with Super 73. All show no go!!!
Causes super73 was the first ones to make the scrambler style popular..and competitors came in
I have seen this happen before. Companies sell a good ebike. Not enough competition so they stay stagnant . I believe the Sur-Ron is in the same boat. Well a lot of competition came along now , upping the game of performance vs value and these other companies did not advance along with them. Both Sur-Ron and super 73 are great if you put in extra thousands into them. but the problem is much of the new competition are coming out of the box with much better over all performance. While using quality parts.
@jimjr9143 you do realise Super73 are bringing out a motorbike so don't think stagnant is the word
More videos PLEASE RANGE VIDEO WOULD BE AMAZING 😅
For sure a full range test for both throttle and pedal assist would be dope. Or I'll just test it myself when the bike ships in a few months lol
Hell yea brodie, been waiting for this one. Quality up there as usual 🙌🏾
Much more to come! Let me know if there’s anything specific you want shown
Finally another drop! Been waiting patiently. 512 all day! Super73 only looks nice. Top speed video next! Thanks for the upload Nick.
A proper video showing off top speed is currently in the works!
👍 Absolutely I would love to see a top speed run and how fast it gets to top speed
This just shows how much super 73 are so over priced, I admit they got that scambler/crosser look, but it's not in the same ball park as the 512, and the top speed will be just the same, leave the 73 in its wake. Loved the short video
Always admired the Super 73, heck almost got an RX on sale $2700 shipped. At the time compared the Surron light bee, ultra bee, rev 1, etc. The differences between the 512 & most e-bikes is customization/modification abilities being more achievable on most frames.
That’s not a bad thing, if you don’t mind staying at where the 512 is & not changing, it’s good.
The 512 is a decent offering; however, it’s a later offering in a fast evolving segment.
If you’re going to get the 512, do it, but immediately get sign off of SM & be happy with your purchase.
Excellent power, speed and it looks fantastic compared to many others. I'm so tempted to getting this one. I would customize the heck out of it!
with black Friday around the corner I'm sure they'll put out at 15% or even a 20% coupon out there. Just can't beat it at the lower end of $3k.
He definitely wasn’t catching up. Dude was braking 😂😂😂
I need to get my hands on a Ristretto !
If you're ever in the Austin TX area, feel free to reach out for a test drive!
Super73 needs to get off their ass and start to innovate once again like they first did. You can only ride the hype train for so long before you get dethroned, which is exactly what's about to happen when the 512 comes on the scene!
You hear that Super73? It's the wind gust of the 512 blowing by you!
I think the 73 was dethroned long time ago when it comes too overall tests, they are completely trash on hills , even there malibu which was there latest version are useless on any kind of hills. Over priced over hyped ebikes, only distinction 73 has they were probabley the founders of recent years of the re-appearance of ebikes. I will give them the scrambler looking king, but I so prefer the 512 in all areas, plus when it come too top speed the 512 will be in the distance and it look like the 73 has not even got off the line, in my opnion of course
What are the internal dimentions of the cargo box? Can you put a motorcycle helmet in it?
At what percentage does the acceleration lag hit?
Need an in depth review of this bike
We made one! Check the video description for the link
Yeah I road one of them 73s a week ago seems like it took 2 football field to get up to 33 mph on their semi deluxe one. I asked for an acceleration test for the 512 a few days ago and I got it, thank you.
S73 overpriced for what you get. It only looks nice. Gotta upgrade the motor and controller if you want any real performance.
you actually hit 33mph on flat ground and throttle only?
do you guys have any locations in the bay area ca for test drive
At the moment the only test drive location is in Austin, TX
Is the frame of the A20 and A24 the same size? Lets say I got an A20, could I replace the wheels with the 24s as I grow? Also I would like to know if you prefer the A20 or A24, is the A20 comfortable for pedaling?
If you have a moment, go check out my 1st video where I go talk about the differences of them. Also Ristretto has both dimension sheets on their website if you'd like to look more into it. Personally I went with the A24 being 6'0. With the a20 being slightly easier to pedal
Can't believe people are still buying Sucker 73,
# fac
I first checked out super 73 . 3 months ago. $4300 48v 20ah battery. 750watts . I had to read that a few times to verify i read it right. Just, no way. Now yes it has some quite good parts but very short range. All e-bike companies exaggerate range. 48v 20ah will not get you far. Now compare what you get with this Ristretto. Now, to me the battery is still small. My $4000 scooter uses a quality 72v 40ah pack but still i think i would prefer to get my money back so i could buy this. No can do as all money went to the scooter.
