A Brief History of: The Love Canal (Short Documentary)

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  • @Matt_History
    @Matt_History Před 4 lety +2998

    The crazy crap here is that the chemical company was actually trying to warn them not to build on it but the city did anyway. Not everyday the company is the... Umm... The semi responsible party

    • @tekelupharsin4426
      @tekelupharsin4426 Před 4 lety +727

      Hooker Chemical 1) Followed all state and federal laws. 2) Were threatened with losing the property by eminent domain if they didn't sell it to the city. 3) Decided to get a waiver of liability and give the property to the city for $1. 4) Warned the city not to build on the site or disturb the clay containment system. Yet the company still got their ass handed to them. It's government incompetence at its finest. Had the city not disturbed the clay containment system, the site would have remained completely harmless and would not have had any public health or note worthy environmental impact - clay does an incredible job at containment of such things even by today's standards. Hooker chemical was NOT at fault. And even if they were, the city agreed any potential problems would be the responsibility of the city. My dad remembers when this hit the news. Everyone at the time knew the city was to blame for the catastrophe. We're supposed to have a common law legal system here in the United States - things like this prove that legislative, statutory, and regulatory laws were illegally usurping common law even 40 years ago.

    • @DisasterLord
      @DisasterLord Před 4 lety +434

      They actually followed protocol and didn't hide information, people love to hate big companies however in this case they are actually innocent.

    • @jimstanley_49
      @jimstanley_49 Před 4 lety +199

      @@DisasterLord and future companies are encouraged to cover up and maintain plausible deniability at all costs. No matter what they do some future Pandora is sure to break into their carefully constructed Box and stick the company with the bill.
      It makes me think of the language experts trying to come up with a timeless message to prevent nuclear waste storage from being breached. If a local government is so careless mere decades later there is no hope for the distant future.

    • @fnjesusfreak
      @fnjesusfreak Před 4 lety +96

      It's a crooked city, mark my word. I've lived out here most of my life.

    • @Tsukuyomi28
      @Tsukuyomi28 Před 4 lety +58

      Yeah the city was definitely more at fault

  • @memesofproduction3
    @memesofproduction3 Před 4 lety +2904

    At least their drinking water was safe inside lead pipes

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable Před 4 lety +98

      Farce and Furious
      Uh. Back then almost all house paint had lead and I bet all the old plumbing and fittings contain lead

    • @markshort9098
      @markshort9098 Před 4 lety +229

      Tests have been done with lead pipe and it's not as bad as you would think, you would have to drink the water for 2000 years before you even got to the maximum safe level but still not the best idea

    • @LookingGlass69
      @LookingGlass69 Před 4 lety +8

      lol

    • @16driver16
      @16driver16 Před 4 lety +182

      Actually the lead pipes are fine as long as the water is treated correctly, its only if you put water with the wrong properties through the lead that will make it leech into the water

    • @Tsukuyomi28
      @Tsukuyomi28 Před 4 lety +113

      Lead pipes are usually fine as long as you dont do a Flint, MI

  • @ferret150
    @ferret150 Před 4 lety +1757

    "Hundreds of Families Sick from Hooker's Love Canal"

    • @FlameDarkfire
      @FlameDarkfire Před 4 lety +98

      ferret150 that’s some toxic love

    • @ColonelClusterFunk
      @ColonelClusterFunk Před 4 lety +78

      'Hooker dump troubles neighbors in lasalle'

    • @bytesabre
      @bytesabre Před 4 lety +24

      Coming up, on Sick Sad World! (jingle plays)

    • @r3nmgod
      @r3nmgod Před 4 lety +81

      If you want into Hooker's Love Canal, you must wear protection.

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt Před 4 lety +5

      @@bytesabre La la la la la (excuse me)
      *camera switches to Jane telling Daria something completely unrelated. *

  • @metalema6
    @metalema6 Před 3 lety +491

    "Yeah I'll buy the toxic waste dump for 1$"
    * 2 hours later *
    "Pssst hey kid, wanna live on this pristine land?"

    • @tashalynn29
      @tashalynn29 Před 3 lety +15

      That's in chapter 1 of a land developer's playbook

    • @marialiyubman
      @marialiyubman Před 3 lety +17

      Psss kid, wanna live in a hooker’s love canal?

    • @missmoxie9188
      @missmoxie9188 Před 3 lety +1

      @@marialiyubman oh shit dude

    • @vonwolfe1310
      @vonwolfe1310 Před 2 lety +1

      Earthbound.

    • @DaedalusYoung
      @DaedalusYoung Před 2 lety +3

      Well it was that or the Indian burial ground.

  • @ichaukan
    @ichaukan Před 4 lety +409

    I really had to marvel at "Various residents complained of strange odors, minor unexplained fires and odd puddles of chemicals."

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage Před 4 lety +78

      If you ask me, any unexplained fire isn't a minor one.

    • @usmale4915
      @usmale4915 Před 4 lety +35

      @@Calvin_Coolage That's what I was thinking, too! And "odd puddles of chemicals" is very alarming, to say the least.

    • @SteelyEyedMissileDan
      @SteelyEyedMissileDan Před 4 lety +38

      usmale 49 technically all puddles are puddles of chemicals.

    • @userequaltoNull
      @userequaltoNull Před 3 lety +19

      @@SteelyEyedMissileDan
      Congratulations!
      You passed 8th grade Biology!

    • @worldcomicsreview354
      @worldcomicsreview354 Před 3 lety +8

      Sounds like something that would be in The Simpsons

  • @Lyrics4y0u
    @Lyrics4y0u Před 4 lety +139

    "Dirty Hooker's Love Canal Oozes Noxious Waste"

    • @DaleDix
      @DaleDix Před 3 lety +4

      I was trying to put it like that, thank you for saving me the trouble lmao

    • @colinstewart1432
      @colinstewart1432 Před 27 dny

      Well, we've all been there....🤣

  • @keithcurtis6671
    @keithcurtis6671 Před 4 lety +417

    IF i recall correctly Hooker thought the whole liability for the Love Canal dump was off their books and no mention of it was brought up when they sold the company to Occidental. The fines imposed by retroactively assigning liability to Oxy Chem almost put them out of business. What happened in Love Canal was horrible for those affected, but the School District, The City of Niagara Falls and the developers were primarily responsible and they all walked away scott free while a company that had absolutely nothing to do with it had to pay hundreds of millions out.

    • @kemanorel3110
      @kemanorel3110 Před 3 lety +60

      Pretty much. Hooker did all they could to prevent bad shit from happening and get liability off of them once it was clear they couldn't avoid the sale, and yet they still had to pay and had liability forced back onto them.

    • @jvccr7533
      @jvccr7533 Před 3 lety +11

      Well, that's how you do it. Fuck up big and get someone else to eat shit. /shrug

    • @deezboyeed6764
      @deezboyeed6764 Před 3 lety +12

      And people why companies try and cover up, either do it all by the book and get fucked, or cover up with chance to get no fuckedy

    • @dx1450
      @dx1450 Před 3 lety +25

      Didn't the chemical company warn them not to build houses there?

    • @sheeplord4976
      @sheeplord4976 Před 2 lety +20

      @@dx1450 yes, they specifically said not to.

  • @joshb7989
    @joshb7989 Před 4 lety +520

    I love it. The government gave approval for these companies to dump in the canal then allows communities to be built on the dump. Decades later, health problems begin. Does the government take any responsibility? Nope, they make the companies retroactively pay for the clean up and allow them to be sued.
    I’m not saying the company isn’t at fault, or the families don’t deserve to be compensated. I just pointing out that this happens all the time. They never take responsibility for hurting their citizens

    • @dacypher22
      @dacypher22 Před 4 lety +54

      Two different governments. The one who really screwed-up here is the city. The ones who cleaned it up is the federal. They are quite nearly unrelated entities.

    • @m2heavyindustries378
      @m2heavyindustries378 Před 3 lety +21

      Got to push that libertarian muh govt baaad ideology hard eh?

    • @stakantube
      @stakantube Před 3 lety +4

      yeah, like private company always takes responsibility....
      this is why communism is much better. government is always responsible, and if gov. do smth bad... what can you expect from the commies hehehe

    • @Wafflepudding
      @Wafflepudding Před 3 lety +3

      That's because in a democracy, ultimate responsibility for a government's actions lies in the citizens since they elected them.

    • @poetcomic1
      @poetcomic1 Před 3 lety +12

      I know of one small time trucker whose company made non chemical hauls to a legal dump that later became a 'superfund site'. 99% of the noxious dumping was done by one major company but his little truck biz was included in the suit. He lost EVERYTHING and was BANKRUPTED.

  • @georgewashington938
    @georgewashington938 Před 4 lety +661

    the city government was coercing the chemical company into selling. the chemical company was refusing to sell and warning the city government that the land contained a chemical dump that was sealed with a clay liner and must remain undisturbed. the chemical dump would probably still be safe and contained if it was not for the development that damaged the seal.
    In this case, the local government was the villain, not the chemical company.

    • @JimmyRussle
      @JimmyRussle Před 4 lety +65

      I think its both their fault. The company should never had dumped it there in the first place. The clay barrier was no way permanent and this site would have been toxic no matter what. The real problem was lack of regulation and oversight of these companies back then. Environmental protection laws are important. Corporations cannot self regulate. They will put profit over safety 100% of the time. The local government is definitely also at fault. I think overall environmental awareness just wasn't there yet, and they didn't fully realize the massive problem they were sitting on. The promise of cheap land drove them to make very poor decisions. In the end, as always, the victims were the innocent public in the middle.

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen Před 4 lety +111

      RM1178 the clay barrier would have been entirely permanent if it wasn’t breached. It’s *still* pretty close to the gold standard for this sort of thing.
      But this is why you put parks on top of toxic waste sites, not schools and houses.

    • @fartingfury
      @fartingfury Před 4 lety +10

      Dear China, this is the kind of bullshit you have stored up for yourself in the last 30 years...

    • @inquirerreader
      @inquirerreader Před 4 lety +53

      @@JimmyRussle Governments poison people all the time. Their monopoly status over their subjects shields them from market forces that bring down irresponsible private companies. Currently, in my backyard, government schools in Philadelphia are still exposing students to asbestos. What private company has been able to expose employees to asbestos at any time in the last three decades without drowning in lawsuits? Its a clear double standard.

    • @mrdumbfellow927
      @mrdumbfellow927 Před 4 lety +61

      @@JimmyRussle they were following US law at the time, not to mention had the clay stayed intact with no building it would have been MUCH better. I would say the government owns this 95%.

  • @Tomartyr
    @Tomartyr Před 4 lety +778

    I think this the first time I've felt bad for a chemical corporation.

    • @Tsukuyomi28
      @Tsukuyomi28 Před 4 lety +86

      They warned the city not to put anything underground there

    • @jasoncarswell7458
      @jasoncarswell7458 Před 4 lety +49

      Part of being a rationally moral human being is the ability to recognize something as unfair, even if it's being inflicted on somebody you don't like or approve of. In Marxism, there's nothing you can do to a corporation that they don't already deserve; by definition, what they deserve is death. The unfairness is baked into the system based on the little box you've been assigned, same as the Nazis did with race. I don't feel bad for the company itself: what I DO feel bad about is that there was no possible outcome for Hooker other than being demonized to please the political climate in 1970s America.