The guy said on the drag race he was catching up, errr no you weren't he had too slow down on the 512 because ran out of road at the end, plus the guy on the 73 was pedalling virtually all the way too try and give it leg torque. If this was a proper race the ristretto be out on the wasteland while the 73 be still on the tarmac eating the ristretto dust. S73 crap, they come out with different models using old stock componants but when it comes too the power of the bike they never changing the record, it's still the same old battery/controller and motor. And I think they do this is because they sell them for there appearance of the bike and knowing lots of customers of S73 upgrade them anyway, so it takes the burden off changing the power aspect of the 73 and let the customer take care of that side of it. S73 are way way over priced, if I made comparisons of 73s too other bikes by what they are capable of I price the RX there top model around the $2800 I really would and that's being generous. Ristretto v S73, no match what so ever, and that goes for other bikes much cheaper than 73s, can get other scrambler/moped like ebikes for half the price of S73s and they too would break S73s back for performance. S73 for hill climbing are useless, terrible too.
We want..good speed..great range..good price😊
Are we expecting to get it before Thanksgiving?
Hi, Ristretto came out and said they’re looking at early December. So it’ll most likely be shortly after thanksgiving. No official date has been confirmed
I was debating between these two brands. And that Ristretto bike looks bad ass.
debating? bruh!
Debating? You been diving deep on the knowledge and weighing up the differences huh? Tough call between a shit bike with no torque or speed, and the Ristretto that does 40mph 😂
What is required to remove the battery? Are there thumbscrews through the bottom or just a key and slide out?
just a key to lock/unlock and slides out. It's a massive battery (30A) so it's heavy but comes with a handle so you can easily lift/carry it etc.
Nothing is required other than the key! Once unlocked, you can push the battery up and it automatically comes out
Can you confirm that A) the RX was in Mode 4 and B) it has the torque update firmware?
I definitely believe the Ristretto is faster but I want to understand the true margin.
Hey! Yes, both bikes firmware were up to date. Both bikes were also on the max level in street mode (s73 being level 4 & Ristretto being level 3)
Is the seat height the same as the Super73 RX? Can it be lowered for a shorter rider?
the seat height is not adjustable. they have two frames A20 and A24. As a shorter rider you'd want the A20 which is for people up to 6'. As for height comparison just pause the video and you'll get an idea side by side.
I think the A20 you see in this video are 805cm seat height from the floor and the bigger A24 which has 24 inch wheels as this bike has 20 inch wheels, has a seat too floor height of 820cm
Oh man loving that off the line torque!
Would be nice to know the 0-20 time
I’m in the works with a performance test video. I’ll do my best to implement something like it
@@RistrettoSquadra Great! And maybe you can use a GPS app too, so the speeds are most accurate.
@@BisonPirate look at his review video he did in the past and you can clearly figure out 0-20 or 0-30 etc. only thing unknown that hasn't been seen yet is 0-40 which my guess was 7-8sec and the co-founder also guessed the same.
@@ashegamgreat idea ! I went back and it looks like about:
0-20 ~low 4’s
0-30 ~ high 7’s
Of course still don’t know how accurate the speedo is, not unusual for them to be off 1-3 mph
Depends on battery percentage.
and dont forget about the REVV1up ! by RIDE1
I will try to do more comparisons featuring other bikes 👍
Revv1 up doesn’t matter..the motor in here is a very powerful mid drive cyc motor..it’ll beat any of those hub drive bikes..
This is more surron/talaria territory
yo plz do a vid where u go to the track and hit some jumps, I wanna see how much air you can get on this thing! XDDD
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I will do my best to get something like that. There's a video on here that was released by Ristretto recently. Search up "Ristretto 512 Hong Kong Vlog"
@@RistrettoSquadra yes also do a sky diving video with it, I want to see the drag coefficient of this and how fast it reaches terminal velocity.
Bike looks fantastic but the seat looks thin and uncomfortable, how does it feel in your opinion?
They did a redesign with more cushion and support for the production models. I have a video on it coming soon. The new seats are thicker, softer and feel way better on longer rides
@@RistrettoSquadra yes please release a video of the redesigned seat cushion. I am very near to purchasing the bike, but comfortability is what keeping me from committing.
What's the top speed on the 512?
In street mode it’s 28mph, but it has a race mode that’s designed for private property which it can go up to 40mph when activated
Does the 512 make the typical ratcheting/buzz sound like on a normal bike from the rear hub when coasting?