    • @gunnark9823
      @gunnark9823 Před 3 lety +1

      I had read that many people get ill from using their (toxic) products like lip sticks at that time, too

    • @gaymer42069
      @gaymer42069 Před 3 lety +5

      If that is your takeaway from this I am truely disgusted. That corporation cut every possible public safety measure to try and stay in business and petal a product noone was buying. They killed hundreds of thousands with their negligence and greed.
      Union carbide and corporations that operate similar to them deserve to be put down like rabid dogs.

    • @mrs2691
      @mrs2691 Před 3 lety +85

      Hooker Chemical didn't cut any corners. They went above and beyond what the law even expects today. They used disposal methods that are still considered valid. It was the city's forced sale of the land, as well as improper development of the land that led to this.

  • @stevphiericardo2790
    @stevphiericardo2790 Před 4 lety +302

    "Hooker dump troubles neighbors".. For non-english-speaker , took me 3 minutes to figure it out what it actually means

    • @neuralmute
      @neuralmute Před 4 lety +32

      It really does sound hilariously awful! XD

    • @deadfreightwest5956
      @deadfreightwest5956 Před 4 lety +27

      Here's one for you, a common legal phrase in the US: "Void where prohibited."

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 Před 4 lety +20

      Yeah, in most countries you need to responsibly dispose of your used hookers. It's a shame, but in some parts of the US they dont even compost the hooker after they've strangled her, they just dump them near rivers or in the woods where they poison water supplies.

    • @jasoncarswell7458
      @jasoncarswell7458 Před 4 lety +7

      Hooker dump? Tell her to wait until she's home to do that, that gross.

    • @sid2112
      @sid2112 Před 4 lety +1

      @Mialisus if voiding a contract is prohibited, which is pretty much everywhere, which is why that quote is funny.

  • @madmat2001
    @madmat2001 Před 4 lety +225

    The possible headline for this story can be totally accurate and not what you may think at the same time. "Hooker's Love Canal screws over community"

    • @TheDeadfast
      @TheDeadfast Před 4 lety +18

      "Hooker's Love Canal spreads disease to community"

    • @stephenn1056
      @stephenn1056 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheDeadfast damn, that was a good one

    • @tinkhamm7251
      @tinkhamm7251 Před 2 lety

      Sounds like a VD outbreak 😂

    • @WhatIsThatThingDoing
      @WhatIsThatThingDoing Před rokem

      That sounds pretty...
      Fucked up.
      ba dum tsh.

    • @1978garfield
      @1978garfield Před 3 měsíci

      This reminds me of the headlines over Deiselgate.
      Volkswagen, AG is sometimes abbreviated as VAG.
      "VAG emissions scandal creates big stink, cost millions."

  • @radomane
    @radomane Před 4 lety +179

    Sounds like one of the few examples where a chemical company acted more responsibly than most others at the time, and then the local government fuckes it up anyway.

    • @gastonbell108
      @gastonbell108 Před 4 lety +40

      In fairness, Hooker wasn't acting "responsibly" in the general moral sense, but the legal sense. They knew 100% that building anything on top of the canal was a shockingly terrible idea, one that would expose the public to danger and themselves to massive lawsuits. They were legally responsible for the Love Canal, and intended to remain so by refusing to ever sell the land. This was vastly cheaper than cleaning it up themselves, and legally just as good. But the school district was so dysfunctional/corrupt/Marxist that they assumed the company was merely stalling for more money as a negotiating tactic. So they basically told them "We think you're lying about the waste dump, we think you just want more money. You'll either sell it for below market value or we'll get the city to seize it using eminent domain, and you'll get $0, you corporate jerks!". Hooker was really in a pinch at this point, because the city was bound and determined to take the canal and build on it, so their only option left was to sell for $1 with the provision that they get to add a really nasty warning in the sale documents, stating with full and total honesty that the site was a clay-capped toxic waste dump and if you built anything on top of it, it would crack the clay cap and the waste would get out. The city said "Yeah yeah, whatever, corporate cretins lose again." The results are just as you see. Everybody was mad at Hooker, nobody was mad at Niagara Falls and a bunch of impoverished kids got exposed to chemicals. Welcome to the Carter administration.

    • @MrKeserian
      @MrKeserian Před 4 lety +18

      @@gastonbell108honestly, I really think love canal was when corporate America just said, "f--- it, we're the bad guys even if we try to do the right thing, we might as well reap some benefit from it" and stopped caring about civic responsibility.

    • @NoFlu
      @NoFlu Před 4 lety +7

      @@MrKeserian if you consider 1$ as reaping the benefits. Sure

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 Před 4 lety +22

      @@NoFlu That was his point. Hooker tried to ensure that they (and everyone else later) were covered by issuing a big, crystal clear warning of what was hidden under the cap , and then gave up the fight by selling for a buck. Afterwards, they got the royal screw anyways because the city government lied by omission.
      So you're screwed harder by trying to do right in this instance, which MrKeserian points out could be the moment other corporations realized "Government is in it only for itself, maybe we should imitate".

    • @newperve
      @newperve Před 4 lety +3

      @@gastonbell108 No they were acting responsibly in every sense. They created the toxic waste so they had to keep it from contacting people or wildlife. They did this.

  • @Catquick1957
    @Catquick1957 Před 4 lety +96

    In 1972 my cousin was replacing a sump pump in Love canal home when he braced himself to pull out the normally very heavy tank, he flew backward and just had the top of it. The rest was gone. Rotted away. Never saw that before or since. That was in someone's basement.

  • @QueenCheetah
    @QueenCheetah Před 4 lety +126

    This whole thing reads lout ike a legal aide's nightmare-
    Town: "Hey, we're running out of space here- do you think we could buy some from you?"
    Hooker: "Well, we own a junkyard that we use for storing scrap, but there's some aggressive, semi-feral guard dogs living there that we haven't been able to catch and remove. You can store your stuff there, but don't send any unprotected people in, ok?"
    Town: "Nah, we're gonna build a school there."
    Hooker: "Um, don't do that. In fact, our contract forbids that-"
    Town: "Lalalala, we can't hear you!"
    Hooker: "..."
    ~Later~
    Government Officials: "Your dogs mauled a bunch of people- prepare to pay!"
    Hooker: "...wtf."

    • @EarlFaulk
      @EarlFaulk Před 4 lety +20

      What really sucks is that by the time it wound its way through the courts the people who had originally sold the city the land were either dead or long since retired. So the new owners of a different company had to shell out for someone else's screw ups.

    • @deezboyeed6764
      @deezboyeed6764 Před 3 lety +12

      And people wonder why companies cover up everything now.

    • @tsm688
      @tsm688 Před 2 lety +2

      Plot twist: Hooker bred and trained those dogs and intentionally ditched them there instead of safer disposal when they decided it was the cheapest way to deal with them. Hardly 100% innocent.

    • @noradlark167
      @noradlark167 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@tsm688They performed state of art procedure.

  • @jerit7529
    @jerit7529 Před 4 lety +207

    I'm from this area. Born in the mid 80s, my parents born in the early 60s. The amount of people with autoimmune and endocrine diseases, cancer at a young age, and other genetic anomalies is insanely high, including several members of my own family (myself included).

    • @Catquick1957
      @Catquick1957 Před 4 lety +12

      So sorry. GOD bless!

    • @FSMonster
      @FSMonster Před 3 lety +11

      Sorry to hear that. So... no superpowers?

    • @chrislair6832
      @chrislair6832 Před 3 lety +6

      Has there been any compensation from the government at all?

    • @jerit7529
      @jerit7529 Před 3 lety +5

      @@chrislair6832 Not that I'm aware of. Possibly in the 70s when it was first exposed. The area I'm from is very poor so I doubt it.

    • @chrislair6832
      @chrislair6832 Před 3 lety +7

      @@jerit7529 That really freakin pisses me off I know it was an easy Google but I wanted to hear from somebody who's been there. I am sorry you had to deal with that period I've always grown up thinking I lived in the best country in the world these last 2 years have made me think a little differently

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc Před 4 lety +331

    It's not often you find a company trying to be responsible.
    Local Government: "We wants the lands, we wants the precious. We's going to take the lands from yous""
    Hooker: "Look you can have it. For free but you must never ever build anything on it. It's too dangerous"
    Local Government: "We wants to builds schools on de precious Full of lovely precious chemicals for the childrens. We're goings to takes its if you don't sells the precious to us"

    • @PatricioGarcia1973
      @PatricioGarcia1973 Před 3 lety +5

      Should have just let them use eminent domain, that way is the government problem.

    • @IstasPumaNevada
      @IstasPumaNevada Před 3 lety +3

      They weren't being responsible, they were covering their asses while trying to offload a serious problem so they didn't have to deal with it anymore.

    • @DynamicSeq
      @DynamicSeq Před 3 lety +9

      @@IstasPumaNevada It was legal to bury, when they did it...

    • @somethingelse4424
      @somethingelse4424 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DynamicSeq Yeah, but irresponsible. And just because it wasn't prohibited doesn't mean they were immune from civil liability. Owning that dump was a huge liability that they were undoubtedly thrilled to be rid of.

    • @josh256m8
      @josh256m8 Před 2 lety +3

      @@somethingelse4424 what else could they do? That was what they meant to do. In the middle of no-where. It wasn’t irresponsible. It Just happened that people started living near it and the government forced them to sell ut

  • @abarrett08
    @abarrett08 Před 4 lety +32

    My parents and brother lived in their house that was part of the "inner ring" area that was immediately condemned. My mother died of cancer in her 50's, father of pulmonary fibrosis in his 70's. I have no doubt the cancer was related to this, as it was both highly aggressive and, I quote from the doctor, "strangely mutated". Also a miscarried child. The whole situation was f*cked.

    • @agentmueller
      @agentmueller Před 5 měsíci +2

      I’m sorry for your loss no matter how long it’s been. It always hurts.

  • @daviddavis4885
    @daviddavis4885 Před 4 lety +226

    “The Love Canal” sounds very NSFW without context

  • @balalaika9114
    @balalaika9114 Před 4 lety +260

    This was a wild ride from start to finish and a truly fascinating topic. Thank you for covering it, please keep up the good work!

  • @FlameDarkfire
    @FlameDarkfire Před 4 lety +199

    12 year olds: *clicks video ready to giggle*
    12 year olds after video: bruh

  • @nathanfrazier8525
    @nathanfrazier8525 Před 4 lety +121

    That cover photo is something out of nightmares

    • @Solesz
      @Solesz Před 4 lety +17

      Its like a dude in a hazmat suit who is dying

    • @Hawkinsian
      @Hawkinsian Před 4 lety

      dude, im at 5:16 an already horrified!, can you imagine spending all of your money to acquire a house and then for all of it to have this stuff?!?!, complete madness!

    • @gui18bif
      @gui18bif Před 4 lety +1

      @@Solesz he is on a hole

    • @Mario998plays
      @Mario998plays Před 3 lety +2

      AMONG US

  • @Renard380
    @Renard380 Před 4 lety +40

    I used to live in Brussels, Belgium and grew up in an appartment building built on a dump site. Everybody knew, so i find it incredible that people bought appartments there.. One day i remember an excavator working right in front of where i lived, doing some maintenance work on the sewers or something. It would dig up car tires and all kinds of stuff. At some point gas escaped from a small pocket, producing white vapor. I was a kid but thought it was crazy, yet everyone seemed to find it sad but normal. At what point does the average human finally think "dude this is f*cked up"? Clearly those who decided to build housing on a dump site didn't think that way.

  • @mikeforsyth6389
    @mikeforsyth6389 Před 4 lety +9

    I visited Love Canal in person a few years ago.., its a eerie sight to say the least. As mentioned in the video, there are still homes and families living there, about 2-3 blocks removed from the main canal site. When I drove by I saw a man outside mowing his lawn casually, his property could not have been more than 1000ft. from the "dead zone" where the school once was. Upstate NY is a poor, often forgotten part of our country.