Hi, yes the coasting ambience is similar to a normal bike. Although the ticking sound is fairly quiet
BAC2000 controller and a battery installed on the RX and it’s game over
I really want to order this bike, but my money was stolen by Bandit bikes and I have been struggling to get it back. Hopefully I can get my money back though a fraud complaint with my credit card company and order this in time to still get the discount. Sucks I have been waiting since early July to get my bandit X pro, but I guess they decided to rip off all their Canadian customers. As for super 73, I have been trying to get their grizzly tires for 6 months for my rx. They sent me one for the back , but say I can't get the other - they are staggered in size, till next year. My old tires are not usable. Been fun times for me in the ebike world
how tall are you?
6'0 roughly 188 lbs
The people that work for Super 73 are trash! Horrible company. Don't get ripped off. Stay away. Just awful people all around.
The super 73 is slow as shit lol
not if you spend another $2-3k, on top the $4k you paid for the bike, and upgrade the battery, controller, and the motor. After all it's only fair to spend $7k to come close to a $3k Ristretto ;)
Compare to a surron
Haha I'll see what I can do
@@RistrettoSquadra🎉
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Super73 is quiet, that motor noise from the cyc motor gets annoying i know i have several!
That's just how it is between hub motor vs mid-drive motor though. Hub is silent and mid drive is loud. I love that mid drive is loud though. Just a personal preference.
@vincetheveganprince being quiet also means you draw less attention, in areas cracking down on ebikes that are over 750 watts. I'd rather be quiet!
@@k04s4 I guess I mean it's not obnoxiously loud. If anyone hears you fly by it will be for a second and you're gone. Nothing like a gas bike.
@@k04s4 the bike has different modes, and comes as class 2, so you will have zero issues. There is nothing to crack down with this bike. Now if you like it quiet, then this is not the bike for you, pretty simple.
@@ashegam I don't think the video demonstrates the sound of the motor. It's not like they will let you return it after because of the noise.
After tons of hype, Ristretto 512 . Has to prove itself .... that seat does not look comfortable for long rides
Again with another seat comment. That's not the final production seat and if it's still not comfy then change it. So many other company's stock seats suck for longer ride.
@@vincetheveganprince in fairness Vince, when you spend $4k on a bike, it’s should be a turnkey product that rides comfortably. I haven’t received my 512 yet, but I am expecting a comfortable ride.
@TheoriginalLuke Please do an honest review . If and when you receive your 512. His response was unprofessional for what appears to be a reputable company.
@@7sonero7 Hi, I would like to clarify that Vince is a customer who test rode a 512 here in Austin. He is not an employee of Ristretto.
Regarding the saddle, Ristretto has already done a redesign. Production Models will ship with an extra inch of cushion.
The seat shown in this video isn’t the updated version. Hope this helps 👍
@@7sonero7 I don't work for Ristretto. I was just saying upgraded seats are normal even if you spent 4k. I had a Sur Ron and I upgraded the seat. I am, going to reupholster mine for sure. The issue with the stock seat has already been addressed as Nick mentioned. They just haven't shown it on the bike yet.
Nice looking but the range sucks
it's higher then 99% of stock performance ebikes out there, so it's actually amazing.
Range sucks?, so you want a bike to do over 45 miles on throttle only and you do that everyday do you?, people with motorbikes don't do anything like that everyday, I suggest you buy a motorbike then fella, but you forgetting one big aspect of ebikes, they still a bicycle with it's own power propelled aspect of them, and ebikes were made too help people when they get tired or cannot propel a bicycle under there own power and using peddle assist too help, you need a motorbike
There are e bikes out there that get much better range than this. Customizing is fun yes, and available. Depending on the use, longer range isn’t for everyone. I don’t need a motor bike, I’ve had them for years. I understand what e bikes are built for. I appreciate the comment. Have a great day
Usually at this price range you will see 60v minimum. My $4000 scooter is 72v 40ah. Battery in this is only 52v 30ah . Selling the battery for $1100 . That’s a lot of money for a small pack. Now, cannot compare to a super 73 as everyone knows stock they are the slowest under powered for there price point , purposely making this Ristretto look crazy fast.
On the other hand i do like this e-bike a lot and actually wish i could afford it. The mid drive motor is what tends to drive up the price of this. 60v 30ah minimum would make it just right i think and get far more to buy. Do not take my thoughts as negative as i would buy it if i had the funds
At those speeds not wearing gear is totally irresponsible.
It's not, when I was a kid I was always out on my bike never wore anything for safety and at time I be doing 30mph on my road bike, nothing ever happen too me or my mates and I was on the road alot, I believe western world become a nanny state, all it is about is selling gear, they don't give a monkeys if you get hurt or not they the company's as everything these times is about selling and promoting gear for safety
Who cares… you’re not the one in those situations