    • @gastonbell108
      @gastonbell108 Před 4 lety +2

      Niagara Falls is western NY, specifically the Buffalo Metro area. Buffalo Metro is extremely poor, has severe problems with gang crime, and was at one point in the 90s the murder capital of the US (beating out Detroit). "Upstate NY" has nothing to do with Buffalo.

    • @mikeforsyth6389
      @mikeforsyth6389 Před 4 lety +1

      @Johan Faul Listen buddy, when you’re from Jersey everything past NYC is Upstate New York, alright? Sure Buffalo is in the western part of the state, but the same poverty persists throughout. Buzz off

  • @astronomydemon6312
    @astronomydemon6312 Před 3 lety +10

    Every time I see the two Hazmat guys and ones stepping on his foot it gives me immeasurable happiness

  • @lisaann915
    @lisaann915 Před 4 lety +49

    As kids, we used to play in the big ditch in the field covering the dump. We also played a game called "touch the witch" where we'd push sticks in the cracks of the basement walls to watch the green goo ooze out. Good times.

  • @rolfen
    @rolfen Před 3 lety +18

    Trouble started when it was decided to turn a nice water canal into a dumpster.

  • @miket8830
    @miket8830 Před 4 lety +37

    This was really unfair to the company. The government is true villain here.

    • @lsswappedcessna
      @lsswappedcessna Před 3 lety +6

      So, another day, another legislative fuckup.

    • @TheDude1764
      @TheDude1764 Před 3 lety +4

      Government is ALWAYS the villain.

    • @frevazz3364
      @frevazz3364 Před 2 lety +1

      The company did dump numerous toxic chemicals but ok....

    • @ermimprettysigmaphonk
      @ermimprettysigmaphonk Před 2 lety +3

      @@frevazz3364 the company did warn them about it…

  • @myaeve2605
    @myaeve2605 Před 2 lety +9

    I live around the area and one of the craziest things is that so many places once again ignore the warnings of all the chemicals. There is a retirement home near the blocked off area of love canal, a few parks and a city pool, a road that drives right through it, one of the most contained areas right next to the Niagara River where you cannot convince me that runoff does not get into the water. It’s a mess still and people pretend it didn’t happen.

  • @joemackey8859
    @joemackey8859 Před 4 lety +51

    You should do a video on the Clyde Ohio cancer cluster. It's a rather recent event and goes along with your general vein of videos. The absolute saddest part of it all all of the victims were younger than 10.

    • @kdrapertrucker
      @kdrapertrucker Před 3 lety +3

      clyde, Ohio? When I used to run through there in the semi I always had to squelch my C.B. radio all the way down do to massive electrical interference, I wonder if that might have something to do with the cancer?

    • @joemackey8859
      @joemackey8859 Před 3 lety +5

      @@kdrapertrucker the whirlpool company owned a piece of property and dumped all kinds of nastiness on it. When they were done they donated the land to the city and it became the city park.

    • @SeedlingNL
      @SeedlingNL Před 3 lety +4

      @@kdrapertrucker No, that electrical interference was likely caused by a radio tower. The cancer cluster was caused by PCBs in the ground.

  • @messiahsbythesackful6267
    @messiahsbythesackful6267 Před 2 lety +13

    I grew up in a news-family and learned to read on my grandfather's knee at the kitchen table. Even though I was a kid, I understood what the papers were reporting. When this story hit the evening news in the mid-70s, though, I learned irony trying to piece together how something so awful was called the 'love' canal.

  • @wormwinna7883
    @wormwinna7883 Před 3 lety +4

    I actually live 20 minutes away from this place, it's a bit of a local legend

  • @kyleshiflet9952
    @kyleshiflet9952 Před 4 lety +45

    Blame the guys who warned the city that the land was bad and not to build on the land

  • @aslamnurfikri7640
    @aslamnurfikri7640 Před 4 lety +52

    I want to see video on Minamata disease where people get mercury poisoning caused by release of mercury sulfate from a factory to sea and people consumed fish from there

  • @lutello3012
    @lutello3012 Před 4 lety +12

    Love Canal and Jonestown, what a fun time to be in the womb! Took me almost this long to finally learn about them.

  • @jennc4242
    @jennc4242 Před 2 lety +5

    My grandmother's niece lived there - I was young when she died of cancer but both her kids had vision loss and developmental issues. I remember the adults talking about what she was like (healthy/happy) before she lived there

  • @PieAndChips
    @PieAndChips Před 4 lety +16

    I would love for someone to cover The Whiddy Disaster.
    It remains Ireland's largest marine tragedy, and I believe that it deserves to be mentioned.

  • @ItsJustLisa
    @ItsJustLisa Před 2 lety +5

    I remember this blowing up in the news and being on the cover of Newsweek. My parents had a subscription for years. We even ended up talking about it in my biology class because it was a scientific current event.

  • @MiracleFound
    @MiracleFound Před 2 lety +2

    I went to kindergarten at the 99nd street school in 1964. I walked to school every day, right through all of that. I guess I should be happy that we only lived there for 2 years.

  • @blacksabbbath87
    @blacksabbbath87 Před 4 lety +145

    so your saying I should stop dumping used motor oil in a hole in the ground?

    • @PlainlyDifficult
      @PlainlyDifficult  Před 4 lety +88

      You change your motor oil? I just wait for the engine to run it all up and the motor seizes.

    • @texasdeeslinglead2401
      @texasdeeslinglead2401 Před 4 lety +9

      Only if your motor oil has dioxin in it .

    • @donnaolsen3964
      @donnaolsen3964 Před 4 lety +2

      That hardly ever happens

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 Před 4 lety +15

      What some do with old motor oil is often daft'er.
      I used to work in groundskeeping, and once found a "bites" bucket - the kind one sees in places like Marks & Spencer - on the kerb in one of the parking bays, but full of used motor oil. An empty container of Wilko motor oil was lying in a nearby bush.
      Somebody had apparently pigged out at one shop, decided that they Re~ally needed to change their oil completely, and did so in a OTSC car park... deciding at some point to use their recent indulgence's empty bucket, and just leave it where it could spill & cause a significant hazard.
      I hated that groundskeeping job... mainly because it tested my faith in humanity.
      Even weirder examples of flytipping than that transpired... but I think that's illustration enough XD.

    • @texasdeeslinglead2401
      @texasdeeslinglead2401 Před 4 lety +2

      @@jimtaylor294 what is fly tipping

  • @klatuk4u1
    @klatuk4u1 Před 4 lety +33

    Cool vid! Another topic you may enjoy covering and I would love to see would be Centralia Pennsylvania, underground mine fire burning since 1960s, inspired silent hill actually.

  • @CWOJim
    @CWOJim Před 4 lety +21

    I've been looking forward to this episode.

  • @johndoyle4723
    @johndoyle4723 Před 4 lety +3

    Thanks, I worked in the UK waste management industry from the mid 1970s, and the Love canal problems also prompted changes in the UK, as well as COPA, the control of pollution act, which was early 1970s when dumped drums of chemical waste, including cyanide were involved in serious incidents.
    We were very lax in those days, thankfully much better now, hope we have no more "Love canals".

  • @america-san
    @america-san Před 4 lety +11

    My school library when I was a kid had 3 books from the same company, one was over Chernobyl, one was that 1980s chemical incident in India, and the last one was about love canal. This is almost an audio book.

    • @haruhisuzumiya6650
      @haruhisuzumiya6650 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Chernobyl nuclear disaster
      Bhopal union Carbide Methyl Isocyanate leak
      Love canal superfund disaster

    • @america-san
      @america-san Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@haruhisuzumiya6650 yes!! Those are the ones!

  • @mtmadigan82
    @mtmadigan82 Před 4 lety +30

    Weird smells and unexplained fires. I don't care how much I have sunk in a joint. I'm sick an shits just starting on fire I'm out. I'll fight this from a new home far away.

    • @tsm688
      @tsm688 Před 2 lety

      ...if you have the money to leave.

  • @sanguiniusonvacation1803
    @sanguiniusonvacation1803 Před 4 lety +5

    Speaking of Dioxin , check out the Times Beach disaster . It was so bad that the whole town was written off as a loss and was destroyed .

  • @deadfreightwest5956
    @deadfreightwest5956 Před 4 lety +10

    Thank you for this. I was just entering Junior High School when this story broke. Even then, as a youngster, I knew about the dangers of pollution, such as the phosphates used in laundry detergent. Still, this was beyond appalling. Hooker had a chemical plant in my home town. I remember seeing trains of orange and black tank cars. Love Canal and Hooker. What a combo!

    • @Tsukuyomi28
      @Tsukuyomi28 Před 4 lety

      It's the city that built there and poisoned everybody

  • @lukehudek6153
    @lukehudek6153 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Family told me to look this particular disaster up before I go back to school for Envir. Science. I knew you would have it covered my man!

  • @Uncultured_Barbarian465
    @Uncultured_Barbarian465 Před 3 lety +23

    I remember when this happened, and they taught us in Grade School that it was the fault of the company. I found out years later that it was the fault of government.

  • @darrenmuse
    @darrenmuse Před 4 lety +40

    I feel like I knew what Love Canal was before seeing the video, but got it confused with other disasters. It's really hard to keep up with all of the environmental disasters! There' so many! Luckily it's not so easy to sweep everything under the rug these days....mind you, I said "not SO easy," as these events continue to happen.

    • @usmale4915
      @usmale4915 Před 4 lety

      I agree, I was thinking Love Canal had something to do with Three Mile Island. Don't ask me why as I have no idea why I would even think that.

  • @unfortunately_fortunate2000

    not entirely sure how it is that I ended up stumbling across your channel, but goddamn am I glad I did!
    this is a situation I'd heard a little bit about in rather short, far less detailed videos but *all* of the disasters you cover in your videos are incredibly detailed & I thank you for the both highly informative and entertaining content.
    you sir, are a gem amongst all the toxic waste contaminated dirt that is 99% of the bullshit youtube's algorithm forces people to create in order to be successful on this platform. keep doing you, and stay awesome, man!!
    appreciate yah bud, sending all the love and respect from Canada.
    stay safe & healthy out there my dude.

  • @KarlBunker
    @KarlBunker Před 4 lety +11

    I remember reading that kids in the area would find clods of dirt in their yards that would burst in a shower of sparks when they were thrown against a wall.

  • @masterchririus
    @masterchririus Před 4 lety +29

    "trust the government"... YEAH, RIGHT!!!

    • @cryamistellimek9184
      @cryamistellimek9184 Před 3 lety +3

      The most terrifying phrase in the world is “we are the government and we are here to help.”

  • @edwardarruda7215
    @edwardarruda7215 Před 3 lety +8

    My cousins lived there. I remember smelling chemicals in the summer.

  • @usmale4915
    @usmale4915 Před 4 lety +1

    I must say that your videos are very well constructed. Not only are they educational but entertaining too! Thank you for your uploads!

  • @NastyWoman1979
    @NastyWoman1979 Před 4 lety +1

    This is CRAZY because I just began researching this for myself YESTERDAY and you release this TODAY!!
    Thabks for a great. Video!!!

  • @AquaticPro-xu5lx
    @AquaticPro-xu5lx Před 4 lety +18

    Love the content. Keep em coming

  • @madrx2
    @madrx2 Před 4 lety +40

    For anyone after an interesting listen, check out the “swindled”love canal podcast. Bloody awesome, he covers heaps of other awesome subjects too.

    • @Buffaloguy1991
      @Buffaloguy1991 Před 4 lety +2

      Will confirm

    • @PlainlyDifficult
      @PlainlyDifficult  Před 4 lety +6

      Thanks for the suggestion ill check it out!

    • @maxtrax5660
      @maxtrax5660 Před 4 lety +2

      Here's a short documentary from the late 70's that starts off with Love Canal, The Killing Ground:
      czcams.com/video/F4udLhOdPro/video.html

    • @madrx2
      @madrx2 Před 4 lety

      @@PlainlyDifficult thanks for your amazing content too! Been subscribed for a long time.

  • @douglasbadger9049
    @douglasbadger9049 Před 4 lety

    These are always excellent. Concise, well-researched, clear and a great chance to learn something.

  • @liliththeviolet
    @liliththeviolet Před 4 lety +5

    I live about a few miles out from Love Canal. I never go anywhere near there.

  • @armvex
    @armvex Před 4 lety +16

    I wish some day in the future you'll cover the Wohan Lab Incident.

    • @PlainlyDifficult
      @PlainlyDifficult  Před 4 lety +6

      Will need to let the story gain a vintage first ! Thanks for the comment!

    • @jerminnigor4095
      @jerminnigor4095 Před 4 lety +1

      @Ron B No one said that.

    • @armvex
      @armvex Před 4 lety

      @Ron B As of this writing many people in the world dont know if it is intentional or not. I am leaning to my theory that some lab guy or costodian guy that instead properly disposing a specimen, he sell the bat in a nearby exotic animal market.

  • @filipmakesthings
    @filipmakesthings Před 4 lety +6

    I love your videos! I think they are very informative. For the last couple of year I really got into learning about radioactivity and now I got a nice collection of uranium glass as well as other radioactive things ☢! Can't wait for the next episode!

  • @JohnXOsterman
    @JohnXOsterman Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing work, again. I’m addicted to these avoidable catastrophes.

  • @mr.oddlyfox6934
    @mr.oddlyfox6934 Před 4 lety

    Learned about this particular spot in one of my geology classes in college, thanks for taking a dive into it!

  • @MalleusSemperVictor
    @MalleusSemperVictor Před 4 lety +6

    It's always easy to say that these things happen or happened in less developed nations with more relaxed laws. However, there are 1344 CERCLA sites in the US ranging from more common issues featured in this video to radioactive contamination and stockpiled VX gas and blistering agents. The only difference is that we're allowed the responsibility of demanding action from our government.

  • @rynnziolkowski4642
    @rynnziolkowski4642 Před 3 lety +6

    As someone who lives in WNY I've gone near the love canal area several times when I was young and it was pretty damn creepy seeing entire streets of houses falling apart and everything abandoned

  • @ProfSimonHolland
    @ProfSimonHolland Před 4 lety +4

    These are great films...congratulations Prof Simon...ex BBC science

  • @notstanley9204
    @notstanley9204 Před 2 lety

    I recently came across your channel and have been bingeing your videos the past few days. The Love Canal is very close to where I live, this is very interesting. Thank you for making this video.

  • @noobiesmurf
    @noobiesmurf Před 4 lety +10

    Do a video on Centralia the town with a coal fire under it for 40 years.

  • @madcourier6217
    @madcourier6217 Před 4 lety +11

    If your doing the Love Canal, then I'd also like to toss in a recommendation for the community of Times Beach, Missouri.

    • @chandler224
      @chandler224 Před 4 lety +1

      Times Beach would make for a good video. I live near there and it is insane how much dioxin was sprayed on those gravel roads for years. It's a nice State Park now.

    • @havoc4171
      @havoc4171 Před 3 lety

      I was very much under the impression the Times Beach was the real first superfund site. Love canal may started the idea but Times Beach earned the title.

  • @LakeNipissing
    @LakeNipissing Před 3 lety +1

    Six families never left, to the east of the canal on 101st and 102nd. Their houses stand alone, and they still live there today. I still go skateboarding on the abandoned streets adjacent to the canal, but 100th is getting pretty overgrown now. There are still remnants of sidewalks, hydrants, driveways, foundations, and even former resident's garden perennials!
    A co-worker went to school at 93rd Street elementary and described the gravel for the baseball diamond was bubbling and frothing with chemicals in the 1970s. They used to dare each other to go into the basement of a friend's house on 99th where the concrete block walls were bleeding terrible smelling iridescent liquids, and they were pooling on the floor. Life in the 70s!!!

  • @anewspinonthings
    @anewspinonthings Před 4 lety +1

    DUUDE this channel is fricken lit. Quite well researched and entertaining

  • @scwaty180
    @scwaty180 Před 4 lety +19

    The more of these videos I watch it amazes me that the human race even exists. All of the chemical, environmental, and nuclear accidents that have occurred in the last 80 years. It's no wonder there's more cancers and unexplainable health issues in the population now

    • @jimstanley_49
      @jimstanley_49 Před 4 lety +7

      Insert Arrested Development meme: "Do not open! Toxic Waste!" [DIgs into containment lining.] "Well, I don't know what I expected."

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C Před 4 lety +3

      Most of the cancer is from it being correctly diagnosed more often, and people live longer which means they are more likely to get cancer at some point during their longer lives. 70 years ago people "up and died".

    • @benni5541
      @benni5541 Před 3 lety +3

      To be fair these companies dont just produce waste. That would be a terrible buisness model but produce modern technology that might be part of the bigger machine that extends your life to 80+. Maybe the plastic factory produxes stents for hearth surgery or just plain one time use overalls for doctors. Point is, with progess comes cost.

  • @robb617iejb56
    @robb617iejb56 Před 4 lety +3

    I was looking forward to this

  • @alexanderherbertkurz
    @alexanderherbertkurz Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks putting this together.

  • @lunchboxproductions1183

    Great content as always! Another good topic along these lines is the Valley of the Drums in Kentucky. The pictures I've seen are incomprehensible.

  • @jeffhartman7000
    @jeffhartman7000 Před 3 lety +3

    Love Canal is only part of a much larger environmental problem in the area. Hooker was only one of the companies doing illegal dumping in the area, especially during World War 2. Carborundum and Union Carbide were contractors for the Manhattan Project, doing early stage processing on Uranium ore to make it ready for enrichment at Oak Ridge. The processing produced enormous amounts of highly corrosive and slightly radioactive waste that was first dumped into city sewers, then into abandoned wells when the city told them to stop using the sewers, and occasionally into a stream that ran through a park when the wells plugged up. Tailings and other solid waste ended up buried in nearby land at first, then in the Lake Ontario Ordnance Works site, a TNT plant (!) built at the start of the war, and still contaminated from that use. That site, just outside Lewiston, is a dump site today, with a variety of radioactive and biological waste - including Dan Rather’s anthrax-contaminated desk. Love Canal is only the tip of the iceberg.

    • @dougtheviking6503
      @dougtheviking6503 Před 2 lety

      Yep you are right ! Any industrial town at the turn of century. All dumped in rivers ,ravines or right in the town dump

  • @juanamigo
    @juanamigo Před 4 lety +11

    “This place is dodge Bruv”

  • @jonathandevries2828
    @jonathandevries2828 Před 4 lety +2

    Nice new plainly!! thanks bro!

  • @TheJoeSwanon
    @TheJoeSwanon Před 3 lety +1

    I remember learning about this early in middle school and was so fascinated by it

  • @km5405
    @km5405 Před 4 lety +14

    ''just drain the chemicals via the sewer'' ... uhmm

  • @bemusedpenguin3410
    @bemusedpenguin3410 Před 4 lety +9

    Woooo, saved from boredom for 11mins

  • @BlueSky-ub4fx
    @BlueSky-ub4fx Před 2 lety

    WOW! I really love this video! Very well done! 👍👍

  • @omeancollins
    @omeancollins Před 2 lety +1

    This was an amazing video. I remembered my wife telling me about Love Canal when we lived in Tonawanda, NY. The amount of damage was beyond what I could had comprehend (at the time).
    Because of this, I dove into the Chernobyl Rabbit hole , because I was extremely interested into the radioactive effects into nuclear power plants and the isotope handling itself.
    Seeing damage the 😈 Core can do first hand (I learned about this from you), it really made me appreciate the risks in those kinds jobs that deal with ☣, power plants, space, or medicine.

  • @cn.st.182
    @cn.st.182 Před 4 lety +3

    Im three and a half minutes in and HOW did nobody up to this point EVER think "hold up maybe this is a bad idea..."??

  • @treepotato9273
    @treepotato9273 Před 4 lety +4

    This was a much more difficult wank than the title implied but I got there in the end.

  • @TPA22222
    @TPA22222 Před 4 lety +1

    Another great short documentary. 👍

  • @jonjoem-walton7381
    @jonjoem-walton7381 Před 4 lety +2

    Absolutely fantastic video, of a not too often covered subject 👍🍻
    Again very well sourced as well, a refreshing change from some other CZcamsrs

  • @Spaman42
    @Spaman42 Před 4 lety +7

    Love it when they’re in my back yard....

  • @darkapothecary6299
    @darkapothecary6299 Před 4 lety +3

    The phrase "the toxic waste dump in the love canal" sounds like a euphemism for something disgusting.

  • @origamikamiful
    @origamikamiful Před 2 lety

    Amazing, I live in New York state and have never heard of this! Crazy how quickly these things fade into obscurity.

  • @Mistah_Phrog
    @Mistah_Phrog Před 2 lety +2

    I live about 30 minutes ish outside of Love Canal and I can tell you first hand that the surrounding areas never bounced back. The Niagara Falls area really only has it's tourist area and the casino, venture past that area at your own risk.

  • @shattersucks6270
    @shattersucks6270 Před 3 lety +4

    Could you do a video on the Picher Oklahoma ghost town? Aka the failed Tar Creek Superfund. Deemed too deadly to clean up.

    • @Porty1119
      @Porty1119 Před 2 lety +1

      The amount of mine waste in Tar Creek is truly unbelievable.

  • @Solesz
    @Solesz Před 4 lety +29

    I'd like to see deepwater horizon

    • @spud3149
      @spud3149 Před 4 lety +2

      Geographics did an excellent documentary on it mate.

    • @bikutoso
      @bikutoso Před 4 lety +2

      ​@@spud3149 The channel uscsb also made a great video regarding the incident.

    • @Solesz
      @Solesz Před 4 lety

      @@spud3149 thx mate

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 Před 4 lety

      Exploding Fertilizer sounds more interesting as a topic, and less done to death.

  • @NathanielDoherty
    @NathanielDoherty Před 3 lety

    Thanks again. Excellent video.

  • @somyongai8194
    @somyongai8194 Před 3 lety +1

    I live about 20 minutes away from the site and drive through it occasionally. Didnt even know it was there.

  • @ProjectFlashlight612
    @ProjectFlashlight612 Před 4 lety +4

    Toxic clips are your forte, and that is not an insult.

  • @weakamna
    @weakamna Před 3 lety +3

    "Hey, the ground where we wanted to build the school has a bunch of exposed chemicals that might make the foundation break"
    "Oh, shit, you're right, lets move the school a couple streets over"

  • @Mr.Plight
    @Mr.Plight Před 4 lety

    Thanks for another amazing video. I though I knew about this but you covered more than I did

  • @GeoSeanKeffer
    @GeoSeanKeffer Před rokem +1

    Thank you for the great content! I'd like to see a video on "The Valley of the Drums" in Kentucky. Since it was one of the first Superfund sites.